Current Events > Luigi Mangione hit with federal charges, making him eligible for death penalty

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Luigi Mangionethe 26-year-old suspected killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompsonis reportedly facing federal charges of murder, multiple outlets reported Thursday, a move that may allow prosecutors to seek the death penalty. An unsealed federal criminal complaint showed Mangione is being charged with murder through use of a firearm, two stalking charges and a firearm offense, CNN reported. Federal prosecutors reportedly claimed jurisdiction in the case because of Mangiones travel in interstate commerce and use of interstate facilities, referring to him travelling to New York and him allegedly using a cell phone and internet to plan the shooting, CNN reported. The federal criminal complaint gives more insight into the notebook that was found on Mangione at the time of his arrest: Mangione reportedly wrote about his intent to wack a CEO of an insurance company at its investor conference and wrote, this investor conference is a true windfall ... and most importantly the message becomes self evident, according to the Associated Press.

Mangione already faces weapons-related charges in Pennsylvaniawhere he was recognized and arrestedand first- and second-degree murder charges in New York where the alleged crime was committed, but where the death penalty is not available. Whether federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty. The death penalty is not an option in New York nor Pennsylvania, and The New York Times reported any decision about the death penalty will likely be made by the Justice Department after President-elect Donald Trump is in office.

Trump's Justice Department is going to kill Luigi for sure.

They aren't going to pull any punches. They want to make it clear that no one is allowed to stand up to the wealthy.

such a blatant showing that the person murdered is more important than the crime itself in this country

Truly two tier

Martyring him will only make him more popular

Wouldn't be shocked if they made it public to set an example for the "poors".

They really hate the shit out of this guy

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they draw and quarter him.

I think a public execution of Luigi would just make a violent revolution inevitable. People would be enraged

Zikten posted...

I think a public execution of Luigi would just make a violent revolution inevitable. People would be enraged

Luigi's main popularity is from 18-29 year olds, and even that isn't even a majority.

AuthenticZac posted...

They aren't going to pull any punches. They want to make it clear that no one is allowed to stand up to the wealthy.

They absolutely want to make an example of him.

Martyring is probably the dumbest thing they could do.

LightSnake posted...

Luigi's main popularity is from 18-29 year olds, and even that isn't even a majority.

Sadly true, only about 40% of people approve of what he did (but only 40% disapprove)

Didnt even know NY still had a death penalty.

They're intentionally making this worse, aren't they?

AuthenticZac posted...

They aren't going to pull any punches. They want to make it clear that no one is allowed to stand up to the wealthy.

this

Toonstrack posted...

Didnt even know NY still had a death penalty.

Reading is hard

Toonstrack posted...

Didnt even know NY still had a death penalty.

If you actually read the first post you'll learn that it doesn't.

Just when you thought the use of capital punishment could not be any more morally repugnant.

rick_alverado posted...

If you actually read the first post you'll learn that it doesn't.

Not exactly thrilled that they're (from what I'm reading and I could be wrong) going over the state to claim jurisdiction in part because he used the Internet and a cellphone.

That doesn't seem like a good precedent.

Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

Sadly true, only about 40% of people approve of what he did (but only 40% disapprove)

Part of the social contract is even the murderers of bad people get punished.

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The ruling class is quivering in fear of all the mean tweets about to be sent their way

LightSnake posted...

The ruling class is quivering in fear of all the mean tweets about to be sent their way

Say what you like, but it certainly wasn't a mean tweet that got Luigi in trouble.

Do presidential pardons require the person to be convicted or since he's been charged now, can Biden pardon him? I can't imagine he will, but I also couldn't imagine Trump being elected in 2016 so what do I know.

LightSnake posted...

Part of the social contract is even the murderers of bad people get punished.

Just like Rittenhouse or Roof, yes.

Sure. Make a martyr out of him. That has such a good historical record of not inspiring others to take up the mantle.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Sure. Make a martyr out of him. That has such a good historical record of not inspiring others to take up the mantle.

The only explanation I can come up with is that they're trying to encourage revolt so they can squash it.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

such a blatant showing that the person murdered is more important than the crime itself in this country

Truly two tier

Yeah, seriously. They're throwing so many charges at him, it's insane.

philsov posted...

Just like Rittenhouse or Roof, yes.

Rittenhouse won a self defense case.

Also, which Roof are you referring to?

ReturnOfDevsman posted...

The only explanation I can come up with is that they're trying to encourage revolt so they can squash it.

That would be even dumber. The American government really sucks at guerrilla warfare and cyber terrorism, which is what the revolting would become.

LightSnake posted...

The ruling class is quivering in fear of all the mean tweets about to be sent their way

Rich people don't give you money for kissing their asses, just so you know.

