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Scarecrow17
10/11/23 10:15:20 PM
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People lately seem to think that I'm juicing so I'm just curious what strangers on the internet think. I'll post some before and after pics below.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/4/AAe9DEAAE7LU.jpg

This was me at the age of 21. As you can clearly see from my messy room, I was not doing well. Dropped out of college, fired from my job, and so on.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/5/AAe9DEAAE7LV.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/6/AAe9DEAAE7LW.jpg

This is current me at the age of 25 as a Graduate student. The top pic is my default state in the morning after waking up. The pic right below is me a few hours post workout and full of food.

Hopefully, you answered the poll before reading this part of this post but I don't take steroids. I don't even go as far as to take pre-workout. I go to the gym completely raw. I just exercise moderate to vigorously and monitor what I eat. I count my calories, protein, carbs, fats, and so on. I personally don't think my physique is crazy or anything. I look alright. If you still think I'm roiding then that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Touch
10/11/23 10:16:21 PM
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I need close up shots of your nipples to confirm

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Damn_Underscore
10/11/23 10:17:25 PM
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lol at the perspective of the first pic. It looks like you are the same size as the DBZ DVD set

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Dungeater
10/11/23 10:21:11 PM
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idk what a steroid user looks like tbh, i wouldnt assume it about u. u just look like a really fit guy

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KitKats
10/11/23 10:22:17 PM
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Looks like you can knock a mother fucker out if they come steppin wrong

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Sorozone
10/11/23 10:23:56 PM
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Need more info. How long have you been lifting?

Going from that to that in a 3-4 years seems completely normal even if you aren't going on a consistent schedule. That to That in 6 months to a year, yeah I'd say you were probably taking something.

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Heineken14
10/11/23 10:25:41 PM
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Dude over here thinking we aint gonna notice him just blatantly posting pics of prime Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner.

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KitKats
10/11/23 10:29:24 PM
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We call him

the sax macheen

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cjsdowg
10/11/23 10:34:19 PM
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You look very cut, but normally are not people who riod up more beefy ? Note this isn't meant as disrespect, you look like a Black Finn Balor . So mad ups.

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Villain_S_Fiend
10/11/23 10:35:59 PM
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Looks like you need a damn bookshelf.

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dioxxys
10/11/23 10:37:01 PM
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No
Also steroids not only make your muscles bigger but they make your organs bigger too, that's why they got that stomach bulge
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Scarecrow17
10/11/23 10:37:54 PM
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Touch posted...
I need close up shots of your nipples to confirm

Zoom in?

Damn_Underscore posted...
lol at the perspective of the first pic. It looks like you are the same size as the DBZ DVD set

It does yeah. Never noticed that before

Dungeater posted...
idk what a steroid user looks like tbh, i wouldnt assume it about u. u just look like a really fit guy

I see. Thank you for your honesty.

KitKats posted...
Looks like you can knock a mother fucker out if they come steppin wrong

I did take some boxing lessons purely for self defense purposes but hopefully it will never come to that point.

Sorozone posted...
Need more info. How long have you been lifting?

Going from that to that in a 3-4 years seems completely normal even if you aren't going on a consistent schedule. That to That in 6 months to a year, yeah I'd say you were probably taking something.

I've been consistent from 2020 until now. Even during lockdowns, I was a few weights at home so I could still exercise. In 2019, I was on and off due to being new at the gym and having no idea what I was doing.

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GranTurismo
10/11/23 10:39:18 PM
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
Looks like you need a damn bookshelf.
This. And how hard are steroids to come by? Can you get them legally...etc...?
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Scarecrow17
10/11/23 10:49:15 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Dude over here thinking we aint gonna notice him just blatantly posting pics of prime Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner.

I wish I knew who that was.

KitKats posted...
We call him

the sax macheen

If only women in real life would approach me. I still have to make the first move 90% of the time.

cjsdowg posted...
You look very cut, but normally are not people who riod up more beefy ? Note this isn't meant as disrespect, you look like a Black Finn Balor . So mad ups.

My thoughts exactly. The people I've seen at various gyms on roids are much larger and fuller. You can still be on steroids and have a more lean look depending on a lot of factors from my understanding but usually, steroid lifters are bigger. Thank you for the compliment.

Villain_S_Fiend posted...
Looks like you need a damn bookshelf.

I bought one in 2021.

dioxxys posted...
No
Also steroids not only make your muscles bigger but they make your organs bigger too, that's why they got that stomach bulge

True, but that takes a bit of time to happen, right? Some of the guys at my current gym are using steroids but they're still very lean but they're still very young. One of them is 20 and he looks far older than me already.

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Heineken14
10/11/23 10:50:57 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
I wish I knew who that was.


