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TopicGod damn Amazon shipping sucks if you don't get 2 day shipping.
BGleason22
06/24/17 2:50:10 AM
#12
It's not about whether or not you have free two day shipping with Prime, that only works on sellers that are also Prime.

If a seller is Prime, and the buyer is prime, you will get it in two days. If the seller is Prime, and the buyer is not, it's usually 4-5 days.

If the seller is not Prime, it doesn't matter if you pay for the service or not, you have to read on the sellers site when they will ship the item. It could be 2 days, it could be 2 months from now. Even with a Prime membership and free 2 day shipping, if you buy something from a seller that is not Prime, it still might not ship for weeks, but when it does, it'll ship 2nd day air.

That's why a seller with the Prime logo/icon is at a premium. Because you know you can get it quick, whether or not you have a Prime membership.
TopicHow much of our tax dollars goes towards food stamps?
BGleason22
06/17/17 9:11:03 PM
#20
Zodd3224 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


When you say Dodging taxes, do you mean using the tax law to their benefit and legally paying less taxes or do you mean those that are breaking the law and not getting caught?

Because if you didn't use the existing laws to pay the least amount of taxes as possible, then you sir, are not the brightest bulb on the tree.


Who do you think is responsible for laws where someone like Mitt Romney makes 20.9 million in a year and pays 13.9% tax rate? He's "using existing laws" that were put in place because the 1% own this country. Capital gains tax breaks are another bullshit loophole for the wealthy. And people are left going ape shit because some degenerates (not all food stamp users) abuse food stamps, which is a drop in the bucket relatively.


So, you're backtracking out of your "dodging taxes" comment I take it.


BTW, 13.9% of $20.9 million is about 3 MILLION DOLLARS .

That's one person, paying almost 3 million dollars in taxes in one year while about 140 million people pay NOTHING.

And you're complaining that this 1 person doesn't pay more?

Wow.
TopicHow much of our tax dollars goes towards food stamps?
BGleason22
06/17/17 3:29:34 AM
#13
Zodd3224 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Antifar posted...
$71 billion last year

Say it was $100 billion for the entire US. The US is guesttimated to collect $6.56 trillion. So that is ~1.5% of what is collected.

Source:
http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/current_revenue


And everyone bitches about food stamps rather than the rich dodging taxes


When you say Dodging taxes, do you mean using the tax law to their benefit and legally paying less taxes or do you mean those that are breaking the law and not getting caught?

Because if you didn't use the existing laws to pay the least amount of taxes as possible, then you sir, are not the brightest bulb on the tree.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 3:13:12 AM
#102
Tmaster148 posted...
DOW is at record highs largely due to promises made by the current president that are favorable to businesses.


Saved for posterity.

Good job Trump!

Reminder that one of those promises was no federal min wage increase, that states should decide. Which is exactly what is happening now.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 3:04:53 AM
#100
Sativa_Rose posted...
I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work.



This is exactly what I think a lot of people don't understand.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 2:47:36 AM
#96
Tmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage.

Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases.

System works.

Thanks for proving the point.


No point was really proven as pay doesn't correlate how hard a job is, just the value of the job.

BGleason22 posted...
Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem?


And unemployment doesn't always factor people not looking for work. DOW is at record highs largely due to promises made by the current president that are favorable to businesses. Stock Markets are largely an indicator to the profits of companies and companies can make better profits without selling more goods or services.

Plus wages have been stagnated for a while now. Poor and Middle class workers should actually be being paid more than they currently are and if this continues we will face another depression as a super poor class and a super wealthly class does not create a good economy.

Anyways since you haven't answered my question about whether or not you would take a better paying job over a full time job at McDonald's if the job at McDonald's was enough to pay for a basic standard of living + some extra I have no reason to continue this discussion.

You believe that people being paid min wage aren't hard workers and don't deserve to earn a decent standard of living, because you feel threaten by those min wage workers earning more money.


I have answered your question. I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should anyone. People that are working MIN wage jobs, for a length of time that they expect to be able to survive on those wages, aren't those hard workers. If they were, like we've already agreed on, they'd get promoted and get better wages.

I've also stated, I think 5 times now, that I think MIN wage should be increased.


And why is it McDonalds? Shouldn't your example be a job that currently pays $15 (if that's the magic dollar amount that everyone agrees on is fair, if not $15, insert the number you think is fair)

Remember, if you increase min wage, you increase all wages across all industries.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 2:28:36 AM
#92
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment


Reminder.

