Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia topic 2: D'oh, here's your new topic!

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Eh, Ulti es bueno, senior Red es el diablo.

Does this Ulti look like he's gearing up to heroball the scum team with an immediate first claim?

Oh boy. Town Lopen is cooking...

Anyway, have more to say about Kirby.

Kirby called Lopen town early trusted Ulti for claiming right away (stating that he behaves more like Dead by Daylight town Ulti).
And while he disliked that Ben didnt vote all topic1 he also changed his mind about Ben once he saw Ben bring up the Vanilla discussion as well (he also liked FD and Chang for this)
This is when lea became his main suspect as well. With that in mind him suddenly asking Lea about FD makes a lot more sense
He attacked JC with his vote for a bit, but once JC claimed confusion about the renamed roles thing, Kirby refocused on Lea again. So all in all I can envision a proper line of thoughts here coming from a townplayer. I would rank him above Ulti so far.

That said, there were some parts I didnt like as much.

Already mentioned the thing about him trying to attach himself to the Vanilla discussion and how Chang went from unremarkable to a townlean so easily. Plus in hindsight I dont know why he would think his read on Lea was weaker than his read on Chang.

Kirby also sat on the fence about Isquen since he wanted to pressure Isquen but also that Isquen always gets day1 pressured.

And he out of nowhere said he would not mind a Ctes lynch merely for not having a townread on him while at the same time not getting the arguments against Ctes.

So to sum it up, I like the base of your content but not the outer layers.
Lea is next to give me more context.

Enchantress posted...

Does this Ulti look like he's gearing up to heroball the scum team with an immediate first claim?

This is not a move he would want to make as either alignment given the follow up activity but outside factors make me think scum

Technically I tried to vote Red on page 1 but it didn't count since it was in an image right?

##Vote: Red

The Ben taketh away (by indirectly getting me in trouble with people who don't like me not caring about role pm meta) but the Ben also giveth.

It's not the role PM meta I'm meta'ing btw, hence my insistence that death could just be scum referencing the fake town PM he was given. However, Lopen and FD dabbled in that meta to clear Death and I don't think scum meta that and believe it like they did. Or at least scum aren't the first to do it

I respect that angle more when you put it like that. I could swap FD for someone on what I call my enemies list.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bb1aeb00.jpg

I was bothered at first by how much everyone cared, especially Kirby. And I do think he leaned into it to try and clear himself... but it's so blatant that I think he's town. I keep hearing "just trust me bro". And if I can believe that HE trusts that I'm town that strongly, then I can believe it. And I think I do.

I just woke up and I'm grumpy why are people trying to lynch me when I claimed actual confirmable shit.

...You're saying you actually claimed vigilante for no reason? For real?

No, I claimed it for fake.

hello i'm back

i was going to vote for red as well but seeing as he's here i suppose we can see if he'll give any thoughts about other players first

after that i'm looking at voting ctes having been sorely disappointed by him not drumming up more points or interest on me

Red, suppose you were a day vig that doesn't end day. Who would you shoot right now?

Okay tried to get a sense of Lea's actual gameplay in between the memes and images.

I feel topic1 Lea was not as serious.
She made townreads mostly by accepting claims from people (Ulti, Sbell and Wallz) and argues for that towniness from time to time.
She voted players just to be a support for Lopen, always in a jokey way that made it easy for her to unvote.
And she brought up the flavor list from the last sultan simpsons mafia game. Which was helpful, but neutral as far as content goes.

Topic 2/end of topic1 does improve her a bit because she brought up actual suspects

Lea disliked FD for playing secretary and did not feel like crediting FD for the vanilla/renamed role discussion.

She also at first sat on the fence about Isquen (torn between agreeing with Chang or Wallz) but Isquens jokey reaction made her vote him in the end.
Out of all her votes this at least feels like its a bit more earnest. I also appreciate her admitting she does not have a better suspect at that time.
Her other 2 suspects were Red for the claim and Mzero for IGCDs townread of Ulti and she argued against people who wanted to keep calling any of those 4 town.

Honestly Lea is in limbo for me.
She clearly has an agenda now, but whether its benevolent or scummy depends on a lot of other players. I can sorta get why she would not want to townconfirm FD for example, but its also a desire a scum would have as they hate town confirmations.

Still I would not vote Lea for this.

oh also i'm gonna be playing in an online tournament starting at 8 eastern so i'll only be in here sparingly for the last hour before deadline

Red is confirmable but is he self confirmable

God damn it I laughed

Kirby321 posted...

