Why do they say self check out is a scam?

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--Zero- posted...
If you dont understand how its a scam then you yourself have accepted reality as it is and dont mind being taken advantage of.

You are paying the same prices to do the job of a cashier. Pretty simple to understand lol.


Cant tell if serious or just delusional.

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Crono99 posted...
They force customers to do the job and if they make a mistake they get handcuffed and accused of stealing

Just part of a trend where costs go up and service goes down

I have had at least 5 clients tell me this story, and every single time, they turned out to be guilty.

I get a lot of theft clients, and it seems theft charges stemming from incidents in self-checkout is becoming more common. I hear the same pitch during the initial consultation about an accident. Then discovery happens, and the evidence from the county attorney's office includes video footage of them making the same "mistake" 5 times prior with the same or similar items.

It is uncommon for grocery stores to pursue these types of theft charges until they see repeat offenders.
--Zero- posted...
You are paying the same prices to do the job of a cashier. Pretty simple to understand lol.

You only pay the same price if you adhere to the honor system. Supermarkets know this, and have implicitly agreed to only worry about large-scale theft.
They only ever have one lane open by me. Most are self check out
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--Zero- posted...
If you dont understand how its a scam then you yourself have accepted reality as it is and dont mind being taken advantage of.

You are paying the same prices to do the job of a cashier. Pretty simple to understand lol.
But I do it faster than them and to me that's worth it. I don't feel like I'm being taken advantage of, I feel like I'm being catered to.
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Bc there's a certain population group we used to ignore, however the internet gave them a bullhorn and here we are.

Self checkouts are faster which is why I like them.

They have taken exactly 0 jobs. Nearly every major grocery chain is actually employing more people than before due to the rise of Online Grocery shopping, someone has to pick/organize/package all of those orders.

Around here ~40+% of Walmart sales are through online shoppers.
Grocery stores: "We installed self-checkouts because we trust you to scan your own groceries."
Also grocery stores: "We station employees at the exits to check your receipts because we don't trust you to honestly scan your own groceries."
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TyVulpine posted...
Grocery stores: "We installed self-checkouts because we trust you to scan your own groceries."
Also grocery stores: "We station employees at the exits to check your receipts because we don't trust you to honestly scan your own groceries."
Also in prepare to get randomly selected for a theft check if your skin is a shade darker than snow.
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A lot of places around me close self checkouts to make it more manageable for the staff they have. It leads to very long lines for self checkout and if they have any staffed checkouts it's usually only one and it's as far away from the self checkouts as possible. It almost always moves faster than self checkout too.

We also have at least one grocery store where you have to know exactly how many bags you will have and hope that all of the items are heavy enough that they can be detected as bagged. If you don't have enough bags then you have to wait until after you pay or the system will lock you out until an employee can verify your items which takes awhile since there are likely at least 2 others that need to have their bagged items verified.

The only way I find self checkout to be better is you can it reduces the number of bags you need (Walmart is particularly egregious in my experience in they will only bag 1-3 items per bag)
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Cocytus posted...
You do?

absolutely

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voldothegr8 posted...
But I do it faster than them and to me that's worth it. I don't feel like I'm being taken advantage of, I feel like I'm being catered to.
100% This.

My Stop & Shop has an app for my phone. It acts as the scanner. I scan everything as I'm shopping, put it in the bags, and then just scan a barcode at the end.

Once every 10 or so times I'll get flagged and customer service comes over and scans 3 random items to make sure I scanned them and aren't stealing them.

Quite frankly, it's a godsend. The time saved loading my cart, unloading it onto the belt, and then loading the cart again, is worth whatever "I'm doing their job" BS people are complaining about.

It takes zero effort to be a good person.
Current events is the only place you see people complain about self checkout. Boggles the mind.
How quaint.
C_Pain posted...
Current events is the only place you see people complain about self checkout. Boggles the mind.

I guess you have never seen stand up comedy.
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toreysback posted...
i see the misunderstanding

they say it's a scan...
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--Zero- posted...
If you dont understand how its a scam then you yourself have accepted reality as it is and dont mind being taken advantage of.

