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BGleason22 06/17/17 1:14:24 AM #52:	lderivedx posted... The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting. I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881271367] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting.</quote> I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/17/17 1:14:30 AM #53:	Didn't read anything in the topic. Just read the question in the Topic Title My only comment is why would anyone care if it goes up or not. If the min goes up, then the price of everything else goes up, so you just end up in the same place. I don't see much of a point to it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/wAAUnKATTU.gif https://i.imgtc.com/ZwLqTeJJAh.gif https://i.imgtc.com/6n83lMG.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:881271371] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>Didn't read anything in the topic. Just read the question in the Topic Title My only comment is why would anyone care if it goes up or not. If the min goes up, then the price of everything else goes up, so you just end up in the same place. I don't see much of a point to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 06/17/17 1:15:51 AM #54:	BGleason22 posted... lderivedx posted... The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting. I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? Yeah, irresponsible trash that has kids or spends money on shit they don't need. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:881271438] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting.</quote> I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling?</quote> Yeah, irresponsible trash that has kids or spends money on shit they don't need.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:16:47 AM #55:	BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want.... With a MINIMUM effort. ..... 40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers Oh. My. God. Do people seriously think this? it's more effort than working part time or casually, are you denying this? Good luck in life. You'll see. That's about all the time this back and forth is worth. I'm doing quite well actually, but whatever. Keep pretending 40 hours a week isnt worth a roof over your head, enough food to live and something to keep you entertained. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881271476] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want.... With a MINIMUM effort. .....</quote> 40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers</quote> Oh. My. God. Do people seriously think this?</quote> it's more effort than working part time or casually, are you denying this?</quote> Good luck in life. You'll see. That's about all the time this back and forth is worth.</quote> I'm doing quite well actually, but whatever. Keep pretending 40 hours a week isnt worth a roof over your head, enough food to live and something to keep you entertained.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 06/17/17 1:20:39 AM #56:	BGleason22 posted... I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? You don't have to sleep? <cite>lderivedx posted [p:881271645] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? </quote> You don't have to sleep?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:20:40 AM #57:	tremain07 posted... BGleason22 posted... lderivedx posted... The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting. I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? Yeah, irresponsible trash that has kids or spends money on shit they don't need. At 84 hours per week and the Department of Labor laws about overtime, wouldn't you say they were at the very least, fairly compensated for their time at work? Hell, if you worked 84 hours in a week even at min wage you'd be making $40,000 a year..... with kids we're talking about a 2 income family, so $80,000 a year. I'm pretty sure you'd survive. <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881271646] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>The entire "people should spend 50% of their time at the service of their employers but they still don't deserve a reasonably comfortable standard of living" group is completely disgusting.</quote> I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling?</quote> Yeah, irresponsible trash that has kids or spends money on shit they don't need.</quote> At 84 hours per week and the Department of Labor laws about overtime, wouldn't you say they were at the very least, fairly compensated for their time at work? Hell, if you worked 84 hours in a week even at min wage you'd be making $40,000 a year..... with kids we're talking about a 2 income family, so $80,000 a year. I'm pretty sure you'd survive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:21:22 AM #58:	lderivedx posted... BGleason22 posted... I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? You don't have to sleep? Person I quoted said they give their employers 50% of their time. Thanks for slowly picking up the point. <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881271677] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd expect to live fairly comfortably if I were to work 84 hours a week. Is there a group of people doing this that are struggling? </quote> You don't have to sleep?</quote> Person I quoted said they give their employers 50% of their time. Thanks for slowly picking up the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:23:03 AM #59:	Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want.... With a MINIMUM effort. ..... 40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers Oh. My. God. Do people seriously think this? it's more effort than working part time or casually, are you denying this? Good luck in life. You'll see. That's about all the time this back and forth is worth. I'm doing quite well actually, but whatever. Keep pretending 40 hours a week isnt worth a roof over your head, enough food to live and something to keep you entertained. at an entry level job? Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society? <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881271738] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>In one sentence you say people should be able to work 40 hours and pay their bills, in the next you say they should also have spare money to buy things they want.... With a MINIMUM effort. .....</quote> 40 hours a week is above minimum effort, even if they are flipping burgers</quote> Oh. My. God. Do people seriously think this?