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Wow! Yeah bad ending. Weird choice. Glad I went with Mia the first time through. Zoe got frigging buried.

Turbam posted...

Yes Zoe is the "bad" end. I ended up picking Zoe as well. As a character, I can see why Ethan would pick Mia. But as a player, Zoe is the only rational choice

Yeah surprising. As a player based on the info we get and how Zoe actually helps us opposed to Mia who fights us, is clearly shady and tells us to forget her, I can totally see picking Zoe. But I figured Ethan would chose Mia so I chose Mia.

Do this replay of the last 2 hours or so was fun. I can see the speedrun and hard modes of this being a pretty good time honestly. I really enjoyed REmake and RE4's harder difficulties. Doing REmake with no saves and all that was tense as hell. Hopefully nothing here will be too frustrating, but that's all for another day.

Going to do the story DLC and check out the other modes real quick and then call it quits for now with RE7.

There are some lingering questions you had, will not say which, that are answered in Village. While not as scary, there is one part...

I probably won't play Village until 2025 lol. Next year's REmake 2 and 3.

Played Nightmare and that is really fun, but I died on hour fucking 5 to the crawlers. I hate them so much. I had like 2 extra heals too. Ah well. Wasn't expected just different game modes like this. But hey that was pretty darn fun and not bad for a first attempt. Guess with the upgrades it's sort of a rogue-lite.

How do you think you'd rank the series thus far?

I am so envious you were able to play in VR for your first playthrough.

Turbam posted...

How do you think you'd rank the series thus far?

Hard to say with 7 so fresh in my mind (hell 6 and Revelations 2 are fairly fresh too since it's only been about a month and a half).

S Tier - REmake, 4, 7, 2
A Tier - Rev2, 1
B Tier - CvX, 3, 5
C Tier - 0, Umbrella Chronicles
D Tier - Darkside Chronicles, Rev1
F Tier - 6

That's a solid ass ranking
I think I'd personally move Rev 1 up a tier or two, but other than that I pretty much agree.
Still need to play Rev 2

Yeah everyone seems to like Revelations 1 more than me. Maybe I'm too hard on it, but upon replaying it I was just really frustrated with the combat. The dodge mechanic is terrible and enemy variety wasn't great. Story was pretty awful with a lot of characters and additions that didn't fit Resident Evil imo. The overall summary of the game is still very cool. Jill, Chris, spooky boat adventures filled with monsters. But the side characters almost all suck, there's a ridiculous amount of fake out deaths, everything to do with Terragrigia.

Game just left a sour taste in my mouth and my opinion on it's gone down over time. Probably would have landed in C Tier after my first playthrough on the 3DS.

Revelations 2 I absolutely loved though and wasn't expecting to. Gameplay is very tight (with a super useful and fully functioning dodge), good enemy variety, interesting story and episodic gimmick. Even the new characters introduced felt totally in place with the series. Felt like a sequel to RE5 honestly.

Alright so Not a Hero wasn't installed and took a while to download so played Banned Footage instead.

Beat Nightmare on my second try with relative ease.

Took FOREVER on Bedroom. Loved it, but jesus could I not figure out that lock combination and then took a long time on the shadow puzzle. But that was a really nice escape room side thing.

And finally I played 21. I already am a big enjoyer of blackjack so this was ridiculous, but I really liked it lol. Frustrated trying to win that final showdown, but that's by design. Even played the Survival mode for it. What a crazy idea for a side story piece of DLC. Minigames I guess.

I'll play the other ones tomorrow.

Fun fact: Nightmare, Bedroom, and 21 are all seemingly canon. Clancy Jarvis, the cameraman from those ghost hunters, is who you play as in all three. He's one of the most incredible people in the RE series.

Unfortunately, he's also the one you play as in the Happy Birthday tape, so he didn't exactly make it out alive.

pegusus123456 posted...

Fun fact: Nightmare, Bedroom, and 21 are all seemingly canon. Clancy Jarvis, the cameraman from those ghost hunters, is who you play as in all three. He's one of the most incredible people in the RE series.

