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TopicDeSantis falsely claims to send 'weapons and ammunition' to Israel
brestugo
10/27/23 4:06:28 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
I can think of precious few things he could do that would actually hurt him among his base. Getting caught in a lie over sending weapons to wartime Israel might just be one of them.

Just saying he sent humanitarian aid to them wasn't honorable enough, I guess. Although, according to Israel's CG, it really wasn't even that.

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TopicStatue at the center of deadly 'Unite the Right' rally is melted down
brestugo
10/27/23 3:58:29 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/lee-statue-charlottesville-melt-aac4792236a680465776c0f2788343cd

A statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee that was a focal point of a deadly white nationalist protest in 2017 has been melted down and will be repurposed into new works of art.

The Jefferson School African American Heritage Center, a Charlottesville-based Black history museum, said Thursday that the statue had been destroyed.

The Charlottesville City Council voted in 2021 to donate the statue to the heritage center, after it proposed a Swords into Plowshares project that would melt the statue and repurpose it into public art that expresses the Citys values of inclusivity and racial justice, according to the proposal submitted to the city.

The statue was taken down in 2021 after years of debate and delay.

Protests over the plan to remove the statue morphed into the violent Unite the Right rally in 2017. It was during that rally that James Alex Fields Jr., an avowed Hitler admirer, intentionally drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injuring 19 others. Fields is serving a life sentence.

Two groups that had sought to preserve the statue sued last year to try to block the city from donating it to the heritage center, but a judge tossed out their case.

At a news conference Thursday, heritage center officials said they now plan to solicit proposals on how to repurpose the statue. The center hopes to pick an artist next year and is conducting a $4 million fundraising campaign.

For now, the bronze from the statue has been molded into ingots stamped with the words SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES, some of which were on display at the news conference.

Our efforts have been not to remove history but bear witness to the truths about our racist pasts and our aspirations for a more equitable future, said Andrea Douglas, director of the heritage center.

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TopicDeSantis falsely claims to send 'weapons and ammunition' to Israel
brestugo
10/27/23 3:41:28 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/27/ron-desantis-sending-weapons-israel-military-fake

Ron DeSantis is receiving pushback from Israeli diplomats, Florida Democrats and the White House after he falsely claimed credit for a gun-running operation to assist Israels military operations in Gaza.

The Florida governor and 2024 presidential hopeful declared on Thursday that he had worked with Israels consul general in Miami to send military equipment, including drones, body armor and helmets.

His office, according to Reuters, said it had worked to get weapons and ammunition to Israel through private parties as part of his high-profile rescue operation. The operation involved sending humanitarian supplies on chartered planes and returning from Israel hundreds of US citizens who wanted to come home following the Hamas attacks.

His boast, however, started to unravel when Maor Elbaz-Starinsky, Israels consul general, told the news agency he had not asked for DeSantiss help, and that the governors involvement was limited to smoothing paperwork requirements for a previously arranged shipment of rifle parts ordered by his government.

I am not aware and would find it very, very bizarre to think that somebody is procuring weapons and sending it to Israel, he said. This is not how we work. And certainly not privately funded.

DeSantis has made hardline support of Israel a prominent part of his flailing campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, pledging to turn away Palestinian refugees if he was in the White House, and expelling pro-Palestinian student groups from Floridas university campuses.

He has called a special session of the Florida legislature for early next month to approve state sanctions on Iranian businesses and interests.

With other presidential contenders, he will attend a donor gathering of the Republican Jewish Coalition in Las Vegas this weekend. On Friday, he will deliver a speech on foreign policy at the Heritage Foundation in Washington DC.

Critics accuse him of acting as if he were president, and operating a de facto foreign policy from the governors mansion in Tallahassee that is not under his purview.

President Biden is the commander in chief of our military, not Ron DeSantis, said Nikki Fried, chair of the Florida Democratic party, in a statement to the Miami Herald.

