Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXV: Day 48 [smfffc]

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Noted reliable saver pjbasis

we make champions out here

you might remember i posted this panel a couple days ago

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/5/AAeYFbAAEsoZ.jpg

but i left out the preceding panels that might be relevant today

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/7/AAeYFbAAEsob.jpg

sub-30 minute H2s the next two days imo so that could further complicate pj's ambitions

Leonhart4 posted...

Any former champion elimination is by default spicy

Disagree? Former champ with consistent strong recent performance history sure, but Cloud going out now would be a nothing burger imo.

Yeah the Fang elimination was pretty bland. Also is Reno not even making the contest a 1,000,000 on the Scoville ranking? I'm with Martin. Former champ elimination is only spicy if they had the support and the elimination was a fluke because of a missing saver or something. The Tidus support was not there this time around, but maybe I'll be feeling it next contest. Who knows?

Any champion going out is spicy tbqh

Doesn't matter their current status

It's a party when the final champion falls imo

Marche makes nomination topics spicy every year when he fails to get in.

Stand up for #Marche2024

Damn. I knew he wasnt going places this contest, but a top half finish would've been nice. Where is the FFX love this year? Only 2 entrants in the top half (potentially). Is that a record low?

Inviso made a wish on a shooting star...

Apparently claiming an elimination is spicy is what's actually spicy.

Damn, sad to see Tidus go down already.

If andy didn't wake up and Ghido was eliminated that would've been 100% spicy imo (though in-line with FFV's misfortunes this contest, I was sweating for a bit there)

GenesisSaga posted...

Yeah the Fang elimination was pretty bland.

Fang elimination was a mayo sandwich, but damn if I don't love mayonnaise.

MartinFF7 posted...

Disagree? Former champ with consistent strong recent performance history sure, but Cloud going out now would be a nothing burger imo.

Did people stop celebrating when Cloud and Sephiroth lose now?

i'm always happy when seph dies

cloud's fine

Well I wasn't around last year but nobody cared the prior years, he's good for a middle-of-the-pack finish somewhere and anyone who was saving him moves on. That time is coming soon, indeed... but thx for saving him today at least!

Sephiroth hasn't won (yet) so bad analogy

I still think Seph is a spicy definition in general, former champ or not

Ok, I just did the math. This has been a historically bad showing for FFX this contest. We aren't even at the halfway point in the contest, but if we assume the remaining two entrants make it through, that will be the lowest amount of FFXers in the upper half since contest V, where top 30 was the cutoff for upper half.

Since contest XIV, when the tourney expanded to 100 entrants, FFX has averaged 6.2 top half placements over the 11 contests (not including this one). FFX has had no fewer than 4 in the top half during that time and that happened only once. It has had as many as 8.

So only getting 2 in the top half is, quite frankly, a record low showing for FFX.

sounds like enough spice to make my chicken sandwich taste better

We're really arguing if this is spicy after Tidus finished 4th last year?

People will say what they don't like is spicy there is no objective spice meter

Guess we really do need to push Braska and Yuna next contest.

That being said yes Tidus is spicy imo

But IMO it's like saying "ooh spicy" about a jar of hot sauce that is called spicy sauce with a giant pepper on it and boldly says how spicy it is all over the bottle

No shit it's spicy good observations chief. The label was clearly visible for like 30 rounds now.

It's not surprising at all this year.

v_charon posted...

I'm not sure where you're gathering that. Tidus had like no main supporter this year, it's amazing he limped around this long. Seymour inherits all 0 of Tidus mains though, I'm stoked.

Haha, I had the same thought. What's funny is that during Seymour's deep runs, I felt like his biggest competition, or obstacle, was other FFXers that were still in the contest. So in theory a silver lining would be that Seymour will have more breathing room going down the stretch, but the reality is that the appetite for FFX is so low this season among the voter pool that I don't think it matters. Even Rikku is showing signs of trouble already with an iron man recently and sticking around pretty long in this round. Me and charon will carry Seymour as far as we can, but the outlook definitely seems bleak this year.

