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DrizztLink
04/04/24 7:35:30 PM
#351:


Finis-XII posted...
Yeah, no...I don't buy it.
That's certainly a bold stance when confronted with actual factual reality.

Let's see how it works for you.

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 7:42:15 PM
#352:


The sheer drama and outrage some people feel at a list of suggestions that were written in an attempt to see more diverse characters on their platform is pretty sad but also predictable.

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deoxxys
04/04/24 8:14:17 PM
#353:


Crimsoness posted...
Congrats! You don't have have image problems because of the pressures of media. Your experience is not the experience of everyone on Earth.
Yes we can't have representation of women with double D's because it might hurt somebody's Feefees

https://streamable.com/381vi0

Tara Strong she's gorgeous and has an amazing voice and I had no idea she was armed with such heavy ballistics.

How absurd it it is to claim a woman like this shouldn't exist

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DrizztLink
04/04/24 8:16:46 PM
#354:


deoxxys posted...
Yes we can't have representation of women with double D's because it might hurt somebody's Feefees
That post was talking about you and the other guy, not Tara Strong.

Literally aimed directly at you.

Try again.

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deoxxys
04/04/24 8:20:08 PM
#355:


DrizztLink posted...
That post was talking about you and the other guy, not Tara Strong.

Literally aimed directly at you.

Try again.
But that's the subject matter in case you haven't realized. It's that attractive women just shouldn't exist in video games because it'll hurt somebody's self-image even though these women with these body types exist in real life. I swear people with this mindset must be like an ostrich with their head in the sand when they go to the beach or the pool.

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DrizztLink
04/04/24 8:20:45 PM
#356:


deoxxys posted...
But that's the subject matter in case you haven't realized.
Please keep dodging just because you know the previous poster is correct.

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deoxxys
04/04/24 8:23:18 PM
#357:


DrizztLink posted...
Please keep dodging just because you know the previous poster is correct.
They're trying to make the problem of the minority into the majority. People with those issues just need to go see professional help not have the entire video game industry catered for them.

"Well well, bbbbut not everyone character needs to be a sex doll eitherrrrr!"

No just a handful would be nice. You know so it doesn't seem like developers and publishers come across as being terrified of cleavage.

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DrizztLink
04/04/24 8:27:05 PM
#358:


DrizztLink posted...
Please keep dodging just because you know the previous poster is correct.


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deoxxys
04/04/24 8:28:21 PM
#359:


Now you're just trolling I tried to go back and see if I was missing out on something and I wasn't.

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 8:29:45 PM
#360:


I'm not sure how advice advising designing characters without exaggerated proportions means that attractive video game characters can't exist.

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CSCA33
04/04/24 8:46:27 PM
#361:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm not sure how advice advising designing characters without exaggerated proportions means that attractive video game characters can't exist.
Shhh, dont distract them while theyre in the thick of battle against a cadre of strawmen

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Cynrascal
04/04/24 9:20:52 PM
#362:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm not sure how advice advising designing characters without exaggerated proportions means that attractive video game characters can't exist.

They can both exist. Just don't act like you're doing the world a favor when you do.

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 9:48:33 PM
#363:


Cynrascal posted...
They can both exist. Just don't act like you're doing the world a favor when you do.

Who is doing that

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AnsestralRecall
04/04/24 9:56:49 PM
#364:


wow, microsoft doing something good for once

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deoxxys
04/04/24 10:03:57 PM
#365:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm not sure how advice advising designing characters without exaggerated proportions means that attractive video game characters can't exist.
That'd be okay if it weren't for the fact that their idea of exaggerated proportions are delusional.

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Finis-XII
04/04/24 10:21:06 PM
#366:


DrizztLink posted...
That's certainly a bold stance when confronted with actual factual reality.

Let's see how it works for you.
Works just fine, thanks? I still stand by what I said. The gaming and entertainment industries are not your therapists. It's not their job to coddle people's body image insecurities. Work on that shit yourselves.

