Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia topic 2: D'oh, here's your new topic!

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I mean, Lea kinda sums it up pretty succinctly. You're getting crickets because although Isquen's posts seem scummy by the book... this happens every game with Isquen. Regardless of alignment.

I do agree with Ctes that Isquen's town tells usually come out during pressure. At the same time, I agree with Chang

Lopen posted...

I think the Isquen case is weak and is only bring pursued because it's Isquen

No one else in the game voted three times in such a short amount of time for flimsy/odd reasons. I dont think Ive ever seen Isquen do that.

Isquen literally hasnt engaged anyone either. When I asked him for thoughts on the game he voted me for being mafia flavor, ulti for having reused flavor (when only a few people had claimed) and Kirby for being inactive despite acknowledging himself as relatively inactive as well.

I dont expect Isquen to be lynched at this point but its factually as good a case we have on anyone, and its d1.

... Posting on mobile is hard

I agree with Chang that Day 1 usually is the same affair each game. It'd take something huge to avoid lynching Sbell, Isquen, or Plum (who isn't in this game) on Day 1.

I don't know what you're expecting, really. There's no town case on Isquen currently. It's just pattern recognition from always drawing attention due his creative writing and mafia style. His next line will be "my role is like seven flowers blooming in the pale moonlight, ephemeral. My night action is a duck finding a harpsichord washed up on a beach and knowing it has wasted its life. Thrice, I say and done. WHY DID YOU JERKS MISLYNCH ME I WAS CLEARLY HINTING DOCTOR?!?!!"

Sultan is actually the most common d1 lynch in recent times

Hey, Lea, how are you feeling about FD?

I don't really have anything better I admit, beyond difficult to prove hunches. When does Isquen get home from work today?

https://youtu.be/o-xfdMwSsoE?si=RqtBZcdcwkQTmKw7

Kirby321 posted...

Hey, Lea, how are you feeling about FD?

Low key suspicious that he's largely just playing secretary instead of scum/town hunting

Oh here we go again

I dont want to mislynch town. Im used to Isquen (abacus was the same way) posting twice, possibly in a questionable way, parking a vote and coming back just before deadline or not at all. This isnt that, but Im getting off my soapbox now

Hmm... I get the feeling that scum is missing some crucial information that they'd normally get in any other game.

I think Ben might see where I'm going with this.

Here is me looking through older games to find who was lynched d1.

FD
JC
Ulti
Sultan
Kirby
Sultan
Marth
BCT
Ulti
NL
Chris
Isquen

Look at all that Sbell, Plum and Isquen.

Isquen posted...

Oh here we go again

You know, you can only skate by on that rep so far, you do have to actually try. Since, you know, you are scum half the time this happens.

To stop those lynches, one-two-three
Here's a fresh new way that's trouble-free
It's got Paul Anka's guarantee
(Guarantee void in Tennessee)

Just scum hunt
Just scum hunt

ctesjbuvf posted...

Man for someone who lead most things in topic 1 you sure handed in your soldier resignation quickly.

I lead charges against like 4 people I'm not just gonna train anything that gets votes

Isquen is a lynch for cowards not soldiers

I stopped when I actually found an Isquen lynch, which was a full year ago.

D1 lynch is a misleading stat

Isquen is an inertia lynch that gets defaulted into whenever scum feels like pulling the escape valve. They don't always need the valve day 1.

If the people under pressure were scum today they need it day 1

Okay but like half the game doesn't have a vote down. What good comes from sitting with your arms crossed using outdated meta.

Let's go all the cowards then, whoever will allow me a chance to get a better read.

Lopen posted...

D1 lynch is a misleading stat

Isquen is an inertia lynch that gets defaulted into whenever scum feels like pulling the escape valve. They don't always need the valve day 1.

If the people under pressure were scum today they need it day 1

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

LardLad Votals

(2) Iquen- Ctes, wallz
(1) Red- FD, (Lopen)
(1) Kirby- Isquen, (Lopen)
(1) Death- Red, (Ulti), (Sbell), (Lopen), (Lea)
(0) Sbell- (Ulti)
(1) Ulti- Lopen, (Isquen)
(0) Wallz- (Isquen)
(0) JC- (Lopen), (Lea), (Lopen)

Which of the poor vote-getting bastards in these votals from 45 minutes ago am I protecting

I agree with Lopen that including non-day 1 mislynches it goes up a ton. But, I am offended by Isquen's response nonetheless, carry on, etc.

I'm not saying you're scum btw when I said I'd rather lynch you or ctes than Isquen

Ctes maybe though

Lopen posted...

D1 lynch is a misleading stat

Isquen is an inertia lynch that gets defaulted into whenever scum feels like pulling the escape valve. They don't always need the valve day 1.

If the people under pressure were scum today they need it day 1

I actually did stats in DTC at some point, it might be in some discord channel and it actually wasn't particularly noticeable. Sultan was easily the most mislycnhed person in recent times, and sure there are people that never get mislynched but Isquen didn't actually stick out like he has a reputation for.

I'm not TOO bothered into being a day 1 lynch if it makes you feel better but calling two votes "pressure" is just...