This is the point under contention

and i'm not wrong


Fact = a thing that is indisputably the case.

Opinion = a view or judgment formed about something

theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment


Rika_Furude posted...
and i'm not wrong



Hmmmmm......
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 2:21:08 AM
#90
Rika_Furude posted...
theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment


Reminder.

This is the point under contention
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 2:16:25 AM
#89
FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage.

Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases.

System works.

Thanks for proving the point.

.Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop.


Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:59:55 AM
#84
Tmaster148 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?


He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already.


Are you serious?

I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably.

If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM.

Do you understand what that word means?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:58:39 AM
#83
Rika_Furude posted...
i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?


I've stated multiple times that people SHOULD be able to SURVIVE on min wage. I have never said that people should not be able to survive, so why are you putting words in my mouth?

Edit - Not trolling Rika - I'm trying to get you to understand the extreme flaw in your own logic, by questioning it and making you think about it
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:54:07 AM
#78
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...

Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?

professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?



Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?

greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do.


Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage

they are more focused on surviving paycheck to paycheck than improving themselves


Does someone surviving paycheck to paycheck have more or less incentive to improve their financial situation compared to someone living comfortably?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:41:28 AM
#75
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...

Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?

professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?



Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?

greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do.


Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:39:21 AM
#72
Captain_Qwark posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?


a basic, livable income doesn't mean you'll be able to support family, which most people want. That's a pretty good reason


I've already stated multiple times this is exactly my stance. MINIMUM wage does not equal = BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...

Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?

professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?



Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?


lderivedx posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?


Yeah, why do people who have a decent standard of living already want to advance their careers?


at an entry level job?

Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?

Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society?
>


There is the whole quote, so you don't take my words out of context next time.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:35:14 AM
#67
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...

Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?

professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?



Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:23:03 AM
#59
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want....

With a MINIMUM effort.

.....

40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers


Oh. My. God.

Do people seriously think this?

it's more effort than working part time or casually, are you denying this?


Good luck in life. You'll see.

That's about all the time this back and forth is worth.

I'm doing quite well actually, but whatever. Keep pretending 40 hours a week isnt worth a roof over your head, enough food to live and something to keep you entertained.


at an entry level job?

Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?

Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:21:22 AM
#58
lderivedx posted...
BGleason22 posted...
I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling?


You don't have to sleep?

Person I quoted said they give their employers 50% of their time. Thanks for slowly picking up the point.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:20:40 AM
#57
tremain07 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
lderivedx posted...
The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting.


I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling?

Yeah, irresponsible trash that has kids or spends money on shit they don't need.


At 84 hours per week and the Department of Labor laws about overtime, wouldn't you say they were at the very least, fairly compensated for their time at work?

Hell, if you worked 84 hours in a week even at min wage you'd be making $40,000 a year..... with kids we're talking about a 2 income family, so $80,000 a year. I'm pretty sure you'd survive.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:14:24 AM
#52
lderivedx posted...
The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting.


I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:12:08 AM
#50
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want....

With a MINIMUM effort.

.....

40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers


Oh. My. God.

Do people seriously think this?

it's more effort than working part time or casually, are you denying this?


Good luck in life. You'll see.

That's about all the time this back and forth is worth.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:05:23 AM
#42
Tmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
ITT: People think minimal effort = normalTmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
But this statement, is what I have the biggest problem with. A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job. MINIMUM is a they key. If that were the case, everyone should get by with minimal effort. Minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs for a reason, they are a stepping stone.


Because it's such a terrible thing that someone putting in 40 hours a week should be able to pay their monthly bills.

Also it's not bad that people have spare money aside to buy other things besides their bills. It helps fuel the economy if people are capable of spending more on things they want.


In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want....

With a MINIMUM effort.

.....

I have no words.


If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy more than what they need from their paycheck. I'm not saying people working min wage for 40 hours a week need to be able to afford expensive things, but if someone working 40 hours a week on min wage wants to go out one night to see a movie they should be able to afford to do so. Also before you twist my words here, no I don't me they should be able to go every night to see a movie. Something like once a month isn't really a big deal..


Explain what happens to today's skilled labor that makes $15-25/hr if/when minimum wage moves to $15/hr

Does everyone get a 100% increase?

How does that translate to prices of consumer goods?