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Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 10:41:02 PM
#367:


deoxxys posted...
That'd be okay if it weren't for the fact that their idea of exaggerated proportions are delusional.

Do you mean Microsoft?

What's an example that their idea of exaggerated proportions are delusional?

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AnsestralRecall
04/04/24 11:52:29 PM
#368:


Finis-XII posted...
Works just fine, thanks? I still stand by what I said. The gaming and entertainment industries are not your therapists. It's not their job to coddle people's body image insecurities. Work on that shit yourselves.

what an unhinged post

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Finis-XII
04/04/24 11:58:15 PM
#369:


AnsestralRecall posted...
what an unhinged post
Nah.

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Punished_Blinx
04/05/24 12:01:21 AM
#370:


What if the entertainment industries are aware of the potential negative impacts and are making changes on their own accord in an attempt to make a more positive impact from their work.

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Revelation34
04/05/24 12:04:21 AM
#371:


Punished_Blinx posted...
For men it's hard to avoid being self-conscious about balding. Is it really hard to believe that media has impacted this perception?


Yeah we need more bald men in fictional media like Kratos.

Punished_Blinx posted...
What if the entertainment industries are aware of the potential negative impacts and are making changes on their own accord in an attempt to make a more positive impact from their work.


You mean like when a troll who never played the game tweeted at Ubisoft over Assassin's Creed Valhalla about a bandit burn victim?

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Punished_Blinx
04/05/24 12:17:23 AM
#372:


Revelation34 posted...
You mean like when a troll who never played the game tweeted at Ubisoft over Assassin's Creed Valhalla about a bandit burn victim?

I'm not really sure what an internet troll has to do with companies making these decisions on their own accord

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DnDer
04/05/24 1:21:37 AM
#373:


deoxxys posted...
It's that attractive women just shouldn't exist in video games because it'll hurt somebody's self-image even though these women with these body types exist in real life.

No one's said this. You're making a straw man instead of addressing a radically more nuanced position.

That's just a day that ends with y, though, for you.

deoxxys posted...
I swear people with this mindset must be like an ostrich with their head in the sand when they go to the beach or the pool.

You have no self-awareness. And I think it's deliberate. This is your gimmick. I hope it's a gimmick and not who you are in real life, anyway.

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DnDer
04/05/24 1:26:11 AM
#374:


Finis-XII posted...
It's not their job to coddle people's body image insecurities.

"Go be depressed elsewhere. I need my spank material, and any other media that isn't that leaves me uncomfortable."

Why is asking for a diverse representation of body types in the face of an onslaught of negative media portrayals of unrealistic body types that's proven to injure mental health in millions so terrifying to you?

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Finis-XII
04/05/24 2:57:20 AM
#376:


DnDer posted...
"Go be depressed elsewhere. I need my spank material, and any other media that isn't that leaves me uncomfortable."

Why is asking for a diverse representation of body types in the face of an onslaught of negative media portrayals of unrealistic body types that's proven to injure mental health in millions so terrifying to you?
Talk about beating up strawmen, lol. Why is it always about "spank material" with you people? Anyone and everyone with access to the internet can find more porn to wack at than you can live long enough to do with. And if we want it in games, there's plenty of them on Steam or elsewhere to find. That's not the issue.

People like unrealistic looking characters. People like attractive characters. People like unrealistically attractive characters, and they like playing as them in video games. People like sex appeal, even if it's not pornographic in nature. None of these games nor the people who make or enjoy them is telling mentally ill depressed people that they have to look like those characters to be beautiful or attractive. And I personally prefer to not have boring, bland, "realistic", and/or ugly characters (and art direction in general) in my games and entertainment, just as any other normal people would. Un-sexy and unappealing will never be popular or profitable. That's all I'm saying.

Also, nothing you're pushing here is terrifying to me at all. Aesthetically pleasing characters in video games will always exist and be preferred, and there's nothing you're gonna do to change that.

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Mr_Karate_II
04/05/24 2:59:51 AM
#377:


This topic is a still going?