He's also a mathematician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msDuNZyYAIQ

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KitKats
10/11/23 10:52:44 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
If only women in real life would approach me. I still have to make the first move 90% of the time.
That 10% is probably still a good 10% better than like 50% of the guys on CE.

Its all about perspective.

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Scarecrow17
10/11/23 10:58:50 PM
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GranTurismo posted...
This. And how hard are steroids to come by? Can you get them legally...etc...?

They're easy to get. Many of the steroid users at a gym will point you in the right direction if you ask them. You can buy them online, through personal trainers, coaches, etc. I believe many steroids are illegal without a prescription but nobody will probably bust you for taking them. It's becoming more common in the fitness industry to be on some sort of enhancement these days.

Despite the obvious dangers of steroids, a lot of people still take them to get fast results. Unfortunately, quite a few people don't take for the long term.

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Right, I'd have to sacrifice leanness to put on a lot of mass. I don't think a bigger look would suit me personally

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Glob
10/11/23 10:59:15 PM
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Not at all. Your muscle mass doesnt exactly look huge (not meant as an insult). The thing about your body that stand out is that your body fat percentage is impressive, more than muscle mass.
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KitKats
10/11/23 11:06:39 PM
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You look perfect

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Arcanine2009
10/11/23 11:17:13 PM
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Nope. Nothing to me screams steroids. When, I think of steroids, I think of huge muscles on them (usually), and a fast gain in a short amount of time. The muscles also look really weird.

That being said I don't know if steroids=automatic big. Duration matters. Obviously eating more makes lty big.

You just look really cut/low body fat and that's pretty reasonable to get in 4 years.

https://muscleandbrawn.com/anabolics/spot-someone-on-steroids/

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candyapplered
10/11/23 11:32:40 PM
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dioxxys posted...
No
Also steroids not only make your muscles bigger but they make your organs bigger too, that's why they got that stomach bulge
wrong. the stomach bulge is usually from growth hormone. sometimes they fucked around and had too many carbs before a show.

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emblem-man
10/11/23 11:35:40 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
I personally don't think my physique is crazy or anything.

Lol, ok bro

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--Zero-
10/11/23 11:40:11 PM
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You got a good physique and it doesn't look like steroids. It does look like you're taking some kind of performance enhancer is all. I remember your past issues and it's good you've made it through that college life and was able to move on.

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mazingetter
10/11/23 11:44:31 PM
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Get your room in order.
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Naysaspace
10/11/23 11:46:15 PM
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like 90% of others i voted on the first pic, "no"
but i can see why some people think you might be
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TripleDouble
10/11/23 11:56:42 PM
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Height?

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bnui_ransder
10/11/23 11:59:08 PM
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Looks like lean, toned muscle to me, not steroids at all

People are just jealous and use steroids as a way to dismiss your effort

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modena
10/12/23 12:01:17 AM
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Why you in you're Moms bathroom?

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Jiek_Fafn
10/12/23 12:04:43 AM
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Doesn't look like steroids at all, but I remember someone here awhile back accusing you of it. Youve posted puctures here over the years and youve had pretty reasonable results that would just come from hard work. You'd probably be huge on steroids.

Anyway, your arms look bigger than I remember. So grats on that

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Nirvanas_Nox
10/12/23 12:04:48 AM
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No you don't look like it to me. However I'm super jealous of how long your hair is. Mine grows to a certain point then it slows way the hell down. I always end up with a mini fro. Usually takes me a year after that point to get anything like cornrows.

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Damn_Underscore
10/12/23 12:11:23 AM
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modena posted...
Why you in you're Moms bathroom?

lol

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King_Rial
10/12/23 12:13:16 AM
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Brah, I don't know how to say this, and don't let me make you uncomfortable, but you hot as fuck, dude.

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Scarecrow17
10/12/23 12:30:11 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
He's also a mathematician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msDuNZyYAIQ

Interesting

KitKats posted...
That 10% is probably still a good 10% better than like 50% of the guys on CE.

Its all about perspective.

True. I think a lot of the lonelier men on CE have potential. They just need to work on themselves a bit. I would not have had the success with women I've experienced if I stayed in my room all day and hated myself like back in 2019.

Glob posted...
Not at all. Your muscle mass doesnt exactly look huge (not meant as an insult). The thing about your body that stands out is that your body fat percentage is impressive, more than muscle mass.

I wouldn't have taken it as an insult. Yeah, maintaining a low body fat percentage year round is hard haha. I definitely don't recommend it unless you don't see the usual side effects that stem from being lean. Thank you for the compliment.

KitKats posted...
You look perfect

Thank you.

Arcanine2009 posted...
Nope. Nothing to me screams steroids. When, I think of steroids, I think of huge muscles on them (usually), and a fast gain in a short amount of time. The muscles also look really weird.