Did we just inflate the US dollar? Is everyone now better off with more money to spend or did the value of the dollar just go down the toilet?


Well I never did say that I think min wage should be $15. I was just saying you concept that someone working 40 hours on min wage and being unable to pay their monthly bills or any wants is dumb and will only hurt the economy in the long run.

It's better if people working full time jobs don't need welfare just to get by, because their job doesn't pay enough. It's also better if people working full time jobs make more than the money they need to spend to get by as well so they have extra money to put back into the economy.


I already stated I think min wage should be increased. I believe that min wage should be enough to cover bills and survive. I was mostly upset by the comment that min wage should be enough to be able to survive and have comforts. That makes absolutely no sense. If that were the case, what is stopping the majority of society from giving minimal effort? What is pushing society to strive for better?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 1:02:10 AM
#40
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want....

With a MINIMUM effort.

.....

40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers


Oh. My. God.

Do people seriously think this?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:53:56 AM
#34
Tmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
ITT: People think minimal effort = normalTmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
But this statement, is what I have the biggest problem with. A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job. MINIMUM is a they key. If that were the case, everyone should get by with minimal effort. Minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs for a reason, they are a stepping stone.


Because it's such a terrible thing that someone putting in 40 hours a week should be able to pay their monthly bills.

Also it's not bad that people have spare money aside to buy other things besides their bills. It helps fuel the economy if people are capable of spending more on things they want.


In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want....

With a MINIMUM effort.

.....

I have no words.


If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy more than what they need from their paycheck. I'm not saying people working min wage for 40 hours a week need to be able to afford expensive things, but if someone working 40 hours a week on min wage wants to go out one night to see a movie they should be able to afford to do so. Also before you twist my words here, no I don't me they should be able to go every night to see a movie. Something like once a month isn't really a big deal..


Explain what happens to today's skilled labor that makes $15-25/hr if/when minimum wage moves to $15/hr

Does everyone get a 100% increase?

How does that translate to prices of consumer goods?

Did we just inflate the US dollar? Is everyone now better off with more money to spend or did the value of the dollar just go down the toilet?
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:50:44 AM
#32
CADE FOSTER posted...
America is fucked up why are people so greedy we dont want to help the less fortunate ever its all about ourselves always

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37159686
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:49:09 AM
#29
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job.

They should if they are working full time hours. Otherwise what is the point of the job?

What is the point of an entry level job? Is that your question?

"entry level" doesn't mean "unable to support self". It means "first step in your professional career"

Yes, I agree, thanks for proving the point.

You should not expect to cover all your bills and have enough money for comforts in your first step in your career, it should motivate you to become better, to get a better job, to improve yourself, so you CAN afford those comforts.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:46:24 AM
#26
ITT: People think minimal effort = normalTmaster148 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
But this statement, is what I have the biggest problem with. A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job. MINIMUM is a they key. If that were the case, everyone should get by with minimal effort. Minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs for a reason, they are a stepping stone.


Because it's such a terrible thing that someone putting in 40 hours a week should be able to pay their monthly bills.

Also it's not bad that people have spare money aside to buy other things besides their bills. It helps fuel the economy if people are capable of spending more on things they want.


In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want....

With a MINIMUM effort.

.....

I have no words

There is a difference between wants and needs

If you want something. WORK for it.
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:42:45 AM
#25
3rd_Best_Master posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Drpooplol posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment

You don't know what facts are.


I agree that the minimum wage should be raised, I disagree that it should be set at $15/hr by XXXX year.

But this statement, is what I have the biggest problem with. A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job. MINIMUM is a they key. If that were the case, everyone should get by with minimal effort. Minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs for a reason, they are a stepping stone.

Wasn't the case when the minimum wage was first implemented. Didn't cause a societal collapse then, don't see why raising it to match inflation would cause society's downfall now.


https://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth484/minwage.html
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:41:57 AM
#23
Rika_Furude posted...
BGleason22 posted...
A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job.

They should if they are working full time hours. Otherwise what is the point of the job?

What is the point of an entry level job? Is that your question?
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:40:07 AM
#57
CEs_EFG posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
What lesson does a kid really learn if you hit them? They definitely won't learn not to do it again, and they will learn to do a better job making sure they don't get caught next time.


this is probably the stupidest post ITT, this can go for any type of punishment
Topicwhy dont americans want their minimum wage to be livable and raise with expenses
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:31:05 AM
#12
Drpooplol posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment

You don't know what facts are.