As a navy veteran, Ron should understand the importance of respecting the chain of command. This is a gross breach of norms and a potential violation of federal laws governing the shipment of weapons.

John Kirby, strategic communications director for the National Security Council, told reporters at the White House on Thursday that he could not be certain DeSantis had checked all the boxes.

It is not illegal for the governor of a state to offer a measure of foreign assistance to another country [but] there are laws and regulations which govern how the export process is handled, he said.

Thats all done through Commerce. I couldnt speak with authority today about whether the governor has checked all those boxes or not.

In a statement to the Guardian, a spokesperson for the Department of Commerce said they could not confirm details of particular transactions, but reminded US exporters seeking to provide support for Israel that appropriate federal authorizations were necessary.

Consistent with the presidents direction, the Bureau of Industry and Security and our interagency partners are working to appropriately expedite applications for assistance to Israel, the spokesperson said.

Elbaz-Starinsky told the Herald that all necessary approvals for the rifle parts requested by Israel had been obtained, but said he was not certain it was DeSantiss office that helped secure them.

It was really the first days of the war, everyone was panicked and stressed, everything was urgent, he told the newspaper.

I approached a few contacts, including the governors office, to get the final approval. It went through all the process. Im not even sure, at the end of the day, which one untangled this thing and made the shipment be approved.

DeSantiss office, meanwhile, has backed away from its initial claim it worked directly with the consul general to help get weapons and ammunition.

Jeremy Redfern, the governors press secretary, told Reuters that DeSantis was contacted by the consul generals office for assistance to clear federal bureaucratic hurdles associated with getting those items to Israel.

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TopicNBA General - We back baby
brestugo
10/27/23 2:39:58 PM
#15
hyperpowder posted...
Saw this coming a mile away. They keep getting older, what planet are people thinking AD and Bron are only going to get better?

You think adding Christian Wood is going to change anything

Bron Bron should have hung it up last year. I would have traded AD for a two piece and a small soda.

Jeanie Buss got married over the summer but I have no idea what Rob Lowe Rob Pelenka was doing.

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TopicSNES & NES games difficulty is ridiculously hard compared to todays games
brestugo
10/27/23 2:30:52 PM
#49
MageSwordo posted...
Yes, when visiting my friend who had an NES, I was surprised to see him throw the controller at the TV after getting game overs.

That was how you wrecked a controller. Nowadays, a hard look wrecks the whole damn thing.

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TopicImagine using a shield in Dark Souls
brestugo
10/27/23 12:44:46 PM
#32
reincarnator07 posted...
I always feel like Bloodborne and onwards is effectively hard coded to destroy you if your only defense is a shield.

The item description for the shield in BB straight up mocks shield users.

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TopicImagine using a shield in Dark Souls
brestugo
10/27/23 12:40:19 PM
#30
HudGard posted...
I use shield in DS3 as my primary weapon

There was a guy who was doing a Caestus run on one of the DkS 3 boards. He stopped posting (or I stopped follwing the thread) eventually, so not sure how far he got. Seemed doable, if quite difficult.

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Topicsaw The Warriors for the first time (i hate 70s movies)
brestugo
10/27/23 12:28:18 PM
#15
archizzy posted...
I really like The Warriors but the movie I really love that came out that same year was The Wanderers. It has an excellent soundtrack, and some things that make me chuckle here and there. I just love it. Its still a gritty, serious movie and has a multitude of gangs but I just think it hits a little more lighter tone to it that works better.


Underrated flick. That football game fight scene has your heart pounding when it's over. Never really explained what the Ducky Boys were about though. Apparently based on a real gang called the Ducky Boys.

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TopicAny watch people here? Wanting to gift a watch to my brother
brestugo
10/27/23 11:55:16 AM
#18
Bass posted...
Nah, I just wear them because I enjoy them. Most watch people know people don't give a shit what you have on your wrist.

One of the few ways a man can accessorize.