TIDUS

CI - 26/40
CII - 34/45
CIII - 24/50
CIV - 36/55
CV - 12/60
CVI - 22/65
CVII - 6/70
CVIII - 7/75
CIX - 11/75
CX - 19/75
CXI - 9/75
CXII - 4/75
CXIII - 27/75
CXIV - 8/102
CXV - 9/100
CXVI - 1/100 [def. Kefka, 357-350]
CXVII - 29/100
CXVIII - 64/100
CXIX - 7/100
CXX - 20/100
CXXI - 54/100
CXXII - 13/100
CXXIII - 26/100
CXXIV - 4/100
CXXV - 53/100

overall STATS: 73.05% / down 1.04% - 11th/134 (down 2)
newSTATS: 77.01% / down 2.64% - 7th/113 (down 2)
leftySTATS: 72.67% / down 4.93% - 14th/113 (down 4)

Maniac64 posted...

Guess we really do need to push Braska and Yuna next contest.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/1/8/AAeYFbAAEso6.jpg

th3l3fty posted...

overall STATS: 73.05% / down 1.04% - 11th/134 (down 2)

"knocked out of the top 10" is a pretty objective measure of spice

to be fair, tidus getting knocked out of the top 10 was pretty much inevitable this year barring perhaps another super deep run.

Weren't 7-10 super closely packed. I'm not sure it is

th3l3fty posted...

overall STATS: 73.05% / down 1.04% - 11th/134 (down 2)

how could you guys let this happen smh

yeah, it's really tight and there's some newcomers poised to break the top 10 this year.

Great stats guffguy, thanks for sharing! FFX and FFV both having atypically rough years but X's is much more notable, for sure.

Mewtwo59 posted...

We're really arguing if this is spicy after Tidus finished 4th last year?

I don't think anyone's arguing this isn't spicy...? "All past champion eliminations are spicy" is the debate point.

Leonhart4 posted...

I still think Seph is a spicy definition in general, former champ or not

Agreed based on past two years (don't look 3 years ago) - still not sure how he got top 20 last year but I guess MWC was around for most or all of that run, in addition to Ulti carrying him?

guffguy89 posted...

Even Rikku is showing signs of trouble already with an iron man recently and sticking around pretty long in this round.

Rikku would probably be long dead if I didn't switch to maining her.

So, for those who care, Tidus could still temporarily sneak back into the top 10 if Rydia were to get eliminated soon, but Jessie, Ardyn, and Emet Selch are all going to be stats eligible by the end of the contest and, depending on their finishes, could place above Tidus, which is why I said earlier that he never really had a chance to stay in the top 10 this year.

Maniac64 posted...

Guess we really do need to push Braska and Yuna next contest.

I could get behind that!

Perhaps one could say it's spicy that Tidus lost all his main backers this year.

Also I forgot Yuna was already dead. That's more spicy.

If a former champ gets eliminated in top 10 that's not spicy right

a former champ getting eliminated as champion again would be pretty spicy

guffguy89 posted...

So, for those who care, Tidus could still temporarily sneak back into the top 10 if Rydia were to get eliminated soon, but Jessie, Ardyn, and Emet Selch are all going to be stats eligible by the end of the contest and, depending on their finishes, could place above Tidus, which is why I said earlier that he never really had a chance to stay in the top 10 this year.

I will note that Ardyn would need to set a new PB to pass Tidus, but Jessie is already a lock to pass him and Emet has a very realistic path to do so as well

(and then there's the turtle lurking on the horizon next year...)

MartinFF7 posted...

I don't think anyone's arguing this isn't spicy...?

people were arguing it isn't spicy on the basis of "you could see this coming from a mile away"

like sure if you want to argue the joke champions who never get in anymore wouldn't be spicy eliminations then fine but don't tell me Tidus going out isn't spicy if it's before the top half

Looking at those STATS, Tidus has gone out before the top 30 three times in the last 20 contests

So yeah, it's spicy

Leonhart4 posted...

Looking at those STATS, Tidus has gone out before the top 30 three times in the last 20 contests

So yeah, it's spicy

Ok Kendrick Perkins.

It's also 3 of the last 8.

v_charon posted...

Ok Kendrick Perkins.

It's also 3 of the last 8.

wow this is already my 8th contest of missing most rounds

Dang

v_charon posted...

Ok Kendrick Perkins.

It's also 3 of the last 8.

And his worst finish in the other 5 is 26th, and there are two top tens in there, too.

Not sure why you're trying to act like FFX's failings this contest aren't a big deal when someone has already said this is literally unprecedented.

I don't think he's saying that ALL of X shitting the bed isn't spicy (it is, and it's making me sad), just that the writing has been on the wall for Tidus for a hot minute now so it's hard to see that as "spicy" (it isn't for US at least). I mean I can see where you guys' arguments are coming from given his history in this contest, but I think Tidus going out at this stage IN THIS CONTEST IN PARTICULAR is a mere tingle on the tongue at best: no more exciting than Kefka, Auron, Kuja, or Zidane getting eliminated at this point. Not exactly bland, but hardly spicy either. I'mma just call this a mild elim. How about that?

Nah, I don't think "we saw it coming" factors into it. If it's a character with a strong history that we care about and they go out early, that's spicy.

In every contest, you can see which powerhouses "don't have it" that year, but it doesn't make it insignificant when they go out early. Otherwise you could just "ho-hum" every bottom 50 elimination because you don't go out this early unless you just have no support.

Fair enough, but I think we're going to have to agree to disagree here because I absolutely do think that factors in. Also we must have a different definition of early, because almost making the top half in a field of a hundred to me isn't comparable to say ... finishing in 96th and being subsequently booted from the ECC. I mean yeah it's a low and upsetting finish for Tidus in particular, but it's not surprising given that A) He's been here before, and B) His only main supporter for this contest lives in the Land of the Rising Sun, and participates in 1 in every 3 rounds at best.

Believe me I'm not trying to downplay his placement here because it's a pretty finish, and I'm very disappointed in us all because we shouldn't have let it happen for at least 3 more rounds, but if I was looking at a Thai food menu Tidus dropping out any time in the last dozen rounds would warrant one chili pepper out of a possible five

Mild AF unless you're like a white dude from Bumble-fuck Kansas who's never even SEEN Thai food before and has no idea what spicy even is. You wanna know what I think the spiciest elimination so far this contest has been? None. Gun to my head, I'd pick Yuna or Galuf because they've both recently placed in the top ten, and unlike Tidus this contest, they've had a main backer that just so happened to miss that round or otherwise drop the ball (and not nearly as regularly as the sole Tidus backer misses rounds). Still one pepper though.

I think everyone's just so desperate to see a spicy elimination that they're willing to deem anything even remotely mild as "spicy" because there ain't been much yet for XXV to date. This is no Teflon Yuffie getting hard booted. This is no Kefka, Yuna, or Auron leaving the ECC. This is no Lightning getting lawyered out before reaching the top ten when half the savers were clamoring for her "deserved" belated victory. Y'all wanna see some real spice? Get Aerith outta there before the top 20. Now THAT would be one a-spicy meat-a-ball (and probably one very unlikely to happen)! Cuz this? This ain't it, chiefs!

Genny out.

Nobody is trying to claim this is a five-alarm fire. It's just an interesting elimination because it's a guy who rarely goes out this early who has won before.

Like if yet another Mog goes out here, nobody cares and we've long since moved on to discussing something else.

Tidus is a little spicy I guess, but Cecil is the Carolina Reaper or whatever is the spiciest thing that exists now. Literally cannot ever top the spice level his elimination would have in this contest

Leonhart4 posted...

Nah, I don't think "we saw it coming" factors into it. If it's a character with a strong history that we care about and they go out early, that's spicy.

In every contest, you can see which powerhouses "don't have it" that year, but it doesn't make it insignificant when they go out early. Otherwise you could just "ho-hum" every bottom 50 elimination because you don't go out this early unless you just have no support.

He hasn't really had it since he won the thing, alternating between high finishes and barely below top 50 (which he just did again)

CXVII - 29/100
CXVIII - 64/100
CXIX - 7/100
CXX - 20/100
CXXI - 54/100
CXXII - 13/100
CXXIII - 26/100
CXXIV - 4/100
CXXV - 53/100

You take this spread for anyone and ignore the earlier ones and this Elim isn't spicy it's an upper midcard guy who had a couple good runs.