I agree that the minimum wage should be raised, I disagree that it should be set at $15/hr by XXXX year.

But this statement, is what I have the biggest problem with. A person should absolutely NOT expect to cover all their bills and have comforts with a minimum wage job. MINIMUM is a they key. If that were the case, everyone should get by with minimal effort. Minimum wage jobs are minimum wage jobs for a reason, they are a stepping stone.
TopicGameStop Makes a Shittier Version of GameFly
BGleason22
06/17/17 12:20:43 AM
#3
How can anything be worse then gamefly?
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/16/17 12:35:09 AM
#45
RebelElite791 posted...
Acpeds is a conservative group and is NOT the AAP or equivalent


Ok. Was there a point?

Let me guess. You don't agree so the points these pediatricians make are invalidated by your opinion.
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/16/17 12:19:52 AM
#42
RebelElite791 posted...
Imagine being such a piece of shit that you ignore literally every study out there because youre so eager to physically harm another human being you brought into this world


I will only comment about the "every study out there" part of this quote, because the rest is obviously troll bait. But this is simply false:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-science-says-and-doesn-t-about-spanking/


http://goodparent.org/corporal-punishment/research-on-corporal-punishment/evidence-favoring-the-use-of-disciplinary-spanking/

https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/parenting-issues/corporal-punishment-a-scientific-review-of-its-use-in-discipline/research-on-disciplinary-spanking-is-misleading

I could go on and on
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/15/17 11:53:58 PM
#35
Entire generations grew up getting spanked. Fact. Not ancedotal. Fact.

Simple question: How are more recent generations better off by simply not being spanked? Less violent, should be the obvious answer, however we all have access to the news, so we know that's not true.

Bonus points for citations of studies that single out spanking as a specific variable.
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/15/17 11:46:42 PM
#31
JJWatt posted...
BGleason22 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
What about entire generations that grew up getting spanked?

There's a near endless list of shit humans have done wrong in the past.

Great point. Doesn't answer the question though.

What were the consequences?


Leaders of today

Don't forget the leaders of yesterday, and the day before, etc. They also all grew up getting spanked. Were they all bad?
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/15/17 11:31:46 PM
#24
voldothegr8 posted...
BGleason22 posted...
What about entire generations that grew up getting spanked?

There's a near endless list of shit humans have done wrong in the past.

Great point. Doesn't answer the question though.

What were the consequences?
TopicDoes spanking have a place in modern parenting?
BGleason22
06/15/17 11:21:13 PM
#19
prince_leo posted...
not really. all evidence points to it being outdated and lazy, that at best it's equal to other forms of discipline and at worst can lead to all kinds of issues
any person who knows this and continues to think spanking is an option is someone who doesn't care for 50+ years of peer-based review and study. at that point, you might as well not even argue with them because they clearly value their own personal anecdotes over anything else


What about entire generations that grew up getting spanked? Is there peer reviewed documentation that suggests that current generations are better off now solely based on the one variable of not being spanked?

Can we make a correlation that the millenials are better disciplined then the greatest generation because the latter were spanked? Please do share.
TopicToo many Asian live here in Los Angeles.
BGleason22
06/15/17 8:53:54 PM
#22
Do you guys seriously not understand how immigration/migration works?

People go to places that they relate to most/are the most comfortable, and expand out from there. It's not rocket science.

Asians came across the pacific.
Europeans came across the atlantic.

This isn't a Asian thing, or a Latino thing, or a Black thing or a White thing. - Examples:

Most Scandinavians settled in the Northern states

Italians/Irish settled in the east

Germans in the farmlands/midwest
TopicBarack Obama Could Run For Prime Minister Of Canada In 2019 (link)
BGleason22
06/15/17 8:29:58 PM
#7
frozenshock posted...
https://www.mtlblog.com/news/barack-obama-could-run-for-prime-minister-of-canada-in-2019

Imagine Trump's reaction


Why would Trump care? It's Canada.

Perhaps Obama would relax Canada's immigration laws and all of the people that promised they'd leave the country and move to Canada would actually be able to get in.
TopicWhy is it that every 8 years the USA decides to roll back 8 years by...
BGleason22
06/13/17 10:37:25 PM
#55
yusiko posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Was that Trump's fault also? At some point the Dem's are going to have to take responsibility for their own failures.




thats rich when republicans cant even take responsibility for their huge fuck up known as trump

What is the reason the Dem's lost the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014?

