Current Events > MS urges devs not to create female characters w/exaggerated body proportions

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ellis123 posted...

Well, that's the thing; nobody is offended at the men being fat and not attractive. It's only the women that are complained about and censored to a degree. Men can be ugly and lack any sex appeal till the cows come home; nobody will complain. A woman being fat or even slightly less than Aphrodite? Suddenly, cries of "sex erasure", male gaze (never mind men can also not be raging misogynists), offensive to men. And when you say anything against that, you're "removing all sexiness from all media ever" and "forcing everyone to be ugly."

I would actually love to be able to CAC a fat person. But devs don't make em. Put them in a loin cloth too. Give me my fats, devs! So you agree; the women are what get censored. Men can be ugly but usually only non-MC's are; same with women. The heck is "sex erasure"? Then again, sex was okay with Abby. What's women enjoying fanservice and attractive people got to do with misogyny? Pokemon GO recently started updating character models. The women are what are getting the article attentions but the men also suffered uglification for users. Forcing everyone to be ugly; indeed.

CrimsonGear80 posted...

they specifically listed your friends measurements as "exaggerated"? where?

Page 5.5; didn't you see?

zonbei has gotten purgatory before multiple times, they will be back eventually

Kaiser1one posted...

I would actually love to be able to CAC a fat person. But devs don't make em. Put them in a loin cloth too. Give me my fats, devs! So you agree; the women are what get censored. Men can be ugly but usually only non-MC's are; same with women. The heck is "sex erasure"? Then again, sex was okay with Abby. What's women enjoying fanservice and attractive people got to do with misogyny? Pokemon GO recently started updating character models. The women are what are getting the article attentions but the men also suffered uglification for users. Forcing everyone to be ugly; indeed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/26e47138.jpg

Page 5.5; didn't you see?

I asked where MICROSOFT listed them, not YOU.

Some helpful graphics for our users -

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/33db2501.jpg

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CSCA33 posted...

Some helpful graphics for our users -

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/33db2501.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e42641e.jpg

I appreciate the attempt to educate, but most of the people we're arguing with just mock stuff like that.

CSCA33 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e42641e.jpg

Wait, so if I see boobs in a video game, I might consider self-harm / suicidal ideation?

<_<

FortuneCookie posted...

Wait, so if I see boobs in a video game, I might consider self-harm / suicidal ideation?

<_<

No, those are the effects it can have on women

Vyrulisse posted...

Nobody ever complains about male characters being above 6ft tall gigachads more often than not but if a woman is a buxom beauty suddenly there are entire thinkpieces written about why it's wrong. So tired of the nonsense. Women are allowed to be sexy in videogames, they are not real life.

This conversation is so fucking tired and played out I don't even want to go into details as to why there is a concentrated attack on femininity from these mega corporations and their minions. Anyone who denies it's happening is either intentionally dishonest or naive.

..that has been complained about many times over the last few years. TONS of people have pointed out that the hollywood/media portrayal of mens' bodies is harmful to boys and young men.

FortuneCookie posted...

Wait, so if I see boobs in a video game, I might consider self-harm / suicidal ideation?

<_<

Oedipus saw his mom's boobs once and stabbed his eyes out. Imagine if you saw a video game boob less hot than Oedipus's mom.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/716af26a.jpg

Mass media regularly presents pervading images of masculinity, portraying real men as aggressive, physically strong and always in control of their emotions and work. In particular, the movie industry is a prime perpetrator of hegemonic masculinity which feeds the global culture with an unlimited stream of violent male idols.

Toxic masculinity is deeply rooted within all societies and can easily be credited for many material and immaterial destructions seen today. Male youth [are] bombarded by menacing representations through all the previously mentioned mediums that characterize men who reveal their feelings as weak, spineless and unmanly. Such depictions engrain into boys minds this illusive idea of a need to uphold a facade of ruthlessness in the fact of life as they know it. They are taught not to wither at anything, not to show any signs of weakness, to grow cold; being stripped away from those attributes that make one human. Boys are brought up with the notion that they must swallow a cry because instead of being asked about the problem, they are told their reaction is the problem. Consequently, you find these boys growing, only in shape. You see men who are still young boys that do not know how to handle the reality of raw emotions, the reality of being human.

