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Second from the left looks like she'd give good head
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Ironic how with disney wars the force is now being given a gender.

Going from left to right: the first two look like they give good head and take it in the backdoor.
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Leight_Weight posted...

Second from the left looks like she'd give good head

great post
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Offworlder1 posted...

Ironic how with disney wars the force is now being given a gender.

I don't believe you think they mean that literally

I really don't.
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I don't care about the sentiment one way or the other, but they could have cranked out better shirts than that.
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I kind of thought the feminist stuff was BS until I saw a compilation of Kathleen Kennedy mentioning women and it seriously does seem like she has an agenda with how much she talks about pushing women.
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SSJGrimReaper posted...

Leight_Weight posted...

Second from the left looks like she'd give good head

great post

this is why feminism won
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"Wahh LFL are feminist SJWs with an agenda"

*They hire Benioff and Weiss to helm a new trilogy*

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eg87CszLGs

Kathleen Kennedy is assuming that girls didn't care about Star Wars because they couldn't identify with the main male hero, they could only identify with Princess Leia. However she still thinks boys can identify with female characters like Rey or Jyn Erso or admiral Holdo etc... This narrow minded vision explains why Luke has been mishandled in Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, because girls could not relate to him, he was therefore completely useless to Disney.
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50Blessings posted...

I kind of thought the feminist stuff was BS until I saw a compilation of Kathleen Kennedy mentioning women and it seriously does seem like she has an agenda with how much she talks about pushing women.

All male directors.
All male writers.
Majority of new characters male.

What an agenda.
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With a person in power like Kathleen Kennedy pushing all the SJW bullshit and modern feminist agenda shit in disney wars I would not be surprised if they did so.

SW is now a way to push this womans agenda which is modern feminism.
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I wonder what they mean by that message. It might just be what they consider a catchy slogan, but maybe they actually thought it out and there is something more profound.
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CyricZ posted...

All male directors.
All male writers.
Majority of new characters male.

What an agenda.

The idea is that the agenda is to heavily push Star Wars towards women, not to have it made by women.

I would think someone as smart as you would understand that.
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CyricZ posted...

50Blessings posted...

I kind of thought the feminist stuff was BS until I saw a compilation of Kathleen Kennedy mentioning women and it seriously does seem like she has an agenda with how much she talks about pushing women.

All male directors.
All male writers.
Majority of new characters male.

What an agenda.

That's just a red herring. They're secretly controlled by the feminist illuminati with the goal of SJWifying all movies

CyricZ posted...

50Blessings posted...

I kind of thought the feminist stuff was BS until I saw a compilation of Kathleen Kennedy mentioning women and it seriously does seem like she has an agenda with how much she talks about pushing women.

All male directors.
All male writers.
Majority of new characters male.

What an agenda.

Yes let's cherrypick irrelevant statistics

What's with feminists and refusing to acknowledge obvious political/ideological plugs? They act like it loses all legitimacy the moment you mention it and like to pretend that never in the history of media have ideologies seeped into creative works (at least not their own, and especially not in things they like). Nope it's all totally normal and you're just a bigot for calling a spade a spade. They do that shit on purpose. They intentionally bait people. It's a core part of their personality and they do it in everyday life.
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TLJ shows men being incompetant, weak, or stupid. Name one male character that was not made a bafoon or incompetent.
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I honestly don't know how someone can't see that Kathleen Kennedy is pushing more diversity into Star Wars, especially when it comes to women.

Like, maybe calling it a feminist agenda is a bit much, but there's clearly a focus being put on trying to get more women on board with Star Wars.

And there isn't really anything wrong with it, it's just the execution has been sloppy and transparent.
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50Blessings posted...

The idea is that the agenda is to heavily push Star Wars towards women, not to have it made by women.

I would think someone as smart as you would understand that.

Ah, you're sweet. In that case, then Kennedy is trying to sell Star Wars, her product to a market that doesn't buy as much.

That's called being a businessperson, not having a feminist agenda.

See being as smart as I am, I can make these kinds of deductions.
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TLJ sucked
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CyricZ posted...

Ah, you're sweet. In that case, then Kennedy is trying to sell Star Wars, her product to a market that doesn't buy as much.

That's called being a businessperson, not having a feminist agenda.

See being as smart as I am, I can make these kinds of deductions.

Pretty bad business move to alienate your target demographic to go after an uncertain demographic.

Glad to see that you do agree with me that they are pushing towards women, though.
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AlecSkorpio posted...

And there isn't really anything wrong with it, it's just the execution has been sloppy and transparent.

I can agree with this statement. Until this push actually gives us an inferior product, then they can do whatever they want with genders and skin color.

Although I'd really like to see more nonhumans in important roles.
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CyricZ posted...

Ah, you're sweet. In that case, then Kennedy is trying to sell Star Wars, her product to a market that doesn't buy as much.

Kathleen is trying to push something that she thinks people ought to like. This video is all about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zd6ljuRikY
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50Blessings posted...