You are paying the same prices to do the job of a cashier. Pretty simple to understand lol.
This only makes sense if theyre hiring less staff for cashiers to save money rather then re-assigning them to other task in the store.

Even then no business is obligated to reduce prices after each cost cutting decision. Hell that defeats the entire purpose of doing them actually.
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Dark-Summoner posted...
Bc there's a certain population group we used to ignore, however the internet gave them a bullhorn and here we are.

Self checkouts are faster which is why I like them.

They have taken exactly 0 jobs. Nearly every major grocery chain is actually employing more people than before due to the rise of Online Grocery shopping, someone has to pick/organize/package all of those orders.

Around here ~40+% of Walmart sales are through online shoppers.
I do online groceries.
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thronedfire2 posted...
absolutely

cat litter is expensive
You ain't afraid of getting caught?
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thronedfire2 posted...
absolutely

cat litter is expensive

And youre helping keep it that way. Hope you get caught, thieves are scum and you arent even thieving to survive.
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Cocytus posted...
You ain't afraid of getting caught?

most of the time the security guy is busy on his phone

its not like theyd arrest me for a $15 theft. Id just say oops I forgot to scan that

spikethedevil posted...
And youre helping keep it that way. Hope you get caught, thieves are scum and you arent even thieving to survive.

theft is already built into the price in every store.
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thronedfire2 posted...
most of the time the security guy is busy on his phone

its not like theyd arrest me for a $15 theft. Id just say oops I forgot to scan that

theft is already built into the price in every store.

And scum bag shoplifters are part of the reason for high prices.

Hope you get caught and done for it.
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spikethedevil posted...
And scum bag shoplifters are part of the reason for high prices.

Hope you get caught and done for it.

sorry you bought the corporate lie about shoplifting being why prices are high or stores get closed

grocery stores sell most of their shit at a 300-500% markup. Theft is included in shrink which is part of any major stores budget, and the vast majority of it is employee theft and damaged or otherwise unsellable/expired product.

but either way, shoplifting and employee theft are nothing compared to how much money big companies steal from their own employees every year
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thronedfire2 posted...
sorry you bought the corporate lie about shoplifting being why prices are high or stores get closed

grocery stores sell most of their shit at a 300-500% markup. Theft is included in shrink which is part of any major stores budget, and the vast majority of it is employee theft and damaged or otherwise unsellable/expired product.

but either way, shoplifting and employee theft are nothing compared to how much money big companies steal from their own employees every year
Still you don't think theft is a contributor to high prices?
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Zwijn posted...
So what should I do, not use it and spend longer checking out just to make a point? Ill take being a cuck if it means Im done faster.

Stop using it in protest. If more people used a little patience and more brain power they could prove to department stores that they need to open more registers, pay their employees better, or offer a discount for self check out.

Also big Lol at people thinking you can move faster in self checkout with a cart full of groceries. Thats a whole other layer of issues with self checkout with stores that only open 1-2 cash register lanes. No one can legitimately argue theyre not being suckers for using self check out without a discount. You cant even justify it by theft either.
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Asherlee10 posted...
I objectively can because I'm scanning items as I'm pulling it off of the shelf and putting it in a bag in my cart. When I get to the self-check out area I scan 1 QR code and leave. It takes maybe 30 seconds.

Your average person isnt doing this and this isnt something you can do at any store. Youre also putting in more work doing this and putting yourself in a position to be accused of theft every time.
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--Zero- posted...
Your average person isnt doing this and this isnt something you can do at any store . Youre also putting in more work doing this and putting yourself in a position to be accused of theft every time.
In my country thats normal, these go in your cart and you scan when putting stuff in the cart. Then you just scan the end result.
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Waiting an extra 15 minutes in a line to avoid putting 7 items into a grocery bag is not something I understand but to each their own I guess.
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Zwijn posted...
In my country thats normal, these go in your cart and you scan when putting stuff in the cart. Then you just scan the end result.
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Merica isnt doing it right then lol
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Sandalorn posted...
Waiting an extra 15 minutes in a line to avoid putting 7 items into a grocery bag is not something I understand but to each their own I guess.