Men are socialized since birth to feel entitled to the female body. The media depicts women as prizes to be won by the male hero of the story, no matter how rude, condescending or undeserving he is or whether the woman even likes him. For instance, we see this as a repeating pattern in romantic comedies such as Say Anything, Crazy, Stupid, Love, 500 Days of Summer and numerous others. An underlying theme these films tend to share is that the little guy will overcome great odds to get what he wantswith just enough persistence, hell finally land a date with the prettiest girl in the room. They often tell a story about the guy who meets the love of his life, but she doesnt know it yet. The woman is initially uninterested, rebuffing his advances. Hes just not her type. However, he isnt so easily dissuaded. He shows up to her office every single day to ask her outuntil she finally says yes. No matter which version you hear (maybe hes in the Navy or shes already got a boyfriend), theres one constant: they always end up married at the end. A female body will always be part of his prize for saving the day. As a result, women are presented as objectsbodies to be used by and for the pleasure of men. Men absorb such messages from society and believe them to be true. Messages such as never give up and if at first you dont succeed, try, try again offer us necessary lessons about the value of perseverance, but rarely do they illustrate the importance of consent. Rarely are men taught that its OK to try your best and not get what you wantrarely are we taught that no deserves respect. They then act on these messages, creating and further feeding into rape culture and enacting violence against women that is encouraged by the fallacious idea which associates women and femininity with impotence and inferiority.

Women internalize this misogyny as well, learning that we have to be sex objects to find our place in the world. The sexual objectification of women in film and other sectors of the media has a detrimental effect on girls and young women, in which when girls have extended exposure to films where female characters are dressed in over-sexualized costumes, they became more aware of their own body competence and the exposure impacts their view of the female gender and female roles. Such over-sexualization in popular Hollywood industry takes away from girls self-esteem and encourages them to want to alter their bodies to look more like the actresses in films and media. The result is a generation of women who struggle with their body image and/or sexuality. These struggles show up as depression, anxiety, eating disorders, body dysmorphic disorders, obsessive-compulsive disorders, reproductive concerns, parenting issues or relationship crises. We police our bodies and absorb ourselves in vanity in order to compete for male attention as if that is the ultimate dreamas if we were brought into this world simply as accessories to satisfy the man. The media allows the exploitation of womens bodies for profit. In here, money becomes more important than human dignity, ethics and morality. This is one of the ways in which patriarchy benefits men.

andel posted...

zonbei has gotten purgatory before multiple times, they will be back eventually

Would be nice, but I've got the PM from their alt saying not happening.

We can hope for the best, though.

FortuneCookie posted...

Wait, so if I see boobs in a video game, I might consider self-harm / suicidal ideation?

<_<

Like I said, they only see things in absolute, simplistic terms. So when they see something like that they just mock it.

The boob size gamers get:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cf104f63.jpg

VS

The boob size gamers want:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e09b5e5.jpg

VS

What prudes think gamers want:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8df362c7.jpg

PS:
Omg that first girl is infinitely cuter and more feminine then most of Western AAA female protagonists.

Also holy s*** this topic blew up there might be more posts than I can read

jesus fucking christ, you could grind that vein if she was a tony hawk level, i'm sorry if i'm being an asshole, but that is frightening, i'm having panic reactions imagining a vein like that going down my chest, just waiting for a bird to pluck it like a fat blue worm

deoxxys posted...

a whatever post

look, as long as you complain about all your video games not having sex dolls in them when you have the entire internet at your fingertips, people are gonna laugh at you and not take you seriously. This is just a fact of life.

and if you don't like the content of video games, make your own damn ones then. I'm sure you can get inspiration from the front page of the eShop on any given day...

People throw the term "realism" around like that's a good thing. I don't want my video games crammed with realism. Entertainment is largely great because it can escape the bounds of realism. And that's why most entertainment is not realistic at all.

I want my video games to be maximally enjoyable. Different levels of physical attractiveness are a thing, and like almost all living mammals human beings are biologically programmed to prefer physically attractive people.

Babies as young as a few months old can be tested and demonstrated to show a strong preference for "attractive" faces. Attractive people are both consciously and subconsciously preferred and favored in virtually all social settings and situations.