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TopicSo Amazon basically robbed me
brestugo
10/27/23 11:16:35 AM
#23
Bass posted...
They robbed me this year too. Bought a Bestbuy gift card from them and emailed it to my dad. He couldn't find it so I picked the option to send him a new code. They never sent the new code and doing that nullified the old code that my dad eventually found.

Support was useless too. First guy didn't do shit and the second lady lied to me saying I'd be refunded. I never was.

Whatever offshore boiler room Amazon contracts with is a borderline criminal operation.

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TopicWill the GOP give everyone their money back if they gut Medicare and SS?
brestugo
10/27/23 10:56:37 AM
#4
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/6/AAcJoVAAE-SG.jpg

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TopicImagine using a shield in Dark Souls
brestugo
10/27/23 10:55:12 AM
#10
Never used them much myself - except against ranged attacks - but no problem with people who like to "sword and board".

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TopicWould you travel ~7 hours one way for a Sportsball game?
brestugo
10/27/23 10:51:56 AM
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Depends on the game and the seats, but yeah.

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TopicHave you learned a musical instrument as an adult?
brestugo
10/27/23 10:49:15 AM
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The Recorder was very demoralizing in HS. I'm no expert, but I think a wind instrument is the worst kind to start a kid on, unless the kid shows some kind of aptitude. Most of us had no fucking clue what we were doing, and I was actually trying to make something happen.

On topic, 'No', but I have considered guitar or a keyboard.

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TopicAny watch people here? Wanting to gift a watch to my brother
brestugo
10/27/23 10:42:40 AM
#11
You can get a very nice Seiko Prospex for less than the price you mentioned. If you feel you must spend a lot of money, there's always Grand Seiko.

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TopicSo Amazon basically robbed me
brestugo
10/27/23 10:32:40 AM
#16
Been having issues with Amazon a lot lately myself. Thinking of closing my account because 1 out of 3 orders is a headache.

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TopicThis is the face of the guy who created pop-up ads
brestugo
10/27/23 9:56:56 AM
#4
Somehow worse than expected.

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TopicIts crazy how in the south theres a church in like every square mile of a city
brestugo
10/27/23 9:48:55 AM
#15
ai123 posted...
Any highly profitable enterprise enjoying tax exemption is going to attract a lot of competition.

This right here.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/27/23 9:46:07 AM
#55
Rexdragon125 posted...
I've voted in literally everything in the past 4 years and apparently my registration is cancelled. Fucking fascist garbage.

Yeah, provisional ballot is the way to go now. I don't know Ohio laws, but worth contacting the Registrar over. Maybe even the media (keep your anonymity).

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TopicIt makes me laugh how fashion is largely marketed to men.
brestugo
10/27/23 6:59:18 AM
#8
Not disagreeing, but I also like to notice how how often they mix in sex whenever possible.

Like, "This shit's great and all, but women will really like you for buying it."

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TopicWhat game would you sell your soul to play for the first time again?
brestugo
10/27/23 6:53:09 AM
#6
Bloodborne

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TopicGermany to enforce obligatory USB-C compatibility from 2024
brestugo
10/27/23 6:42:35 AM
#40
StealThisSheen posted...
This isn't to fight against USB A, B, D, Z, whatever. It's to fight against companies like Apple making their own proprietary cable.

The Lightning Cable is dead (in some places, probably soon to be everywhere.)

This right here. That's some anti-consumer bullshit if I ever saw it.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/27/23 6:36:23 AM
#54
Zikten posted...
Unless the person died, nobody should ever be purged

Right? I can think of no harm to anyone by keeping a living person on the voter rolls.

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TopicActive Shooter in Maine Part 2
brestugo
10/27/23 6:34:18 AM
#29
I wouldn't be surprised if he's getting some support from someone else at this point.

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TopicThe racist roots of runoff elections
brestugo
10/27/23 6:24:28 AM
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https://www.starherald.net/most-recent/racist-origins-runoff-elections-which-mississippi-may-see-november-governors-race-653594965fe6a

A lot of people are closely watching for the possibility of a runoff election between Republican incumbent Tate Reeves and Democratic challenger Brandon Presley in the November contest for Mississippi governor.

