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WalkingPlague 03/29/24 4:07:46 PM #201:	murrica posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef7b6b7d.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bbd05a7a.jpg --- I may look calm, but in my head, I've just killed you three times. <cite>WalkingPlague posted [p:979629329] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>murrica posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef7b6b7d.jpg</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bbd05a7a.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zonbei 03/29/24 4:15:35 PM #202:	WalkingPlague posted... why are you so emotional? are you incapable of having a conversation without cussing? Im emotional because sexism and misogyny is a bad thing that hurts people, and I care about combating it. I think that actually, treating half of the world like shit is a bad thing people should have feelings about. I also am personally annoyed by people who say stupid shit and use disingenuous arguments. Hope that helps. Being emotional doesnt prevent you from making valid arguments. I choose to specifically combat the idea of respectability politics and that people on the left have to be constantly emotionless and polite while all you fuckers get to endlessly throw tantrums about the tiniest fucking things and throw insults around like youre upset on the playground. Yes. I am incapable of having a conversation without cussing. Go fuck yourself. --- It's a luscious mix of words and tricks, that let us bet, when we know we should have folded. <cite>Zonbei posted [p:979629447] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>WalkingPlague posted... </cite><quote>why are you so emotional? are you incapable of having a conversation without cussing?</quote>Im emotional because sexism and misogyny is a bad thing that hurts people, and I care about combating it. I think that actually, treating half of the world like shit is a bad thing people should have feelings about. I also am personally annoyed by people who say stupid shit and use disingenuous arguments. Hope that helps. Being emotional doesnt prevent you from making valid arguments. I choose to specifically combat the idea of respectability politics and that people on the left have to be constantly emotionless and polite while all you fuckers get to endlessly throw tantrums about the tiniest fucking things and throw insults around like youre upset on the playground. Yes. I am incapable of having a conversation without cussing. Go fuck yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zonbei 03/29/24 4:17:24 PM #203:	JuanCarlos1 posted... This is kinda silly. There should be space for both realistic and more stylistic characters. Imagine chun li without her iconic thunder thighs or Marcus Fenix without a big body and muscles. Fiction would be freaking boring if it tried to imitate real life all the time. MS can get fucked with this. Literally nothing here says you cant have that and that there isnt space for both. honest question: can anyone here read? Do you guys actually comprehend things, or do you just sort of glance at them and then somehow convince yourself you know what was said? --- It's a luscious mix of words and tricks, that let us bet, when we know we should have folded. <cite>Zonbei posted [p:979629477] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>This is kinda silly. There should be space for both realistic and more stylistic characters. Imagine chun li without her iconic thunder thighs or Marcus Fenix without a big body and muscles. Fiction would be freaking boring if it tried to imitate real life all the time. MS can get fucked with this.</quote>Literally nothing here says you cant have that and that there isnt space for both. honest question: can anyone here read? Do you guys actually comprehend things, or do you just sort of glance at them and then somehow convince yourself you know what was said? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/29/24 4:20:15 PM #204:	Hordes of smelly reactionaries on the Internet have had way more of a negative effect on gaming discourse than whatever this stuff is will ever have on games being made. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979629515] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Hordes of smelly reactionaries on the Internet have had way more of a negative effect on gaming discourse than whatever this stuff is will ever have on games being made. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 4:49:32 PM #205:	Zonbei posted... It wasnt put the best way, but I believe what they mean is it is not realistic to expect or pressure all women to look that way, or to portray all women in games that way. Exactly. Since my first paragraph talked specifically about models and unreasonable beauty standards that are documented to be harmful. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979629965] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Zonbei posted... </cite><quote>It wasnt put the best way, but I believe what they mean is it is not realistic to expect or pressure all women to look that way, or to portray all women in games that way.</quote>Exactly. Since my first paragraph talked specifically about models and unreasonable beauty standards that are documented to be harmful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NihonOctopus 03/29/24 4:56:33 PM #206:	I dream of a world where this wanton titty shaming doesn't exist >_> Where boobs are free like Buffalo --- >_> <cite>NihonOctopus posted [p:979630064] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>I dream of a world where this wanton titty shaming doesn't exist >_> Where boobs are free like Buffalo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThatGeminiGuy 03/29/24 4:57:29 PM #207:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] iv> <cite>ThatGeminiGuy posted [p:979630078] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> iv></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 03/29/24 5:00:56 PM #208:	DnDer posted... Exactly. Since my first paragraph talked specifically about models and unreasonable beauty standards that are documented to be harmful. Well said. This model might be an actual person, but she's a standard only a small fraction of women are likely to achieve. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:979630126] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Exactly. Since my first paragraph talked specifically about models and unreasonable beauty standards that are documented to be harmful.</quote>Well said. This model might be an actual person, but she's a standard only a small fraction of women are likely to achieve. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 5:08:00 PM #209:	Vyrulisse posted... Nobody ever complains about male characters being above 6ft tall gigachads more often than not but if a woman is a buxom beauty suddenly there are entire thinkpieces written about why it's wrong. So tired of the nonsense. Women are allowed to be sexy in videogames, they are not real life. This conversation is so fucking tired and played out I don't even want to go into details as to why there is a concentrated attack on femininity from these mega corporations and their minions. Anyone who denies it's happening is either intentionally dishonest or naive. Plenty of people have complained about unreasonable depictions of men in games and other media. Part of the reason thinkpieces get generated about women is that it's yet another documented example of objectification and unreasonable media depictions that are overall harmful to basically half the population. (The whole population if you want to stop and reflect on what negative media depictions of women set in men's minds, too.) It's another piece of kindling on the massive bonfire of sexism through the centuries. And lastly, having women not look like supermodels (or outright be supermodels) in video games is not an "attack on femininity." That's such a bullshit line of argument. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979630229] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>Nobody ever complains about male characters being above 6ft tall gigachads more often than not but if a woman is a buxom beauty suddenly there are entire thinkpieces written about why it's wrong. So tired of the nonsense. Women are allowed to be sexy in videogames, they are not real life.This conversation is so fucking tired and played out I don't even want to go into details as to why there is a concentrated attack on femininity from these mega corporations and their minions. Anyone who denies it's happening is either intentionally dishonest or naive.</quote>Plenty of people have complained about unreasonable depictions of men in games and other media.Part of the reason thinkpieces get generated about women is that it's yet another documented example of objectification and unreasonable media depictions that are overall harmful to basically half the population. (The whole population if you want to stop and reflect on what negative media depictions of women set in men's minds, too.) It's another piece of kindling on the massive bonfire of sexism through the centuries.And lastly, having women not look like supermodels (or outright be supermodels) in video games is not an "attack on femininity."That's such a bullshit line of argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 03/29/24 5:13:40 PM #210:	Another reminder that most women do not care about this, they preferring good looking women and men in gaming. It is a small subset of women who are pushing for ugly, manish, and butch women in gaming where most women are not for that. Normal people do not look like super models but dont pretend most people look ugly and unattractive either, and in gaming unless it is a realistic game or grounded in reality there probably wont be many obese or ugly looking women. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:979630314] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Another reminder that most women do not care about this, they preferring good looking women and men in gaming. It is a small subset of women who are pushing for ugly, manish, and butch women in gaming where most women are not for that.Normal people do not look like super models but dont pretend most people look ugly and unattractive either, and in gaming unless it is a realistic game or grounded in reality there probably wont be many obese or ugly looking women. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/29/24 5:15:07 PM #211:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Another reminder that most women do not care about this source? --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979630342] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite><quote>Another reminder that most women do not care about this</quote>source? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/29/24 5:15:55 PM #212:	Also, the unrealistic video game women look way different from the "unrealistic" real women. I do think the base terminology of "unrealistic" is hurting the argument being made. Since video games use highly stylized visuals to emphasize the attractiveness of certain body types, I would suggest that instead of trying to make aesthetically unappealing women (and I don't think this is the goal artists and designers acrually set out to achieve), it would be more productive to aim for aesthetically pleasing or interesting visuals of diverse sorts of women. --- "Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat <poop>! Filth is my politics! Filth is my life!" - Babs Johnson <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:979630351] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Also, the unrealistic video game women look way different from the "unrealistic" real women. I do think the base terminology of "unrealistic" is hurting the argument being made. Since video games use highly stylized visuals to emphasize the attractiveness of certain body types, I would suggest that instead of trying to make aesthetically unappealing women (and I don't think this is the goal artists and designers acrually set out to achieve), it would be more productive to aim for aesthetically pleasing or interesting visuals of diverse sorts of women. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 03/29/24 5:20:19 PM #213:	Americans are assuming their people are stupid enough to not be able to tell fiction from real world. Might as well ban all games that have guns as well. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:979630425] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Americans are assuming their people are stupid enough to not be able to tell fiction from real world. Might as well ban all games that have guns as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/29/24 5:22:43 PM #214:	Phil Spencer is currently in shambles playing the Stellar Blade demo --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:979630465] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Phil Spencer is currently in shambles playing the Stellar Blade demo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 03/29/24 5:25:49 PM #215:	Fans urge Microsoft to eat shit and die as they continue to buy PS5s at 3+x the rate of Xboxs. <cite>garan posted [p:979630527] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Fans urge Microsoft to eat shit and die as they continue to buy PS5s at 3+x the rate of Xboxs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiser1one 03/29/24 5:25:56 PM #216:	CrimsonGear80 posted... so that means every female character in every video game should look the same? Where'd I say that? I'm all for variety but we all know MS is implying what I stated would be exaggerated. Scarlet Johannson/Brie Larson and anything androgynous/muscular is probably the "normal" range for them. Someone like Christina Hendricks or Beyonc would probably be "exaggerated". --- Why is it that the world can't spell "lose" or "woman" right??? <cite>Kaiser1one posted [p:979630534] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>so that means every female character in every video game should look the same?</quote>Where'd I say that? I'm all for variety but we all know MS is implying what I stated would be exaggerated. Scarlet Johannson/Brie Larson and anything androgynous/muscular is probably the "normal" range for them. Someone like Christina Hendricks or Beyonc would probably be "exaggerated". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 03/29/24 5:27:01 PM #217:	CrimsonGear80 posted... source? The only women you see complaining are the less then attractive, and never played a game in the series before ones that are only about their agenda. Also look at what they did to the model that they based the new Fable character on in the trailer no one liked or found funny. They took a normal decent looking woman and beat her with the ugly stick for no reason when making the ingame character for no reason except to make her as unattractive as possible. This is also only being done with western developed games, asia is not putting up with this nonsense nor including it in their games. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:979630557] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>source?</quote>The only women you see complaining are the less then attractive, and never played a game in the series before ones that are only about their agenda.Also look at what they did to the model that they based the new Fable character on in the trailer no one liked or found funny. They took a normal decent looking woman and beat her with the ugly stick for no reason when making the ingame character for no reason except to make her as unattractive as possible.This is also only being done with western developed games, asia is not putting up with this nonsense nor including it in their games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 03/29/24 5:34:19 PM #218:	Zwijn posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/50f99bbf.jpg I'm tagging those who treat this as some big conspiracy. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:979630685] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Zwijn posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/50f99bbf.jpg</quote>I'm tagging those who treat this as some big conspiracy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SammyLiimex 03/29/24 5:36:07 PM #219:	Kaiganeer posted... you know what's relaxing? watching polygonal tits jiggle <cite>SammyLiimex posted [p:979630717] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>you know what's relaxing? watching polygonal tits jiggle</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NihonOctopus 03/29/24 5:40:48 PM #220:	Video game titties are serious business and the future of society is determined by whether those titties are small or large. --- >_> <cite>NihonOctopus posted [p:979630813] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Video game titties are serious business and the future of society is determined by whether those titties are small or large. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 5:42:40 PM #221:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... It is a small subset of women who are pushing for ugly, manish, and butch women in gaming where most women are not for that. This... is not happening. You're wildly mischaracterizing the entire argument to think you're making some kind of rhetorical point. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979630848] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite><quote>It is a small subset of women who are pushing for ugly, manish, and butch women in gaming where most women are not for that.</quote>This... is not happening. You're wildly mischaracterizing the entire argument to think you're making some kind of rhetorical point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_rowan 03/29/24 6:00:25 PM #222:	I think this is largely a matter of the tone of the game. If the game is attempting to be serious and grounded, it's fine to have characters of diverse body proportions, but there should be some parallels to real life in that diversity, rather than everyone having super sexualized bodies, unless you're in a setting where there would be reason for this to be different. Characters who perform feats of athleticism should be fit, characters who use sex appeal as a tool for themselves should look that way, and so on, but you should be able to go into an office building and be greeted by a secretary or administrative assistant who is there because they are competent and professional, not one who reinforces stereotypes. But if you're in a setting where everything is absolutely ridiculous and over-the-top, it's fine to just make everyone hot. If your game has guys with ridiculous blue hair and fifteen belts, I really don't think people should be offended if they have an open shirt and toned chest. Similarly, if the women can teleport around throw kicks so fast their legs turn into blurs, I don't think there's really room to complain about an unrealistic bust size. --- "That is why war is so tragic. To win means to make victims of your opponents and give birth to hatred." - Kratos Aurion, Tales of Symphonia <cite>the_rowan posted [p:979631153] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>I think this is largely a matter of the tone of the game. If the game is attempting to be serious and grounded, it's fine to have characters of diverse body proportions, but there should be some parallels to real life in that diversity, rather than everyone having super sexualized bodies, unless you're in a setting where there would be reason for this to be different. Characters who perform feats of athleticism should be fit, characters who use sex appeal as a tool for themselves should look that way, and so on, but you should be able to go into an office building and be greeted by a secretary or administrative assistant who is there because they are competent and professional, not one who reinforces stereotypes.But if you're in a setting where everything is absolutely ridiculous and over-the-top, it's fine to just make everyone hot. If your game has guys with ridiculous blue hair and fifteen belts, I really don't think people should be offended if they have an open shirt and toned chest. Similarly, if the women can teleport around throw kicks so fast their legs turn into blurs, I don't think there's really room to complain about an unrealistic bust size. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
murrica 03/29/24 6:11:29 PM #223:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... The only women you see complaining are the less then attractive, and never played a game in the series before ones that are only about their agenda. Well, that's neckbeardy as fuck. --- http://i.imgur.com/lC4mGIT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/rZwMEQe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ldsBIPv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/enXxUHa.gif <cite>murrica posted [p:979631309] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite><quote>The only women you see complaining are the less then attractive, and never played a game in the series before ones that are only about their agenda.</quote>Well, that's neckbeardy as fuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/29/24 6:14:40 PM #224:	Kaiser1one posted... Where'd I say that? why else would you bring it up? RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... nothing that resembles a source k, got it --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979631370] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Kaiser1one posted... </cite><quote>Where'd I say that?</quote>why else would you bring it up?RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite><quote>nothing that resembles a source</quote>k, got it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pororin 03/29/24 6:15:26 PM #225:	@NeonBoobs <cite>Pororin posted [p:979631382] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>@NeonBoobs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/29/24 6:17:58 PM #226:	CrimsonGear80 posted... k, got it No, but you see he called everyone you agree with ugly. He is the Chad. You are supposed to cry and bow down to his majesty as the one true belief. Pororin posted... @NeonBoobs Purg'd + too low of Karma to post here. He's using another account right now. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979631419] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>k, got it</quote>No, but you see he called everyone you agree with ugly. He is the Chad. You are supposed to cry and bow down to his majesty as the one true belief.Pororin posted... </cite><quote>@NeonBoobs</quote>Purg'd + too low of Karma to post here. He's using another account right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 03/29/24 6:23:47 PM #227:	people that have sexual attachments to videogame characters are weird af, especially if they are adults, but companies are also weird af if they are trying to police away certain representations/body types. the best solution is for game makers to make whatever they want and consumers to buy the products they want. policing the point of creation is just weird and trashy just like the horny gamer archetype --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:979631491] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>people that have sexual attachments to videogame characters are weird af, especially if they are adults, but companies are also weird af if they are trying to police away certain representations/body types. the best solution is for game makers to make whatever they want and consumers to buy the products they want. policing the point of creation is just weird and trashy just like the horny gamer archetype </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiser1one 03/29/24 6:29:14 PM #228:	the_rowan posted... But if you're in a setting where everything is absolutely ridiculous and over-the-top, it's fine to just make everyone hot. If your game has guys with ridiculous blue hair and fifteen belts, I really don't think people should be offended if they have an open shirt and toned chest. Similarly, if the women can teleport around throw kicks so fast their legs turn into blurs, I don't think there's really room to complain about an unrealistic bust size. Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being toned and open chested. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ripped and shredded till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being busty or thick thighs or plump all around? Suddenly, cries of "not realistic", male gaze (never mind women like this stuff too), offensive to women. And when you say anything against that, you're a "coomer"/porn addict. --- Why is it that the world can't spell "lose" or "woman" right??? <cite>Kaiser1one posted [p:979631552] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>the_rowan posted... </cite><quote>But if you're in a setting where everything is absolutely ridiculous and over-the-top, it's fine to just make everyone hot. If your game has guys with ridiculous blue hair and fifteen belts, I really don't think people should be offended if they have an open shirt and toned chest. Similarly, if the women can teleport around throw kicks so fast their legs turn into blurs, I don't think there's really room to complain about an unrealistic bust size.</quote>Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being toned and open chested. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ripped and shredded till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being busty or thick thighs or plump all around? Suddenly, cries of "not realistic", male gaze (never mind women like this stuff too), offensive to women. And when you say anything against that, you're a "coomer"/porn addict. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiser1one 03/29/24 6:32:25 PM #229:	andel posted... people that have sexual attachments to videogame characters are weird af, especially if they are adults, but companies are also weird af if they are trying to police away certain representations/body types. the best solution is for game makers to make whatever they want and consumers to buy the products they want. policing the point of creation is just weird and trashy just like the horny gamer archetype Azur Lane and games like it have proven if you make it to where people want to ** your characters then you will be given money. Obviously, you have to have inviting gameplay as well but sex sells and these games prove that. Being sexually attracted to VG characters is completely normal. It's only in the last few years where people are suddenly deeming it as weird or that you're a porn addict/coomer/. --- Why is it that the world can't spell "lose" or "woman" right??? <cite>Kaiser1one posted [p:979631597] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite><quote>people that have sexual attachments to videogame characters are weird af, especially if they are adults, but companies are also weird af if they are trying to police away certain representations/body types. the best solution is for game makers to make whatever they want and consumers to buy the products they want. policing the point of creation is just weird and trashy just like the horny gamer archetype</quote>Azur Lane and games like it have proven if you make it to where people want to ** your characters then you will be given money. Obviously, you have to have inviting gameplay as well but sex sells and these games prove that. Being sexually attracted to VG characters is completely normal. It's only in the last few years where people are suddenly deeming it as weird or that you're a porn addict/coomer/. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiser1one 03/29/24 6:33:20 PM #230:	CrimsonGear80 posted... why else would you bring it up? Why would I bring up a friend's body type that is relevant to how MS would deem as "exaggerated"? --- Why is it that the world can't spell "lose" or "woman" right??? <cite>Kaiser1one posted [p:979631606] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>why else would you bring it up?</quote>Why would I bring up a friend's body type that is relevant to how MS would deem as "exaggerated"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 6:34:50 PM #231:	Fun Fact: after having their post selectively targeted and marked, and catching a suspension, Zonbei is done with this place. Why are we driving good people out of the community? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979631629] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Fun Fact: after having their post selectively targeted and marked, and catching a suspension, Zonbei is done with this place.Why are we driving good people out of the community? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-ZIO- 03/29/24 6:35:04 PM #232:	I would honestly prefer they tone down the sex appeal. I don't know if it's cause I'm asexual or almost 40 years old, but seeing exaggerated proportions make me cringe and embarrassed to even be playing a game with that in it. --- (He/Him) <cite>-ZIO- posted [p:979631631] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>I would honestly prefer they tone down the sex appeal. I don't know if it's cause I'm asexual or almost 40 years old, but seeing exaggerated proportions make me cringe and embarrassed to even be playing a game with that in it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 03/29/24 6:35:47 PM #233:	Pororin posted... @NeonBoobs His alt is already in the topic. You think NihonOctopus would be anyone but Neon? andel posted... people that have sexual attachments to videogame characters are weird af, especially if they are adults, but companies are also weird af if they are trying to police away certain representations/body types. the best solution is for game makers to make whatever they want and consumers to buy the products they want. policing the point of creation is just weird and trashy just like the horny gamer archetype No one is "policing" anything though. It's just a part of their guidelines designed to help developers make their games more inclusive. Nothing about it suggests it's mandatory. People here are just drawing their own conclusions and interpreting it as Microsoft forcing "ugly women" into games. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:979631640] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Pororin posted... </cite><quote>@NeonBoobs</quote>His alt is already in the topic. You think NihonOctopus would be anyone but Neon?andel posted... </cite><quote>people that have sexual attachments to videogame characters are weird af, especially if they are adults, but companies are also weird af if they are trying to police away certain representations/body types. the best solution is for game makers to make whatever they want and consumers to buy the products they want. policing the point of creation is just weird and trashy just like the horny gamer archetype</quote>No one is "policing" anything though. It's just a part of their guidelines designed to help developers make their games more inclusive. Nothing about it suggests it's mandatory.People here are just drawing their own conclusions and interpreting it as Microsoft forcing "ugly women" into games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/29/24 6:36:14 PM #234:	Kaiser1one posted... Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being toned and open chested. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ripped and shredded till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being busty or thick thighs or plump all around? Suddenly, cries of "not realistic", male gaze (never mind women like this stuff too), offensive to women. And when you say anything against that, you're a "coomer"/porn addict. Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being fat and not attractive. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ugly and lack any sex appeal till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being fat or even slightly less than Aphrodite? Suddenly, cries of "sex erasure", male gaze (never mind men can also not be raging misogynists), offensive to men. And when you say anything against that, you're "removing all sexiness from all media ever" and "forcing everyone to be ugly." --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979631651] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Kaiser1one posted... </cite><quote>Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being toned and open chested. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ripped and shredded till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being busty or thick thighs or plump all around? Suddenly, cries of "not realistic", male gaze (never mind women like this stuff too), offensive to women. And when you say anything against that, you're a "coomer"/porn addict.</quote>Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being fat and not attractive. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ugly and lack any sex appeal till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being fat or even slightly less than Aphrodite? Suddenly, cries of "sex erasure", male gaze (never mind men can also not be raging misogynists), offensive to men. And when you say anything against that, you're "removing all sexiness from all media ever" and "forcing everyone to be ugly." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 6:41:49 PM #235:	Kaiser1one posted... Why would I bring up a friend's body type that is relevant to how MS would deem as "exaggerated"? "Here's a random statistical outlier anecdote that totally happened trust me bro," is not relevant. Even if the person you described at 5'4" and G-cupped exists, they're still a statistical outlier and represent (for most women) an unattainable and exaggerated figure. Yes, real women can look like that. Most of them won't. Promoting that as the default for video games or other media to consume has always been the problem. Not that she exists (I still doubt you, but let's say she does, for the sake of argument) is any kind of problem, but that she's the only kind that people want to exist in video games is a problem. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979631733] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Kaiser1one posted... </cite><quote>Why would I bring up a friend's body type that is relevant to how MS would deem as "exaggerated"?</quote>"Here's a random statistical outlier anecdote that totally happened trust me bro," is not relevant.Even if the person you described at 5'4" and G-cupped exists, they're still a statistical outlier and represent (for most women) an unattainable and exaggerated figure.Yes, real women can look like that. Most of them won't. Promoting that as the default for video games or other media to consume has always been the problem.Not that she exists (I still doubt you, but let's say she does, for the sake of argument) is any kind of problem, but that she's the only kind that people want to exist in video games is a problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/29/24 6:42:57 PM #236:	I mean, okay, real talk: there are no fighters with E cups. You burn fat by fighting and boobs are fat. I mean, there are girthy athletes (such as sumo and other competitive sports of a similar nature), but those individuals are big all around. Not just in the chest area. That said, there are people with dynamite dimensions in real life. I have a feeling that they're not allowed to join the games regardless of whether or not they're physically active. "Realistic" means there are four body types: muscular, fat, petite, and modest/average. You can strike a line through voluptuous because that type is a sexist male myth. It's a shame to see this shit strike back just as soon as studios were starting to ease up on it. But Microsoft can do what Microsoft wants to do. I don't have to buy any of their games. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979631750] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>I mean, okay, real talk: there are no fighters with E cups. You burn fat by fighting and boobs are fat. I mean, there are girthy athletes (such as sumo and other competitive sports of a similar nature), but those individuals are big all around. Not just in the chest area.That said, there are people with dynamite dimensions in real life. I have a feeling that they're not allowed to join the games regardless of whether or not they're physically active. "Realistic" means there are four body types: muscular, fat, petite, and modest/average. You can strike a line through voluptuous because that type is a sexist male myth.It's a shame to see this shit strike back just as soon as studios were starting to ease up on it. But Microsoft can do what Microsoft wants to do. I don't have to buy any of their games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 6:43:02 PM #237:	ellis123 posted... Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being fat and not attractive. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ugly and lack any sex appeal till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being fat or even slightly less than Aphrodite? Suddenly, cries of "sex erasure", male gaze (never mind men can also not be raging misogynists), offensive to men. And when you say anything against that, you're "removing all sexiness from all media ever" and "forcing everyone to be ugly." Also this. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979631751] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being fat and not attractive. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ugly and lack any sex appeal till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being fat or even slightly less than Aphrodite? Suddenly, cries of "sex erasure", male gaze (never mind men can also not be raging misogynists), offensive to men. And when you say anything against that, you're "removing all sexiness from all media ever" and "forcing everyone to be ugly."</quote>Also this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 03/29/24 6:52:39 PM #238:	DnDer posted... she's the only kind that people want to exist in video games is a problem. Nobody had ever said this. --- Show me the Champion of Liiiiight, I'll show you the Herald of Darkness! <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:979631893] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>she's the only kind that people want to exist in video games is a problem.</quote>Nobody had ever said this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 03/29/24 6:58:49 PM #239:	dave_is_slick posted... Nobody had ever said this. UAZ and Riki immediately come to mind as people who've been flooding the thread with that take. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:979631980] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite><quote>Nobody had ever said this.</quote>UAZ and Riki immediately come to mind as people who've been flooding the thread with that take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 03/29/24 7:03:48 PM #240:	DnDer posted... Fun Fact: after having their post selectively targeted and marked, and catching a suspension, Zonbei is done with this place. Why are we driving good people out of the community? Seriously? He's one of the good ones. Shame when there are people posting utter drivel who are still here. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. <cite>ai123 posted [p:979632060] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Fun Fact: after having their post selectively targeted and marked, and catching a suspension, Zonbei is done with this place.Why are we driving good people out of the community?