There's a reason the vast majority of actors and actresses are MUCH more attractive than the average person. They don't look like the random people in line and Wal Mart at even though those people are far more a realistic depiction of an average person.

I want my video game dudes buff chads and I want my video game girls hot and sexy. I want to see and celebrate the ideal in my entertainment and most other people do as well.

We've entered this very strange era where a very vocal minority of misfits are threatened by depictions of conventionally attractive people. They dress up their bitterness and insecurity as some sort of social crusade but their true motivations are as transparent as grandma's underpants.

UAZaqwert posted...

People throw the term "realism" around like that's a good thing.

Do they? So far no one has used it other than to make up crappy strawmen.

UAZaqwert posted...

People throw the term "realism" around like that's a good thing. I don't want my video games crammed with realism.

define "realism"

like, video games are still video games. even those with more grounded art styles are still video games...

UAZaqwert posted...

We've entered this very strange era where a very vocal minority of misfits are threatened by depictions of conventionally attractive people. They dress up their bitterness and insecurity as some sort of social crusade but their true motivations are as transparent as grandma's underpants.

Then we see the inevitable crying about pretty privilege in dating topics, how women have it so easy compared to men, happens frequently from people who espouse this type of gimmick sexism

Trelve posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70dfdfe2.jpg

Ugh

Aside from the pockets of misogyny associated with various female character reveals, there was a TON of racism on the MK1 board after the new Tanya reveal -

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fe38fcd1.jpg
what a shit storm!

viewmaster_pi posted...

jesus fucking christ, you could grind that vein if she was a tony hawk level, i'm sorry if i'm being an asshole, but that is frightening, i'm having panic reactions imagining a vein like that going down my chest, just waiting for a bird to pluck it like a fat blue worm

Omg this is a great post but I physically recoiled when you're talking about the bird eating the worm.

CSCA33 posted...

Aside from the pockets of misogyny associated with various female character reveals, there was a TON of racism on the MK1 board after the new Tanya reveal -

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fe38fcd1.jpg
what a shit storm!

Hmm yet no one would have been complaining if she looked like this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6250f4ca.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/144a1f22.jpg

UAZaqwert posted...

There's a reason the vast majority of actors and actresses are MUCH more attractive than the average person. They don't look like the random people in line and Wal Mart at even though those people are far more a realistic depiction of an average person.

Yep women from Walmart are more attractive than most games made for "mOderN auDienCes". Heck I used to work at Walmart and people like to .harp on Walmart but there's a lot of attractive people there. Also I think there's a lot less attractive celebrities than there used to be.

CrimsonGear80 posted...

look, as long as you complain about all your video games not having sex dolls in them when you have the entire internet at your fingertips, people are gonna laugh at you and not take you seriously. This is just a fact of life.

and if you don't like the content of video games, make your own damn ones then. I'm sure you can get inspiration from the front page of the eShop on any given day...

This is why I made the meme post earlier. Prudes don't know the difference between a conventionally attractive woman and a "sex doll". I'd prefer the term bombshell babe.

And just because you only like to complain in these threads doesn't mean this is the only thing I complain about.

I like to complain about a lot of different things in video games I'll have you know! Microtransactions, game design, replayability, art direction, game balance. Video games are my biggest hobby, do you think I would really only narrow it down to one thing?

I'm just glad that good indie games are a lot easier to create then good indie movies because indie games do fix a majority of the video game industries problems. They lack in some sexuality and graphical fidelity but the strength of their other categories far outweighs those. Would you imagine that? Deoxxys cares about something other than tits? Also graphics are catching up, not to mention art direction can make up for that and they fulfill the niche of games with older styles such as pixel art.

viewmaster_pi posted...

jesus fucking christ, you could grind that vein if she was a tony hawk level, i'm sorry if i'm being an asshole, but that is frightening, i'm having panic reactions imagining a vein like that going down my chest, just waiting for a bird to pluck it like a fat blue worm

I don't want to body shame this poor woman but she's not here right now, that is physically revolting and makes me not want to ever have sex at this time.

deoxxys posted...

I like to complain about a lot of different things in video games I'll have you know!

well right now you sound like what everyone is calling you.

