Current Events > Does Biden bear any responsibility for people not wanting to vote for him?

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DrizztLink posted...

I'm telling you, he's Uncle Rico, lost in the glory days (where he lost).

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/41e93ccf.png

The glory days of Bernie losing every primary

SaikyoStyle posted...

Try to stay on topic.

The topic that was derailed by people who haven't accepted the result of the 2016 dem primary????

Hell yeah! I'm down to vote for Bernie!

My vote is earned, not owed. Fuck the rest.

Toothbrush once called me a Putin supporter because I said we actually vote in primary elections and Bernie didnt get enough votes

-ZIO- posted...

Hell yeah! I'm down to vote for Bernie!

My vote is earned, not owed. Fuck the rest.

So stunning, so brave

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Im being told im over confident and smug by a dude who STILL BELIEVES IN 2016 BERNIE IN 2024

Am in the twilight zone? Theres no way this is an actual conversation

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/may/29/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-says-he-polls-better-against-donald/

Sorry you can't handle the facts. I was merely responding to Shadow_Don saying that hillary had more primary votes than bernie and then you decided to jump in with your "OMG BERNIE BROS!!!!!" shtick.

Shadow_Don posted...

The topic that was derailed by people who haven't accepted the result of the 2016 dem primary????

That was just toothbrush though.

1337toothbrush posted...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/may/29/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-says-he-polls-better-against-donald/

Sorry you can't handle the facts. I was merely responding to Shadow_Don saying that hillary had more primary votes than bernie and then you decided to jump in with your "OMG BERNIE BROS!!!!!" shtick.

you want facts?

Bernie lost. Both times. In the Primaries.

Wasnt even popular enough to make it to the general. You refuse to accept this fact.

If the reason you aren't voting for Biden is "because Gaza," I have bad news for you

1337toothbrush posted...

Sorry you can't handle the facts. I was merely responding to Shadow_Don saying that hillary had more primary votes

Is it a fact that Hillary had more primary votes than Bernie?

Thats a yes. Please don't meltdown again.

Dathrowed1 posted...

If the reason you aren't voting for Biden is "because Gaza," I have bad news for you

With their sort if it wasnt that it would just be some other excuse.

-ZIO- posted...

Hell yeah! I'm down to vote for Bernie!

My vote is earned, not owed. Fuck the rest.

so what did Bernie accomplish this year?

Dathrowed1 posted...

If the reason you aren't voting for Biden is "because Gaza," I have bad news for you

The truth is I'm not voting for Biden "because Gaza". But phrased differently. And alternatively.

Shadow_Don posted...

Is it a fact that Hillary had more primary votes than Bernie?

Thats a yes. Please don't meltdown again.

I cant imagine tying my identity to a candidate who was never popular enough to make it out of the primaries

The dude will claim anything else other than Bernie not getting enough votes is the reason he never won

I dont really understand the religious fervor with which the Democratic primary process is being defended.

Shadow_Don posted...

Yea? Wanna know who got fucking smoked in those states in the 2020 dem primary or was that rigged too?

There are very valid criticisms of the 2020 Bernie campaign.

But this retort is you being new to politics and not understanding the bandwagon effect stage of primaries while being obsessed with owning the left.

SaikyoStyle posted...

I dont really understand the religious fervor with which the Democratic primary process is being defended.

is it religious fervor to say Bernie did not get enough votes

Thats literally just the way it works

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

I cant imagine tying my identity to a candidate who was never popular enough to make it out of the primaries

The dude will claim anything else other than Bernie not getting enough votes is the reason he never won

I dont even get it. I voted for him twice and was crushed both times.

Then I was like "ok that sucks but I dont want women, lgbt people, and immigrants to suffer so might as well take an hour out my day to vote"

They can't even do that. They won't even tell us if they will actually do anything in 2025 if trump wins. Its pathetic.

Imagine if the general election was run like party primaries. A private company controls the process and the states vote on different dates, meaning that the race would often be decided before many states even get to vote. Utterly ridiculous.

Krojen posted...

There are very valid criticisms of the 2020 Bernie campaign.

But this retort is you being new to politics and not understanding the bandwagon effect stage of primaries while being obsessed with owning the left.

I didnt know that Biden was the only one allowed to build a coalition with other candidates and that Bernie was banned from doing that. Was that in the dnc rulebook?

1337toothbrush posted...

Imagine if the general election was run like party primaries. A private company controls the process and the states vote on different dates, meaning that the race would often be decided before many states even get to vote. Utterly ridiculous.

Groovy toovy, now are you ready to join everyone in 2024?

1337toothbrush posted...

Imagine if the general election was run like party primaries. A private company controls the process and the states vote on different dates, meaning that the race would often be decided before many states even get to vote. Utterly ridiculous.

I've been on team "every primary on the same day", so at least you're right about one thing

DrizztLink posted...

Groovy toovy, now are you ready to join everyone in 2024?

I love how you and others are ignoring that my first post on this particular subject was in response to someone pointing out that hillary had more primary votes than bernie. Somehow they're not the one stuck in the past. I guess my mistake is responding to people.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

is it religious fervor to say Bernie did not get enough votes

Thats literally just the way it works

Why should I care about the primary results in states that the Democrats are obviously not going to carry in the general election?

SaikyoStyle posted...

With their sort if it wasnt that it would just be some other excuse.

Easily. Gaza ranks low on the concerns of the citizens of the US

SaikyoStyle posted...

Why should I care about the primary results in states that the Democrats are obviously not going to carry in the general election?

It would arguably be the only way for them to have a particular say on the national level, to be fair.

1337toothbrush posted...

