Current Events > Christian theocracy in action. (Arizona's "RESPECT" Act)

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CountCorvinus
02/09/24 12:47:34 AM
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https://twitter.com/satanic_temple_/status/1755305207813280198

35 minutes of the Arizona Government Committee singling out one religion and prohibiting public displays because they find it offensive to christianity. The chairman, Jake Hoffman was one of Trump's fake electors that tried to overturn the election.

The way they talk down to the citizens in opposition to their rights being taken away is sickening.

Juan Mendez (D), the only person to vote against this stupid fucking bill said: This proposal isnt even a dog whistle, it is a straight up attack on religion

A similar bill is being introduced in Iowa.

https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislation/BillBook?ga=90&ba=SF2210


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BearlyWilling
02/09/24 12:49:39 AM
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Theyll get sued into oblivion. Hope its worth it, MAGA Christian chuds.

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Ricemills
02/09/24 12:50:44 AM
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And they won't stop with one.

America is beyond help, no good guys anymore. Only bad guys and victims.

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mercurydude
02/09/24 12:50:46 AM
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The Satanists are far more Christ-like than these people are.

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FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:52:22 AM
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Satanism exists as a troll religion. But, yeah, this is absolute bullshit.

And don't put me on their side, but this is the kind of bullshit that inspires people to troll in the name of Satan.
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electricbugs2
02/09/24 12:53:06 AM
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Pointless.

Hobbs is going to veto this and send it back to them with a loogie in it. What a complete waste of time.

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FortuneCookie
02/09/24 12:54:47 AM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Pointless.

Hobbs is going to veto this and send it back to them with a loogie in it. What a complete waste of time.

Now that I think about it, that's probably their only real intention. They'll get shot down, but it'll appeal to religious conservatives because they're were the ones fighting the good fight. It's the damned liberals who want to protect Satan and his wicked followers.
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mybbqrules
02/09/24 1:16:15 AM
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But freedom of religion though, right chuds?

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Guide
02/09/24 1:18:46 AM
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There needs to be a law making it a crime to try to send bills that are in obvious violation of the Constitution. At least the First Amendment.

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hockeybabe89
02/09/24 1:28:50 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Satanism exists as a troll religion. But, yeah, this is absolute bullshit.

And don't put me on their side, but this is the kind of bullshit that inspires people to troll in the name of Satan.
You sound a little triggered

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Guide
02/09/24 1:29:34 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
You sound a little triggered

*cough*

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CountCorvinus
02/09/24 1:34:32 AM
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Guide posted...
There needs to be a law making it a crime to try to send bills that are in obvious violation of the Constitution. At least the First Amendment.

They should definitely be sanctioned. The Iowa bill is especially heinous. If I lived in Iowa, and this bill passed I could theoretically be arrested for wearing what I'm right now (Twin Temple leggings) if I were to enter a public space.

Displays, symbols, or the practice of Satanic worship shall not be allowed on public property, in public schools, on property owned by public schools, or on any property owned by the state or its political subdivisions


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PMarth2002
02/09/24 1:37:43 AM
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Guide posted...
There needs to be a law making it a crime to try to send bills that are in obvious violation of the Constitution. At least the First Amendment.

I'm sure congress will get right on that.

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CountCorvinus
02/09/24 2:08:56 AM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Pointless.

Hobbs is going to veto this and send it back to them with a loogie in it. What a complete waste of time.

I'm a bit more concerned about what might go down in Iowa, with a far-right governor that is more sympathetic to christian nationalists, like Kim Reynolds and has already signed bad bills into law.

It's so blatantly a violation of the constitution though that I don't think it will pass, but you never know.

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Atralis
02/09/24 2:14:18 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
You sound a little triggered

Do you disagree? I thought that Satanists were quite open about it. They are atheists that picked the bad guy from the most popular religion to prove a point about how they feel about religiosity.
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ai123
02/09/24 2:16:40 AM
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The amount of time spent thinking up that puerile acronym should have been devoted to realizing how fucking oppressive this attack on freedom is.

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Guide
02/09/24 2:21:14 AM
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Atralis posted...
Do you disagree? I thought that Satanists were quite open about it. They are atheists that picked the bad guy from the most popular religion to prove a point about how they feel about religiosity.