Figure that out, and you'll understand why they lost the White House in 2016. It didn't matter who was running. In fact, it was so bad, that even Trump won.
TopicWhy is it that every 8 years the USA decides to roll back 8 years by...
BGleason22
06/13/17 10:19:10 PM
#52
yusiko posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
The answer is pretty obvious. Well to those of us not as extremist as you are. The reason is because the population doesn't like or want the "progress" the democrats give us, so they want a change.





thats complete bullshit
if the population didnt want progress then trump wouldnt have gotten less votes than hillary

What is the reason the Dem's lost the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014?

Was that Trump's fault also? At some point the Dem's are going to have to take responsibility for their own failures.

Until then, welp..

As far as NASA goes, it's funding as a percent of our federal budget was at it's lowest since just after it's inception in the late 50s, under Obama, and that will continue.

I'm not sure where you're getting your news from.

We also spend more on education then any other nation, 28% more then average. Yet, we still struggle. Throwing money at education isn't our problem, and it's not the solution. At some point you have to restructure, because it isn't working.
TopicTrump is stupid.
BGleason22
06/10/17 12:21:57 AM
#56
FYI -

DOW now up 3,400 points in 7 months since the election results, and continues to climb.

Only 600 more to go to match the last 8 years.

Oh the humanity.

All those horrible, horrible Trump policies are sure screwing up America. How Anti-American of him.



Trump is stupid*

*If you don't own a home, don't have a job, live off the government's tit, enjoy subsidized health care, have no children, carry a lot of debt.

** Oh wait, I'm sorry that's not Trump being stupid. That's just you and your victim mentality. Somebody must be at fault for my poor life decisions. It's not me, it's Trump.
TopicI have an offer for my 357 colt python
BGleason22
06/10/17 12:01:20 AM
#3
Depending on the condition, it's worth 2-3 grand right now.

Of course, it's value will go up over time.
TopicMan do you think YOU can be a better US president than Donald Trump?
BGleason22
06/09/17 11:58:47 PM
#14
REMercsChamp posted...
Your average CEman can't even get out of bed for work in the morning or hold down a job - what makes you think they can be president?
TopicTrump is stupid.
BGleason22
06/07/17 11:46:22 PM
#53
Antifar posted...
Some useful figures in this:
But only 52 percent of Americans have money in the stock market, matching the lowest rate in 19 years, according to a Gallup Poll from April. In 2007, according to that same poll, 65 percent reported investing in the market. Based on those Gallup numbers, many Americans lost faith in the market at exactly the wrong time%u200A—%u200Ajust as it was staging a powerful comeback.

Looking at the number of Americans who own stock does not tell the whole story. To get the complete picture, it is necessary to determine how stock assets are distributed overall.

I used the 2013 Survey of Consumer Finances to calculate the distribution of equity assets broken down by equity deciles.

The top 10% hold 86.8% of all the equity. The next 10% owns 9.5% of all the equity. The rest own little to none of the equity.

The definition of equity I use is explained here and includes directly-held stock, mutual funds, IRAs, and 401ks, among other ownership instruments.
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*QLWwDp2Kz21aVed8cjQs6A.png
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*eEn0CqzhJ3KoJDwBX32dgg.png
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*x05UBbJnY7dKzqn7ffkevw.png


All this is to say: the vast majority of stock market gains go to the top 10%.


The more I think about this post, the more it drives me nuts.

That people actually think they understand what these statistics are showing, or the way that they are extrapolating the data.

Let me give one really, really simple example:

All of the following examples invest in a fund that returns 5% in one year:

High invests $100,000
Mid invests $10,0000
Low invests $1,0000

@ 5% ROI

High makes $5,000
Mid makes $500
Low makes $50

They all got the exact same ROI, anyone can do this.

What this argument does,
The top 10% hold 86.8% of all the equity. The next 10% owns 9.5% of all the equity. The rest own little to none of the equity.

or

All this is to say: the vast majority of stock market gains go to the top 10%


is take the $5,000, the $500, the $50 from my example and adds them up and divides by 3, so this very same data can show you that

High made $5,000/$5,550 or 90% (sound familiar?)
Mid made $500/$5,550 or 9%
Low made $50/$5,550 or 1%

Do you guys not see how this data is manipulated to show you what you want to hear? Get you upset? In reality, everyone made the same ROI. But Poor, poor LOW, he only made 1% and that evil bastard HIGH made 90%


It absolutely amazes me how people are so incredibly duped by statistics when they have zero knowledge, or care to learn, how they actually work.
TopicTrump is stupid.
BGleason22
06/07/17 10:54:57 PM
#45
Amputation posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Amputation posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Amputation posted...


