Board 8 > Concord going offline, refunding all players

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kevwaffles 09/03/24 4:14:48 PM #52:	Wanglicious posted... AC: Shadows is in a worse situation Remember what I said about "manufactured outrage" everyone? --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981976804] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted... </cite><quote>AC: Shadows is in a worse situation</quote>Remember what I said about "manufactured outrage" everyone?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/03/24 4:17:42 PM #53:	kevwaffles posted... Two, we'll never have an ET style over-printing issue again. This is the modern equivalent of that. Love service games ship with a full year of updates and seasonal content in the reserves. None of that will see the light of day anymore. It seemed like a serious amount too with all the narrative content, not just some skins and maps. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:981976845] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite><quote>Two, we'll never have an ET style over-printing issue again.</quote>This is the modern equivalent of that. Love service games ship with a full year of updates and seasonal content in the reserves. None of that will see the light of day anymore. It seemed like a serious amount too with all the narrative content, not just some skins and maps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 09/03/24 4:20:05 PM #54:	kevwaffles posted... Remember what I said about "manufactured outrage" everyone? I don't follow AssCreed but if it wasn't already on a downward trend I'm taking any predictions of doom in the context of all that stuff. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:981976879] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite><quote>Remember what I said about "manufactured outrage" everyone?</quote>I don't follow AssCreed but if it wasn't already on a downward trend I'm taking any predictions of doom in the context of all that stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/03/24 4:36:07 PM #55:	paperwarior posted... I don't follow AssCreed but if it wasn't already on a downward trend I'm taking any predictions of doom in the context of all that stuff. I haven't played one since 3 and I don't intend to change that. But any real danger the series was ever in was solved by abandoning the yearly release model. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981977128] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>paperwarior posted... </cite><quote>I don't follow AssCreed but if it wasn't already on a downward trend I'm taking any predictions of doom in the context of all that stuff.</quote>I haven't played one since 3 and I don't intend to change that. But any real danger the series was ever in was solved by abandoning the yearly release model.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 09/03/24 4:39:46 PM #57:	Yea that's a fine tweet lol, they were talking about the weird "go woke go broke" gamers hassling them about the game and that you clearly get all of your news from lol --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:981977180] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Yea that's a fine tweet lol, they were talking about the weird "go woke go broke" gamers hassling them about the game and that you clearly get all of your news from lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 09/03/24 4:40:23 PM #58:	Also the thing about expectations is theyre entirely made up. The 2013 Tomb Raider game came out to record sales, went on to be the highest selling game in its franchise and possibly its publishers history, was highly profitable, and still came under expectations because its publisher said so. Outlaws will be fine. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:981977190] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Also the thing about expectations is theyre entirely made up. The 2013 Tomb Raider game came out to record sales, went on to be the highest selling game in its franchise and possibly its publishers history, was highly profitable, and still came under expectations because its publisher said so. Outlaws will be fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 09/03/24 4:41:21 PM #59:	greengravy294 posted... Never heard of it This. If this board isn't even talking about it, that shows their advertising left something to be desired. --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:981977204] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>greengravy294 posted... </cite><quote>Never heard of it</quote>This. If this board isn't even talking about it, that shows their advertising left something to be desired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/03/24 4:43:05 PM #60:	LightningStrikes posted... Also the thing about expectations is theyre entirely made up. The 2013 Tomb Raider game came out to record sales, went on to be the highest selling game in its franchise and possibly its publishers history, was highly profitable, and still came under expectations because its publisher said so. Outlaws will be fine. Squeenix is the extreme example for this, tbf. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981977239] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>LightningStrikes posted... </cite><quote>Also the thing about expectations is theyre entirely made up. The 2013 Tomb Raider game came out to record sales, went on to be the highest selling game in its franchise and possibly its publishers history, was highly profitable, and still came under expectations because its publisher said so. Outlaws will be fine.</quote>Squeenix is the extreme example for this, tbf.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/03/24 4:44:47 PM #61:	Bane_Of_Despair posted... Yea that's a fine tweet lol, they were talking about the weird "go woke go broke" gamers hassling them about the game and that you clearly get all of your news from lol I feel like that was screenshotted and not linked to see the whole conversation for a reason. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981977272] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Bane_Of_Despair posted... </cite><quote>Yea that's a fine tweet lol, they were talking about the weird "go woke go broke" gamers hassling them about the game and that you clearly get all of your news from lol</quote>I feel like that was screenshotted and not linked to see the whole conversation for a reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 09/03/24 4:46:15 PM #63:	Bane_Of_Despair posted... Yea that's a fine tweet lol, they were talking about the weird "go woke go broke" gamers hassling them about the game and that you clearly get all of your news from lol This. The "go woke go broke" weirdos who are constantly screaming about women and minorities in games do not deserve sympathy. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:981977307] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Bane_Of_Despair posted... </cite><quote>Yea that's a fine tweet lol, they were talking about the weird "go woke go broke" gamers hassling them about the game and that you clearly get all of your news from lol</quote>This.The "go woke go broke" weirdos who are constantly screaming about women and minorities in games do not deserve sympathy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VintageGin 09/03/24 4:46:49 PM #64:	UltimaterializerX posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/663200dd.jpg Just in case anyone feels bad for any of the devs. Man, so they only had that one dev working on it? Wild --- Gin Unflappable, unserious, unimportant <cite>VintageGin posted [p:981977315] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/663200dd.jpgJust in case anyone feels bad for any of the devs.</quote>Man, so they only had that one dev working on it?Wild</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 09/03/24 4:50:52 PM #66:	UltimaterializerX posted... It is not a fine tweet to insult your potential customers. Fan baiting stop being a good idea like 6 years ago. Nah it's 100% fine actually to make fun of SBI whiners and folks who simp for idiots like Critical Drinker and The Quartering. It's a little weird of you to pretend that this one dev somehow speaks for the entire team in order to give yourself an excuse to be gleeful about people losing their jobs. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:981977389] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>It is not a fine tweet to insult your potential customers. Fan baiting stop being a good idea like 6 years ago.</quote>Nah it's 100% fine actually to make fun of SBI whiners and folks who simp for idiots like Critical Drinker and The Quartering.It's a little weird of you to pretend that this one dev somehow speaks for the entire team in order to give yourself an excuse to be gleeful about people losing their jobs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 09/03/24 4:52:07 PM #67:	I wonder if there are any other unannounced hero shooters in development that decided to take a day off today and rethink. --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:981977404] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if there are any other unannounced hero shooters in development that decided to take a day off today and rethink. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 09/03/24 4:53:10 PM #68:	UltimaterializerX posted... It is not a fine tweet to insult your potential customers. Fan baiting stop being a good idea like 6 years ago. The potential customers that already say they aren't gonna buy it because it's "too woke" lol yea sure --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:981977422] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>It is not a fine tweet to insult your potential customers. Fan baiting stop being a good idea like 6 years ago.</quote>The potential customers that already say they aren't gonna buy it because it's "too woke" lol yea sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 09/03/24 5:09:29 PM #69:	Wanglicious posted... Outlaws just came out but it was kinda doomed from the start and can't help but be a flop. early on it was expected to do 8 mil, then 5, and it just came out so we don't have the hard numbers but initial reporting has something like half of Jedi Survivor at retail. Do you have a source for the Outlaws sales? --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:981977729] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Wanglicious posted... </cite><quote>Outlaws just came out but it was kinda doomed from the start and can't help but be a flop. early on it was expected to do 8 mil, then 5, and it just came out so we don't have the hard numbers but initial reporting has something like half of Jedi Survivor at retail.