Depends on which satanism. The ones that have these politicians pissing themselves are entirely a political movement, but LaVey Satanism is more of a philosophical creed-as-religion thing. Then there's the actual Hail Satan types, strong Scandi black metal presence there.

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Dark_Arbron
02/09/24 2:28:18 AM
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Guide posted...
There needs to be a law making it a crime to try to send bills that are in obvious violation of the Constitution. At least the First Amendment.

This. No more of this throw shit at the wall and see what sticks bullshit. There needs to be consequences for even trying.

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AceMos
02/09/24 2:30:16 AM
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Guide posted...
Then there's the actual Hail Satan types
ok even if ppl do legit worship satan who cares so long as they are not hurting anyone

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CountCorvinus
02/09/24 2:42:30 AM
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Atralis posted...
Do you disagree? I thought that Satanists were quite open about it. They are atheists that picked the bad guy from the most popular religion to prove a point about how they feel about religiosity.

I'm a Satanist, and I'm very sincere in my beliefs. Many religions are non-theistic.

I also think it's very ignorant whenever someone does attempt a counter-balance to the religious privilege Christians are afforded in this country, that you assume they're doing it to just troll them.

Just so you're aware, even though TST as an organization is more known for its activism, not all members join for that reason.

Guide posted...
Depends on which satanism. The ones that have these politicians pissing themselves are entirely a political movement,

Incorrect. TST has their own philosophy, local congregations, religious services, rituals, community.... They're just as much a religion as others.

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HylianFox
02/09/24 4:14:35 AM
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AH TELL YA WHAT lT MEANS TAH ME

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Quezovercoatl
02/09/24 4:52:28 AM
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CountCorvinus posted...
I'm a Satanist, and I'm very sincere in my beliefs.
What are your beliefs? Seriously, I'm curious. No judgement.
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FortuneCookie
02/09/24 10:57:35 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
You sound a little triggered

There do exists theistic Satanists. (Probably fewer in number than sun-worshippers.) For the most part, you have the LaVeyan method of, "I'm worshipping the bad guy, lol."

It's a protest religion. And they have every right to it.

I don't have to like it. That's what freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and freedom of speech are all about. As long they're not actively hurting you, they're allowed to do as they please.

So, while I don't like their religion, the thing that triggers me in this equation is someone telling them they have no right to it. I don't have to like their religion. You don't have like to like mine. The important thing is that people are allowed to keep their own religion, or leave religion alone, so long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others. This Christian group is attempting to do just that.
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Alucard188
02/09/24 10:58:46 AM
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One theocracy under God, apparently.

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Tyranthraxus
02/09/24 11:15:44 AM
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Guide posted...
Depends on which satanism. The ones that have these politicians pissing themselves are entirely a political movement,

Not exactly. The Satanic Temple does have its own dogma. It's weird in the sense that it's a "secular atheist religion" but they do have their own beliefs to which they argue are held in the same sincerity as other religions. The part that most people are probably familiar with is the employment of satanic symbolism as a means to counteract taboos impressed by other religions.

Church of Satan is the LaVeyan stuff which is basically a remixed Christianity+Magic.

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CountCorvinus
02/09/24 12:17:35 PM
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Quezovercoatl posted...
What are your beliefs? Seriously, I'm curious. No judgement.

Without typing a whole essay, I'll just say Satan to me represents personal sovereignty, pride and individuality. While both the philosophies of Anton LaVey and The Satanic Temple resonate with me deeply, I'm not too keen on organized religion, so I'd jokingly consider myself nondemonational .

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FL81
02/09/24 12:18:47 PM
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thank god I'm not religious

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mustachedmystic
02/09/24 12:21:28 PM
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For fuck sakes, the first amendment is very easy to understand, except for Republicans, it seems.

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CountCorvinus
02/09/24 12:31:49 PM
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FL81 posted...
thank god I'm not religious

Anything that doesn't conform to their christian nationalism is under attack.

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Ricemills
02/09/24 10:07:48 PM
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CountCorvinus posted...
Anything that doesn't conform to their christian nationalism is under attack.


Yeah but that post is joking tho.

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02fran
02/14/24 10:44:16 PM
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