</quote> it's more effort than working part time or casually, are you denying this?</quote> Good luck in life. You'll see. That's about all the time this back and forth is worth.</quote> I'm doing quite well actually, but whatever. Keep pretending 40 hours a week isnt worth a roof over your head, enough food to live and something to keep you entertained.</quote> at an entry level job? Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 06/17/17 1:25:47 AM #60:	If minimum wage guarantees you a comfortable living along with a few luxuries like entertainment, then what do people like me making >$30 an hour salary equivalent deserve? A Ferrari? A mansion? --- https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/35939727.jpg <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:881271850] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>If minimum wage guarantees you a comfortable living along with a few luxuries like entertainment, then what do people like me making >$30 an hour salary equivalent deserve? A Ferrari? A mansion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:26:11 AM #61:	BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881271864] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:27:05 AM #62:	REMercsChamp posted... If minimum wage guarantees you a comfortable living along with a few luxuries like entertainment, then what do people like me making >$30 an hour salary equivalent deserve? A Ferrari? A mansion? a family? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881271893] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>REMercsChamp posted...</cite> <quote>If minimum wage guarantees you a comfortable living along with a few luxuries like entertainment, then what do people like me making >$30 an hour salary equivalent deserve? A Ferrari? A mansion?</quote> a family?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 06/17/17 1:28:12 AM #63:	BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Yeah, why do people who have a decent standard of living already want to advance their careers? <cite>lderivedx posted [p:881271927] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? </quote> Yeah, why do people who have a decent standard of living already want to advance their careers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/17/17 1:28:39 AM #65:	BGleason22 posted... at an entry level job? Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society? Well someone could want to buy more things or afford a new shiny gadget that is much more expensive than what they could normally afford. Just, because someone can live comfortable and buy a few extra things on the side working full time on a min wage job, doesn't mean they have no longer have any reason to want more money. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881271951] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>at an entry level job? Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society? </quote> Well someone could want to buy more things or afford a new shiny gadget that is much more expensive than what they could normally afford. Just, because someone can live comfortable and buy a few extra things on the side working full time on a min wage job, doesn't mean they have no longer have any reason to want more money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiritlittle 06/17/17 1:29:32 AM #66:	ThyCorndog posted... because the upper classes want to keep the lower classes exactly where they are to continue exploiting them This. This so much. --- Official Raven of the Injustice 2 boards Official Jill Valentine of the Marvel vs Capcom Infinite boards <cite>Spiritlittle posted [p:881271983] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>because the upper classes want to keep the lower classes exactly where they are to continue exploiting them</quote> This. This so much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:35:14 AM #67:	Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881272206] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 06/17/17 1:35:14 AM #68:	Republicans want the poor to stay poor. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage. Republicans believe that if you're not an executive on a board that you shouldn't be able to afford anything. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:881272207] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>Republicans want the poor to stay poor. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage. Republicans believe that if you're not an executive on a board that you shouldn't be able to afford anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/17/17 1:36:14 AM #69:	BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? So you wouldn't take an opportunity to make more money if what you were currently earning was adequate? --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881272243] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> So you wouldn't take an opportunity to make more money if what you were currently earning was adequate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:37:25 AM #70:	BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881272296] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 06/17/17 1:37:25 AM #71:	Spiritlittle posted... ThyCorndog posted... because the upper classes want to keep the lower classes exactly where they are to continue exploiting them This. This so much. sktgamer_13dude posted... Republicans want the poor to stay poor. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage. Republicans believe that if you're not an executive on a board that you shouldn't be able to afford anything. If only those baristas just made a few more dollars per hour, then they could join in with the executive country clubs and dinner parties! It's a conspiracy! lmao, you clowns can't even villainize properly. I already explained how raising the minimum wage was more sinister than leaving it or even lowering it. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:881272297] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spiritlittle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>because the upper classes want to keep the lower classes exactly where they are to continue exploiting them</quote> This. This so much.</quote> <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Republicans want the poor to stay poor. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage. Republicans believe that if you're not an executive on a board that you shouldn't be able to afford anything.