People have reasons to be excited. After all, if a runoff should occur, it would be the first general election runoff in Mississippi history. And people nationally also should be excited. The runoffs for U.S. Senate seats in Georgia in 2020 and 2022 are the only runoffs to occur across the nation in recent years.

While the rarity of runoffs makes them exciting, it should not be forgotten that the genesis for modern day runoff elections can be traced to efforts after the Civil War to place barriers to African Americans voting and holding political office.

The reason general election runoffs are rare is that Mississippi and Georgia are the only two states to require them. Well, there is Louisiana that is unique because of the so-called jungle primary where there are no party primaries. All candidates there appear on the same ballot, and if no one gets a majority vote, the top two vote-getters advance to a second election.

But Mississippi and Georgia are the only states where a candidate in the general election must garner a majority of the vote, or 50% plus one, to win. If no candidate gets that majority in Georgia and Mississippi, the top two vote-getters advance to the runoff.

Here is how the runoff works: the winners of the Democratic and Republican primaries advance to the November general election. But also eligible to compete in the general election are third party candidates and independents. With more than two candidates on the ballot, there always is the possibility that in a close election, no candidate will win a majority of the vote.

Since independent candidate Gwendolyn Gray dropped out of the 2023 governors race too late to have her name removed from the ballot, the possibility exists that neither Reeves nor Presley will obtain a majority of the vote on Nov. 7, resulting in a runoff election three weeks later on Nov. 28.

While Mississippi and Georgia, excluding the weirdness that is Louisiana, are the only states with general election runoffs, 10 mostly Southern states have runoffs in party primaries.

Only two non-Southern states have party primary runoffs: South Dakota and Vermont. In the non-Southern states, the conditions leading to a runoff seldom if ever occur, like in Vermont only if there is a tie.

The party primaries were put in place after Reconstruction as one of many efforts by the Southern states white lawmakers to ensure that African Americans were not elected to statewide office.

Remember, in those days the Republican Party had little or no power in the South. For all practical purposes, the winner of the Democratic primary won the office. The white Southern power structure incorporated the party primary runoffs as an extra step in the process, believing it would be more difficult for poor Black voters to come to the polls a second time.

It is clear from the narrative of the day that efforts to prevent Blacks from holding public office was most often the intent of the runoff.

Two states Georgia and Mississippi added additional hurdles making it more difficult for Blacks to be elected to statewide office. In Georgia, there was a so-called county unit system, where candidates captured statewide elections by winning the most counties. The 159 Georgia counties were assigned electoral votes based on their size, and rural states had disproportionately more electors.

After the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the county unit system in the 1960s, Georgia created its current runoff system for general elections.

According to published reports, Denmark Grover, the then-Georgia legislator who played a key role in creating the runoff, did not try to hide his intent.

If you want to establish if I was racially prejudiced, I was, he said years later. If you want to establish that some of my political activity was racially motivated, it was.

And in Mississippi, the Legislature and ultimately the voters, at the urging of the federal judiciary, removed in 2020 another provision historically designed to keep African Americans from being elected to statewide office. That provision required a candidate for statewide office to garner a majority of the popular vote and win the most votes in a majority of the 122 House districts. If both of those goals were not achieved, the Mississippi House selected the winner.

While removing that provision from the state Constitution, the Mississippi Legislature in 2020 enacted another provision that has a history also steeped in racism: the runoff. And Mississippi, home to the highest percentage of Black residents in the nation, still has never popularly elected a Black candidate to statewide office.

In an interesting twist, in the recent Georgia runoffs, the candidates supported by a vast majority of Black voters including one Black candidate, now-Sen. Raphael Warnock prevailed.