HashtagSEP posted...

Rich people don't give you money for kissing their asses, just so you know.

I'm so sorry that I dared to doubt the dedication of keyboard revolutionaries to The Cause.

LightSnake posted...

I'm so sorry that I dared to doubt the dedication of keyboard revolutionaries to The Cause.

Insurance companies won't hire you even if you keep simping for them and their CEOs

Kain_Highwind posted...

Insurance companies won't hire you even if you keep simping for them and their CEOs

Does this make you feel better about yourself? You don't seem very happy.

Most people have a negative view of Mangione. Most people are not gearing up to shoot CEOs, and most people would dislike it if they would. The vast majority of this is nothing but people cheering it online while not putting themselves at any sort of risk.

Absolutely incredible that they go this far only because the person he killed was a rich CEO. They're 100% making an example out of this guy

Biden should pardon him Christmas morning

LightSnake posted...

I'm so sorry that I dared to doubt the dedication of keyboard revolutionaries to The Cause.

And if they did do something you'd complain too given your stalwart defense of establishment types and the status quo.

RobertMuldoon posted...

And if they did do something you'd complain too given your stalwart defense of establishment types and the status quo.

he has really been going mask off started even before the election really

LightSnake posted...

Luigi's main popularity is from 18-29 year olds, and even that isn't even a majority.

Whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose, lol.

Geez, that guy is basically the GameFAQs equivalent of a political hall monitor lol

LightSnake posted...

Part of the social contract is even the murderers of bad people get punished.

Seemingly this doesn't apply to CEOs.

ThunderTrain posted...

Biden should pardon him Christmas morning

Lmao if you think Biden isn't hoping that Luigi does get executed.

It's very clear they are overcharging so they push for an extreme punishment. As long as his defense attorney is good, most of this charges will likely just get thrown out.

Isn't his lawyer married to Diddy's lawyer?

LightSnake posted...

Part of the social contract is even the murderers of bad people get punished.

Another part of the social contract is that we shouldn't have an entire industry that is a massively profitable middleman between patients and health care providers, where their profits go up every time they deny a claim.

ScazarMeltex posted...

See the thing is, for the social contract to be valid, both sides have to hold up their end.

The ruling class ceased abiding by their half of the deal a long time ago. Or maybe you haven't noticed them killing us with impunity whether it be by poisoning our land, our water, the entire planet, or denying us access to healthcare. The social contract is no longer valid.

For the working class to continue abiding by it would just be to hamstring themselves. Eat the rich.

If there's one thing about LightSnake, it's that he has never shown any ability to understand this breakdown in the "established order." Understanding that doesn't automatically lead to supporting vigilante murders, but I think it would lead to very different stances than what he's taken on this issue and many others.

The people destroying our lives are counting on our continued belief in the social contract as if the purpose of wealth isn't to rewrite it on more favorable terms or opt out unilaterally. But of course, we've gotta keep up our part and shouldn't rock the boat. That would be unserious of us.

legendary_zell posted...

If there's one thing about LightSnake, it's that he has never shown any ability to understand this breakdown in the "established order." Understanding that doesn't automatically lead to supporting vigilante murders, but I think it would lead to very different stances than what he's taken on this issue and many others.

The people destroying our lives are counting on our continued belief in the social contract as if the purpose of wealth isn't to rewrite it on more favorable terms or opt out unilaterally. But of course, we've gotta keep up our part and shouldn't rock the boat. That would be unserious of us.

Ironically enough, the exact same thing people keep shit-talking the Democrats for doing.

legendary_zell posted...

If there's one thing about LightSnake, it's that he has never shown any ability to understand this breakdown in the "established order." Understanding that doesn't automatically lead to supporting vigilante murders, but I think it would lead to very different stances than what he's taken on this issue and many others.

The people destroying our lives are counting on our continued belief in the social contract as if the purpose of wealth isn't to rewrite it on more favorable terms or opt out unilaterally. But of course, we've gotta keep up our part and shouldn't rock the boat. That would be unserious of us.

You know, there's a whole lot of history to draw on that shows one constant: when killing starts, it usually doesn't stick to the people who deserve it and a whole lot of people will have very, very differing definitions of who deserves it.

Yeah, I'm not supporting a mentally disturbed murderer who chose to shoot one bad guy, nor am I confident in the capacity of social maladjusts to actually put themselves at any risk. I see nothing but "Yeah, it's all gonna come to a head" by people who get crippling anxiety dealing with DoorDash customer service, or whose boldness is insulting people from computer screens.

Just say what you really mean and admit how you want to see the established order, Zell. There'd be more dignity than this in trying to have it both ways. Or just go and organize a revolution, already.