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You get no material to determine if he's town if you hammer him before he claims or even reacts

It is throwing the game unless you believe he is scum (IGCD never stated he thought Red was scum whatsoever)

Lopen posted...

I think if you think that's fun as town you should stop playing mafia straight up.

If you're town I somewhat apologize for this comment IGCD

But I also think you should re-evaluate what you consider fun in this game. Like I have no idea why any town player would think that was fun. I think if you're thinking that's fun you're actively throwing the game which makes the game worse for everyone

Actually just lynch me today

I feel like there's more material if you lynch me than IGCD.

IGCD being scum is not a complete given with the way Corrik and Ulti are playing here. I have too much respect for their play to think they're actually thinking I'm scum here.

Chang being scum however is 100% given.

Chang Ulti Corrik is vaguely possible.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Chang

If you're not willing to lynch Chang, just lynch me and get it over with.

To town:

If you think Chang is town you should lynch me and edumey to end the game quicker

Maybe it's just Ulti and Corrik and IGCD really should just stop playing.

Well whatever. If it's Ulti and Corrik we're screwed anyway.

You can kill me if you want. No more posts from me today. Bye.

Whichever one of you is town is having an embarrassing game. Completely embarrassing.

Corrik7 posted...

You said you knew he wouldn't claim, and left your vote on him at -1.

If we don't even give him a chance to claim then there's no point.

Wait for red to be all snooty and say "nah I'm town and I'm not claiming" then hammer him and revel regardless of his alignment because he misplayed

Just rush hammering him without him being able to talk is only fun if you're scum

Like seriously

I was going to go out to bat for you for Death and Plum hating on you for faking day vig or whatever.

But if that's actually a play you make as town and enjoy just stop playing. You're just making the game less fun for the people actually trying.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I don't appreciate you telling me what I think is fun

I think if you think that's fun as town you should stop playing mafia straight up.

First bullet point of post 1 in the game

5tarscream posted...

Not to mention the miller claim would cover a guilty scan

I'm not miller.

Corrik7 posted...

Are we not gonna talk about no night kill last night or something?

Hbthebattle posted...

There will be mechanics in this game that could punish scum all rushing on and hammering someone to try and end the game in MYLO/LYLO, or trying to end day early
Notice that there wasnt a shot last night.

Probably this.

Lynch this order

IGCD
Chang
Corrik (if Corrik doesn't actually play the game he's scum) or Ulti (if Corrik does actually play the game, you need to decide Ulti or Corrik-- I'd probably still lean Corrik because it's day 4 and he's still being lazy-- also he's saying I'm scum when he's said I'm town all game)

You can throw me in there whenever you want. I've fully claimed.

And you're saying you like it?

Are you going to play the game or not?

See that's not my kind of fun.

I love early hammers

Love them

But not when the person isn't there and when most of the votes on the guy are claiming they're for pressure

We can't say "lol red you suck you didn't claim and died for it" and that's just the worst.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

when he very much has gotten pushed off at me for the same kind of plays before is very telling.

Wait so this meant "pissed off?"

When? I'm pretty sure I literally never have gotten pissed off at you for such plays. Name one time.

Corrik7 posted...

Im not scum. See you day 4.

It's day 4

Please play the game now.

Corrik7

You've been given 3 days are you going to play the game now?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You keep saying that but have provided no reasoning for it.

Lol

IGCD is not this bad at the game. This is scum showing.

No

That's not the same kind of play

That's not what a town player thinks is actually fun

Zerg rushing votes to hammer is fun but not when they're not there. You completely ruined my fun because I was looking forward to gloating at Red for sucking at the game when he didn't claim.

Corrik7 posted...

Fun lol

Did you think that was fun? Honestly?

My scum list however follows a process

1. IGCD - Claimed scum yesterday
2. Chang - Pocketed Han with a lengthy discussion on cult only setup that he would have only been able to figure out with a perspective slip. Notice this so called town neighborizer still hasn't claimed either.
3. Ulti - Pretty much a given by how the recruiter works. You want to recruit a target that is hard to lynch. Han, Corrik, me, and Ulti are all notoriously difficult to lynch and I think SBell would default to someone he has a lot of experience playing with that was considered reasonably townish. Corrik and Han were scanned town-- yeah GF is possible but whatever.

EDumey posted...

Obviously I know I'm town, but something is really wrong with your PoE here.

He's scum. His POE doesn't follow a process.

Chang rule of 3ing his suspect list makes more sense though.

Ulti x IGCD x Chang just makes more sense.

So I guess the possibility exists that Edumey is actually the recruit

Edumey fearing Peaf and killing him as a result would make sense. Maybe SBell wanted a non-traditional recruit to create and endgame state where we're all expecting players that are traditionally hard to lynch to be the recruit.

As for why it's Ulti, look at my POE on the recruit.

Well I guess it could be GF Han/Corrik and not Ulti, which would suck, but oh well.

Whatever. I'm fine with playing the percentages here.

Actually Death you should scan Ulti-- people are just going to say I'm GF anyway lol

Anyway yeah really not interested in arguing with scum Chang. And if IGCD is town I don't really care if we lose anyway. If you want to save lynches Death, you can scan me tonight. I'm not actually miller.