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TopicDid your parents forbid you from celebrating Halloween due to it being 'Satanic'
brestugo
10/27/23 6:01:30 AM
#61
Kim_Seong-a posted...
I mean, Tijuana Bibles were a thing

Only ever saw one or two of those things. They were legendary though.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/27/23 5:45:53 AM
#52
DnDer posted...
Right?

If you can get issued a social security card just for existing, you can get a voter registration just for existing.

Your first contact with government - SSN, Drivers license, whatever - should inititiate registration in the voting process. If that's at 16, you'd wait a couple years, but you're in. The only purging should be if someone for some unimaginable reason requests to be purged.

The way the US does it is completely undemocratic.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/26/23 6:55:48 PM
#23
A_Good_Boy posted...
If they hadn't voted in 4 years were they suddenly going to vote in this election?

Maybe? Sounds like turnout is pretty high there.

For constitutionally protected abortion rights and legal recreational marijuana, some infrequent voters probably would have liked to have been able to vote this year, one way or the other.

In any case, it's not like keeping them on the voter rolls was dragging the state down in any way.

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TopicActive shooter in Maine
brestugo
10/26/23 6:38:22 PM
#361
As the night falls, they'll probably use FLIR (thermal imaging) cameras to scan the forests.

I've been to Maine this time of year, and he's going to have to do something that will create a heat profile to get through the night. If he's still alive.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/26/23 6:26:25 PM
#12
Solar_Crimson posted...
It's because America generally doesn't want certain people to be able to vote.

It was built into the system, unfortunately.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/26/23 6:24:39 PM
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Anything they can do to keep the vote down will be done at this point.

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TopicOhio purges over 26K more voters before November election
brestugo
10/26/23 6:11:15 PM
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https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-secretary-of-state-voter-roll-purge-2023-frank-larose-voter-status-check/45654058

Over 26,000 Ohio voters were purged from voter rolls last month due to inactivity by the Ohio Secretary of State.

NBC affiliate WCMHreports that while Secretary of State Frank LaRose hasn't announced the canceled voter registrations, the office's website has updated its database of of purged voters. To see if your voter registration has been canceled, click here.

Voters purged from the rolls can re-register to vote on the Secretary of State website. Those who were removed in September who did not register before Oct. 10 cannot vote in the Nov. 7 election.

As of Sept. 29, 26,666 voters were purged in the most recent cycle, according to the database. Of those voters, 3,018 were purged from the Hamilton County voter rolls.

WCMH says in March 2019, 34,692 voters who appeared in the National Change of Address database as having potentially moved were mailed notices that they had four years to take action before they would be removed from the rolls. In February of this year, LaRose directed county election boards to send additional notices to inactive voters with the warning that their registration could be canceled after the May primary.

Per LaRoses 2019 directive and under the NCOA process, voter registrations were to be canceled by late July. In June, LaRose instructed elections boards not to purge voters before the August special election but to expel voters from the rolls by Sept. 27.

For registration to be considered active, voters must have voted, confirmed or updated their registration, or engaged in voter activity in the past four years.

In an Oct. 20 letter to LaRose, Rep. Bride Rose Sweeney (D-Westlake) criticized the voter purge, especially as early voting had already begun for the November election with two statewide issues on the ballot.

You even stopped the purge before the August 2023 election, but now that our reproductive rights, our very lives, are on the November ballot, you have rushed to purge voters, Sweeney wrote. I urge you to do the right thing, be transparent, and undo any damage that may have been done.

LaRoses office did not respond to questions by the time of publication.

County boards of elections were ordered to cancel inactive voters' registration by Jan. 9 under the NCOA process and a supplemental process that began in 2018. In late February, LaRose announced that 124,158 voters were purged.

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TopicMan spends night trapped in bank vault
brestugo
10/26/23 5:28:24 PM
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NGL, I'm so claustrophobic, they'd need to take me from that vault straight to therapy.

