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New art style in the portraits. Raynie looks a bit more waifu-ish, but styles are styles.
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CyricZ

TheGrindery posted...

Those poor fictional bastards.

Well, that's the point isn't it? We've dissociated. We've dehumanized the populace because they don't matter, even if we at the same time give value to named and fleshed out characters.

Lots of games either don't address that dissociation or actively revel in it.

Take Musou/Warriors games. Thousands of soldiers die in every single battle in one of those games, yet no one really addresses it and it's all the hero characters speaking to each other as though they're the only people involved in the fight and all the soldiers are just blades of grass they're cutting down. Which they are, if you follow what the game wants to imply in its tone.

My favorite example I've found recently is in Fire Emblem Warriors. There are a couple of missions where your group runs into a character (Elise or Sakura), and a second character (Camilla or Hinoka) shows up saying "Oh you kidnapped *character*! Let's fight!" You'll have a normal battle because you couldn't talk the second character out of fighting and at the end everyone will say "Oh it was just a big misunderstanding!" And I'm like yeah, a misunderstanding that left thousands dead on the battlefield.

I'm not saying it's bad or anything. I'm just drawing attention to it as a bit of an absurdity very atypical of reality that we've grown accustomed to.
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_OujiDoza_ posted...

My wife does the exact opposite of all of that

So she cranks the Rage Against the Machine the second you walk in the door?
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

We can harm males and females and animals

An unasked question is "why can we do this"? And I think the answer is GTA. The old GTAs, that were 2D. Of course, there was a big to-do at the time about being able to run over bystander human beings even then, but it was ultimately brushed off as "they're just ten-pixel tall cartoon characters, who really cares?"

Fallout was coming out around the same time and had a similar situation: low-resolution humans with little characterization apart from the text thrown at you.

Then of course, games got more modern, graphics got 3D, models got more detailed and fleshed out and bystander people actually seemed like they had their own token level of characterization if you listened to them babble long enough.

But now the Pandora's Box was opened and we couldn't put that demon back, so every subsequent game in those series (as well as others that followed it) continued the tradition because why wouldn't it? Despite the fact that it can now seem a hell of a lot more cruel.
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Jiggy101011 posted...

Probably the same reason you can drive through traffic light poles but not trees.

I think that's more of a graphics/physics/collision thing.

If a lamp post gets knocked over, it will clatter to the ground because it's just a stick, so laying horizontally isn't a big deal.

If a tree gets knocked over, you have to accommodate for there being a top with branches and foliage. Do you have it fall to its horizontal side? Then the branches clip through the ground. Do you have it collide at its edge, then you got a tree sitting weirdly at a diagonal. It's incredibly difficult (especially in the PS2 era) to get a tree to fall convincingly if it's anything but a trunk.

You can go another route and just have the tree disintegrate when you plow through it, but that's immersion breaking as well.
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CyricZ

It's societal for the most part. The unspoken agreement of devs and publishers not to cross that cultural line.

In some countries it's illegal, but really I just think its about the fact that no one wants to be the big dev/publisher to cross that line and get that publicity.

Also it's pretty much understood that anyone who crosses that line would only be doing it for the shock value.

I mean there are games where kids die and in Walking Dead Season 1 you can have your character mercy kill a child, but it absolutely made narrative sense.
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CyricZ

wow
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CyricZ

So when are we going to post pictures of the black Amazons and try to affect further how confused we are?

Amazons are a people created by Zeus that do not age, thus trying to apply typical racial skin tone progression doesn't jive.
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CyricZ

Got the Perfect Chronology edition.

My first try I think I got up to getting Aht and not much further. Second try I don't think I even got out of the mines/caves whatever.

This doesn't say too much of course, since progression can be pretty nonlinear for the game, but we're going to give it the old college try this time. I think I got distracted by "must plays" both of the previous times. My next "must play" is Yakuza 6 and we've got a cool two months until that drops.

Every one I talk to about this game is like dude play it all the way through because it's really good. I really want to give this game its due.

Honestly I hovered a bit over picking the "Friendly" difficulty, because I remember the combat being eh after a while, but I'm settling on Normal.
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CyricZ

Oh I got the Business Nerves all right :O
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CyricZ

TIL the Evil Queen in Snow White has a name: Grimhilde.
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CyricZ

Shit I totally forgot about that.
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Rika_Furude posted...

fuck, pat from two best friends has a full playthrough

Uh, of NieR, yeah, but not Automata.

Liam did a full stream of it, though.