</quote>Do you have a source for the Outlaws sales?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 09/03/24 5:39:41 PM #71:	https://twitter.com/RossTweetsGames/status/1831025603019186466 --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981978154] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/RossTweetsGames/status/1831025603019186466</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 09/03/24 5:44:10 PM #72:	The Heaven's Gate of video games. Will be written about in decades. --- We are living our lives Abound with so much information <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:981978213] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>The Heaven's Gate of video games. Will be written about in decades.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 09/03/24 5:47:49 PM #73:	Kotetsu534 posted... The Heaven's Gate of video games. Will be written about in decades. The Jason Schreier book on it will be fantastic --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:981978272] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Kotetsu534 posted... </cite><quote>The Heaven's Gate of video games. Will be written about in decades.</quote>The Jason Schreier book on it will be fantastic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/03/24 5:48:15 PM #74:	MacArrowny posted... Do you have a source for the Outlaws sales? everyone's more or less going by the UK numbers but that's again, physical only. it's more or less this: https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1830887864403370276 as for the expectations, financial times archive to get through paywall: https://archive.is/FoQwO game just came out so we don't have a full picture (see: digital) but the current downward trend of their stock does seem to be directly correlated. whether it's stuff people know or just the usual assumptions, unclear. though without a steam release and being for free on their service, the numbers never really were going to light things up and i don't think Ubisoft ever really expected it to, they just also probably expected more. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:981978280] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>Do you have a source for the Outlaws sales?</quote>everyone's more or less going by the UK numbers but that's again, physical only. it's more or less this:https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1830887864403370276as for the expectations, financial times archive to get through paywall:https://archive.is/FoQwOgame just came out so we don't have a full picture (see: digital) but the current downward trend of their stock does seem to be directly correlated. whether it's stuff people know or just the usual assumptions, unclear. though without a steam release and being for free on their service, the numbers never really were going to light things up and i don't think Ubisoft ever really expected it to, they just also probably expected more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 09/03/24 5:50:26 PM #75:	Thanks! Wanglicious posted... though without a steam release and being for free on their service, the numbers never really were going to light things up This is true of previous Ubisoft games too, right? I know some of their recent games have sold a ton (Mirage, Far Cry 6, Valhalla as their biggest game ever, etc.). --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:981978299] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Thanks!Wanglicious posted... </cite><quote>though without a steam release and being for free on their service, the numbers never really were going to light things up</quote>This is true of previous Ubisoft games too, right? I know some of their recent games have sold a ton (Mirage, Far Cry 6, Valhalla as their biggest game ever, etc.).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 09/03/24 5:53:40 PM #76:	Kotetsu534 posted... The Heaven's Gate of video games. Will be written about in decades. I don't know about that. You're only really guaranteed to get youtube video essayists. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:981978340] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Kotetsu534 posted... </cite><quote>The Heaven's Gate of video games. Will be written about in decades.</quote>I don't know about that. You're only really guaranteed to get youtube video essayists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaveEstelle 09/03/24 5:54:46 PM #77:	The Heavens Gate of video games is my favorite since BioWare hyped Anthem as the Bob Dylan of video games. --- Quinton Bylines: TheGamer, RPG Site, Nova Crystallis, RPGFan <cite>SaveEstelle posted [p:981978352] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>The Heavens Gate of video games is my favorite since BioWare hyped Anthem as the Bob Dylan of video games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 09/03/24 6:01:33 PM #78:	Anagram posted... I don't know about that. You're only really guaranteed to get youtube video essayists. https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Sweat-Pixels-Triumphant-Turbulent/dp/0062651234?dplnkId=53230d8b-2b36-46fd-8393-3fee867df984 --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:981978431] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Anagram posted... </cite><quote>I don't know about that. You're only really guaranteed to get youtube video essayists.