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TopicTim Scott takes his campaign to a black church. In Chicago...
brestugo
10/26/23 4:51:49 PM
#18
hereforemnant posted...
This is all the right does. I'll blow 1/2 these regressives out of the water with data & policy that will objectively help & support people over what the right offers them, & the same people will then go back to complaining about token issues no one is concerned about because they don't have abject policy measures to offer for the lower & middle classhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/2/AAYJ5oAAE-dm.jpg

Seriously, WTF are they for? It's all about tearing things down with these guys or 'protecting' some thing that is evolving, but under no real existential threat.

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TopicSpeaker Mike Johnson is apparently very anti-gay sex
brestugo
10/26/23 4:46:36 PM
#28
If you were shocked by the moral lapses at the Super Bowl you aint seen nothin yet, Johnson wrote.

The officiating was questionable sometimes, but this just sounds like whining. /s

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TopicActive shooter in Maine
brestugo
10/26/23 4:08:45 PM
#336
KitKats posted...
The GOP's new speaker Mike Johnson is already out blaming mass shootings on the cultural revolution of the 60's, blaming no fault divorces becoming legal, and schools embracing the teaching of evolution.

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1717564759158239331


He left out cooties, not flossing daily and...the kitchen sink. Let's get to the god damn root causes here. (/s)

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TopicDo you use the 'Trip Info/Mileage' on your vehicle?
brestugo
10/26/23 2:27:19 PM
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Only ever used it on cross country trips, which I refuse to do anymore.

I used to have a coworker that used it to track mpg, factoring in things like a/c use, hills, etc. Don't think I need to mention she's easily the most 'anal retentive' person I've ever met.

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TopicWe should abolish the Electoral College ASAP
brestugo
10/26/23 2:07:59 PM
#45
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Well that's another issue, but there was a guy from NY who spent most of his terms (plural) in the Bahamas, so in person voting is basically a requirement now.

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TopicActive shooter in Maine
brestugo
10/26/23 2:03:00 PM
#301
The suspect's brother, Ryan Card, said in a text message to CNN that the family has "helped law enforcement in anyway possible" and that they are urging Robert to turn himself in.

He would not tell CNN if his brother has responded to the familys requests.

"The police have been given anything that we can offer to facilitate their efforts," he said

I'd be more comfortable with that statement if "everything" appeared more often than "anything". Comfort level would skyrocket if he had used the word at all.

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TopicWe should abolish the Electoral College ASAP
brestugo
10/26/23 1:54:04 PM
#42
Were_Wyrm posted...
Honestly fixing the EC is as simple as fixing the number of reps in the house. There's no reason to cap them at 435, other than one party not wanting to lose control.

Not necessarily disagreeing, but available space also was a consideration with that number.

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TopicWe should abolish the Electoral College ASAP
brestugo
10/26/23 1:38:25 PM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...


* The current system of people in Wyoming matter 3 times more than people in California and lets let a handful of low-population swing states decide the election is far worse than lets have everyone vote equally and pick who wins.


Every. God. Damn. Election.

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TopicWe should abolish the Electoral College ASAP
brestugo
10/26/23 1:13:56 PM
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Should have been done with it after the Civil War.

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TopicActive shooter in Maine
brestugo
10/26/23 12:04:41 PM
#265
DarkBuster22904 posted...
Mental health ultimately is not the problem.

Can it be a contributing factor? Absolutely, no question. And should we have better infrastructure for identifying and treating mental health issues? Again, no question.

But the number of people with mental health issues who inturn go on to commit crimes like these is infintisimally low. A fraction of a fraction. If we were to fix the mass shooting problem by improving mental health outcomes, we would need the most robust system in the history of the universe, with a near 100% success rate to even have a prayer; robust enough to ensure the most fringe outliers of the fringe outliers don't fall through the cracks. Simply put, that's not going to happen.

The issue is, and always has been, gun access. With 400 million guns out in the wild in the US, we are at roughly 125% population saturation in terms of firearm ownership, yet remarkably these "good guys with guns" never seem to appear. Almost like increased access makes the problem worse, and hero-complex defenders are just delusional liars.