That being said I don't know if steroids=automatic big. Duration matters. Obviously eating more makes lty big.

You just look really cut/low body fat and that's pretty reasonable to get in 4 years.

https://muscleandbrawn.com/anabolics/spot-someone-on-steroids/

Aside from health reasons, one of the biggest motivators for me to stay away from steroids is hair loss. I love my hair so much that I'd rather not take the risk. If I end up going bald later in life, then it should be at the right time naturally.

emblem-man posted...
Lol, ok bro

I was being serious but I often compare myself to fitness influencers online since a lot of my YouTube and social media feed is fitness related. I tend to watch a lot of videos on correct form, dieting, and so on. I'm exposed to a lot of people who look very good,

--Zero- posted...
You got a good physique and it doesn't look like steroids. It does look like you're taking some kind of performance enhancer is all. I remember your past issues and it's good you've made it through that college life and was able to move on.

I could see an argument for me taking a performance enhancer. People do come to me sometimes and ask me how I can go from bench pressing to heavy squats to weighted pull-ups all within the same workout.

Yes, I'm glad that everything from my past worked out in the end. Self improvement and slowly working on bettering yourself every day does wonders for your life. Hitting rock bottom gave me new perspective on life. I realized that I wasn't taking care of myself and I was making poor decisions. I am glad that you remembered those times. It shows that you cared.


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EyeWontBeFooled
10/12/23 12:38:55 AM
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1st pic looked like you had a cut going, but you needed to eat a damn sandwich. You certainly looked haggard, my dood.

2nd pic is Fiiiiiiine :3

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Henry_Townsend
10/12/23 12:54:33 AM
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You don't look roided, but your body looks freaking great!

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Scarecrow17
10/12/23 12:58:08 AM
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mazingetter posted...
Get your room in order.

That's not my room anymore. My current room is better and more organized. I'm a lot neater these days.

Naysaspace posted...
like 90% of others i voted on the first pic, "no"
but i can see why some people think you might be

I try to see it from other people's perspectives if I can. I would respond better if people asked me if I was on something or not but usually, it's accusations from the start.

TripleDouble posted...
Height?

Sadly, I come in at 5'8 and I'm currently at 151.8 lbs

bnui_ransder posted...
Looks like lean, toned muscle to me, not steroids at all

People are just jealous and use steroids as a way to dismiss your effort

I've thought that as well. It's a shame because I'm always down to help anyone reach their goals especially for exercise.

modena posted...
Why you in you're Moms bathroom?

My Mom's bathroom is actually way bigger but she likes to decorate every room in the house. If it was up to me, that bathroom would be plain but it's not my house.

Jiek_Fafn posted...
Doesn't look like steroids at all, but I remember someone here awhile back accusing you of it. Youve posted puctures here over the years and youve had pretty reasonable results that would just come from hard work. You'd probably be huge on steroids.

Anyway, your arms look bigger than I remember. So grats on that

Right, I remember that user who thought I was on steroids. I'm cool with him(I think) these days thankfully. Yeah, on steroids, I would probably look massive in terms of muscle.

I've been hitting arms a lot more lately. I wasn't satisfied with them so I switched up my routine a bit and it seems to be working. Thank you.

Nirvanas_Nox posted...
No you don't look like it to me. However I'm super jealous of how long your hair is. Mine grows to a certain point then it slows way the hell down. I always end up with a mini fro. Usually takes me a year after that point to get anything like cornrows.

How long would you say that your hair is? If you had to guess? My hair tends to grow fast and some of the hair strands go almost to the floor. I think mini fros are great. It can take a while to get my hair ready for the day.

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Scarecrow17
10/12/23 1:11:18 AM
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King_Rial posted...
Brah, I don't know how to say this, and don't let me make you uncomfortable, but you hot as fuck, dude.

Thank you. Nah, you're good. I don't think it's strange at all.

EyeWontBeFooled posted...
1st pic looked like you had a cut going, but you needed to eat a damn sandwich. You certainly looked haggard, my dood.

2nd pic is Fiiiiiiine :3

That first pic was right after waking up with nothing ate yet. I think the second pic is more or less what I usually look like for most of the waking day.

Henry_Townsend posted...
You don't look roided, but your body looks freaking great!

Thank you.

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Nirvanas_Nox
10/12/23 5:59:46 PM
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Scarecrow17 posted...


How long would you say that your hair is? If you had to guess? My hair tends to grow fast and some of the hair strands go almost to the floor. I think mini fros are great. It can take a while to get my hair ready for the day.

If I had to guess so far about 4 inches. Planning on straightening it when it's log enough. Lol I have to deal with the loose hair all the time. Every time I pick it out there's a ton.