Pretty bad business move to alienate your target demographic to go after an uncertain demographic.

Pretty bad demographic if they feel threatened by "the other" getting a push.

And no I don't deny it. I just see it as marketing, not a conspiracy.
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CyricZ posted...

Pretty bad demographic if they feel threatened by "the other" getting a push.

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe, just maybe, they don't like the sub standard product that's being put out?

No, of course not. The Force is Female, after all. It can't be bad. They're just threatened.
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Funbazooka posted...

"Bolshevik Marketing"

Not very subtle.

CyricZ posted...

Pretty bad demographic if they feel threatened by "the other" getting a push.

To be fair, the demographic in question is young boys.

The only place Star Wars is actually suffering is in toy sales (maybe merchandise as a whole, but I'd assume it's more just toys from all the gloom and doom I've seen nerds cry about), I'm pretty sure.

The films still make a nice profit. Hell, I'm pretty sure I read that TLJ was like only the 3rd in terms of drop off when inflation was taken into effect.

Disney could screw Star Wars with mismanagement, but they're hardly at the danger zone yet. I don't think people realize that TFA and Rogue Ones are more outliers than norms since they had a lot of casual hype behind them due to being the return of star wars, and the first "side story".
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AlecSkorpio posted...

To be fair, the demographic in question is young boys.

I guess my next question is "to what degree is the 'young boys' demographic suffering?"

I'd ask people in this topic to produce me a young boy dissatisfied with Star Wars, but... well...

Nah, joke's too easy.
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Offworlder1 posted...

TLJ shows men being incompetant, weak, or stupid. Name one male character that was not made a bafoon or incompetent.

Kylo Ren
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Funbazooka posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eg87CszLGs

Kathleen Kennedy is assuming that girls didn't care about Star Wars because they couldn't identify with the main male hero, they could only identify with Princess Leia. However she still thinks boys can identify with female characters like Rey or Jyn Erso or admiral Holdo etc... This narrow minded vision explains why Luke has been mishandled in Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, because girls could not relate to him, he was therefore completely useless to Disney.

People don't realize that there's more to a character than just how much volume their chest has.
As a guy, I couldn't relate to Rey at all because her character was just so absurd it ruined my suspension of disbelief for the movie. Actually same thing with Finn. edit: I'm talking about TFA

I thought TFA was so boring and the characters so boring and the dialogue so forced it turned me off to the idea of paying to watch TLJ.
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Hexenherz posted...

I thought TFA was so boring and the characters so boring and the dialogue so forced it turned me off to the idea of paying to watch TLJ.

That's fine if that's your opinion, but the question is: did your dislike of the film have anything to do with the characters' gender or skin color?

I mean, no, right? You said as much. So why does this subject keep coming up if it has nothing to do with the perceived lack of quality?

Are you accusing the writers and directors of spending valuable creativity points on "diversity" and fewer on "quality"? I mean, I'm not in the film industry, but I don't think that's how it works.

I picture a ludicrous scenario with Rian Johnson sitting in the director's chair like "Phew! Glad we got a woman as a lead! Now I can sit and relax and not work nearly as hard as I would if the lead were a man!"
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I feel like they just didn't spend any points on diversity or creativity. And realistically I don't know if they had an agenda or not but the way the characters are written, I'm more inclined to believe they wanted to be more inclusive than not and just didn't know how to pull it off.
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Offworlder1 posted...

TLJ shows men being incompetant, weak, or stupid. Name one male character that was not made a bafoon or incompetent.

Han Solo wasn't made stupid in TLJ.
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I don't think anyone is mad that Rey is the lead character and female. I think they're mad that she is a pretty boring character by way of not having to overcome any challenges so far really and it leads people to assume that this must be because of some feminist agenda, which would link the quality of the movies and the women lead character together.
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CyricZ posted...

I guess my next question is "to what degree is the 'young boys' demographic suffering?"

They're not. It's the Star Wars brand that is suffering from losing out on sales of their merchandise.
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For what's it's worth, in Portuguese the word force (fora) is indeed female.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

TLJ shows men being incompetant, weak, or stupid. Name one male character that was not made a bafoon or incompetent.

Kylo Ren

you're joking right?
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Offworlder1 posted...

TLJ shows men being incompetant, weak, or stupid. Name one male character that was not made a bafoon or incompetent.

To be fair, everyone in that movie is incompetent and does stupid things that end up hurting/risking the wellbeing of others. The only people that weren't complete fools were Rose's sister and Chewbacca.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

I wonder what they mean by that message. It might just be what they consider a catchy slogan, but maybe they actually thought it out and there is something more profound.

I think it's just a play on those "The Future is Female" slogan shirts.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

TLJ shows men being incompetant, weak, or stupid. Name one male character that was not made a bafoon or incompetent.

Kylo Ren

you're joking right?

He was the biggest fool of all.
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Dunno if it has been said but The Force IS female in Spanish.

I mean, it's still an abstract concept, but we say "La fuerza", which is female.
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