</quote>https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Sweat-Pixels-Triumphant-Turbulent/dp/0062651234?dplnkId=53230d8b-2b36-46fd-8393-3fee867df984</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 09/03/24 6:03:48 PM #79:	MacArrowny posted... Thanks! This is true of previous Ubisoft games too, right? I know some of their recent games have sold a ton (Mirage, Far Cry 6, Valhalla as their biggest game ever, etc.). kind of a mixed bag. they tried to go Epic + whatever the new name for uPlay is but then caved on Steam for Valhalla. Mirage and FC6 are more exclusive to those storefronts, as is Outlaws. Skull and Bones was on Steam but it could be due to the absurd dev time it had, or just plain any market's a good market because money. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:981978454] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>Thanks!This is true of previous Ubisoft games too, right? I know some of their recent games have sold a ton (Mirage, Far Cry 6, Valhalla as their biggest game ever, etc.).</quote>kind of a mixed bag. they tried to go Epic + whatever the new name for uPlay is but then caved on Steam for Valhalla. Mirage and FC6 are more exclusive to those storefronts, as is Outlaws. Skull and Bones was on Steam but it could be due to the absurd dev time it had, or just plain any market's a good market because money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 09/03/24 6:05:13 PM #80:	SaveEstelle posted... The Heavens Gate of video games is my favorite since BioWare hyped Anthem as the Bob Dylan of video games. Jesus christ I missed THAT somehow, or I blocked it from my memory --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:981978469] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>SaveEstelle posted... </cite><quote>The Heavens Gate of video games is my favorite since BioWare hyped Anthem as the Bob Dylan of video games.</quote>Jesus christ I missed THAT somehow, or I blocked it from my memory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dels 09/03/24 6:18:24 PM #81:	Xiahou_Shake posted... This is probably one of the biggest flops in video game history at this point. Eight years of work and $100+ million down the drain just to release what everyone outside the C-suite knew would be a colossal failure that ended up completely shutting down after just a couple of weeks and making barely 1% of its budget back. But why this game? Like, I don't play AAA games or action-shoot-y games, so from my PoV, yeah, this genre is oversatured, but tons of shooters and 5v5 and etc games come out all the time and they all look the same to me, this one looks generic but so do all the others, and yet most of them seem to do fine financially and people just keep playing every new one that comes out. So why did this one specifically get all the brunt of the "genre oversatured with generic copies" hate? To me it feels like it was just a narrative that caught on and once the game got labeled "a failure" it just couldn't escape due to the power of groupthink. I say this having no idea anything about the game though so it's a genuine question. <cite>Dels posted [p:981978643] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou_Shake posted... </cite><quote>This is probably one of the biggest flops in video game history at this point. Eight years of work and $100+ million down the drain just to release what everyone outside the C-suite knew would be a colossal failure that ended up completely shutting down after just a couple of weeks and making barely 1% of its budget back.</quote>But why this game? Like, I don't play AAA games or action-shoot-y games, so from my PoV, yeah, this genre is oversatured, but tons of shooters and 5v5 and etc games come out all the time and they all look the same to me, this one looks generic but so do all the others, and yet most of them seem to do fine financially and people just keep playing every new one that comes out. So why did this one specifically get all the brunt of the "genre oversatured with generic copies" hate? To me it feels like it was just a narrative that caught on and once the game got labeled "a failure" it just couldn't escape due to the power of groupthink. I say this having no idea anything about the game though so it's a genuine question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/03/24 6:23:30 PM #83:	UltimaterializerX posted... this is a candy in the coal mine for the death of live service Im all for it. Game devs the past decade: https://imgur.com/gallery/ooh-piece-of-candy-zSUHuLX --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:981978710] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>this is a candy in the coal mine for the death of live service Im all for it.</quote>Game devs the past decade:https://imgur.com/gallery/ooh-piece-of-candy-zSUHuLX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 09/03/24 6:23:56 PM #84:	Dels posted... But why this game? I think the big thing here is they tried to release this game for $40 when there's absolutely nothing that makes it stand out in any positive way - it would have had a very tough time finding a sustainable place in the market even if it was free and they they locked it behind a premium. There's a very valid question to be asked in why anyone would want to pay to take a chance on this when there's a veritable glut of free options - that all, by the way, are very insistent that they be the only one of this type of game that their players play - and I don't think anyone had a real answer for that. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:981978716] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Dels posted... </cite><quote>But why this game?</quote>I think the big thing here is they tried to release this game for $40 when there's absolutely nothing that makes it stand out in any positive way - it would have had a very tough time finding a sustainable place in the market even if it was free and they they locked it behind a premium. There's a very valid question to be asked in why anyone would want to pay to take a chance on this when there's a veritable glut of free options - that all, by the way, are very insistent that they be the only one of this type of game that their players play - and I don't think anyone had a real answer for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarThaNemesis2 09/03/24 6:37:53 PM #85:	I feel like this is less a warning and more just an obvious statement that there isn't a market for 'painfully okay Overwatch'. Just like how there wasn't a market for 'bad Smash Bros.' but Smash Ultimate still sold all the copies. A game still needs to have something going for it other than being a bad version of already available games! --- Not a stinky alien. :( Nintendo Switch Code: SW-5719-6555-8388 <cite>WarThaNemesis2 posted [p:981978873] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>I feel like this is less a warning and more just an obvious statement that there isn't a market for 'painfully okay Overwatch'.Just like how there wasn't a market for 'bad Smash Bros.' but Smash Ultimate still sold all the copies.A game still needs to have something going for it other than being a bad version of already available games!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 09/03/24 6:41:10 PM #86:	Game publishers continue to fail to learn the lesson that a single game can nearly saturate the ENTIRE market for a competitive online genre, and you really need something - a brand name, known talent, some kind of different hook or niche - to break through, and if you're just trying to do the same thing again but worse it won't work because they'll just keep playing the game they're playing instead. This is not a new lesson to learn! <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:981978908] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Game publishers continue to fail to learn the lesson that a single game can nearly saturate the ENTIRE market for a competitive online genre, and you really need something - a brand name, known talent, some kind of different hook or niche - to break through, and if you're just trying to do the same thing again but worse it won't work because they'll just keep playing the game they're playing instead. This is not a new lesson to learn!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Denji 09/03/24 6:47:42 PM #88:	FFDragon posted... https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Sweat-Pixels-Triumphant-Turbulent/dp/0062651234?dplnkId=53230d8b-2b36-46fd-8393-3fee867df984 Saw Schreier at a book talk recently and he was just giving this away. Good read, though. --- Lurker extraordinaire Former cyber monkey <cite>Denji posted [p:981978988] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>FFDragon posted... </cite><quote>https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Sweat-Pixels-Triumphant-Turbulent/dp/0062651234?dplnkId=53230d8b-2b36-46fd-8393-3fee867df984</quote>Saw Schreier at a book talk recently and he was just giving this away. Good read, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tazzyboyishere 09/03/24 6:48:52 PM #89:	Requiring a purchase to play a live service game in the current market is gonna come with a massive consumer risk. I get that there are cases of such a model song success (ie Helldivers 2), but the hubris needed to require a premium for your game with less content than its f2p direct competitors is unimaginable to me. --- http://i.imgur.com/l7xxLh1.jpg PSN/Steam - RoboQuote ; NNID - TazzyMan <cite>tazzyboyishere posted [p:981979000] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Requiring a purchase to play a live service game in the current market is gonna come with a massive consumer risk. I get that there are cases of such a model song success (ie Helldivers 2), but the hubris needed to require a premium for your game with less content than its f2p direct competitors is unimaginable to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 09/03/24 7:15:51 PM #90:	One funny thing is that we have a successful new hero shooter that just became available - Valve's Deadlock. Wanglicious posted... kind of a mixed bag. they tried to go Epic + whatever the new name for uPlay is but then caved on Steam for Valhalla. Mirage and FC6 are more exclusive to those storefronts, as is Outlaws. Skull and Bones was on Steam but it could be due to the absurd dev time it had, or just plain any market's a good market because money. Valhalla only came to Steam over 2 years after it was released. Ubisoft's done late Steam releases for several