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Lopen
02/06/24 3:17:09 PM
#351:


Anyone can make up a town lean

Zero town leans feels honest to me

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Enchantress
02/06/24 3:19:38 PM
#352:


What if you're historically dreadful at making up town leans?
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Obellisk
02/06/24 3:20:11 PM
#353:


htaeD posted...
which actions specifically?

his lazy voting, calling out inactive, voting wallz after making a joke.

scumquen isn't going to be so reckless. I'd imagine town isquen caring less about appearences.

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wallmasterz
02/06/24 3:21:59 PM
#354:


I have trouble reconciling Isquen the host who puts in so much effort he writes a literal novel with Isquen the Simpsons player who reads 800 posts and goes Wallz bad. I got nothing else =)

And I definitely remember times where Isquen only posted a few times on d1 but actually had something to say. Not really in this game.

But whatever, if Isquen isnt happening Id like some time to figure out which way the wind is actually blowing. I wont be around much soon until like 30 minutes to deadline

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Obellisk
02/06/24 3:23:25 PM
#355:


I don't think wallz is scum either by the way.

I just happen to disagree with his stance on isquen.

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htaeD
02/06/24 3:23:57 PM
#356:


Obellisk posted...


his lazy voting, calling out inactive, voting wallz after making a joke.

scumquen isn't going to be so reckless. I'd imagine town isquen caring less about appearences.


Thats about the answer I expected.
Wouldnt call it ironclad townproof, but those thoughts did cross my mind as well.

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Lopen
02/06/24 3:24:05 PM
#357:


Obellisk posted...
I don't think wallz is scum either by the way.

I just happen to disagree with his stance on isquen.

Same

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htaeD
02/06/24 3:24:59 PM
#358:


Either way I would like him to stop being 'reckless'

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PunishedBen
02/06/24 3:28:47 PM
#359:


Kirby321 posted...
Hmm... I get the feeling that scum is missing some crucial information that they'd normally get in any other game.

I think Ben might see where I'm going with this.
I don't think we're alike in the way you think, but I might be seeing now what you're trying to say with your hints. Interesting!

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Lopen
02/06/24 3:37:18 PM
#360:


Kirby321 posted...
And now that brings us back to Ulti, who, as FD pointed out, did not mention a secondary name for his role despite it being fairly similar to Drunk.

I'm willing to give Ulti one pass, though... and that's maybe because he forgot.

Can you elaborate why you think Ulti forgetting would be likely

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PunishedBen
02/06/24 3:49:21 PM
#361:


Kirby321 posted...
Though JC isn't the one pinging my scumdar the most right now. I don't want to act on my true #1 suspect until my mason buddy confirms that he sees what I'm seeing.
Go ahead and reveal it when you want because I didn't see it

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htaeD
02/06/24 3:50:16 PM
#362:


Ok, feeling directionless.
Making a list of other players I dont want to lynch might be helpful as a start (everyone else is doing it!)
Lopen
Sbell
JC
Wallz
Ben
FD (but thats only because of how he reacted to my claim. I would like more from him eventually)

Also IGCD, but thats moreso because I dont know if Mzero will even show up anymore.
Half down already at least.
Of the remaining, I dont actually have anything against Changmas and dont expect to get much from Corrik
Isquen I will grant some time to put in actual effort

Time to recheck the other 5

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/06/24 3:52:40 PM
#363:


Unofficial votals now Offical as I sleep at my desk at the Neucular Power Plant.

(2) Ctes- JC, Lopen

(2) Isquen- Wallz, (Ctes), Lea

(1) Changmas- Ctes

(1) Death- Red, (Ulti), (Sbell), (Lopen), (Lea)

(1) Lea-Kirby

(1) Red- FD, (Lopen)

(1) Wallz- (Isquen), Isquen

(0) JC- (Lopen), (Lea), (Lopen), (Kirby), (Lopen)

(0) Kirby- (Isquen), (Lopen)

(0) Sbell- (Ulti)

(0) Ulti- (Isquen), (Lopen)

A little over 5 hours until EOD. Takes 9 for Majority

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Lopen
02/06/24 4:06:54 PM
#364:


Death POE looking very promising

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Kirby321
02/06/24 4:11:52 PM
#365:


Lopen posted...
Can you elaborate why you think Ulti forgetting would be likely

Because I totally forgot our roles were renamed. Like I said, my role is standard, so I just remembered the functional equivalent which was mentioned in my PM, not the Sultan-ified rename of it.

So if I easily forgot about it until the whole thing with Death and FD, I could see Ulti doing the same. Except I guess in this case Naive Neighbor would be the weird, quirky nickname. Hmm... maybe that's not so valid of a possibility after all.

PunishedBen posted...
I don't think we're alike in the way you think, but I might be seeing now what you're trying to say with your hints. Interesting!

Admittedly, I thought we had a stronger common thread at the time of making that post. Now I'm realizing it might not be quite the same thing. But hopefully you understood what I was trying to say.

