Lurker > 1337toothbrush

Why is this still even a debate? Dead Palestinians in the ME < dead Palestinians/lgbtq/poc/women in America.

It's selfish, but last I checked, this was a mostly American board. And once again, you had your chance to remove Biden in the primaries.

People absolutely have been bringing up all of this, and the answer every time is BUT GENOCIDE.
Because they dont care about LGBTQ+ lives, they dont care about Ukraine, they dont care about reproductive rights, they dont care about climate change, and to be perfectly honest, they dont care about Palestine. They care about justifying their own laziness and apathy.

Have you learned nothing from last 10 years? The tea party took over Republican Party by being the reliable voters primary challengers fought over. Thats the strategy for taking over the party.

Wait. Why do we all agree on voting for Democrats every single time? I thought that teaches Democrats bad lessons and actually accelerates the GOP fascist takeover?

If that's not true, then I was right the entire time and there is no point to disagreeing with me.

And no shit we have to do more than vote. Doesn't change the fact that we need to vote.

The Democrats aren't the ones threatening us! I'm fucking alarmed by how unalarmed the Dems are about this election! Project 2025 should be getting posted all over the place to highlight how dire things are! And that isn't fucking happening for some reason!

But at least you have proven you are another fake leftist who views the very real and imminent threat of the GOP as Democrat fearmongering.

Describe how the Democrats losing would get us closer to ending the GOP.

I love how no one is considering the large number of pro-Israel voters who would turn on Biden if Biden flipped on this issue.

It's not like ever Democrat voter is on one side of this issue

I think you're underestimating just how popular israel is with Americans. Obviously people like us understand that what's happening in Gaza is genocidal, But most religious folk, especially the religious right, see Israel as some bastion of holy land. They, unfortunately, don't really give a fuck what's happening in Gaza because they consider Israel's autonomy above everything else.

Biden would lose more support from them than support he would gain from preventing what's happening in Palestine. At least, that's how it reads to me.

I certainly wish I was wrong, but I don't think I am.

Ninja'd :/

As believable as the claim is, you really might wanna find a more trustworthy source for it.

It's an election year, not voting and social unrest protest camping are the only options to scare Biden into sanctioning Isreal. We get it, you've been heard loud and clear. Sanctioning Isreal might also carry a worse effect as far as politics at home and how our enemies abroad respond. But losing this game of chicken to a second Trump term and all the horror that a project 2025 brings with it seems extremely foolhardy.

And we have agency and need to vote against the GOP because it's better for all us, not because of who or what Biden is.

Yes you people are. Saying to abstain from voting to put pressure on Biden means you are complicit with what Trump wants for Palestine, and women and minorities in America. Calling it a false premise is spreading misinformation

That isnt what I asked

more vegetables and fish/seafood. so delicious.

By eating small amounts. Also rice is considered a main dish in Japan. A small cup of rice is your dinner. In America it's a freebie they give you alongside your quart of chicken teriyaki carry out.

Rice is not very healthy, I stay away from it.

that is not an answer

that is you unable to answer

So you can answer an easy question about how things will be if he is the president right?

Your question is bullshit. No one thinks trump would do better, which is why they're pressuring biden to do better

So if Trump is not better for Palestine, why do you defend a Trump supporter for refusing to answer this question?

He and you refuse to answer because I believe you want Trump

Your question is bullshit. No one thinks trump would do better, which is why they're pressuring biden to do better

So you are committed to trolling.

so 1337 got 2 answers to his question

will he answer this?

I have no idea. Depends on the country that has been doing the genocide for decades.

He doesn't have to, but if he's still better than the GOP, we really don't have a choice but to vote for him and deal with it.

You have no answer?

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine that they have to vote for him? Biden has to earn my vote isnt a good enough reason to support Trump by not voting Biden

Remember all those stories about car thefts (especially Kia Boys) and on a related note, retail theft?
How the glib left wing response was, "don't u have insurance, bro?"

Well, guess what happens when a shit load more people start making insurance claims!

And yeah, in the last 2 years my insurance has gone up 70% despite no accidents or claims. And because I have a Hyundai, I might not even be able to change insurance, b/c apparently a lot of them are refusing to cover them for new customers. Hurray!

Republicans didn't actually mean that, and if they did, who cares, it'd never happen anyway, but let's get back to the evil demonrats!

lmfao, anything to defend Republicans, as per usual.

You mean that other generations had kids, so their income per household would just be smaller?

Not really. Republicans have openly flouted just nuking gaza.

The point is that Biden and Trump is that

Replubcians ads Hard line pro Israel. They do not care about anything in the Middle East.

Where as Dems softly support Israel. But they do listen to criticism about Israel and do believe in two state land policy.

Remember Bibi wants replubcian to win because there will be no criticism towards from the USA.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/06f5a7bd.jpg

You haven't explained how it was undemocratic. Did the DNC overturn ballots? Did they disallow Bernie to be on the ballot?

Seems like it would be a lot more productive to try and focus on fixing it in 2024 instead of 2016.

This isn't the gotcha you thought it was

Eh, idk about this. Trump literally came out and told Israel to finish them off already. I think if he was president, things would be a little more agressive

I remember when I went to vote for Bernie at my primary but a group of DNC thugs beat me up and forced me to vote for Biden

So that's how they are at accepting loss.

Thank you.

That's not answering the question I asked, old boy.

And Bernie Bros?

How about them when it comes to accepting loss?

Because you're literally threatening us with the prospect of a Trump presidency.

I mean your actual strategy here is "do this or trump wins and we all suffer"

Easily. Gaza ranks low on the concerns of the citizens of the US

Groovy toovy, now are you ready to join everyone in 2024?