of their games. Dels posted... But why this game? Like, I don't play AAA games or action-shoot-y games, so from my PoV, yeah, this genre is oversatured, but tons of shooters and 5v5 and etc games come out all the time and they all look the same to me Do they? I feel like there are only a few hero shooters. WarThaNemesis2 posted... I feel like this is less a warning and more just an obvious statement that there isn't a market for 'painfully okay Overwatch'. Just like how there wasn't a market for 'bad Smash Bros.' but Smash Ultimate still sold all the copies. A game still needs to have something going for it other than being a bad version of already available games! good post --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:981979312] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>One funny thing is that we have a successful new hero shooter that just became available - Valve's Deadlock.Wanglicious posted... </cite><quote>kind of a mixed bag. they tried to go Epic + whatever the new name for uPlay is but then caved on Steam for Valhalla. Mirage and FC6 are more exclusive to those storefronts, as is Outlaws. Skull and Bones was on Steam but it could be due to the absurd dev time it had, or just plain any market's a good market because money.</quote>Valhalla only came to Steam over 2 years after it was released. Ubisoft's done late Steam releases for several of their games.Dels posted... </cite><quote>But why this game? Like, I don't play AAA games or action-shoot-y games, so from my PoV, yeah, this genre is oversatured, but tons of shooters and 5v5 and etc games come out all the time and they all look the same to me</quote>Do they? I feel like there are only a few hero shooters.WarThaNemesis2 posted... </cite><quote>I feel like this is less a warning and more just an obvious statement that there isn't a market for 'painfully okay Overwatch'.Just like how there wasn't a market for 'bad Smash Bros.' but Smash Ultimate still sold all the copies.A game still needs to have something going for it other than being a bad version of already available games!</quote>good post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel_R8 09/03/24 7:21:36 PM #91:	really hoping the marvel hero shooter succeeds where this failed. that one looks fun as hell --- https://i.gyazo.com/6fde58a9d13e1f9272a6d6eab35bcff7.png <cite>Accel_R8 posted [p:981979381] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>really hoping the marvel hero shooter succeeds where this failed. that one looks fun as hell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 09/03/24 7:23:36 PM #92:	Is Overwatch 2 still a big deal these days? I don't follow any of this stuff <cite>andylt posted [p:981979405] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Is Overwatch 2 still a big deal these days? I don't follow any of this stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/03/24 7:58:06 PM #93:	UltimaterializerX posted... It is not a fine tweet to insult your potential customers. Yes it is. If you buy games in order to gain an ego boost from everyone in a 100k person industry, you deserve to be insulted. Doubly so if you expect it without even buying the game at all! Even restaurant workers aren't obligated to tolerate your ego, and they actually signed up for a customer service job. Not to mention to a gamedev your purchase is worth about... 12,500x less than a typical $5 tip to a server ($0.0002/hr of entertainment vs $2.50/hr). So imagine the respect that some teen handing you onion rings at Applebee's gives you and divide that by 12500. That's what you should reasonably expect from a dev on Twitter. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:981979784] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>It is not a fine tweet to insult your potential customers.</quote>Yes it is. If you buy games in order to gain an ego boost from everyone in a 100k person industry, you deserve to be insulted. Doubly so if you expect it without even buying the game at all!Even restaurant workers aren't obligated to tolerate your ego, and they actually signed up for a customer service job. Not to mention to a gamedev your purchase is worth about... 12,500x less than a typical $5 tip to a server ($0.0002/hr of entertainment vs $2.50/hr).So imagine the respect that some teen handing you onion rings at Applebee's gives you and divide that by 12500. That's what you should reasonably expect from a dev on Twitter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/03/24 8:00:12 PM #94:	Dels posted... But why this game? Why did shooting Franz Ferdinand cause a world war? It's not a very useful question. It's a much larger issue. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:981979802] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Dels posted... </cite><quote>But why this game?