Honestly, I'm kind of expecting a future Pat and Woolie LP to be Automata. Woolie kinda splooged at the demo last year.
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CyricZ

Having grown up with Evil Queens and Maleficents and Ursulas, yeah.
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Darkman124 posted...

Balrog0 posted...

also so open to graft and favoritism in contracting

if i were capable of love, i would love you for your insight. brilliant observation.

frequently i notice you catching these sorts of things that i don't think about

it is appreciated

Gotta agree there.
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CyricZ

Screw you I love puzzles.
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CyricZ

If I can chip in on the Battle of Coruscant discussion.

It's a mess, and it's not even strictly speaking "a battle". The opening tracking shot is cool to look at, but (while we're on the subject of over-analyzing things) it doesn't demonstrate how a battle like that would go. There are no lines. No formations. There are just Venators and Munificents dropped all over the battlefield like they were dumped out of a toy box into a jumble.

Furthermore, once the action switches to Anakin and Obi-Wan, the rest of the battle is effectively irrelevant. They go in, kill Dooku, chase Grievous around, and crash the Invisible Hand on-planet, and... I guess the battle in orbit is over? It's not like they showed us. :-P
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CyricZ

I enjoyed Hidden Figures, even if it took a few liberties
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s0nicfan posted...

Meteor Man

Ooof, now there's a film I had forgotten and wish to re-forget.
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Milkman5 posted...

that makes me an idiot troll?

Don't box yourself in man. There are lot of things about you that does that. ;)
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CyricZ

Such a statesman.
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CyricZ

Well... that's just a leftist study and itself fake news, it is it is.
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CyricZ

Daily "No man, we're totally not insecure about our opinions on disliking TLJ" topic.
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CyricZ

If we're talking "polar opposite", then no. No matter what, we'd have to be able to find some kind of common ground or else the relationship doesn't really have a future.

I mean, I'm all for engaging with people with different political views than me, but I don't know if I could *live* with and raise children with someone that far on the other end of the scale.

Honestly, I'm a pretty politically minded person, and one of several things I'm looking for in a companion (and I feel we all do regardless of knowing it or not) is someone to sound off on ideas, opinions, and complaints, regardless of whether those are political, religious, social, anime, etc. If I come to my girlfriend and want to vent about something stupid the president did, I'd be looking for support and understanding, not an argument about how he's going to fix the country if we'd just give him a chance.

Fortunately I live in Mass right now, so I'm not especially worried about being too picky in that regard.
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Justindbz posted...

34 and besides waking up with a hurt neck or back occasionally plus I seem to cramp up a lot easier... besides that everything feels the same... and I think the neck and back thing is due to my crappy mattress or sleeping in my recliner.

www.casper.com

Best fucking sleep of my life.
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CyricZ

Really? I honestly didn't think the last dungeon was all that bad, but then... I guess I've had worse. :-P
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LJRENEGADE posted...

Personally, I like Haruka in all the games.

Oh, I don't dislike Haruka. She serves as a nice moral center for Kiryu. I just wish she had more agency in the stories after Y1. They could do a ton with the character but they settled for safe.
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CyricZ

I'm 38 and I finally feel like my life is starting. Good job, my own place, good friends. Now I just have to find a companion.
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NeonOctopus posted...

How accurate is Yakuza for the real Yakuza? >_> I'm watching a short documentary and it's seems to line up a lot with things

https://boingboing.net/2010/08/10/yakuza-3-review.html

Never a bad time to read this article. :)
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CyricZ

the_cajun88 posted...

Second_Chances posted...

you could try not insulting people

dont be such a *******c

Wow. It used to be "***c".

I have been away from CE a long time.
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CyricZ

I first read "Most annoying Pokemon ever" and actually got kinda hyped for the topic's direction.
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CyricZ

http://factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/

/topic
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Hexenherz posted...

I thought TFA was so boring and the characters so boring and the dialogue so forced it turned me off to the idea of paying to watch TLJ.

That's fine if that's your opinion, but the question is: did your dislike of the film have anything to do with the characters' gender or skin color?

I mean, no, right? You said as much. So why does this subject keep coming up if it has nothing to do with the perceived lack of quality?

Are you accusing the writers and directors of spending valuable creativity points on "diversity" and fewer on "quality"? I mean, I'm not in the film industry, but I don't think that's how it works.