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wallmasterz
02/06/24 4:17:11 PM
#366:


Someone suggested ulti should indicate who he plans to visit tonight. That still seems like a good idea

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Lopen
02/06/24 4:17:25 PM
#367:


Kirby321 posted...
Because I totally forgot our roles were renamed. Like I said, my role is standard, so I just remembered the functional equivalent which was mentioned in my PM, not the Sultan-ified rename of it.

Wouldn't Naive Neighbor be the renamed version though. What do you think the original role is.

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Lopen
02/06/24 4:24:37 PM
#368:


Roleplay as Ulti a bit

You get a role with a weird effect
You wonder what the heck it does
Does your eye not then look over your PM harder to try and figure it out and remember the functional equivalent mentioned in your PM?

Like if cop or vanilla or doctor sure. But a weird role I think you'd remember.

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Chaeix
02/06/24 4:24:48 PM
#369:


1. Corrik
2. Death
4. MZero
14. Ben
16. Chang

i believe these people have yet to vote once?

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htaeD
02/06/24 4:43:07 PM
#370:


Correct

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Obellisk
02/06/24 4:43:58 PM
#371:


ulti playing dumb over his role has never looked good.

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Lopen
02/06/24 4:45:29 PM
#372:


Ulti is being very inactive/lazy too

##Unvote:
##Vote: Ulti

This is the right vote. Ctes and Lea I am suspicious of but this is better than forcing more claims

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htaeD
02/06/24 4:47:29 PM
#373:


Actually Ulti said he had an appointment and might not even be around for deadline.
Doesnt make the posts he did make much better, or his lack of clear answers any less annoying.
but keep that in mind.

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Lopen
02/06/24 4:47:48 PM
#374:


He has nothing to do at deadline he's already claimed

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Obellisk
02/06/24 4:48:57 PM
#375:


htaeD posted...
Actually Ulti said he had an appointment and might not even be around for deadline.
Doesnt make the posts he did make much better, or his lack of clear answers any less annoying.
but keep that in mind.


appointment is at 7pm est according to ulti. but let's not discuss his schedule, it's a touchy subject.

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wallmasterz
02/06/24 4:53:28 PM
#376:


My paranoid thought all d1 is ulti is scum bomb and intentionally kept his role explanation vague + unsatisfying in hopes of drawing a town tracker or cop. Probably unlikely, but something is off for sure

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htaeD
02/06/24 4:54:00 PM
#377:


Actually I might as well post this now, instead of all the POE candidates at once.

I checked Ulti first and to sum up his desires and sins:
He Disliked Sbell at first but thought he was town eventually. Also liked JC quickly and now disavows both their lynches
He also believed IGCD to be town only because IGCD didnt want to lynch Ulti. Probably a joke, but still noting it.
I think Ulti did try to gaslight FD a bit when FD called him out for being a hypocrite about Sbell. Meanwhile when Sbell called him out, Ulti only responded with a joke-ish whine.
Other than that he really didnt do much besides the stuff with his claim, asked Wallz one question about him calling Isquen town (a fair question at least), and @ed Corrik and Kirby.

At best I can say this is in character for Ulti. However I dont see any clear towniness.

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Kirby321
02/06/24 4:55:01 PM
#378:


Lopen posted...
Roleplay as Ulti a bit

You get a role with a weird effect
You wonder what the heck it does
Does your eye not then look over your PM harder to try and figure it out and remember the functional equivalent mentioned in your PM?

Like if cop or vanilla or doctor sure. But a weird role I think you'd remember.

Given how he handled his extremely unique role in SSB Mafia (of which I was host and was totally privy to Ulti's line of thought, or as much as he told me of it), there's a good chance Ulti actually has a great grasp of his role and how it works but is deliberately omitting or miscontruing things to Town. Why? Because he's Ulti.

Like, I get the angle you're coming from, Lopen, and if it were some other player, I'd reconsider. But sometimes with Ulti, all logic goes out the window. Hell I'm still reconsidering given that there's a very real possibility town Ulti just bullshitted a fake claim for no clear reason.

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Lopen
02/06/24 4:55:25 PM
#379:


Ulti not pushing red and indirectly defending him was SUPER out of character for him actually

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htaeD
02/06/24 4:55:40 PM
#380:


Also if there is more to his rolename than Naive Neighbor, I didnt catch a hint of it.

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htaeD
02/06/24 4:56:30 PM
#381:


Lopen posted...
Ulti not pushing red and indirectly defending him was SUPER out of character for him actually


True enough. I realize the weakness of my ISOs is that I dont notice as much the things a player does not do or say.

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htaeD
02/06/24 4:57:36 PM
#382:


Kirby will you tell us your # 1 suspect today btw?
I've been checking your posts now, and you made me curious.

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Chaeix
02/06/24 4:59:02 PM
#383:


i don't believe kirby ever addressed my question about why he decided to pressure me after explicitly saying he wasn't going to

herr kirby?

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Chaeix
02/06/24 5:00:11 PM
#384:


Kirby321 posted...
I had the same question. Though I think JC's had moments of claiming just to get out of a corner as town. Might be wrong there. I'd say it's the shakiest claim thus far, but with so many claims already here in Day 1, I'm not too keen on pushing it further.