Unfortunately, he's also the one you play as in the Happy Birthday tape, so he didn't exactly make it out alive.

Nightmare seems a bit over the top for poor Clancy, but both Bedroom and 21 fit. Also implies he never lost a single round in the first game of 21 since he has all his fingers so what a shark. Is a real shame he got it so hard in the end.

Was wondering if Hoffman was anyone mentioned anywhere else.

GameGodOfAll posted...

Damn soooo is Zoe just the straight up wrong choice? IIRC Zoe's fate is left open in the first ending. She says she's screwed, but we never see her turn to dust. Now both her and Mia are dead.

Yup. People were hopping mad about this when the game came out because there's a serious argument that Zoe was "better" moral choice given the situation.

But it's literally a binary good or bad ending button.

I'm conflicted. On one hand it does feel kinda lazy. On the other I'm kinda sick of games having "Moral Choices" were the same exact thing happens no matter what you pick. So in a way it was refreshing to literally have a correct decision

B Tier - CvX
D Tier - Rev1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMiYklHvjk

GameGodOfAll posted...

And finally I played 21. I already am a big enjoyer of blackjack so this was ridiculous, but I really liked it lol. Frustrated trying to win that final showdown, but that's by design. Even played the Survival mode for it. What a crazy idea for a side story piece of DLC. Minigames I guess.

I loved the 21 DLC. I did all the achievements. It's just so fun

UnfairRepresent posted...

I'm conflicted. On one hand it does feel kinda lazy. On the other I'm kinda sick of games having "Moral Choices" were the same exact thing happens no matter what you pick. So in a way it was refreshing to literally have a correct decision

Yeah I feel the same way (granted I do feel very good that I picked the good option so that helps).

I am very sick of multiple endings where they just swap characters in place with nothing else. Though for this I'd probably say there should have been some sort of warning or signs that you'd have to willingly have to ignore to make the bad choice. Like Mia warning you that it's too late for Zoe and the curse won't work. Would make you suspicious, but it'd actually be the truth.

Agreed.

Something to muddy the water with Zoe and an olive Branch with Mia would have gone a long way. Mia is established to have been lying to Ethan, up to something and incredibly shady. While Zoe has spent the entire game helping you as your only ally.

It's a bit stark that abandoning Zoe was flat out the right call. It's not even clear how Evie was able to kill Zoe after she took the cure.

I assume she was just "Too far gone" for the cure to work but that's never actually established and kind of odd since Mia lived in the house with the mold while Zoe stayed outside of it.

UnfairRepresent posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoMiYklHvjk

Already ranted enough against Revelations ITT.

CVX I like quite a bit. It has big dumb problems, but damn do I just love that classic ass RE style and it's the last game that has it. Love Claire. Really like the island layout. Return of Wesker. Yes it has Alfred and Steve (the worst), but I think Alexia is decent and her big dumb fire mansion battle with Wesker. Also has the best knife.

Played Daughters and liked it a lot. (shocker)

Was great seeing everything go to hell through the eyes of Zoe and man I don't think Evie was ever anything but bad. More ya see of her, the less sympathetic she gets. The bad ending was rough, but I liked figuring out the good path. One downside though was trying to see Lucas' phone screen in VR. This might be a me problem cause I wear glasses, but take them off when playing in VR. This does make small text impossible for me to read, so trying to make out what the phone password was was too hard for me.

Playing Not a Hero now and wow they did a great job of making Chris feel different. Feels so much faster and tougher. Have the big dumb punch finisher to stunned enemies. His gloves look dumb though.

Glad we are going for Lucas. He's another one I'm not feeling too sorry for. Jack had a little redemption moment with the Ethan hallucination and both her and Margarete seemed nice enough pre-Evie. Lucas...kinda seems like a dick period. His laptop didn't do him any favors.

I'm wondering if he was feeding information to someone before he was infected or all after. I'd assume after, but I'm surprised he'd be able to while under Evie's control/influence.