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viewmaster_pi
04/05/24 3:17:24 AM
#378:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
This topic is a still going?
yes mario

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deoxxys
04/05/24 3:29:38 AM
#379:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Do you mean Microsoft?

What's an example that their idea of exaggerated proportions are delusional?
Like if I think of exaggerated proportions I'm thinking of a woman with massive milkers.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1f451866.jpg

Industry standards version of exaggerated proportions meanwhile:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/ced81040.jpg

The above is not exaggerated but pretty common and you can find thousands of women with these proportions in everyday life just with more clothes on.

Pretty sure I heard that the point of giving these developers these guidelines is to start transforming the companies at their core to do the job of consulting firms like SBI so they don't have to pay them but can still get funded.

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deoxxys
04/05/24 3:31:58 AM
#380:


Finis-XII posted...
Talk about beating up strawmen, lol. Why is it always about "spank material" with you people? Anyone and everyone with access to the internet can find more porn to wack at than you can live long enough to do with. And if we want it in games, there's plenty of them on Steam or elsewhere to find. That's not the issue.

People like attractive characters. People like unrealistically attractive characters, and they like playing as them in video games. People like sex appeal, even if it's not pornographic in nature.

And I personally prefer to not have boring, bland, "realistic", and/or ugly characters (and art direction in general) in my games and entertainment, just as any other normal people would. Un-sexy and unappealing will never be popular or profitable. That's all I'm saying.
I think you found a way to say what I've been saying but better.

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DnDer
04/05/24 4:13:51 AM
#381:


Finis-XII posted...
Talk about beating up strawmen,

It's not a strawman. It's your literal subtext.

Finis-XII posted...
People like unrealistic looking characters. People like attractive characters. People like unrealistically attractive characters, and they like playing as them in video games. People like sex appeal

Finis-XII posted...
Un-sexy and unappealing will never be popular or profitable.

Finis-XII posted...
Aesthetically pleasing characters in video games will always exist and be preferred,

Every time you open your mouth, it's to repeat how you need hot women to look at in your games, and that people who have a problem just need to go die in a fire and stop asking for healthy depictions of people.

It's not shitting up games to ask to see more Jades, Faiths, or Nilins. These are women in games who are both attractive and look relatively normal and healthy. Or at least in the realm of achievable. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more examples.

But you and deo just keep on watching 2B climb that ladder and pretending you're not being toxic or problematic, because you just want something "attractive" to look at and everything else is just wokeness shitting up gaming.

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Punished_Blinx
04/05/24 4:21:50 AM
#382:


deoxxys posted...
Like if I think of exaggerated proportions I'm thinking of a woman with massive milkers.

I didn't ask what you think.

deoxxys posted...
The above is not exaggerated but pretty common and you can find thousands of women with these proportions in everyday life just with more clothes on.

So they're not examples of anything.

deoxxys posted...
Pretty sure I heard that the point of giving these developers these guidelines is to start transforming the companies at their core to do the job of consulting firms like SBI so they don't have to pay them but can still get funded.

Where did you 'pretty sure you heard that' from?

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Revelation34
04/05/24 5:36:59 AM
#383:


Punished_Blinx posted...


I'm not really sure what an internet troll has to do with companies making these decisions on their own accord


They will change it for the minority. It was literally one person who made a story up and Ubisoft changed it for no reason.

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Ragtag28
04/05/24 5:51:04 AM
#384:


Guide posted...
That's stupid. Shut up M$, just because you're micro and soft doesn't mean I can't be macro and hard.
That joke was so bad that it killed my high. Hope your proud of yourself.

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Revelation34
04/05/24 6:02:34 AM
#385:


Ragtag28 posted...

That joke was so bad that it killed my high. Hope your proud of yourself.


His what?

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Pororin
04/05/24 8:24:11 AM
#386:


Revelation34 posted...
His what?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f28cab48.jpg
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Ragtag28
04/05/24 9:58:48 AM
#387:


Pororin posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f28cab48.jpg
I had an edible.

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