Also complete side-tangent, I now know that "cromulent" is a word lmao
Good word tbh. Very eloquent


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Kirby321
02/06/24 5:01:13 PM
#385:


htaeD posted...
Kirby will you tell us your # 1 suspect today btw?
I've been checking your posts now, and you made me curious.

It's Lea, for reasons I elaborated on... I think posts somewhere in the 280s?

The TL;DR is that I don't like how she ignored Ben's analysis of the claim interaction between you and FD and then unironically proposed FD as scum, despite the unlikelihood of FD being scum and being aware that your Vanilla role should've had a secondary name attached to it.

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Lopen
02/06/24 5:03:24 PM
#386:


I think if you suspect Lea you definitely should not be giving Ulti any leash

Lea was dishonorably discharged from the legion by avoiding SOLDIERING on to Ulti and has been running passive interference for him all game.

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02/06/24 5:07:41 PM
#387:


Chaeix posted...
i don't believe kirby ever addressed my question about why he decided to pressure me after explicitly saying he wasn't going to

herr kirby?

I mean I did say your claim was the shakiest by far. That didn't change when I voted you initially.

Quite honestly I ran out of people to suspect and wanted to put some vote down for pressure. I really had nothing to go off of besides my hunch on Lea, so I just put my vote on you.

I didn't want to play all my cards at the time until it felt safe to do so, since it involved potentially outing roles, so I held back on voting Lea at first. But then the topic of the alternative role names popped up, and you were at the center of it, so I figured that was gonna be as good a time as any to voice my suspicions on Lea.

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Kirby321
02/06/24 5:08:35 PM
#388:


Lopen posted...
I think if you suspect Lea you definitely should not be giving Ulti any leash

Lea was dishonorably discharged from the legion by avoiding SOLDIERING on to Ulti and has been running passive interference for him all game.

Just making sure I understand, you're saying Lea has been defending Ulti this entire time?

I mean that as a genuine question. I skimmed all of Topic 1, so there is a very reasonable chance I skipped over some important details.

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Enchantress
02/06/24 5:12:52 PM
#389:


##unvote

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Lopen
02/06/24 5:13:47 PM
#390:


Kirby321 posted...
Just making sure I understand, you're saying Lea has been defending Ulti this entire time?

Yes. It has been subtle but there. The big thing is she handwaved Ulti's claim early as "wacky Ulti not understanding his role" with images.

Then later she did not choo choo Ulti

It is subtle (Lea is good at mafia, so it would be) but there

I can look for other stuff too but yeah I think if you're really sus of Lea that Ulti as scum makes more sense than town

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Kirby321
02/06/24 5:19:54 PM
#392:


Lopen posted...
Yes. It has been subtle but there. The big thing is she handwaved Ulti's claim early as "wacky Ulti not understanding his role" with images.

Then later she did not choo choo Ulti

It is subtle (Lea is good at mafia, so it would be) but there

I can look for other stuff too but yeah I think if you're really sus of Lea that Ulti as scum makes more sense than town

I would assume Lea saying Ulti doesn't understand his own role spins more of an angle of "scatterbrained townie" than "botched scum fakeclaim", especially that early into the game.

So if she didn't follow a lynch train on to Ulti, wouldn't that just be consistent...?

I'm not seeing how this condemns Ulti, really.

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Kirby321
02/06/24 5:20:14 PM
#393:


Wait hold on I'm stupid

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Enchantress
02/06/24 5:22:23 PM
#394:


If you assume certain people are scum before they flip, you can make all sorts of arguments
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htaeD
02/06/24 5:23:21 PM
#395:


I was about to post my Kirby ISO, but I guess I can hold on Kirby.

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Kirby321
02/06/24 5:24:09 PM
#396:


Forget what I said. I completely missed your point.

Okay fair enough. I'd still much rather lynch Lea before considering Ulti, especially if the logic is "Lea is scum, therefore so is Ulti." Because if the premise is false, so is the conclusion (if Lea is town, then Ulti might not be scum), so better to evaluate Ulti based on Lea's flip rather than the other way around.

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Lopen
02/06/24 5:26:07 PM
#397:


Enchantress posted...
If you assume certain people are scum before they flip, you can make all sorts of arguments

That's how you find scum early game. You can't wait for flips and wring your wrists till then

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Lopen
02/06/24 5:26:58 PM
#398:


Kirby321 posted...
especially if the logic is "Lea is scum, therefore so is Ulti."

That's not the logic. Lea could do this if Ulti is town too. I'm just saying if deadset on Lea scum Ulti looks worse.

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htaeD
02/06/24 5:27:04 PM
#399:


Pre-emptively striking one of your negative points from the list, Kirby. Well done.

The point was: giving Ulti a pass despite knowing he made an odd claim. Though since you still want to pursue Lea first, you are still technically defending Ulti. Just not blindly.

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Lopen
02/06/24 5:28:12 PM
#400:


Thinking Lea is almost certainly scum and Ulti is almost certainly town is a hard thought process to reconcile if you're being internally consistent because they are linked in some ways.

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