Wait, let me turn imageposting back on for an appropriate, age-old response.

I think Ulti is scum so Isquen voting him gives Isquen town equity to me is the bug reason I don't want to lynch Isquen though

Also screw the stats if you want, that was never the point.

Huh. I don't even remember which game I got lynched D1 in.

If Isquen doesn't get lynched D1, it's usually D2. I'm definitely moving the goalposts here, but my point is that Isquen gets lynched as town pretty often, at least from my memory. But it might be close to a year since I've last played mafia here.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f8834749.jpg
Yes, there we go.

Lopen posted...

I think Ulti is scum so Isquen voting him gives Isquen town equity to me is the bug reason I don't want to lynch Isquen though

He unvoted Ulti after three hours

##vote: Isquen

This is not a reaction worthy of grace.

But he didn't ever townclear Ulti.

He would go back I would imagine. RIGHT Isquen?

That's at least an actual reason, whether you agree or not.

This was most push against "let's focus on someone that has done nothing" I can recall

Has JC posted at all since he claimed?

Kirby321 posted...

Huh. I don't even remember which game I got lynched D1 in.

If Isquen doesn't get lynched D1, it's usually D2. I'm definitely moving the goalposts here, but my point is that Isquen gets lynched as town pretty often, at least from my memory. But it might be close to a year since I've last played mafia here.

It was as scum prostitute in b8 mafia.

I don't think it's worth it to go beyond what I've said of stats, I don't think it's a good reasoning for your play to use track records regardless.

Isquen shows up, no game thoughts, just wants to be super indulgent about ohhhhhh lynching me again EH? It reeks of taking advantage of the sympathetic sentiment. Completely ignored advice to scum hunt, just really trying to make people paranoid. When the person being suspected does that, it becomes a manipulation attempt instead of an argument I support. You might as well go around sarcastically calling everyone geniuses or whatever it is Ukti kept spamming.

Either scum trying to skate by not having to scum hunt or truly lacking in self awareness. Gonna call people pathetic for not liking your argument "Ned Flanders was in the last game so Ulti is scum and Kirby hasn't posted yet, holy moly!"

Kirby321 posted...

Has JC posted at all since he claimed?

He posted a few snide "BUT WHY DID YOU POST THAT!?!?!" quips to really drive home how darn mad I made him

I don't really get lynched day 1. I generally get killed day 1.

At any rate, caught up, good on Kirby for actually contributing overnight. Corrik less so, but meh. Wallz parroting ctes when I already suspected him for a bold claim is more damning than anything else I can see. If someone still wants to run a train on me, feel free, though we're getting into "hot dog down a hallway" territory at this point.

Also, those stats were skewed. Yes, I'm more commonly a day *2* mislynch. It what led me to a rare instance of gloating when I was given unlynchable. (I am not. Don't be absurd.)

And, Lea? What are words if not a bouquet to buffet the boors away?

At any rate:
##unvote
##vote: wallz

This veteran will soldier on for this cause alone, Lopen.

Red/FD/Isquen/Mzero, yes, that will do

Lopen posted...

He would go back I would imagine. RIGHT Isquen?

Duh. Four people gave it away for free.

Still think Ulti's claim is dumb though. Flanders, sure. Mechanically, it stinks.

Anyone you think is town, Isquen?

I only checked day 1 because the first response from chang said day 1. It doesn't matter

##Vote: JC

Call it paranoia, but JC's claim has a nonzero chance of being scum looking for guaranteed safety on night 1. It's certainly the claim that I like the least out of all the ones that have gone out so far.

Enchantress posted...

Anyone you think is town, Isquen?

Nay, but I always suck at day 1 reads anyways.

What do you think of Wallz' flavor claim, Isquen?

Enchantress posted...

Red/FD/Isquen/Mzero, yes, that will do

What do you think of FD being called town by a bunch of people starting with Ben?

Also is there a case on MZero?

Though JC isn't the one pinging my scumdar the most right now. I don't want to act on my true #1 suspect until my mason buddy confirms that he sees what I'm seeing.

ctesjbuvf posted...

What do you think of Wallz' flavor claim, Isquen?

I'm voting him for it. Every post feels like he's chasing the high of Lea's old sig of "claiming LITERAL MAFIA and expecting no repercussions," without the charisma.

If it's not Paper Mario Mafia, I don't think flavor is a good enough argument to convict someone. And I'm gonna argue that on a technicality here.

ctesjbuvf posted...

What do you think of FD being called town by a bunch of people starting with Ben?

Also is there a case on MZero?

So, I think it's extremely silly for people to clear people for acknowledging renamed roles. I hate that meta-crap, scum either knows the pattern or it's a serious game hosting error. It's far worse than flavour meta. I know Ben tends to go hard on that line, so I'm not currently penalizing him for it, he's big on empathetic relatable feelings even if they're easy to spoof.

The case on Mzero is basically IGCD going hard on "Ulti is deffo town and no, I will not elaborate". Mzero can redeem the slot, but so far he has not.

Isquen posted...

Nay, but I always suck at day 1 reads anyways.

Very odd. You'd think you like at least thing this entire day.