Current Events > I've seen countless debates around "woke" but it is seldom defined.

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Without placing any value judgements, how would you personally define the term "woke"? Do you think most people define the term the same way?

Long time no see Joe numbers

It's 2023, we still talk about this?

Who is the worse user, Joe numbers or f numbers?

It's 2023, we still talk about this?

Only fear-mongering conservative wackjobs.

"The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them." - Ryan Newman, general counsel to Ron DeSantis

That's what DeSantis, through his attorney, defined "woke" to be when testifying under oath. That's what DeSantis has been railing against for several years.

Source? I would find it very interesting if that is how Ron DeSantis defined the term.

Woke was the first Ghostbusters remake.

Please explain, in detail.

Nah.

Without placing any value judgements, how would you personally define the term "woke"? Do you think most people define the term the same way?

Why?

Not worth it bro.

Watching the games.
You know why.
Never know what you can get modded for.
Dumb thread.

The modern day use is something perceived as "anti white, anti male or anti straight"

There, saved y'all some time and effort

Why is it perceived that way? Who perceives it that way, and what makes them do so?

Please explain, in detail. I don't get it.

Idk I don't really give enough of a shit. Just sharing how I always see it used now

The modern day use is something perceived as "anti white, anti male or anti straight"

There, saved y'all some time and effort

1. having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities:

yeah but that's because they were offended by the real definition.

Woke
adjective
1. having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities:
so you can see why the right wingers/republican party tried to re-define the word.

Not worth it bro.

Watching the games.
You know why.
Never know what you can get modded for.
Dumb thread.

the original definition: essentially it means awareness of social issues (racism the most prominent but can really be used to mean anything), it originates from African American Vernacular English

modern day hijacked right wing definition: anything left of Nazism, or the above definition somehow being a bad thing. it's basically today's version of blindly calling things communist during the cold war.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/2/AAKd0vAAEmBi.jpg

I've explained it many times. People just don't accept it.

Now I'm not referring to the Ron DeSantis level of discourse where everything he doesn't like is woke. Acknowledging structural oppression and hostile bigotry towards marginalized groups of people is a positive form of wokeness.

But basically "wokeness" used as a pejorative refers to instances where people shove their social justice causes into scenarios where they aren't otherwise relevant.

Like if someone is reviewing a game where the story isn't actually important, and takes off points for something like "poor representation" or "damsel cliches"; that's an instance of "wokeness" that a hardcore gamer might complain about.

Or let's say there's a M-rated game coming from overseas. The original version has breast slide sliders and camera angles focusing on asses. But localization removes them out of consideration for "sexual objectification". Woke and annoying; we are adults, if we don't want that content we could just not buy the game, those who do want it shouldn't be deprived of the developer's original vision.

Some political examples. When Ilhan Omar accused politicians of being bought off by Israel's lobbies, the media accused her of being antisemitic, even though she was referring specifically to the nation of Israel instead of Jewish people in general. Woke. When Bernie Sanders said his progressive campaign would struggle in the south because voters there lean conservative, the media accused him of being dismissive of black voters, even though the statement applies to southern state voters on average rather than any specific race of them. Woke. There are many such cases where peoples' words are misinterpreted to contribute to someone's grievance campaign.

Any case where one thinks their being offended gives them license to censor someone else's work or make out identity neutral stances to be bigoted is negative wokeness.

Ahh, finally, a self proclaimed expert on the subject! The idea of gaining knowledge titillates me!

Could you give examples of "woke" games, please, and why they are bad, or offensive, please? You're clearly an authority, so I'd love to see more of your thoughts!

Um, just fyi, you're being kinda rude.

If you are legitimately interested in Inohira's perspective, you probably shouldn't be mocking and condescending towards them.

Um, just fyi, you're being kinda rude.

If you are legitimately interested in Inohira's perspective, you probably shouldn't be mocking and condescending towards them.