CHRIS IS SO BAD AT RESCUING PEOPLE. This is seriously his RE6 story all over again lol. Everyone on his team just frigging dies.

So he is still with the BSAA, but they are now working with a reformed Umbrella which is made up of a lot of former employees looking to right the wrongs the old Umbrella made. They kept the name to own the mistakes of the past. I suppose that could work, but idk dawg. I think rebranding might be in order. But at least that clears that up. I guess Neo-Umbrella might be dead.

The gimmicks here all work, but the night vision tripwire laser minefield in VR is extra effective. Big fat boss enemy was solid. Good race against the clock moment getting the bomb off.

Something to note about the behind the scenes of Not A Hero:

It was free DLC and the game originally ended with an advert promoting it but it was delayed twice from it's original release date despite being "Finished" because the devs thought it was shit.

And putting aside whether or not the DLC in it's final state is good or not. I can't really think of any other example of FREE completed DLC being delayed due to quality control because the creators thought it wasn't up to snuff.

I cannot imagine EA or Bethesda doing that.

GameGodOfAll posted...

. One downside though was trying to see Lucas' phone screen in VR.

You know I always wondered why they made Lucas' phone screen password so obvious in the game. I never put 2 and 2 together that there were probably thinking of VR players <_< (I didn't play in VR)

GameGodOfAll posted...

Glad we are going for Lucas. He's another one I'm not feeling too sorry for. Jack had a little redemption moment with the Ethan hallucination and both her and Margarete seemed nice enough pre-Evie. Lucas...kinda seems like a dick period. His laptop didn't do him any favors.

I'm wondering if he was feeding information to someone before he was infected or all after. I'd assume after, but I'm surprised he'd be able to while under Evie's control/influence.

RE7 spoilers:

Lucas WASN'T under Evie's influence throughout all of RE7. He was just that evil. The researchers in the mines "Cured" him quite early on so he could report Evie's activities to them.

Lucas is a complete psychopath. The researchers in the mines cured him of Evie's influence and he played both sides. He pretended to still be infected to keep Evie happy while studying her. He loved the mold powers, he loved torturing people like Clancy. He even directly tells Ethan this on the TV "Not all of us want to go back to the way things were!"

He also bossed around the Connections scientists he was working for AND made contiegency plans to sell out their research to a rival company because he knew he would be expendable when Evie expired.

You even find a note from him as a child talking about how he trapped a friend in the attic and laughed as they slowly starved to death. Then how badly the corpse smelt. (How the heck Jack and Marge didn't hear the child banging in the attic or smell the corpse is unexplained)

He is just an evil irredeemable colossal doucebag.

It's weird that Jack doesn't seem to know it

Made it to the lab.

How the hell was Lucas lead researcher? How much did he know? Was he in on this from the start?

Also I was curious if the Bakers would have went back to normal with Evie dead. Wonder if Lucas DID go back and he's still a psychopath or was there just no change for him to begin with?

Well so much for taking him in alive. Guess whatever group he was working with or trying to sell to was just called "The Connection". Decent final boss fight. Bit bullet spongey, but I had plenty of ammo and heals (not that I needed many). I do like that Lucas didn't seem to want to turn into a giant monster like most RE villains though. Just couldn't stop it after he was dying.

Good stuff. Fun piece of DLC and that's it for Lucas Baker.

Time to find out what happened with Zoe I assume. End of Zoe time.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Lucas WASN'T under Evie's influence throughout all of RE7. He was just that evil. The researchers in the mines "Cured" him quite early on so he could report Evie's activities to them.

Oh wow. What a piece of shit.

UnfairRepresent posted...

You even find a note from him as a child talking about how he trapped a friend in the attic and laughed as they slowly starved to death. Then how badly the corpse smelt. (How the heck Jack and Marge didn't hear the child banging in the attic or smell the corpse is unexplained)

Riiiiiiight. At the time I had no clue what the timeframe was on when they became infected or who exactly was who, so I assumed that was after the fact, but yeah. Wow. Lucas was the worst. Glad Chris blew his damn head off. Jack really should have paid a bit more attention.