</quote>Seriously?He's one of the good ones. Shame when there are people posting utter drivel who are still here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 03/29/24 7:33:21 PM #241:	dave_is_slick posted... Nobody had ever said this. People frequently complain when they think a woman isn't hot enough. Like how they complained about Aloy and the protagonist of the new Fable game. Meanwhile, no one has ever said we can't have attractive female characters in video games. Just that it would be nice if we had more who aren't. --- "It's Brockin' time." Erin Brockovich, Erin Brockovich <cite>action52 posted [p:979632477] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite><quote>Nobody had ever said this.</quote>People frequently complain when they think a woman isn't hot enough. Like how they complained about Aloy and the protagonist of the new Fable game. Meanwhile, no one has ever said we can't have attractive female characters in video games. Just that it would be nice if we had more who aren't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 03/29/24 7:36:44 PM #242:	DnDer posted... UAZ and Riki immediately come to mind as people who've been flooding the thread with that take. So are we supposed to take chuds seriously or not? --- Show me the Champion of Liiiiight, I'll show you the Herald of Darkness! <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:979632525] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>UAZ and Riki immediately come to mind as people who've been flooding the thread with that take.</quote>So are we supposed to take chuds seriously or not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/29/24 7:38:22 PM #243:	dave_is_slick posted... So are we supposed to take chuds seriously or not? In the same way that we are supposed to take people who actively deny that others are able to read between the lines under the guise of "But that's not what they literally said!!!!" --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979632547] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite><quote>So are we supposed to take chuds seriously or not?</quote>In the same way that we are supposed to take people who actively deny that others are able to read between the lines under the guise of "But that's not what they literally said!!!!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/29/24 7:40:06 PM #244:	Kaiser1one posted... Why would I bring up a friend's body type that is relevant to how MS would deem as "exaggerated"? they specifically listed your friends measurements as "exaggerated"? where? --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Robocop: Rogue City (PS5), Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979632568] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Kaiser1one posted... </cite><quote>Why would I bring up a friend's body type that is relevant to how MS would deem as "exaggerated"?</quote>they specifically listed your friends measurements as "exaggerated"? where? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 03/29/24 7:41:09 PM #245:	ellis123 posted... In the same way that we are supposed to take people who actively deny that others are able to read between the lines under the guise of "But that's not what they literally said!!!!" Words have meaning. And that didn't answer the question. --- Show me the Champion of Liiiiight, I'll show you the Herald of Darkness! <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:979632581] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>In the same way that we are supposed to take people who actively deny that others are able to read between the lines under the guise of "But that's not what they literally said!!!!"</quote>Words have meaning. And that didn't answer the question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 03/29/24 7:42:09 PM #246:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fa76f01c.jpg --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:979632599] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fa76f01c.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 03/29/24 7:45:50 PM #247:	dave_is_slick posted... Words have meaning. Yes, hence why people are able to read into them. It's highly reductive to act like people can't have a meaning hidden within words, a common tactic amongst the chud populace. Enough so that we even got a Youtube video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4 --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979632645] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted... </cite><quote>Words have meaning.</quote>Yes, hence why people are able to read into them. It's highly reductive to act like people can't have a meaning hidden within words, a common tactic amongst the chud populace.Enough so that we even got a Youtube video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NihonOctopus 03/29/24 7:48:37 PM #248:	Wait what the heck. What did Zonbei post to get suspended? --- >_> <cite>NihonOctopus posted [p:979632695] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>Wait what the heck. What did Zonbei post to get suspended? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 03/29/24 7:51:13 PM #250:	NihonOctopus posted... Wait what the heck. What did Zonbei post to get suspended? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80733478?page=3#195 Yes, the fact that the post that they are quoting is gone (which makes me assume it is what got modded) is wild. We really do have a problem with how bad the horniness has gotten. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:979632734] in MS urges d... [t:80733478]...</cite> <quote>NihonOctopus posted... </cite><quote>Wait what the heck. What did Zonbei post to get suspended?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80733478?page=3#195Yes, the fact that the post that they are quoting is gone (which makes me assume it is what got modded) is wild. We really do have a problem with how bad the horniness has gotten. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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