Current Events > Some1 turned the Biden Palestine vote argument into the trolley problem 4 visual

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"Generally good policies" LOL. Biden failed to remove much of Trump's terrible foreign policy decisions like scrapping the Iran nuclear deal, trade war with China, and moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. And now he is trying to ban Tiktok while still having an account on it.

Care to elaborate? Or is this a one and done post.

Care to elaborate? Or is this a one and done post.

I'm sorry. I couldn't pull that switch. Either way, I kill somebody.

Care to elaborate? Or is this a one and done post.

It seems as if this picture , a joke cartoon meme nonetheless downplays just the horrible situation people find themselves in. So, I would like to ask, with stuff like the below happening. What specifically would Trump do differently. If right now Civilians are being targeted and nothing is being done, and we are even attacking people who do say something. What would trump do, besides harsher words to make it worse.

https://twitter.com/EliClifton/status/1784050680170467456

1. Ban muslims from traveling to the USA and applying as refugees (especially Palestinians)
2. Tell Israel to speed it up (he literally did this a week ago)
3. Give Israel more support than just selling them weapons
4. Might actually tell the US army to do drone strikes on Palestine and brag about it; in his term he carried out such operations see below
5. When the Iran thing happened Trump unlike Biden would have told Israel to pour down "fire and fury" and very likely would have gotten involved

He also increased U.S. drone strikes in Africa,[26] and continued the U.S.'s waron terror and campaign against the Islamic State terror organization, including overseeing the death of its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in October 2019.[27] In January 2020, Trump ordered a drone strike in Iraq which assassinated Iranian major general Qasem Soleimani.

On April 6, 2017, in retaliation for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's chemical weapon attack, of sarin, against civilians, Trump authorized a limited cruise missile strike on a Syrian air base. After Russia blocked U.S.-sponsored measures against the Syrian regime at the UN Security Council, the U.S. took unilateral action.[36] The attack drew international support and claims it was justified, citing enforcement of the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).[36][37]

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine that they have to vote for him? Biden has to earn my vote isnt a good enough reason to support Trump by not voting Biden

Why do you people keep trying to shift the conversation? Genocide is wrong. It doesn't matter who is supporting it, supporting genocide is wrong.

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine

You have no answer?

Why does biden have to support genocide? Do you have an answer for that?

He doesn't have to, but if he's still better than the GOP, we really don't have a choice but to vote for him and deal with it.

Alright, so if biden wins the election and trump is a non-factor, when does the genocide end?

I have no idea. Depends on the country that has been doing the genocide for decades.

Why does biden have to support genocide? Do you have an answer for that?

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine

I have no idea. Depends on the country that has been doing the genocide for decades.

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine

That's not good enough. This is genocide we're talking about here.

Depends on the country that has been doing the genocide for decades.

Israel has been genocidal for a long time.

Why now?

Does the US have any influence or leverage over that country?

Things are different this time. Let's not pretend this is just business as usual in Gaza.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70dd38c0.jpg

Picture is already 2 months old, so add a few thousand deaths.

so 1337 got 2 answers to his question

will he answer this?

so 1337 got 2 answers to his question

will he answer this?

I didn't get answers. I got people shrugging their shoulders and thinking genocide is okay because israel has been doing it for decades. Your question is bullshit. No one thinks trump would do better, which is why they're pressuring biden to do better, but people like you insist that he shouldn't have to because trump exists or that israel has been doing this for decades.

Biden can stop lying about Israeli war crimes. Biden can stop unconditionally supplying them with weapons for genocide. None of this is necessary for him to win the election. If anything, he risks losing voters over this.

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine

He and you refuse to answer because I believe you want Trump

Your question is bullshit. No one thinks trump would do better, which is why they're pressuring biden to do better

So you are committed to trolling.

He and you refuse to answer because I believe you want Trump and don't actually care about Palestine.

He shouldn't. Because the question, just like your awful meme in the OP, is based on a false premise. A Trump presidency isn't the only alternative to accepting Biden's stance on Israel.

Biden can stop lying about Israeli war crimes. Biden can stop unconditionally supplying them with weapons for genocide. None of this is necessary for him to win the election. If anything, he risks losing voters over this.

Ignoring that option and framing 'Palestinians die under Biden' and 'more Palestinians die under Trump' as the only options is dishonest, and serves no purpose other than to make Biden's support for genocide sound more acceptable.

Just like endlessly repeating all the horrible consequences of a Trump presidency serves no purpose other than to silence anti-genocide protesters. Threats of a Trump reelection are hollow as long as people refuse to acknowledge the agency Biden has in this matter.

This 100%.

Biden can stop lying about Israeli war crimes. Biden can stop unconditionally supplying them with weapons for genocide. None of this is necessary for him to win the election. If anything, he risks losing voters over this.

He and you refuse to answer because

don't actually care about Palestine.

I refused to answer the question because it's based on a false premise,

So what happens if Biden does all of this, then loses the election because of organizations like AIPAC burying him, along with the still non-zero number of folks in the country who support Israel in some capacity?

I've never said Trump winning would be preferable, nor that he would be better for Palestine.

You think Trump is better for Palestine?

So has there been any genuine, non-troll justification as to why these people think Trump winning will result in such a better outcome for Palestine

So what will trump do that's better than biden?

So what will trump do that's better than biden?

Biden's hawkish foreign policy decisions are on public record:

Refusing to rejoin the Iran nuclear deal:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/21/hawks-in-iran-and-israel-agree-bidens-bid-to-salvage-nuclear-deal-must-not-succeed

Recognising the unpopular Guaido as the leader of Venezuela despite his unpopularity, and refusing to negotiate with Maduro:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-venezuela/u-s-reaffirms-support-for-venezuelas-guaido-sees-no-talks-with-maduro-idUSKBN2A33AU

Refusal to sanction the Saudi crown prince in his role in the Khashoggi murder:

https://static.theintercept.com/amp/biden-balks-at-sanctions-on-saudi-crown-prince-after-release-of-report-on-killing-of-jamal-khashoggi.html

Bypassing congress to sell more weapons to Israel:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/29/politics/biden-congress-israel-military-aid/index.html

Reopening detention centres for migrant children:

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/immigration-unaccompanied-migrant-children-facility-us-mexico-border-texas/

Escalating the trade war against China:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2022/12/25/biden-escalates-the-economic-war-with-china/?sh=58d6ec6012f3

Refer to the post above you.