</quote> If only those baristas just made a few more dollars per hour, then they could join in with the executive country clubs and dinner parties! It's a conspiracy! lmao, you clowns can't even villainize properly. I already explained how raising the minimum wage was more sinister than leaving it or even lowering it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:39:21 AM #72:	Captain_Qwark posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? a basic, livable income doesn't mean you'll be able to support family, which most people want. That's a pretty good reason I've already stated multiple times this is exactly my stance. MINIMUM wage does not equal = BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? lderivedx posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Yeah, why do people who have a decent standard of living already want to advance their careers? at an entry level job? Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society?> There is the whole quote, so you don't take my words out of context next time. <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881272357] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Captain_Qwark posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> a basic, livable income doesn't mean you'll be able to support family, which most people want. That's a pretty good reason</quote> I've already stated multiple times this is exactly my stance. MINIMUM wage does not equal = <cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> <cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? </quote> Yeah, why do people who have a decent standard of living already want to advance their careers?</quote> at an entry level job? Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? Do you seriously not see how this is EXTREMELY detrimental to society?> There is the whole quote, so you don't take my words out of context next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:41:03 AM #73:	BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? more money? a family? a more meaningful job? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881272435] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> more money? a family? a more meaningful job?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 06/17/17 1:41:17 AM #74:	I guess the only people wanting to advance their careers are those living below a reasonable level of comfort. <cite>lderivedx posted [p:881272447] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>I guess the only people wanting to advance their careers are those living below a reasonable level of comfort.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:41:28 AM #75:	Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do. Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881272451] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do.</quote> Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:48:38 AM #76:	BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do. Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage they are more focused on surviving paycheck to paycheck than improving themselves --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881272735] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do.</quote> Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage</quote> they are more focused on surviving paycheck to paycheck than improving themselves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 1:51:36 AM #77:	i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881272827] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:54:07 AM #78:	Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance? professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career? Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole? greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do. Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage they are more focused on surviving paycheck to paycheck than improving themselves Does someone surviving paycheck to paycheck have more or less incentive to improve their financial situation compared to someone living comfortably? <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881272921] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote> Tell me, what would motivate ANYONE to advance?</quote> professional development? entry level doesnt mean mcdonalds. it means something like helpdesk, book keeping, etc. tell me, why wouldnt someone be motivated to advance their career?</quote> Would the motivation to advance in a profession be greater or less if the entry level position afforded you the ability to pay your mortgage, pay your bills, afford entertainment? Would that be better or worse for society as a whole?</quote> greater because they would want more money and more things. do you think more motivated people would be better for the economy? I do.</quote> Explain why that isn't the case now. Your Logic states it should be even greater with a lower min wage</quote> they are more focused on surviving paycheck to paycheck than improving themselves</quote> Does someone surviving paycheck to paycheck have more or less incentive to improve their financial situation compared to someone living comfortably?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/17/17 1:54:07 AM #79:	Rika_Furude posted... i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881272922] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote> He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 06/17/17 1:54:25 AM #80:	Republicans believe raising minimum wages will make them poor and the poor rich. When in actuality, it'll make the poor able to actually afford to live and it'll make them (the rich Republicans who hate raising minimum wage) have to wait 2 years to buy their private jet instead of 1 year. Boo fucking hoo. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:881272938] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>Republicans believe raising minimum wages will make them poor and the poor rich. When in actuality, it'll make the poor able to actually afford to live and it'll make them (the rich Republicans who hate raising minimum wage) have to wait 2 years to buy their private jet instead of 1 year. Boo fucking hoo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/17/17 1:55:40 AM #81:	sktgamer_13dude posted... Republicans believe raising minimum wages will make them poor and the poor rich. When in actuality, it'll make the poor able to actually afford to live and it'll make them (the rich Republicans who hate raising minimum wage) have to wait 2 years to buy their private jet instead of 1 year. Boo fucking hoo. Hell it might even make business owners make more money as people will be afford to buy things that they couldn't before. But Republicans aren't well known for their long term thinking. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881272980] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Republicans believe raising minimum wages will make them poor and the poor rich. When in actuality, it'll make the poor able to actually afford to live and it'll make them (the rich Republicans who hate raising minimum wage) have to wait 2 years to buy their private jet instead of 1 year. Boo fucking hoo.</quote> Hell it might even make business owners make more money as people will be afford to buy things that they couldn't before. But Republicans aren't well known for their long term thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 06/17/17 1:57:30 AM #82:	Tmaster148 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... Republicans believe raising minimum wages will make them poor and the poor rich. When in actuality, it'll make the poor able to actually afford to live and it'll make them (the rich Republicans who hate raising minimum wage) have to wait 2 years to buy their private jet instead of 1 year. Boo fucking hoo. Hell it might even make business owners make more money as people will be afford to buy things that they couldn't before. But Republicans aren't well known for their long term thinking. Holy shit, the stupid is spreading. Not only do we have one person who actually literally unironically believes that republicans all have islands and private jets (seriously, LMFAO how fucking stupid can you be), but we have a second person actually chiming in with more faux economics bullshit. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:881273031] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>Republicans believe raising minimum wages will make them poor and the poor rich. When in actuality, it'll make the poor able to actually afford to live and it'll make them (the rich Republicans who hate raising minimum wage) have to wait 2 years to buy their private jet instead of 1 year. Boo fucking hoo.</quote> Hell it might even make business owners make more money as people will be afford to buy things that they couldn't before. But Republicans aren't well known for their long term thinking.</quote> Holy shit, the stupid is spreading. Not only do we have one person who actually literally unironically believes that republicans all have islands and private jets (seriously, LMFAO how fucking stupid can you be), but we have a second person actually chiming in with more faux economics bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:58:39 AM #83:	Rika_Furude posted... i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? I've stated multiple times that people SHOULD be able to SURVIVE on min wage. I have never said that people should not be able to survive, so why are you putting words in my mouth? Edit - Not trolling Rika - I'm trying to get you to understand the extreme flaw in your own logic, by questioning it and making you think about it <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881273069] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote> I've stated multiple times that people SHOULD be able to SURVIVE on min wage. I have never said that people should not be able to survive, so why are you putting words in my mouth? Edit - Not trolling Rika - I'm trying to get you to understand the extreme flaw in your own logic, by questioning it and making you think about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 1:59:55 AM #84:	Tmaster148 posted... Rika_Furude posted... i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already. Are you serious? I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably. If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM. Do you understand what that word means? <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881273117] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote> He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already.</quote> Are you serious? I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably. If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM. Do you understand what that word means?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 2:05:17 AM #85:	BGleason22 posted... Tmaster148 posted... Rika_Furude posted... i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already. Are you serious? I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably. If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM. Do you understand what that word means? minimum wage doesnt imply minimum effort, troll you still never answered my question Rika_Furude posted... i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881273286] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote> He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already.</quote> Are you serious? I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably. If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM. Do you understand what that word means?</quote> minimum wage doesnt imply minimum effort, troll you still never answered my question <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/17/17 2:07:20 AM #86:	BGleason22 posted... Tmaster148 posted... Rika_Furude posted... i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else? He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already. Are you serious? I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably. If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM. Do you understand what that word means? You didn't answer the question. Also Min Wage != Min Effort. A lot of people earning min wage jobs might be a harder working then you as many of them work 2+ jobs due to most min wage jobs being part time work(I.E. Wal-Mart and McDonald's). But I guess you would rather work full time at McDonald's then working a higher paying job if the McDonald's job could pay for your basic living and some extra. Annihilated posted... Holy shit, the stupid is spreading. Not only do we have one person who actually literally unironically believes that republicans all have islands and private jets (seriously, LMFAO how fucking stupid can you be), but we have a second person actually chiming in with more faux economics bullshit. Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Demand will only increase if people have money to buy things. If they start buying things a company might need to hire more employees to match new demand thus hiring more people. If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy stuff. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881273353] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i think bgi is trolling or something. why would only people currently unable to survive on their income be motivated to improve themselves, not anyone else?</quote> He also never answered my question if he would take an opportunity to make more money if he was currently was making enough already.</quote> Are you serious? I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should every single person. Which is why I believe MINIMUM wage should not afford a single person to afford to live comfortably. If you give MINIMUM effort, you should be paid MINIMUM wage, and survive on MINIMUM. Do you understand what that word means?</quote> You didn't answer the question. Also Min Wage != Min Effort. A lot of people earning min wage jobs might be a harder working then you as many of them work 2+ jobs due to most min wage jobs being part time work(I.E. Wal-Mart and McDonald's). But I guess you would rather work full time at McDonald's then working a higher paying job if the McDonald's job could pay for your basic living and some extra. <cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote>Holy shit, the stupid is spreading. Not only do we have one person who actually literally unironically believes that republicans all have islands and private jets (seriously, LMFAO how fucking stupid can you be), but we have a second person actually chiming in with more faux economics bullshit.</quote> Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Demand will only increase if people have money to buy things. If they start buying things a company might need to hire more employees to match new demand thus hiring more people. If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 06/17/17 2:09:39 AM #87:	Tmaster148 posted... Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Demand will only increase if people have money to buy things. If they start buying things a company might need to hire more employees to match new demand thus hiring more people. If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy stuff. Then you CREATE jobs instead of taking them away. What's the point in making more per hour if you make the same every week because you got your hours cut or got laid off and have to compete with even more people for even fewer jobs? <cite>Annihilated posted [p:881273435] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Demand will only increase if people have money to buy things. If they start buying things a company might need to hire more employees to match new demand thus hiring more people. If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy stuff.</quote> Then you CREATE jobs instead of taking them away. What's the point in making more per hour if you make the same every week because you got your hours cut or got laid off and have to compete with even more people for even fewer jobs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/17/17 2:15:44 AM #88:	Annihilated posted... Tmaster148 posted... Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Demand will only increase if people have money to buy things. If they start buying things a company might need to hire more employees to match new demand thus hiring more people. If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy stuff. Then you CREATE jobs instead of taking them away. What's the point in making more per hour if you make the same every week because you got your hours cut or got laid off and have to compete with even more people for even fewer jobs? You can't create jobs out of thin air. If there's no demand for that job, you will only get laid off anyways and we're back where we started. If you want to create new jobs, you to create a demand for the job. You create a demand by people spending money. People can spend more money if they make more money. Raising min wage won't cause people to lose their jobs unless the increase is too high. Cut hours is a slightly different problem and there really isn't a way to tell if raising min wage will cause people to lose hours considering min wage has increased before back in 2009 and people didn't end up losing hours AFAIK. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881273601] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Annihilated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Demand will only increase if people have money to buy things. If they start buying things a company might need to hire more employees to match new demand thus hiring more people. If you want a good economy, people need to be able to buy stuff.</quote> Then you CREATE jobs instead of taking them away. What's the point in making more per hour if you make the same every week because you got your hours cut or got laid off and have to compete with even more people for even fewer jobs?</quote> You can't create jobs out of thin air. If there's no demand for that job, you will only get laid off anyways and we're back where we started. If you want to create new jobs, you to create a demand for the job. You create a demand by people spending money. People can spend more money if they make more money. Raising min wage won't cause people to lose their jobs unless the increase is too high. Cut hours is a slightly different problem and there really isn't a way to tell if raising min wage will cause people to lose hours considering min wage has increased before back in 2009 and people didn't end up losing hours AFAIK.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 2:16:25 AM #89:	FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage. Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases. System works. Thanks for proving the point. .Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop. Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem? <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881273622] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage. Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases. System works. Thanks for proving the point. <quote>.Actually it's pretty simply. If people don't have money to buy things demand for things will fall. As demand falls companies will have to offset costs by laying people off or cutting salaries/hours. Which is a feedback loop.