As with every other problem in game there are two culprits which are to blame in different capacities for each problem:

• Greedy clueless corporations
• Shitty entitled toxic players

Aside from natural disasters or other major global events that effect everything else anyway, all problems in gaming always come down to those two groups.

CrimsonGear80 posted...

well right now you sound like what everyone is calling you.

No one's calling me anything. But sure just grab on the one little part of my post you liked.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I don't want to body shame this poor woman but she's not here right now, that is physically revolting and makes me not want to ever have sex at this time.

. Sad face, she's so damn sexy though. She needs representation in media other than porn.

deoxxys posted...

No one's calling me anything. But sure just grab on the one little part of my post you liked.

the rest of your post would have been more worth it if it wasn't AFTER all the incel shit...

deoxxys posted...

Sad face, she's so damn sexy though. She needs representation in media other than porn.

If I were John Carpenter's The Thing, I would see her and leave the planet.

deoxxys posted...

I like to complain about a lot of different things in video games I'll have you know!

Do you make up weird strawmen for them too? Or are women you not finding sexy in games something so disastrous to you that you only really make up crap when talking about them?

Whats with the increase in chuddery here? I stayed here because its one of the few normal boards on the site but at this rate I might as well go to Reddit.

deoxxys posted...

PS:
Omg that first girl is infinitely cuter and more feminine then most of Western AAA female protagonists.

My advice to you is seek out particular Japanese publishers that focus on games where girls are unashamedly sex objects. Now I personally don't have any problem with sexy depictions of women in games... I happen to enjoy sexy women... but I'm wise enough to understand gaming is the most mainstream thing ever now, and it's not here to pander to just horny straight guys who are playing video games alone for the most part.

I remember playing some Xenoblade Chronicles 2 off by myself during a family holiday and my sister comes by to ask me something (we're both adults) and I was so embarrassed at the cut scene that happened to be playing out with several of the more big-breasted female characters acting really dumb... It was an eye opener because the whole game I'm playing by myself or maybe another dude of my age and interests around.

I like big JRPGs with loads of systems and flashy stat based battles, I personally don't mind the overly sexualized female characters in that game, but it kinda distracts and detracts. Have you seen Pyra, Mythra, and some of the other women in that game? It actually looks weirdly off proportion.

streamofthesky posted...

Get fucked Microsoft. I'm so glad your gaming division is utterly tanking. Normally more competition is a good thing, but you've been a cancer on console gaming for two decades now, always the tip of the spear on nearly every horrible change to console gaming.

Also gotta love how no one ever complains about all the dudes who could only look so insanely jacked as they do in games if they were downing tons of steroids daily, but a regular healthy woman w/ nice T&A is "unrealistic" and gets a legion of critics.

LMAO you think Sony's first party titles like Horizon, Last of Us, and Spiderman cater to the anti-woke crowd? Meanwhile Halo and Gears are famous for their depictions of people with unrealistic body proportions, like Cortana.

And MS's gaming division is not "tanking", the company has $211 billion in revenue, and $88 billion in operating income.
https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar23/index.html

I can't say the same about Sony that admitted to multiple losses.

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/archive.html

Fenriswolf posted...

And MS's gaming division is not "tanking", the company has $211 billion in revenue, and $88 billion in operating income.

Have they made an actual profit yet at this point?

Microsoft could allow their consoles to bomb for another two decades before it really hurts them. They are just too big of a corporation.

Torgo posted...

Have they made an actual profit yet at this point?

Microsoft could allow their consoles to bomb for another two decades before it really hurts them. They are just too big of a corporation.

Yes. Recently their gaming division overtook their Windows division for profits (though that comes with the asterisk that's only because of the purchase of Act-Bliz).

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

If I were John Carpenter's The Thing, I would see her and leave the planet.

Omg another great post

I would bury my face in those bosoms.

Torgo posted...

My advice to you is seek out particular Japanese publishers that focus on games where girls are unashamedly sex objects. Now I personally don't have any problem with sexy depictions of women in games... I happen to enjoy sexy women...

Have you seen Pyra, Mythra, and some of the other women in that game? It actually looks weirdly off proportion.

See but the thing is I don't necessarily need really sexualized women just attractive women. That's just what the prudes think most of us want.

At least women in real life dress in a way that show off a modicum of sexuality, It's not overboard but you see cleavage, bare leg or tight fitting pants that accentuate the buttocks.