Then why do you support someone who is anti-American? Oh, ignorance. Got it

Cool troll attempt. Bonus points will be given by the Lemmings.


If you'd like to have a serious discussion, let's start with some important questions, and we'll go from there.

Are you married?

Do you have children?

Do you own a house?

What level of debt are you in? None? Some? A lot?

Are you employed?

Do you pay for health insurance?

There are no right or wrong answers here. Or, if you just want to troll, this can be the end of our discussion.


You ignored my question by retorting with questions.


Actually I ignored it because it was a complex question fallacy.

Do you still beat your wife?

I guess your answer is you just want to troll. So enjoy


I also ignored yours because they have nothing to do with the subject matter.

There is a compelling case for my question, though.



Again, it's not a question. It's a fallacy.

I can even explain why to you if you'd like. Maybe you can walk away from this actually learning something.
TopicTrump is stupid.
BGleason22
06/07/17 10:45:41 PM
#41
Amputation posted...
BGleason22 posted...
Amputation posted...


Then why do you support someone who is anti-American? Oh, ignorance. Got it

Cool troll attempt. Bonus points will be given by the Lemmings.


If you'd like to have a serious discussion, let's start with some important questions, and we'll go from there.

Are you married?

Do you have children?

Do you own a house?

What level of debt are you in? None? Some? A lot?

Are you employed?

Do you pay for health insurance?

There are no right or wrong answers here. Or, if you just want to troll, this can be the end of our discussion.


You ignored my question by retorting with questions.


Actually I ignored it because it was a complex question fallacy.

Do you still beat your wife?

I guess your answer is you just want to troll. So enjoy
TopicSo NFL higher ups are worried about fan backlash when it comes to Kaepernick
BGleason22
06/07/17 10:38:51 PM
#133
I mean, at some point going through all these game stats that you are, it has to hit you, it's staring you right in the face,
he's just not that good.

He's an average back up that needs an offense tailored around him to be anything more.

He carries baggage.

This isn't rocket science.
TopicSo NFL higher ups are worried about fan backlash when it comes to Kaepernick
BGleason22
06/07/17 10:34:15 PM
#131
TheVipaGTS posted...
Here you go...

@ NE: First TD Pass was a 17 yard Pass in the 2nd quarter to pull the Niners within 3. So far this is the first game with a "garbage time stat" as Kaep threw a TD in the 4th making the final score 30-17

@ MIA: 11 Yard TD Pass in the 1st. 4 yard TD pass in the 3rd making the score 14-17, Miami...Threw another TD pulling them within 10 in the 4th. Defense still couldn't hold

@ CHI: His first actual dud of a game so far. No TDs in this one.

vs NYJ: 7 Yard TD in the First. This game went to OT where the Jets score a TD on their first drive. Blame Kaep or the Defense?

Still trying to figure out where his "Garbage Time" narrative is coming from and why you choose to not even acknowledge how terrible the Niners defense is and how playing from behind because of that can affect a QB (A QB btw who i admit is a back up not a superstar)


Serious question -

Why are you only focusing on TDs and not yardage, or better yet, YPA? Do those not also qualify as "garbage time stats" ?

Do you think, being 1-10 that most of his yardage came when the team was trailing late in the game, therefore, in garbage time? Do you think those yards are impressive, even knowing his team ultimately lost?

I've seen examples of exactly 7 TDs in 7 games ( I may have missed one)

And these stats prove he's good?
TopicSo NFL higher ups are worried about fan backlash when it comes to Kaepernick
BGleason22
06/07/17 10:29:13 PM
#130
cjsdowg posted...
BGleason22 posted...
What's funny is that the examples you are showing don't even "show" anything, other then a few of his TDs happened in the first half or when the score was close.

There is a common theme though: His team lost.

But hey, you'll always have that racist card to play.


I guess Barry Sanders sucks . I mean the team he was on sucked.


Actually Barry carried his team to their best record of all time and some of the best seasons the franchise has had in it's nearly 80 year history.
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