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Scarecrow17
10/12/23 9:31:06 PM
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
If I had to guess so far about 4 inches. Planning on straightening it when it's log enough. Lol I have to deal with the loose hair all the time. Every time I pick it out there's a ton.

Yeah, I feel your pain in that one. My hair becomes loose at the day goes by. I have to take a few minutes to pick it out every few hours. Otherwise, long strands will begin to hang down my face.

Im not sure what your hair looks like but itll hopefully look great once its straightened out.

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Nirvanas_Nox
10/13/23 12:44:48 AM
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Scarecrow17 posted...
Yeah, I feel your pain in that one. My hair becomes loose at the day goes by. I have to take a few minutes to pick it out every few hours. Otherwise, long strands will begin to hang down my face.

Im not sure what your hair looks like but itll hopefully look great once its straightened out.

I'm part Korean so when it's straight it's slightly curly at roots and straight on the ends. Normally it's pretty tight packed curly. Super manageable when it's short and at best an annoyance when it's long and not straightend

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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 12:47:38 AM
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One of the giveaways for steroid use when bulking up is the "ballooned" shoulders, which I'm not really seeing.

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NightMarishPie
10/13/23 12:47:38 AM
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I've lifted for 10+ years, and you do not look like you do steroids. Your body and physique are amazing. So whatever you're doing, keep it up, but you don't look like you do steroids.

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faizan_faizan
10/13/23 1:18:11 AM
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Lifts?

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deathproof12
10/13/23 1:24:55 AM
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You have good ab genetics. Besides that nothing is crazy about your body after 4 years of training.
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Dark_Arbron
10/13/23 2:09:50 AM
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I admit Im a little envious of people that can achieve results like this.

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GGuirao13
10/13/23 4:53:43 AM
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No.

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Ricemills
10/13/23 5:07:44 AM
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Nah, definitely doesn't look like it.

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Scarecrow17
10/13/23 8:41:58 AM
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
I'm part Korean so when it's straight it's slightly curly at roots and straight on the ends. Normally it's pretty tight packed curly. Super manageable when it's short and at best an annoyance when it's long and not straightend

Hm, it sounds like you have great hair. As you said before though, growing it out is the hard part. I think I lucked out with fast growing, thick hair. Not even my siblings have hair like mine.

Dark_Arbron posted...
One of the giveaways for steroid use when bulking up is the "ballooned" shoulders, which I'm not really seeing.

True, I dont have those boulder shoulders some steroids users have.

NightMarishPie posted...
I've lifted for 10+ years, and you do not look like you do steroids. Your body and physique are amazing. So whatever you're doing, keep it up, but you don't look like you do steroids.

Thank you. It took a while to figure out what works for me. I did a lot of experimenting early on and I still do just to make the routine fresh.

faizan_faizan posted...
Lifts?

I do a variety of different lifts but for each muscle group, I aim for 8-12 working sets. For chest, I always do two different pressing movements with dumbbells(flat and incline) and some type of chest fly. Occasionally, Ill do weighted dips.

For back, I always do weighted pull-ups. In my opinion, thats a really good lift for making your back thick and defined. It also gives a fantastic biceps and forearms burn. Ill do a horizontal pull like a seated row. Some days, Ill do rack pulls to switch it up. For lower back, I spam back raises towards the end of the workout while holding a few plates.

For legs, back squats and Bulgarian split squats. Ill also do leg extensions, seated leg curls, and single leg RDLs. Standing calf raises at the end of the workout are superb.

For biceps, aside form pull-ups and chin-ups, Ill do some type of curling movement. Ill usually stand against a wall while curling so I dont swing and use momentum. I do all of my triceps work at the cable machine. Triceps push down with a bar and a rope and then triceps overhead extension with the rope.

For shoulders, I like to do a standing military press usually with the barbell if one is available but dumbbells work as well. I spam lateral raises and rear deltoid flies as well.

For forearms, I mainly do farmers walks for 30 seconds to 1 minute but my forearms get worked a lot during weighted pull-ups. Abs is just cable crunches, decline weighted sit-ups slow and controlled, and hanging leg raises.

deathproof12 posted...
You have good ab genetics. Besides that nothing is crazy about your body after 4 years of training.

Thanks and true. I think something like mine is achievable with enough hard work over a few years.

Dark_Arbron posted...
I admit Im a little envious of people that can achieve results like this.

Im not sure what your starting base is but you can probably do it as well. The hardest part is consistency with exercising and watching what you eat. The hardest part for me was cutting down on fast food significantly and learning how to properly cook healthy meals.


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Scarecrow17
10/13/23 8:42:46 AM
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GGuirao13 posted...
No.

Ricemills posted...
Nah, definitely doesn't look like it.

Thanks for the honesty.

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