</quote>Why did shooting Franz Ferdinand cause a world war? It's not a very useful question. It's a much larger issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/03/24 8:11:57 PM #95:	To put it in perspective: https://twitter.com/TheCartelDel/status/1831025765342969918 --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981979953] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>To put it in perspective:https://twitter.com/TheCartelDel/status/1831025765342969918</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 09/03/24 8:37:19 PM #96:	WarThaNemesis2 posted... I feel like this is less a warning and more just an obvious statement that there isn't a market for 'painfully okay Overwatch'. Just like how there wasn't a market for 'bad Smash Bros.' but Smash Ultimate still sold all the copies. A game still needs to have something going for it other than being a bad version of already available games! hey now what's wrong with smash ultimate Also I think the what is it, nickelodeon brawl or something? those games would be a better example of DoA smash clones --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:981980226] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>WarThaNemesis2 posted... </cite><quote>I feel like this is less a warning and more just an obvious statement that there isn't a market for 'painfully okay Overwatch'.Just like how there wasn't a market for 'bad Smash Bros.' but Smash Ultimate still sold all the copies.A game still needs to have something going for it other than being a bad version of already available games!</quote>hey now what's wrong with smash ultimateAlso I think the what is it, nickelodeon brawl or something? those games would be a better example of DoA smash clones</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 09/03/24 8:47:07 PM #97:	kevwaffles posted... To put it in perspective: https://twitter.com/TheCartelDel/status/1831025765342969918 Dev cycles are becoming so long that besides the absurdity of trying to chase trends, mortality is legitimately becoming a serious point of consideration. Like the average aged person on this board could probably only fit another ~6 games with Concord's dev cycle back-to-back within their lifetime. Even if the game was an absolute 10/10 that's just ridiculous. (And TV is having a very similar problem right now!) --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:981980343] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite><quote>To put it in perspective:https://twitter.com/TheCartelDel/status/1831025765342969918</quote>Dev cycles are becoming so long that besides the absurdity of trying to chase trends, mortality is legitimately becoming a serious point of consideration. Like the average aged person on this board could probably only fit another ~6 games with Concord's dev cycle back-to-back within their lifetime. Even if the game was an absolute 10/10 that's just ridiculous. (And TV is having a very similar problem right now!)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/03/24 8:47:37 PM #98:	Emeraldegg posted... hey now what's wrong with smash ultimate Pretty sure that's not what was meant by that --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:981980357] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Emeraldegg posted... </cite><quote>hey now what's wrong with smash ultimate</quote>Pretty sure that's not what was meant by that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand_Kirby 09/03/24 8:47:50 PM #99:	From what I hear this game actually didn't play badly, and the constantly updating storyline thing is neat for a game like this (thinking about how one big criticism of Overwatch is how the story hasn't advanced in the past 7 years). It just simply is a big ask to get players to invest money and time into something that looks like one of those fake video games you see people playing in movies. --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand_Kirby posted [p:981980362] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>From what I hear this game actually didn't play badly, and the constantly updating storyline thing is neat for a game like this (thinking about how one big criticism of Overwatch is how the story hasn't advanced in the past 7 years). It just simply is a big ask to get players to invest money and time into something that looks like one of those fake video games you see people playing in movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 09/03/24 8:50:08 PM #100:	Xiahou_Shake posted... Like the average aged person on this board could probably only fit another ~6 games with Concord's dev cycle back-to-back within their lifetime. that can't possibly be ri-- oh my god --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:981980389] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou_Shake posted... </cite><quote>Like the average aged person on this board could probably only fit another ~6 games with Concord's dev cycle back-to-back within their lifetime.</quote>that can't possibly be ri--oh my god</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 09/03/24 8:59:01 PM #101:	Xiahou_Shake posted... Like the average aged person on this board could probably only fit another ~6 games with Concord's dev cycle back-to-back within their lifetime. Genuinely horrifying, thanks for posting! --- "You're childish. What are you getting? Are you getting strawberry? Ha! That's such a childish flavor, only children eat strawberry." <cite>Kenri posted [p:981980513] in Concord go... [t:80840001]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou_Shake posted... </cite><quote>Like the average aged person on this board could probably only fit another ~6 games with Concord's dev cycle back-to-back within their lifetime.</quote>Genuinely horrifying, thanks for posting!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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