Moreover, even IF we were to walk to the pier of "mental health solutions..." the same right wing chuds who deflect from gun control with the "mental health" line ALSO heavily oppose universal Healthcare, mental health resources in schools, welfare assistance to the impoverished, increased funding to social work, etc. You know, all the things that would make health care more effective and easy to access. So it's not like they actually care about that, either.

Well said.

I'll add that there's no evidence of any more mental health issues in the US than anywhere else, but plenty of evidence that we have more, and more easily obtainable guns than anywhere else.

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TopicDid your parents forbid you from celebrating Halloween due to it being 'Satanic'
brestugo
10/26/23 11:59:09 AM
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pedro45 posted...
That must have been what Luanne read on King of the Hill except she said the Jewish. It's amazing how damaging and long standing misinformation can be.

Luanne was always the brains on that show.

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TopicTim Scott takes his campaign to a black church. In Chicago...
brestugo
10/26/23 11:40:14 AM
#12
Starks posted...
Scott's entire campaign is "fuck you, I got mine, I'll keep telling you about it and pull up the ladder behind me".

There's a distressingly large (IMO) number of black voters who that message appeals to. I've seen numbers as high as ~10% among black men.

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TopicHouse Speak vote topic IV The Search for More Money
brestugo
10/26/23 11:15:59 AM
#249
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/1/AAcJoVAAE-dR.jpg

Sad. Could have had Mayor McCheese...

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TopicTim Scott takes his campaign to a black church. In Chicago...
brestugo
10/26/23 11:09:14 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
This is the shit that is just so frustrating to hear because it works on dipshits that don't hear that and immediately retch at the right wing hypocrisy of these ****s doing EXACTLY THAT.


It's a strawman. I've yet to hear anyone suggest that the government should raise kids. Just that the government should protect kids from misguided and overzealous parents and school boards.


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TopicWhy does every Dollar General look like shit?
brestugo
10/26/23 11:04:16 AM
#16
Jabodie posted...
That's part of the business model

Came here to post this.

There's been research that shows evidence of some customers even preferring that look. Something about liking "no frills" shopping.

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TopicTim Scott takes his campaign to a black church. In Chicago...
brestugo
10/26/23 10:52:32 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/tim-scott-tests-campaign-mostly-black-audience-mixed-reviews-rcna122208

Tim Scotts staunch focus on winning over Republicans in early-voting states means he has spoken to predominantly white audiences at nearly all of his presidential campaign events.

That changed this week in Chicago, where Scott, a senator from South Carolina, delivered a campaign speech before a mostly Black group of prospective voters, testing his messaging on a group thats typically skeptical of the Republican Party and remained skeptical after it heard what Scott had to say, attendees said in interviews.

Scott has largely been hesitant to make his race a focus of his candidacy, though his career has been defined by historic feats like becoming the first Black senator from the South since Reconstruction. Despite that, Scott has fielded repeated questions on the trail from white Republican voters eager to hear about how he could win over more voters of color.

At a different campaign event Tuesday after the Chicago stop, Scott said he was optimistic that his race could give him better luck in recruiting Black voters to the party, possibly capitalizing on a trend that has been growing since 2020.

One of the reasons why we went to South Side is because I have lived a similar experience to people who find themselves trapped in poverty, who are today growing up in single-parent households who are wondering whether the American dream can work for them, he said. If I can use my personal pain and misery to share the truth that conservative principles are worth [it] long-term I think the better off our country will be.

Corey Brooks, the lead pastor of New Beginnings Church, invited Scott to the South Side of Chicago to speak before church members and tour a community center under construction. Brooks extended invitations to all 2024 presidential candidates and welcomed Scott as the first to accept the offer.

The very fact that we would have a presidential candidate come to the South Side of Chicago and not just grace the South Side of Chicago with his presence, but right here on 'Opportunity Block,' is a major, major thing, Brooks said, referencing his name for the neighborhood.

Over the course of an hour, Scott spoke to an audience of roughly 50 people, giving his signature scripture-laced speech that leaned heavily into his upbringing.