But endnote of mine you quoted was about the girl with no chest but had a really pretty face that wasn't even caked up in makeup.

Also yes I remember when Pyra and Mithra came to smash ultimate lol, those milkers were the talk of the town.

deoxxys posted...

The boob size gamers get:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cf104f63.jpg

VS

The boob size gamers want:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e09b5e5.jpg

VS

What prudes think gamers want:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8df362c7.jpg

PS:
Omg that first girl is infinitely cuter and more feminine then most of Western AAA female protagonists.

"We are being SO misrepresented! All the prudes say we want video game women to all have boobs that are quadruple D size or bigger, but that's completely untrue. We only need them to be DOUBLE D size or bigger!"

Also lol @ the idea that games are currently filled with small breasted women

Why is it such a priority for women in video games to have humongous boobs

It's not like there's not thousands of places to see boobs on the internet

Gwynevere posted...

Why is it such a priority for women in video games to have humongous boobs

There isnt. Unless youre going to call classic PS1 Lara Croft humongous.

Bass_X0 posted...

There isnt. Unless youre going to call classic PS1 Lara Croft humongous.

PS1 classic Lara's boob slider was set to maximum.

Gwynevere posted...

It's not like there's not thousands of places to see boobs on the internet

Where? And where can I find some material that doesn't leave me less interested in what I'm seeing?

Tyranthraxus posted...

PS1 classic Lara's boob slider was set to maximum.

The woman wearing green in the earlier post is what Id call humongous.

Gwynevere posted...

Why is it such a priority for women in video games to have humongous boobs

They're children and they want milk but they don't want to go to the store.

Zonbei posted...

My ex hated chocolate. And personally, Im more of a butt/hips/thighs/face person. You dont need big boobs to be attractive.

That says most men not all men.

NihonOctopus posted...

You're on the losing side

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/738fa4cc.jpg

Bullshit. There's no way America is in the butts category.

ellis123 posted...

There was a study from a couple decades ago that found that the reason that humans have developed large breasts in the first place is because of butt + hip size increasing over time. Thus without big butts there would have never been big breasts.

Understanding that you are actively calling breasts mediocre.

Sounds legit.

DnDer posted...

I didn't realize my post was difficult to comprehend.

I'll try smaller words next time.

That was the only thing it said.

McMarbles posted...

Youll find the average real woman does not have breasts larger than her head.
The occasional outlier should not be the baseline for all video game women.

The point is that the Stellar Blade protagonist is literally based off a real woman who modeled for the game.

NoxObscuras posted...

How is it vague? It's basically asking developers to think about how genders and gender traits are depicted in their game. And if it's necessary to depict them in that way.

These aren't at all what they mean though. It's not about easy modes. It's more along the lines of creating female characters that people want to play just as much as male characters.

Women can still dress skimpy. They're just saying to make sure that it makes sense for the character. If you're making a battle hardened knight that protects people from monsters and bandits, then it doesn't make sense having the woman wear a metal bikini while her male counterparts wear full suits of armor.

Fire Emblem Engage is a good example of this. There are characters that dress skimpy, but the female knights, who are supposed to have good defense, still have full armor. Because it makes sense for those characters.

And that's fine for a fast paced fps, but for more narrative focused games, strong, silent and stoic isn't always the type of male lead that you'll want as the center of the story.

And again, all of these things are suggestions to developers to help them avoid falling into these trappings. It's not forbidding any developers from doing it.

The page on Microsoft's site is called "Help Customers Feel Seen" and it has other points it covers besides what you guys are getting upset over. Such as:

Questions to Consider

* Are you telling new stories or sharing new perspectives within the product experience?
* Do all of your characters/player depictions look the same?
* What steps have you taken to ensure characters are represented respectfully and authentically?
* How have you validated assumptions you have made about your audience to check for blind spots or unintended stereotypes?
* Would you feel proud to show a member of a community how their culture/character is depicted within your experience?
* How are the wide range of customers depicted within your products, content portfolio and communications?
* What process have you used to validate how different groups of people or cultures are represented in your experience?

What customers? The people who complain about this stuff are either not gamers or gamers who wouldn't have played the games in the first place.

NoxObscuras posted...

