Poll of the Day > Is it time for another Final Fantasy MMORPG?

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No, FFXIV is still going strong, and they've said they have plans for further expansions and features for about 10 years. I don't doubt there will be another FF MMO eventually, but now is not the time.

FF14 is still pretty awesome, dunno why they would do this yet. if any MMO needs a sequel or reboot, it's WoW. fuck ABK though.

where the FUCK is the ff11 reboot we were promised

i dont care if it got cancelled, uncancel it

As much as I like and still play FFXIV, I think it's time for something new. It's time to rejuvenate the online scene with new themes, new lore, jobs that are balanced without being copy-and-paste as some of XIV's jobs are starting to feel. A crafting system that goes back to feeling like a mini-game without relying on rng for the illusion of challenge. An achievements system that isn't reliant on some combination of luck and the grind (no, I don't want to spend 30+ hours mindlessly doing a task to fill a progress bar that barely tingles when it is filled).

No, I hope we never get another one again.

I think a lot of the problems that FFXIV is facing right now stems from the pandemic, and lockdowns and all of that. Endwalker has shaped up to be the weakest expansion so far, but I'm hoping Dawntrail can avoid a lot of the problems Endwalker has had. It's a general lack of content to keep you occupied, and the content they do release gets chewed through extremely quickly. And idk how many here have done any Savage raiding in Endwalker. Savage has been a damn mess all expac. From bizarre to outright bad fight and mechanic design, to reused mechanics and animations, non-existent balance, bugs out the wazzoo. Like I said, I think the problem is that this content was designed during covid, I'm hoping Dawntrail is a return to form. The game isn't bad, it's just currently going through rough spot.

Why?

The only reason you got XIV at all instead of XI just going on forever is because they completely screwed the pooch on XI and had to redo everything all over again just to get people to play.

FFXIV is successful and popular, so there's no reason to reboot.

It's the same reason why we never really got WoW2.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The only reason you got XIV at all instead of XI just going on forever is because they completely screwed the pooch on XI and had to redo everything all over again just to get people to play.

It was probably more they were beginning to hit hard physical limitations. Being designed for old consoles started becoming a huge issue as the number of working PS2 devkits (that's what the game's built on btw) dwindled, and they even started having to free up space in old/unused content because they simply didn't have enough slots for any new abilities and enemies.

It's honestly sorcery how 11's managed to squeak by this past decade and somehow become more successful.

Final Fantasy hasn't lived rent free in my mind in over a decade now.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The only reason you got XIV at all instead of XI just going on forever is because they completely screwed the pooch on XI and had to redo everything all over again just to get people to play.

Not quite. It's more like the same couple of devs in charge of XI were asked to do another MMO, just for the sake of doing another MMO. They did it, ad what they made was one of the worst messes in online gaming history. XI had its flaws in spades, but it was playable and had some good to it; XIV 1.0 did not. 1.0 was the one that screwed the pooch and required a nuclear option, a la., Bahamut, to break away from at least half of 1.0's problems at the time.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

FFXIV is successful and popular, so there's no reason to reboot.

XIV has been successful and popular. People are less invested in the patches' main story for this expansion, the hardcore raid scene is kind of hurting, and even longtime achievement hunters like myself are either walking away entirely to play other things or doubling down on their playtime and endless grinding like so many victims of sunk cost fallacy before them. If the next expansion fails to entice people to keep playing, its popularity will fall.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It's the same reason why we never really got WoW2.

Again, no. WoW has been going downhill, with different still-going players saying different later expansions were better for X, Y, Z reasons (most of which sound dull at best). The reason we never got a WoW2 is because Acti-Blizz wrote themselves into a rotting storm drain in the middle of an island populated only with Resident Evil 4 villagers, and all prospects of reboots or future games in the Warcraft world are long since gone; and then made even worse by Acti-Blizz having such bad financial decisions that they require market trickery to both look good and continue paying Bobby more in a month than everyone else at Acti-Blizz makes in a handful of years.

Yes we need Final Fantasy Tactic Online.