I love how you and others are ignoring that my first post on this particular subject was in response to someone pointing out that hillary had more primary votes than bernie. Somehow they're not the one stuck in the past. I guess my mistake is responding to people.

Which was in response to another poster complaining about the 2016 dem primary.

Sorry I triggered you this hard. Try taking a nap and see if that helps before posting again.

Dathrowed1 posted...

Easily. Gaza ranks low on the concerns of the citizens of the US

Yet if biden loses the election then the people who protested his support for genocide would be the ones blamed for trump winning.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yet if biden loses the election then the people who protested his support for genocide would be the ones blamed for trump winning.

when youre not fantasizing about Bernie youre talking about not voting. Why do you do this in every single topic you enter

Shadow_Don posted...

I didnt know that Biden was the only one allowed to build a coalition with other candidates and that Bernie was banned from doing that. Was that in the dnc rulebook?

Thats not the bandwagon effect of primaries at all. Proving my point.

Its primaries held after someones been proclaimed the enviable winner. Something that didnt exist for Biden prior which is why Biden repeatedly got smoked until South Carolina became the first state that MSNBC cared about. You can watch the early mail in ballots change down to the exact minute in these cases.

1337toothbrush posted...

Yet if biden loses the election then the people who protested his support for genocide would be the ones blamed for trump winning.

Because you're literally threatening us with the prospect of a Trump presidency.

I mean your actual strategy here is "do this or trump wins and we all suffer"

Krojen posted...

until South Carolina became the first state that MSNBC cared about

Oh ok my bad

It wasn't a DNC plot against Bernie it was the DNC + MSNBC plot

A conspiracy isnt even required. The process is just fundamentally flawed. Your faith in it is misplaced.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

This different audience being people that arent registered democrats

yes that is absolutely absurd to think bernie would do better among those people

You aren't going to beat Bernie Math.

Shadow_Don posted...

Because you're literally threatening us with the prospect of a Trump presidency.

I mean your actual strategy here is "do this or trump wins and we all suffer"

That's literally the democratic party strategy: "vote for us or trump wins and we all suffer"
and when trump is gone, then just replace "trump" with the name of the next monster of the week and that's the new democratic party strategy.

I'm not threatening anything. I vote for democrats down the ballot every single election and I never tell anyone how to vote. I'm merely pointing out that upsetting voters, ignoring their concerns, insulting them, demanding they vote the way you want them to, shaming them, etc will not win you votes. I'm also pointing out that democrats will blame everyone but themselves for losing.

Toothbrush blocked me lmaoo

Dude tells me i cant handle facts and then folds

1337toothbrush posted...

I'm also pointing out that democrats will blame everyone but themselves for losing.

Nah fuck off. You're pumping out election conspiracies over and over again.

1337toothbrush posted...

I'm also pointing out that democrats will blame everyone but themselves for losing.

And Bernie Bros?

How about them when it comes to accepting loss?

DrizztLink posted...

And Bernie Bros?

How about them when it comes to accepting loss?

No no you see Bernie had the entire known universe and possibly even unknown ones against him so it wasnt his fault

DrizztLink posted...

And Bernie Bros?

How about them when it comes to accepting loss?

I didn't realize the general election was controlled by a party.

1337toothbrush posted...

I didn't realize the general election was controlled by a party.

That's not answering the question I asked, old boy.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

No no you see Bernie had the entire known universe and possibly even unknown ones against him so it wasnt his fault

I seriously hate it like he should *not get dragged down with these bozos. He told them to vote for Hillary and Biden. He actually knows when to be pragmatic and when to take the W or the L.

Shadow_Don posted...

I seriously hate it like he should get dragged down with these bozos. He told them to vote for Hillary and Biden. He actually knows when to be pragmatic and when to take the W or the L.

Yeah ive got no problem with Bernie. He bowed out when his time was done, and urged people to vote for the nominees.

If only his base felt the same way

DrizztLink posted...

That's not answering the question I asked, old boy.

It is, but I guess it wasn't straightforward enough for you. Pointing out that bernie lost because of the democrat-controlled party primary process is like pointing out that hillary lost because of the electoral college. It has nothing to do with "accepting loss", it's merely pointing out that the system is undemocratic.

So that's how they are at accepting loss.

Thank you.

1337toothbrush posted...

It is, but I guess it wasn't straightforward enough for you. Pointing out that bernie lost because of the democrat-controlled party primary process is like pointing out that hillary lost because of the electoral college. It has nothing to do with "accepting loss", it's merely pointing out that the system is undemocratic.

I remember when I went to vote for Bernie at my primary but a group of DNC thugs beat me up and forced me to vote for Biden

1337toothbrush posted...

It is, but I guess it wasn't straightforward enough for you. Pointing out that bernie lost because of the democrat-controlled party primary process is like pointing out that hillary lost because of the electoral college. It has nothing to do with "accepting loss", it's merely pointing out that the system is undemocratic.

Hillary got more votes than both Bernie and trump

See the difference?

Unironically, if the dnc put up Bernie over Hillary after the primary that would actually have been more like the electoral college.

DrizztLink posted...

So that's how they are at accepting loss.

Thank you.

I accepted that the system has been lost to corruption a long time ago. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to point it out. It doesn't seem like you care about any of that and you just want to score a "gotcha" on the internet. Enjoy, I guess?

Euripides posted...

I remember when I went to vote for Bernie at my primary but a group of DNC thugs beat me up and forced me to vote for Biden

I was so disappointed when i tried to vote Bernie but the DNC controlled my hands and made me pick Hillary

Euripides posted...

I remember when I went to vote for Bernie at my primary but a group of DNC thugs beat me up and forced me to vote for Biden

Did you also get beat up by electoral college thugs when you went to vote for hillary in the general?