I picture a ludicrous scenario with Rian Johnson sitting in the director's chair like "Phew! Glad we got a woman as a lead! Now I can sit and relax and not work nearly as hard as I would if the lead were a man!"
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CyricZ

pegusus123456 posted...

And I find it kind of hilarious when I get the ad for something like Game Grumps playing Doki Doki LIterature Club.

Indeed. They're playing to the gamer crowd in a rather transparent attempt to appeal to the male youths and bolster the swell of the alt-right.

But anyway, I wouldn't accuse if I couldn't produce.

It wasn't this exact video, but this was the subject: the socialism of Venezuela, how it's apparently the single factor that ruined the country's economy, and how Bernie Sanders wants that for America. The channel is full of these types of videos: cherry-picking facts and giving surface-level analysis on complicated issues, the majority of them against the left, although they save a swipe or two for the Republican Party as well.

Of course, PU is but one of dozens of channels pushing libertarianism and being anti-left. The only thing I find remarkable about them is the way their ads find their way into gaming videos.
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AlecSkorpio posted...

To be fair, the demographic in question is young boys.

I guess my next question is "to what degree is the 'young boys' demographic suffering?"

I'd ask people in this topic to produce me a young boy dissatisfied with Star Wars, but... well...

Nah, joke's too easy.
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50Blessings posted...

Pretty bad business move to alienate your target demographic to go after an uncertain demographic.

Pretty bad demographic if they feel threatened by "the other" getting a push.

And no I don't deny it. I just see it as marketing, not a conspiracy.
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CyricZ

AlecSkorpio posted...

And there isn't really anything wrong with it, it's just the execution has been sloppy and transparent.

I can agree with this statement. Until this push actually gives us an inferior product, then they can do whatever they want with genders and skin color.

Although I'd really like to see more nonhumans in important roles.
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CyricZ

50Blessings posted...

The idea is that the agenda is to heavily push Star Wars towards women, not to have it made by women.

I would think someone as smart as you would understand that.

Ah, you're sweet. In that case, then Kennedy is trying to sell Star Wars, her product to a market that doesn't buy as much.

That's called being a businessperson, not having a feminist agenda.

See being as smart as I am, I can make these kinds of deductions.
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CyricZ

50Blessings posted...

I kind of thought the feminist stuff was BS until I saw a compilation of Kathleen Kennedy mentioning women and it seriously does seem like she has an agenda with how much she talks about pushing women.

All male directors.
All male writers.
Majority of new characters male.

What an agenda.
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CyricZ

Pretty
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Is that even a thing?

I mean, I'm just one person but I know like five lesbians and get along fine with them.
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CyricZ

FLUFFYGERM posted...

So what's wrong with a conservative/libertarian channel spending money to advertise their content?

On its own, nothing, apart from the usual method of the spinning of facts to push a narrative.

It's just having all that combined with the pretense of being an institute of higher learning that rubs me the wrong way.
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CyricZ

FLUFFYGERM posted...

What's wrong with Prager U?

Well for one, they imply with the "U" that they're a university, which is very much not the case. At best they're journalism, but even that's a stretch.

In reality, PragerU is a conservative/libertarian channel run by Dennis Prager who admittedly have good video editing but they also buy ad time on YT enough that you're bound to stumble across them at some point even if you're watching video game channels.
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CyricZ

Kitt posted...

This is off topic but are you the same CyricZ that I see under every Super Best Friends video that I watch on YouTube?

Where else would I be? :)

Cornmuffins posted...

I've noticed you've been posting lately, how's life?

Hey Muffins. :) Things are pretty good. My job's going well so I was able to move closer to the work. Love life still sucks but one thing at a time.
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CyricZ

I mean, his issue is certainly not as simple as a lot of people make it, but for crying out loud, if you're gonna plead your case, find a better platform than them.
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CyricZ

In a post TLJ world, it has been apparently established that:

A) Critics don't know what they're doing and are only in it for the money and respect.

B) You really can't gauge how good a film is until the all-important alt-right demographic weighs in.
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CyricZ

Eh.
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CyricZ

Spoiler alert: Next reply is "Lollll"

And they just alternate ad infinitum.
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wackyteen posted...

yeah but somebody in charge had to agree to some extent <_<

You're not wrong. The decision to just end the whole thing was cowardly.
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CyricZ

NeonOctopus posted...

Aw, lame.

Does she still follow you around in 2-4? It's kinda fun just running around with her everywhere, especially seeing her cheer me on during the cage matches lol

Not nearly as much. Walk around time with Haruka is pretty much confined to Premium Adventure.
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