No specific games come to mind. But why do you need an example? The whole point of Microsoft outlining all of this is to help up and coming developers think about it and avoid doing it. It's not a critique of any games. Which is why I think it's ridiculous to get upset about this.

That would be because it doesn't happen if you can't think of any examples.

ai123 posted...

As action52 predicted several pages ago, a lot of people seem unable (or unwilling) to realize that not designing around exaggerated proportions does not mean that there can be no attractive characters.

There's no good faith discussion to be had with people like that. They're like toddlers who scream 'why do you hate me so much!' at a parent who tells them off.

Toddlers wouldn't say that because they wouldn't know what that word means yet.

NoxObscuras posted...

No one is asking for ugly women. Some of the more toxic gamers just have this extreme view where either the women look like gorgeous, 10/10 super models or they're ugly. There's no in-between and it's ridiculous.

Like, the main character in Stellar Blade is literally based on a super model and you guys are like "See! This is how women in games are supposed to look."

But even outside of gaming, there's been pushback against the modeling industry for decades. Because only putting the most gorgeous, perfect women possible at the forefront sets unrealistic beauty standards for the average woman.

The point being that the average women doesn't look like that and will never look like that. And because that beauty standard is constantly shoved in their face, many young women get selfconscious about their looks and start getting plastic surgery to "fix" themselves. It's not healthy.

That's for shit in the real world like beauty magazines or television shows. Not fictional characters in a video game that are completely fictional.

DnDer posted...

Fun Fact: after having their post selectively targeted and marked, and catching a suspension, Zonbei is done with this place.

Why are we driving good people out of the community?

They got modded for calling someone a fucker. The quoted post is still there.

NoxObscuras posted...

No, those are the effects it can have on women

Yet you mentioned Fire Emblem earlier when almost every female character has boobs the size of Jupiter.

Torgo posted...

My advice to you is seek out particular Japanese publishers that focus on games where girls are unashamedly sex objects. Now I personally don't have any problem with sexy depictions of women in games... I happen to enjoy sexy women... but I'm wise enough to understand gaming is the most mainstream thing ever now, and it's not here to pander to just horny straight guys who are playing video games alone for the most part.

I remember playing some Xenoblade Chronicles 2 off by myself during a family holiday and my sister comes by to ask me something (we're both adults) and I was so embarrassed at the cut scene that happened to be playing out with several of the more big-breasted female characters acting really dumb... It was an eye opener because the whole game I'm playing by myself or maybe another dude of my age and interests around.

I like big JRPGs with loads of systems and flashy stat based battles, I personally don't mind the overly sexualized female characters in that game, but it kinda distracts and detracts. Have you seen Pyra, Mythra, and some of the other women in that game? It actually looks weirdly off proportion.

A lot of people don't want to play porn games.

That's for shit in the real world like beauty magazines or television shows. Not fictional characters in a video game that are completely fictional.

video games are another form of media/entertainment like tv, film, magazines. Tv shows and movies include fictional content, animation, computer generated imagery.

These issues are also tied into the budding sex robot industry.

Its a cultural issue in society and disingenuous to act like gaming is somehow exempt.

Yet you mentioned Fire Emblem earlier when almost every female character has boobs the size of Jupiter.

Community Note:

They actually dont.

Revelation34 posted...

That was the only thing it said.

And you still failed to comprehend it.

Revelation34 posted...

The point is that the Stellar Blade protagonist is literally based off a real woman who modeled for the game.

She's a model. A real woman who's part of the problem of setting unrealistic body expectations of what women look like in media.

Keep up.

Revelation34 posted...

That's for s*** in the real world like beauty magazines or television shows. Not fictional characters in a video game that are completely fictional.

Because only specific forms of media can have a negative impact on someone consuming it? And that surely doesn't include video games.

Revelation34 posted...

They got modded for calling someone a f***er. The quoted post is still there.

And not a single post flaming Idiot Machine with some variation of, "lives up to his name, lulz," seems to have been moderated. But zonbei is the one who gets nuked for legit calling someone to the mat?

Nah, bro. People mark with an agenda or a vendetta in mind. You've been on 261 and seen it. Don't act like the moderation system is being leveraged in a fair and equitable manner when you can see evidence to the contrary.