</quote> Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 2:21:08 AM #90:	Rika_Furude posted... theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment Reminder. This is the point under contention <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881273755] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment </quote> Reminder. This is the point under contention</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 2:23:55 AM #91:	BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment Reminder. This is the point under contention and i'm not wrong --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881273836] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment </quote> Reminder. This is the point under contention</quote> and i'm not wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 2:28:36 AM #92:	Rika_Furude posted... BGleason22 posted... Rika_Furude posted... theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment Reminder. This is the point under contention and i'm not wrong Fact = a thing that is indisputably the case. Opinion = a view or judgment formed about something theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment Rika_Furude posted... and i'm not wrong Hmmmmm...... <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881273955] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment </quote> Reminder. This is the point under contention</quote> and i'm not wrong</quote> Fact = a thing that is indisputably the case. Opinion = a view or judgment formed about something <quote>theres still the fact that minimum wage should be enough for 1 person to survive on given full time hours of work, along with some comforts like entertainment </quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>and i'm not wrong</quote> Hmmmmm......</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
donkeyjack 06/17/17 2:28:38 AM #93:	It messes the economy up and prevents 10 to 17 years old kids to get jobs. It's simple as that. --- Your style is fake snake, well-dramatize/You might as well be a singer but ain't harmonize (Harmin' Nas) http://imgur.com/tyElXOs http://imgur.com/Mxpx3aN <cite>donkeyjack posted [p:881273958] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>It messes the economy up and prevents 10 to 17 years old kids to get jobs. It's simple as that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 2:32:53 AM #94:	donkeyjack posted... It messes the economy up and prevents 10 to 17 years old kids to get jobs. It's simple as that. why doesnt it happen in any other country where the minimum wage is livable? --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881274067] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>donkeyjack posted...</cite> <quote>It messes the economy up and prevents 10 to 17 years old kids to get jobs. It's simple as that.</quote> why doesnt it happen in any other country where the minimum wage is livable?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 06/17/17 2:33:57 AM #95:	BGleason22 posted... FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage. Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases. System works. Thanks for proving the point. No point was really proven as pay doesn't correlate how hard a job is, just the value of the job. BGleason22 posted... Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem? And unemployment doesn't always factor people not looking for work. DOW is at record highs largely due to promises made by the current president that are favorable to businesses. Stock Markets are largely an indicator to the profits of companies and companies can make better profits without selling more goods or services. Plus wages have been stagnated for a while now. Poor and Middle class workers should actually be being paid more than they currently are and if this continues we will face another depression as a super poor class and a super wealthly class does not create a good economy. Anyways since you haven't answered my question about whether or not you would take a better paying job over a full time job at McDonald's if the job at McDonald's was enough to pay for a basic standard of living + some extra I have no reason to continue this discussion. You believe that people being paid min wage aren't hard workers and don't deserve to earn a decent standard of living, because you feel threaten by those min wage workers earning more money. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:881274094] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage. Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases. System works. Thanks for proving the point.</quote> No point was really proven as pay doesn't correlate how hard a job is, just the value of the job. <cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem?</quote> And unemployment doesn't always factor people not looking for work. DOW is at record highs largely due to promises made by the current president that are favorable to businesses. Stock Markets are largely an indicator to the profits of companies and companies can make better profits without selling more goods or services. Plus wages have been stagnated for a while now. Poor and Middle class workers should actually be being paid more than they currently are and if this continues we will face another depression as a super poor class and a super wealthly class does not create a good economy. Anyways since you haven't answered my question about whether or not you would take a better paying job over a full time job at McDonald's if the job at McDonald's was enough to pay for a basic standard of living + some extra I have no reason to continue this discussion. You believe that people being paid min wage aren't hard workers and don't deserve to earn a decent standard of living, because you feel threaten by those min wage workers earning more money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 2:47:36 AM #96:	Tmaster148 posted... BGleason22 posted... FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage. Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases. System works. Thanks for proving the point. No point was really proven as pay doesn't correlate how hard a job is, just the value of the job. BGleason22 posted... Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem? And unemployment doesn't always factor people not looking for work. DOW is at record highs largely due to promises made by the current president that are favorable to businesses. Stock Markets are largely an indicator to the profits of companies and companies can make better profits without selling more goods or services. Plus wages have been stagnated for a while now. Poor and Middle class workers should actually be being paid more than they currently are and if this continues we will face another depression as a super poor class and a super wealthly class does not create a good economy. Anyways since you haven't answered my question about whether or not you would take a better paying job over a full time job at McDonald's if the job at McDonald's was enough to pay for a basic standard of living + some extra I have no reason to continue this discussion. You believe that people being paid min wage aren't hard workers and don't deserve to earn a decent standard of living, because you feel threaten by those min wage workers earning more money. I have answered your question. I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should anyone. People that are working MIN wage jobs, for a length of time that they expect to be able to survive on those wages, aren't those hard workers. If they were, like we've already agreed on, they'd get promoted and get better wages. I've also stated, I think 5 times now, that I think MIN wage should be increased. And why is it McDonalds? Shouldn't your example be a job that currently pays $15 (if that's the magic dollar amount that everyone agrees on is fair, if not $15, insert the number you think is fair) Remember, if you increase min wage, you increase all wages across all industries. <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881274489] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>FYI Tmaster - McDonalds and Walmart don't pay minimum wage. Hard workers earn promotions. Promotions = pay increases. System works. Thanks for proving the point.</quote> No point was really proven as pay doesn't correlate how hard a job is, just the value of the job. <cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote>Actual unemployment is at an all time low. The DOW is at record highs. Remind me, where in the supply-demand spectrum lies the current problem?</quote> And unemployment doesn't always factor people not looking for work. DOW is at record highs largely due to promises made by the current president that are favorable to businesses. Stock Markets are largely an indicator to the profits of companies and companies can make better profits without selling more goods or services. Plus wages have been stagnated for a while now. Poor and Middle class workers should actually be being paid more than they currently are and if this continues we will face another depression as a super poor class and a super wealthly class does not create a good economy. Anyways since you haven't answered my question about whether or not you would take a better paying job over a full time job at McDonald's if the job at McDonald's was enough to pay for a basic standard of living + some extra I have no reason to continue this discussion. You believe that people being paid min wage aren't hard workers and don't deserve to earn a decent standard of living, because you feel threaten by those min wage workers earning more money.</quote> I have answered your question. I expect to be compensated based on my effort. As should anyone. People that are working MIN wage jobs, for a length of time that they expect to be able to survive on those wages, aren't those hard workers. If they were, like we've already agreed on, they'd get promoted and get better wages. I've also stated, I think 5 times now, that I think MIN wage should be increased. And why is it McDonalds? Shouldn't your example be a job that currently pays $15 (if that's the magic dollar amount that everyone agrees on is fair, if not $15, insert the number you think is fair) Remember, if you increase min wage, you increase all wages across all industries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 06/17/17 2:49:03 AM #97:	>wonders why American min wage is low >complains about high Australian prices wew --- https://i.imgtc.com/C6jP02v.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/UAGNJFv.gif https://i.imgtc.com/cBTnWgf.png https://i.imgtc.com/wdjM3F8.png <cite>FL81 posted [p:881274531] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>>wonders why American min wage is low >complains about high Australian prices wew</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 06/17/17 2:52:35 AM #98:	I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:881274634] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote>I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 2:54:35 AM #99:	FL81 posted... >wonders why American min wage is low >complains about high Australian prices wew because its literal gouging, but logic is alien to you. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881274683] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>FL81 posted...</cite> <quote>>wonders why American min wage is low >complains about high Australian prices wew</quote> because its literal gouging, but logic is alien to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BGleason22 06/17/17 3:04:53 AM #100:	Sativa_Rose posted... I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work. This is exactly what I think a lot of people don't understand. <cite>BGleason22 posted [p:881274951] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work.</quote> This is exactly what I think a lot of people don't understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/17/17 3:10:59 AM #101:	BGleason22 posted... Sativa_Rose posted... I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work. This is exactly what I think a lot of people don't understand. If no job exists, of course nobody will be hired. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881275112] in why dont a... [t:75470850]...</cite> <quote><cite>BGleason22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote> I'd rather have the difference be made up by the government. That way you don't have the issue of people not being able to find work because their labor is worth less than the minimum wage. You won't get hired at $15/hr if an employer cannot find a way to make more than $15/hr out of your work.</quote> This is exactly what I think a lot of people don't understand.</quote> If no job exists, of course nobody will be hired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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