I grew up with kids who ended up in the graveyard or in jail, he said. Thats why I think this message is absolutely essential for me to preach and for me to share it, because Ive lived it. I know the consequences of decisions. Ive seen it with my own eyes. Ive experienced the pain myself.

He then shifted into a posture more typical of his campaign, preaching about the social ills he says have been propagated by the left at the expense of cities like Chicago.

The far left has spent decades getting soft on crime, defending failing schools, undermining traditional values and weakening capitalism, he said. If this movement actually cared about Americans of any color, any color, they would admit their failures and change direction. But its not about inspiration. Its about manipulation, because its about power.

Scott reiterated controversial comments he made at the second Republican primary debate, asserting that Lyndon B. Johnsons Great Society social programs caused sustained damage to Black and brown communities. He called for more personal accountability and criticized Democrats for feeding communities of color this drug of victimhood and the narcotic of despair.

The government cannot and should not raise our kids. Social programs can never be the breadwinner who gives our family a better life, he said. You cant have freedom without personal responsibility.

For Scott, the Chicago event was a resounding success. He touted his performance there at a meet-and-greet event Monday evening with an all-white crowd of predominantly older voters in Marshalltown, Iowa.

When I finished talking about how the GOP, the great opportunity party, can bring resources, better education, lower crime, higher unemployment, Scott said, you may have thought we were in the middle of an independent, partially conservative crowd.

People at the Chicago speech who spoke in interviews afterward painted a more nuanced picture of how Scotts conservative messaging was received. Some said they felt shortchanged by a speech they described as more focused on attacking the left than on highlighting specific policies from the right that would better their communities.

Im disappointed with the speech, said Kimberly Wimberly, who attended the speech with her husband, Roderick. He never got to the part where he can fix it. You want to be in the highest position in the whole United States of America, and yet you have not come with any solutions to the problem. You just pointed out the problem.

Roderick Wimberly said: I thought we were going to have a policy discussion. Many times when politicians come to our communities, theyre not coming to engage in actual policy discussions, because they may overlook us and think that, well, they wont understand these discussions.

He said he hoped Scott would highlight his stance on abortion, corrective measures he would take to address low property values in the city and his plan to address lackluster funding for city schools.

Kimberly Wimberly added: Were not looking for the theatrics. Were not looking for the dramatization. We just want to hear you. Were intelligent people.

Others feltScotts focus on personal accountability while denying the existence of systemic and institutional racism in America overly simplified a nuanced conversation.

Im a personal individual thats been held accountable for my actions. I got locked up in 1989. I was 16 years old. I didnt get out until I was 48, said a formerly incarcerated man who asked not to share his full name.

The institutional racism looks like this right here: When you try and apply for a job, they got on the application background checks. When you try to get housing, background checks, he said.

Roderick Wimberly said, It blames the people who are in poverty for their failure to achieve and kind of demonizes us.

Kimberly Wimberly said: We do want to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, but we need boots, and we need the straps. A lot of us are barefoot.

Despite the criticisms, Scotts speech did draw some support in the room.
Im glad he came. And I hope that people start to realize that we need to change, said Lavondale Glass, who goes by the nickname Big Dale. Im looking at our neighborhood, and our neighborhoods been the same for the last 47 years, and thats what the Democrats have been doing. So we need a whole new regime.

Im a vote for him, Glass said.

Still, the overall feeling of most attendees was that Scotts attempt to appeal to the group through his life story was undercut by his politicking.

The bottom line is any person that comes through these doors, any other door where they meet the public, theyre trying to win votes. Period, said Ron Bellamy, a retired educator.

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TopicIs Musk just putting on an act, he seems to not understand how websites work.
brestugo
10/26/23 10:31:51 AM
#31
Southernfatman posted...
He's just a 4 channer who was lucky enough to slither out of a rich lady's filth.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/1/AAcJoVAAE2qh.jpg

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