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thronedfire2 posted...
sorry you bought the corporate lie about shoplifting being why prices are high or stores get closed

grocery stores sell most of their shit at a 300-500% markup. Theft is included in shrink which is part of any major stores budget, and the vast majority of it is employee theft and damaged or otherwise unsellable/expired product.

but either way, shoplifting and employee theft are nothing compared to how much money big companies steal from their own employees every year


You're still a thief. Rationalize it all you want but you're a fucking filthy thief. Hope you get caught and banned.
Cocytus posted...
Still you don't think theft is a contributor to high prices?

maybe like 5%

the rest is greed
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It is unpaid labor so if you enjoy doing free work for rich company owners I am sure they are very happy to accept it, and profit from your free labor in the name of convenience.

It is also great they even have that one paid employee that guides, and supervises the free help if they arent doing things correctly.

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Mistere_Man posted...
It is unpaid labor so if you enjoy doing free work for rich company owners


LOL..The drama here is awesome.
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Sandalorn posted...
You're still a thief. Rationalize it all you want but you're a fucking filthy thief. Hope you get caught and banned.

lmao man calm down
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Asherlee10 posted...
Might as well say shopping is unpaid labor, then. Should we also consider the fuel costs driving to the store? If an item is out of stock and I have to return the next day, should I invoice the company?


You also had to take those same groceries to the car by yourself. The unpaid labor you did when putting them in your car and also bringing them into your house!!! We are all slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thronedfire2 posted...
lmao man calm down


Why? You thought it would be cool to come into this thread and brag about being a thief. Nothing else is needed to make a determination about the quality of human you are.
Sandalorn posted...
LOL..The drama here is awesome.

Not drama it is what it is. You get nothing of value from it, and the company makes money on not paying for labor.

Why pay an employee $10 an hour when customers will do the job for free?
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The only danger I see here is possibly being falsely accused of theft.

Beyond that, it's not that deep, I use self checkout all the time. More times than not its even faster.
Mistere_Man posted...
You get nothing of value from it


I actually get the single biggest value available to humans - time. But like I said, please go ahead and waste 15-20 min. in a line so you don't give the big bad companies free labor. No skin off my back.
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Asherlee10 posted...
Might as well say shopping is unpaid labor, then. Should we also consider the fuel costs driving to the store? If an item is out of stock and I have to return the next day, should I invoice the company?

I have had stores give me ious before, and I have had employees help me shop.

Sandalorn posted...
You also had to take those same groceries to the car by yourself. The unpaid labor you did when putting them in your car and also bringing them into your house!!! We are all slaves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most every time I have shopped the bagger has asked if I need help with getting my groceries to the car.

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Mistere_Man posted...
Most every time I have shopped the bagger has asked if I need help with getting my groceries to the car.


Well, I hope you made them do it EVERY time even if you were buying just a few items and made them push the cart because that would make you a slave also.
Mistere_Man posted...
I have had stores give me ious before, and I have had employees help me shop.
That isn't what she asked you.

An IOU slip doesn't magically save you the money you wasted driving down to the store to find it out of stock. She asked you about the time and gas you wasted driving to the store to find the item you wanted not there forcing you to drive back up there.

An IOU/rain check doesn't change that beyond guaranteeing you a possible sale price.

Since we are complaining about "unpaid labor."

Mistere_Man posted...
Most every time I have shopped the bagger has asked if I need help with getting my groceries to the car.
Even if I entertain some bagger asked this of you most of the time (I doubt it), you still took shit to your call the rest of the time.
Sandalorn posted...
I actually get the single biggest value available to humans - time. But like I said, please go ahead and waste 15-20 min. in a line so you don't give the big bad companies free labor. No skin off my back.

I usually buy over $200-$300 in groceries in a trip so even self check out is going to take a long time for me.

Asherlee10 posted...
Again, why not consider all shopping unpaid labor, then?

And I absolutely get value from scanning as I go and walking out the door in 30 seconds after I'm done. I also have value in knowing I bagged my items correctly as I was shopping. I also have value in not having to interact with anyone.

If you have the scan as you shop sure, but getting a huge buggy full of heavy things having to unload and scan them all then bag and rebuggy them by yourself can be very annoying imo. It would be nice if they offered a discount or something.

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