Red, suppose you were a day vig that doesn't end day. Who would you shoot right now?

Probably a nothing like chang but I wouldn't shoot anyone.

But I'd have taken the game hostage like 20 hours ago.

Well I suppose now is as good a time as any to ask you why your vote is on me

red13n posted...

Probably a nothing like chang but I wouldn't shoot anyone.

But I'd have taken the game hostage like 20 hours ago.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3c9b4963.jpg

htaeD posted...

Well I suppose now is as good a time as any to ask you why your vote is on me

cause I'm lazy and will probably just take it off when I decide I want to lynch someone else.

I take it no one answered my question about the town case for chang.

Also chang, you're here and there a just hours left. You gotta have somewhere you wanna push, why are you holding off?

And don't act like no case was presented. But there was one Isquen post in particular that rubbed me wrong, I'll go find it.

whatever

##Vote: Ctes

underwhelmed by his efforts. last scum game i seem to remember he hid behind being quite busy IRL, this time he's been here and not much to show for it

ctesjbuvf posted...

I take it no one answered my question about the town case for chang.

Also chang, you're here and there a just hours left. You gotta have somewhere you wanna push, why are you holding off?

And don't act like no case was presented. But there was one Isquen post in particular that rubbed me wrong, I'll go find it.

hee hee hee ninja'd

Why we voting red?

Vibes

So.no actual reasoning. Just funnziez.

Nothing the mighty Corrik would care about, I'm sure

well he claimed vig when he was getting pressure before but i'm not sure anybody really buys that

Reds content can be summed up like this:

Red discussed the flavor split a bit but didnt put much value in what it all could be,
Called JC town.
Refused to go along with the flavor old/new confirmations.
Claimed to be a vig but admitted this page that it was a fake claim. In hindsight I dont know why I believed it at first. I dont even know if he expected to be believed anymore.

Topic2 he does try to actually read up and calls Lopen/IGCD town while calling Ulti suspicious for his claim but at the same time he didnt want to lynch Ulti anyway...
which left him with 9 players he'd consider lynching.

Not really much to go on.
Really its mostly his refusal to say whether his flavor is a reused simpsons character or not, that started getting him votes.

changmas posted...

well he claimed vig when he was getting pressure before but i'm not sure anybody really buys that

I did for a moment. FD seemed to as well.
I think he took it back anyway now tho?

also we need a new topic and votals

htaeD posted...

Really its mostly his refusal to say whether his flavor is a reused simpsons character or not, that started getting him votes.

Ahhh yes this dumbest timeline.

changmas posted...

i barely even remember his posts tbh besides trying to make a couple jokes so Id have to look at them tonight to know if thats even the case, just feels bad and boring to watch the same thing play out and have isquen die day 1 just because of his playing style

This was the one, it looked informed. He admits not recalling the posts and yet claims the push must be because of the playing style. So it's a defense based on nothing.

I know this ends in 2 hours but FF7 Rebirth demo ):

Most people see the case on Ulti but no votes

ctesjbuvf posted...

This was the one, it looked informed. He admits not recalling the posts and yet claims the push must be because of the playing style. So it's a defense based on nothing.

it was a defense based on nothing and i basically said as much at the time

just boring

Im not voting for ulti

He doesnt read role PMs correctly its just a character trait

This must have been the most blatant counter vote in a long time lol. You've barely been around buddy, how many points do you want drummed up? I explained what I didn't like and then you vote me back simply because you're disappointing by the effort? Maybe put in some more effort yourself lol.

I'm good with my vote. Still an open invitation to answer what makes chang town for anyone

Remind me what your red case was, chang

Ulti probably a one shot scum role that needed to survive one day and that's the gambit

That's why people are being blatant with the distancing and forgiveness

ctesjbuvf posted...

Remind me what your red case was, chang

Prob lying about vig and odds are solid that one of red, death, and jc is scum and i feel good about the other two

Lopen posted...

Ulti probably a one shot scum role that needed to survive one day and that's the gambit

That's why people are being blatant with the distancing and forgiveness

way more likely to be the case for JC or Red fwiw

My Red case is mostly that he feels extremely unengaged

changmas posted...

way more likely to be the case for JC or Red fwiw

Red never needs that

I'm just day 1 engaged and its been days of complete downer weather.

Nevermind that a majority of posting has been happening while I'm sleeping.

@TheSultanOfSlam @BlueCrystalTear We're gonna need a new topic soon

Hey, Ctes, what do you think about Ben and Death?

Isquen is who I would day vig but is the political will there, I dunno. I can't keep track of the myriad day one pass players