I am

That 2 Hours Long Cutscene At The End of Chapter 5, TOWN Uninterrupted Bulletproof

I am bulletproof until targeted by a non-killing night action. I claimed miller (in addition to doing it as homage to Ben's absurd claims) in hopes town would not target me. However I was targeted Night 2 by something and as such am no longer Bulletproof.

I wasn't begging for you to vote lol

I was literally saying "we wait till he claims then hammer if the claim is bad"

I said "if he's scum, you two look bad" but he wasn't scum-- the whole premise of IGCD being "goaded" into voting is absurd.

Town never hammers that. You saying it's more possible for IGCD to be town than me is your scum showing.

It's pretty much gotta be IGCD, Chang, and Ulti.

Edumey you want to lynch me tomorrow to punish me you go right ahead. The game is easy at this point.

changmas posted...

and goaded IGCD into hammering too

So you think IGCD is town then?

There is no harm whatsoever in putting him to -1. I was repeatedly saying the tally for a reason.

Nope. I've played with Red many many many times before. If he's not at -1 it doesn't matter. You put him at -2 and it won't work. Hell -1 might not even work, but it's completely lame that we can't even blame Red for playing badly.

I don't need to explain anything. I didn't do anything wrong yesterday.

I didn't want Red hammered there either-- but I know full well Red won't respond to anything less than -1.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/8/AAAlMSAAEJAw.jpg

Literally the game giving the match to the opponent here. After I so strategically filled his board after X mansion too

It only makes a difference for me if you'd rather have 6 than 7

Basically just have me play or not play whatever achieves your goals better man

That Wolverine is awesome. Most of the variants in that aren't interesting but I love that Wolverine and love one of the Helas.

https://www.marvelsnap.com/newsdetail?id=7181350408349063942

Obviously run Giganto + Leader

PerfectChaosZ posted...

Ive been running a similar deck that started as a Devil Dinosaur deck but became a SHIELD deck (cameo by Devil Dinosaur). Nice synergy.

Yeah. I feel the Devil Dinosaur love. I've been heavily considering putting him in my deck because my hand often gets overcrowded with all the "draw a card when you play this" stuff. I just don't know what I'd take out. Blue Marvel often gets more bonus power overall than Dinosaur and I wouldn't really want to take out lower cost stuff because then my cost starts skewing higher and part of what makes the deck fun is just dumping a million cards (and being able to actually play the random cards I get-- if Dino and Marvel become super premium then less window to play them)

foolm0r0n posted...

Everyone has 4 costs who can benefit some amount from a free Zabu effect

Not really, though. Pretty much the only time someone 100% will benefit is if they have 2 4s to drop on turn 4, which isn't really all that likely if they themselves aren't a Zabu deck

You have to think of it not in terms of cost reductions gained but in terms of what the alternative becomes. Most of my decks really value their 5 drops and their 6 drops. You can say "well they get some benefit" but like... most of the time I'm going to get an extra 2 drop at best. It almost doesn't matter.

It still works on turn 5, but would I rather drop a 4 and a 3 or a 5? Most of my decks I'm just going to drop a 5. It still works on turn 6, but would I rather drop a 4 + stuff then or drop a 6?

Like I'm not saying it helping both players doesn't provide some token benefit for the other player at all times, but I think the win rate on it would actually increase due to +1 power helping more than the 4 cost reduction helps the other guy. That's why I think if you go that way you need to make the benefit the other guy gets more generalized.

foolm0r0n posted...

People who play against his nerfed form won't really feel happier either. They will just lose less.

You are strongly underestimating how much people like to win.

I'll play. I just wanted to opt out if we had more interest than the number of people you wanted to play in it.

Zabu
3/2
Ongoing: Your 4 cost cards cost 2 less
On Reveal: Give the highest cost card in your opponent's hand -2 cost

Big problem is the nature of the game is that a lot of decks won't benefit from the supposed drawback. The big decks that will are the decks running him already.

Putting some sort of actual drawback on him like Electro is possibly a good idea though.

foolm0r0n posted...

Zabu
3/3
Ongoing: Everyone's 4 cost cards cost 2 less

Arguably a buff tbh.

Zabu
3/2
On Reveal: Next turn, your 4 cost cards cost 2 less.

Zabu
2/2
Ongoing: Your 4 cost cards cost 1 less.

Zabu
3/3
Ongoing: Your 4 cost cards cost 2 less to play to this location.

3 balance changes just thinking for 5 minutes that I think all have more promise than the one they suggested

Finally hit Omega Rank with this wacky deck

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/2/AAAlMSAAEI2M.jpg

It seems like it shouldn't work but it's actually really effective whenever Collector or Quinjet are drawn early. Also the sheer volume of random cards means you might luck into a solution once in a while. I just won a game against White Tiger Wong Odin silliness by having Fury recruit Orka to drop a 14 power guy on the right lane to beat the Odin lane by itself for 4 cost. It's just a fun deck to play.

I'm actually up for lynching Ulti today after red claims