I like that though. Does add a wrinkle that complicates things a bit, but Lucas did always come off as the worst of the fam. I'm surprised he was able to gain so much power with the lab, but I guess whoever was in charge didn't care how bad he was.

Thanks for clearing it all up.

honestly I didn't like the Lucas final boss fight

After a whole game of him teasing Ethan and pulling strings from the shadows and then a whole DLC of him out-smarting Chris. Going "Rargh, I'm a generic blob monster now" just felt... uninspired and anti-climatic. Just felt like "Man we gotta have a blob monster, it's Resident Evil"

I feel like they could have been more creative

So the good ending with Mia surviving is canon.

What the fuck is this punching crazy woods man combo shit? lol

So Joe Baker is just insanely tough and gritty? He can just pulverize these things with his bare hands? Damn. Might actually be a match for Chris 1v1.

Glad Zoe's crystallization mutation had the good taste to cover up the naughty bits first. Pretty pleased we are hopefully going to save her though. Zoe didn't deserve to die. Was very much like Luis in 4 now that I think about it. Hopefully this crazy old bastard can save her.

Chucking spears at gators. Eating bugs. I hope the final boss is just Punch Out.

I wasn't too far off with Punch Out. Fighting this fucking swamp thing ass mold who is doing crazy combos. This shit's ridiculous.

POWERBOMB!

Oh my god it's fucking Jack.

THAT explains why this one molded is fucking punching and kicking and doing combos. Mannn.

As someone with very mild claustrophobia and a dumb fear of being buried alive, being in that coffin in VR got to me a bit.

Oh jesus christ what the hell is this power glove? This whole campaign is just clown shoes. Does feel good though.

Hurray! Zoe's alive, Chris is here and Ethan kept his promise. Happy endings all around.

And that was Resident Evil 7.

So neither piece of DLC holds a candle to the main campaign, but I credit them for not just doing more of the same. They were very much different modes. Almost different genres even. It's...kinda like RE6 actually. Only with very fun gameplay and an enjoyable story.

Why was Chris' called Not a Hero btw? Chris is like the biggest hero in the world and has saved the planet anywhere between 3 and 6 times.

End of Zoe was fucking cheese balls, but didn't go full on wink at the camera comedy or Evil Dead. Joe's tone was always serious still and the nonsense that went down actually made sense really. Very different and fun.

All I've got left are Ethan Must Die and Jack's Birthday which idk when I'll play. All the bonus gameplay modes, going for trophies, etc. I'll do 'em all eventually, but I think this might be it for now. What a game. Hell of a collection of DLC too. I actually liked the Banned Footage stuff the most, but it was all good bonus content. Nothing at all that felt ripped out of the main game or needed for closure. Yes, Lucas never got handled with Ethan, but that honestly never bothered me. Maybe a little bit of personal revenge would have helped like just Ethan slapping him around a bit or even giant mutant Jack yeeting him.

So that's it then. Thanks to everyone who posted and gave me info. Absolutely loved the game overall. It's the scariest Resident Evil. It has some of the best gameplay in the franchise and it could actually potentially be my favorite. I can see an argument being made for it being the best honestly. Too fresh to fairly judge, but it's top tier for sure.

The plan to continue on with the series is next October, finally bite into RE2 Remake and possibly 3.

Yeah Joe Baker is possibly the toughest non infected character in all of RE.

Why you only playing in October?
GameGodOfAll posted...

Why was Chris' called Not a Hero btw? Chris is like the biggest hero in the world and has saved the planet anywhere between 3 and 6 times.

Yeah no idea on that. Chris spends the entire game being ridiclously heoric.

I think it was because he was working for Umbrella but the game did absolutely nothing morally grey or non-heroic at all. He's literally the most heoric character in the series.

It's just how he feels. This is what, the third time he's had an entire squad killed?

He's like HUNK except he feels bad about their deaths and doesn't consider himself a hero for that reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNemCJYRRTM