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hombad46 07/08/23 12:45:39 PM #102: |
RySenkari posted... Countless death threats and violent letters sent to the show's creators and staff what the fuck --- It's tempting to linger in this moment, while every possibility still exists. But unless collapsed by an observer, they will never be more than possibilities. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RySenkari 07/08/23 1:07:12 PM #103: |
#12: Soupy Sales Tells Kids To Steal Money From Their Parents https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/2/AAAG8cAAEo9-.jpg Beating Twitch streamers to the punch by half a century. Soupy Sales was a legendary comedian whose signature shtick was taking a pie to the face. He parlayed his talents into a long career in comedy, both the general audience kind (where he sometimes did late night shows) and the kids' kind (his career lasted so long that he was briefly considered to host Nickelodeon's Double Dare in 1986). For the most part, he enjoyed great fame and affection, and when he died in 2009, he was fondly remembered for entertaining millions of people. However, there was one particular incident that could've cost him everything while he was at the absolute height of his career: back on New Year's Day 1965, on an episode of his long-running kids' show Lunch with Soupy Sales, he was a bit annoyed about having to work the holiday, so toward the end of the program, he said this: "Hey kids, last night was New Year's Eve, and your mother and dad were out having a great time. They are probably still sleeping and what I want you to do is tiptoe in their bedroom and go in your mom's pocketbook and your dad's pants, which are probably on the floor. You'll see a lot of green pieces of paper with pictures of guys in beards. Put them in an envelope and send them to me at Soupy Sales, Channel 5, New York, New York. And you know what I'm going to send you? A post card from Puerto Rico!" Yep, he actually asked millions of impressionable young viewers to steal money from their parents and send it to him. And while millions of those kids didn't do it, either because they took it as a joke or because they were obviously scared of getting in trouble, thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, actually mailed him money. While some of the money was Monopoly money, a decent amount of it was real, and soon Soupy was under investigation, with the threat of CONGRESS getting involved. He ended up getting what amounted to a relative slap on the wrist, a two week suspension, and he went on to have a mostly incident-free rest of his career, after his bosses concluded that he was indeed just joking. It was an early indication of the power of television, and that one should be very careful about what they joke about in front of millions of people... a lesson that sometimes even the funniest among us have to learn the hard way. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 07/08/23 1:13:58 PM #104: |
Haha wow that one is crazy --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 07/08/23 1:14:01 PM #105: |
Can someone explain how spending millions of dollars to create a show and then not publicly releasing it saves money? Seems like you're just throwing away what you spent. I don't understand the tax thing. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysteriousStan 07/08/23 1:14:57 PM #106: |
RySenkari posted... dark nursery rhymes about violently killing BarneyBarney was one of the big kids shows I watched a a kid so gotta disagree on it being dumb personally! But I do remember these going around at school. Didn't realize it extended way beyond that... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 07/08/23 1:23:36 PM #107: |
I hate you, you hate me, let's get together to kill Barney With a baseball bat and a 2-by-4, no more purple dinosaur --- What can the harvest hope for if not for the care of the Reaper Man? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TeamRocketElite 07/08/23 1:24:42 PM #108: |
-hotdogturtle-- posted... Can someone explain how spending millions of dollars to create a show and then not publicly releasing it saves money? Seems like you're just throwing away what you spent. I don't understand the tax thing. I think the idea is the tax benefit from writing off the work is expected to be larger than the amount of money brought in by releasing the work. Overall, the work still loses money but maybe not as much money as if it got released. --- My bracket looked like random picks compared to his. Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD 2020 Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 07/08/23 1:27:49 PM #109: |
NFUN posted... I hate you, you hate me, let's get together to kill BarneyInteresting, it was always "a body on the floor" instead of "a 2-by-4" for me as a kid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 07/08/23 1:30:41 PM #110: |
TeamRocketElite posted... I think the idea is the tax benefit from writing off the work is expected to be larger than the amount of money brought in by releasing the work. Overall, the work still loses money but maybe not as much money as if it got released. It's also worth pointing out that releasing a big-budget anything also comes with a lot of expenses like advertising, and taking theaters away from films you either have out there or will release soon that could be a more efficient use of money for movies. Going 'well, we put this much into it, we have to finish it' is sunk cost theory in action. --- Not a stinky alien. :( Nintendo Switch Code: SW-5719-6555-8388 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 07/08/23 1:51:17 PM #111: |
Barney was such a constant presence of my early childhood that it's wild to me that it was a flash in the pan relatively. Like, I just ASSUMED Barney was still a thing, but most young kids have probably never heard of him. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zyxyz0 07/08/23 1:56:22 PM #112: |
Barney was before my time, but stuck in ppl's minds enough for the hate-song to still be going around when I was a kid. The version I learned was: I love you, you love me Barney stole my DVD So I went to the store and bought a .44 No more purple dinosaur --- Archive of my and others' playthrough/ranking topics, fanfiction recs, etc: http://zyxyzarchive.42web.io/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 07/08/23 1:57:18 PM #113: |
WarThaNemesis2 posted... It's also worth pointing out that releasing a big-budget anything also comes with a lot of expenses like advertising, and taking theaters away from films you either have out there or will release soon that could be a more efficient use of money for movies. Its also residuals. You agree to pay the writers and actors a cut every time its aired or for however long its available. if you never release it then you pay nothing --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RySenkari 07/08/23 1:58:00 PM #114: |
#11: The Children's Television Act And The Slow Death Of Saturday Morninghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/5/AAAG8cAAEo-p.jpg Pictured: The famous educational television program, Hannah Montana. In October 1990, the Children's Television Act was signed into law. Advocacy groups had been campaigning for such a law for years, claiming that regulations were needed to stem the rising tide of violent content and commercialization on children's television. In 1996, an even stronger regulatory bill was signed into law, requiring that stations air three hours of "educational" content per week, and that such content be labeled with an "E/I" station bug designating it as such. These laws, of course, didn't apply to cable television networks such as Nickelodeon, and were passed into law right as these channels were growing massively in popularity with kids. Contrary to popular belief, the laws didn't kill Saturday morning kids' shows immediately. While NBC soon jettisoned its Saturday morning cartoon block in favor of live-action shows such as Saved By The Bell and California Dreams, ABC and CBS kept right on with their cartoons, as did FOX Kids, which saw its greatest success in the 1990s. Kids WB also aired plenty of cartoons during this time. Indeed, the Children's Television Act only started a bit of a regulatory war between the government and the networks, primarily over what counted as "educational". For years, networks just slapped the "E/I" logo on anything they wanted to. Even before the logo was mandated, you'd see tons of cartoons slap on 30 second "lesson of the day" segments at the end of their shows, where the characters would talk about some real world issues like studying or smoking. Many of these "lesson of the day" segments were silly and became meme material, but even after they faded out, networks would often stick random social or educational content in shows just so they could apply the label. In the case of shows like the pictured Hannah Montana, for example, they just didn't care. Even as networks pushed back against government regulation, more and more of them began cutting Saturday morning programming entirely, until only syndicated blocks like Qubo and 4KidsTV remained, and then those went as well by the early 2010s, leaving only live-action general audience blocks such as "One Magnificent Morning" and "The CBS Dream Team". These blocks air genuinely educational content, most of it fairly generic and inoffensive, disproportionately featuring animals for some reason... and many kids just tune in to Nickelodeon. The Children's Television Act and subsequent regulations ultimately succeeded in their goal of "purifying" the network Saturday morning airwaves of commercialized content, but also failed in their goal to make television more educational, because, let's face it, after a tough week of school, the last thing kids want to be doing on Saturday morning is more learning. Kids just flocked to cable networks or played video games instead, and with the "Kid Vid" laws finally on the verge of being repealed, will we get our Saturday mornings back? No, because most networks plan to fill those slots with news or sports. The laws mostly just led to a quarter century of back and forth rules lawyering between networks and the government, ultimately resulting in cartoons just moving from networks to cable, billions of dollars wasted on one of the most pointless political battles in modern American history. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Keeby 07/08/23 1:58:49 PM #115: |
Theyre actually making a new CGI series featuring Barney, set to release next year. I personally think it looks horrifying. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/6/AAdrkiAAEo-q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 07/08/23 2:00:16 PM #116: |
Im actually super bummed Saturday morning cartoons dont exist any more. I felt like I blinked and they were gone forever --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 07/08/23 2:06:15 PM #117: |
_Keeby posted... Theyre actually making a new CGI series featuring Barney, set to release next year. I personally think it looks horrifying. Uncanny Valley Barney cant hurt me, Uncanny Valley Barney isnt real --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skulltrumpets 07/08/23 2:06:32 PM #118: |
So Barney, we meet again. There had to have been a time where I liked the guy because I owned a plush of him growing up. But that like definitely turned to hate over the years. I luckily didn't take it too far, just the usual "I hate you, you hate me" rhymes (like Paratroopa, mine was the "body on the floor" variant) and occasional eye rolling. Also holy fuck that Soupy Sales story is fucking hilarious. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MysteriousStan 07/08/23 2:11:48 PM #119: |
masterplum posted... Im actually super bummed Saturday morning cartoons dont exist any more. I felt like I blinked and they were gone foreverSame. Some of my favorite times were watching Yu-Gi-Oh and Jackie Chan Adventures and other shows on Saturdays. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 07/08/23 2:13:54 PM #120: |
Barney was always the token scapegoat for "that children's show that kids grew out of and wanted to prove how mature they were by bashing it at every opportunity". Hence that song that we all heard. But looking back on it, there's no logical reason why. It was just one of many nearly identical shows like that, even including ones with giant mascot costumes. Barney just became the face of it for some reason. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 07/08/23 2:16:28 PM #121: |
It's because he was purple and "purple is a gay color". There's no joke there, that's just where kids were at at that time. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrinceKaro 07/08/23 2:16:53 PM #122: |
Clutch Cargo sounds like the western animation equivalent of Chargeman Ken --- https://i.imgtc.com/a6iBg1Y.jpg Congrats to azuarc on being really good at predicting stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 07/08/23 2:19:11 PM #123: |
I hated Barney even in kindergarten and dreaded whenever we were forced to watch it. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skulltrumpets 07/08/23 2:21:47 PM #124: |
UshiromiyaEva posted... It's because he was purple and "purple is a gay color".my character arc went from hating Barney to being gay and loving purple! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Young_Link 07/08/23 2:23:49 PM #125: |
skulltrumpets posted... my character arc went from hating Barney to being gay and loving purple! Top 10 Anime Redemptions --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Young_Link 07/08/23 2:26:52 PM #126: |
Also yeah I remember briefly hating on Barney because I guess it was the "cool" thing to do. Didn't know there were people sending death threats, that's fucked up. W.I.T.C.H was mentioned earlier, it will never not break my heart that such a great show got canceled. Saturday morning cartoons were probably the last time I willingly got up early in the morning. Once those were gone, fuck it night owl for life. --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 07/08/23 3:04:44 PM #127: |
masterplum posted... Im actually super bummed Saturday morning cartoons dont exist any more. I felt like I blinked and they were gone forever MysteriousStan posted... Same. Some of my favorite times were watching Yu-Gi-Oh and Jackie Chan Adventures and other shows on Saturdays.Me three. I have those memories too - those two shows and Pokemon. Kid me LOVED spending Saturday morning watching cartoons, like kids should. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crescent-Moon 07/08/23 3:07:36 PM #128: |
I remember the jingles about killing Barney from when I was younger It was... Weird --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crescent-Moon 07/08/23 3:13:44 PM #129: |
RySenkari posted... disproportionately featuring animals for some reason...Because they thought the animals would potentially make people more willing to watch because cute animals. Saturday morning pretty well turned into the ultimate deadzone of television, something they were forced to make that nobody watched. I would have the TV off before I'd bothering listening to whatever those shows would drone on about. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 07/08/23 3:15:50 PM #130: |
I'm only on Page 3 of the first topic, but has Disney shutting down Blue Sky studios and essentially banishing Nimona to the Shadow Realm for two years been mentioned yet? Because I just watched it and I am ready to throw rocks at Robert Iger. Seriously! --- :> I'll never stop smilin' she/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RySenkari 07/08/23 3:19:58 PM #131: |
Crescent-Moon posted... Because they thought the animals would potentially make people more willing to watch because cute animals. Saturday morning pretty well turned into the ultimate deadzone of television, something they were forced to make that nobody watched. I would have the TV off before I'd bothering listening to whatever those shows would drone on about. Sometimes I like having Mo Rocca and Miranda Cosgrove's shows on as background noise. They both have fun, pleasant voices. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crescent-Moon 07/08/23 3:20:56 PM #132: |
I have no idea who either of those people are. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Underleveled 07/08/23 3:35:01 PM #133: |
RySenkari posted... toward the end of the program, he said this: "Hey kids, last night was New Year's Eve, and your mother and dad were out having a great time. They are probably still sleeping and what I want you to do is tiptoe in their bedroom and go in your mom's pocketbook and your dad's pants, which are probably on the floor. You'll see a lot of green pieces of paper with pictures of guys in beards. Put them in an envelope and send them to me at Soupy Sales, Channel 5, New York, New York. And you know what I'm going to send you? A post card from Puerto Rico!"I know of Soupy Sales but didn't know of this incident... is it bad that I laughed my ass off while reading it? --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village ... Copied to Clipboard!
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most_games_r_ok 07/08/23 3:39:39 PM #134: |
I thought the Barney hate was a rite of passage that everyone went through from watching and even enjoying it sometimes as a kid to tolerating it then slowly hating it. The death threats and stuff is dumb though. Also, the Soupy Sales thing is hilarious and I cannot believe that one actually happened. --- "I do because I can." http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Micer101.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 07/08/23 3:59:43 PM #135: |
RySenkari posted... #17: Kid Nation Zampano who? RySenkari posted... #13: The Anti-Barney Crusade But...but...it's time for Teletubbies! --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 07/08/23 4:35:44 PM #136: |
Underleveled posted... I know of Soupy Sales but didn't know of this incident... is it bad that I laughed my ass off while reading it? Most of them actually dont have beards! Must have gotten lots of $5s and $50s --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hylianknight3 07/08/23 5:24:48 PM #137: |
There was a time in my childhood when I really liked Barney and the Backyard Gang, and man did I get ruthlessly bullied for sharing that information. --- The azuarc of the contest universe is long, but it bends toward Guruship. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 07/08/23 6:49:32 PM #138: |
Paratroopa1 posted... Interesting, it was always "a body on the floor" instead of "a 2-by-4" for me as a kidAnd I've always heard "I hate you, you hate me, let's hang Barney from a tree" at the start. And then the 2-by-4 ending. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 07/08/23 6:56:11 PM #139: |
GenesisSaga posted... I'm only on Page 3 of the first topic, but has Disney shutting down Blue Sky studios and essentially banishing Nimona to the Shadow Realm for two years been mentioned yet? Because I just watched it and I am ready to throw rocks at Robert Iger. Seriously!Is it good? I wasn't interested from the description but if it's genuinely good I'll watch it. Nvm, just saw Gen's other topic --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 07/08/23 6:58:33 PM #140: |
Maniac64 posted...
It suffers from pacing issues a tad, but the heart is there and it shows. It is most definitely genuinely good, dare I say great? Second only to Across the Spider-Verse as far as 2023 animated family movies I've seen so far. --- :> I'll never stop smilin' she/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 07/08/23 7:27:33 PM #141: |
Radical how the same phenomenon can occur across the nation in different variants. I hate you, you hate me We hate each other can't you see With a great big punch and a kick from me to you Won't you say you hate me too (less creativity with that one but it's the one I knew!) --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 07/08/23 7:31:12 PM #142: |
Mine was the same as NFUN's but with "stupid" instead of "purple" --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 07/08/23 7:37:13 PM #143: |
RySenkari posted... #88: Pinky, Elmyra, & the Brain So, I met Maurice LaMarche today. Didn't talk long at all, but on top of the compliments to his work I also mentioned I had someone mentioned Pink, Elmyra, and the Brain recently. His eyes widened and he playfully asked me what I thought of Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain. I told him I don't remember much of it beyond its existence -- true -- but I loved both Pinky and the Brain and Tiny Toons Adventure -- also true -- but also I had to bring it up because of this topic -- Somebody beside him mentioned they rented Pinky, Elmyra, and the Brain as a kid and realized as a kid she made a mistake. They both laughed and we carried on with our days. There's my contribution for supporting your good work. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WazzupGenius00 07/08/23 7:44:21 PM #144: |
I cant remember one line of my schools Barney hate song, but the rest was I hate you, you hate me lets get together and kill Barney with a ____________ and a bullet to the head Lets all say that Barneys dead --- http://i.imgur.com/k0v0z3q.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xeybozn 07/08/23 7:53:57 PM #145: |
Maniac64 posted... And I've always heard "I hate you, you hate me, let's hang Barney from a tree" at the start. This is the start I remember, but the next part was "Shoot him with a .44, no more purple dinosaur." It's crazy how many different versions there are of that song. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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v_charon 07/08/23 7:59:00 PM #146: |
WazzupGenius00 posted... I cant remember one line of my schools Barney hate song, but the rest was The one I remember is almost this way, but with "a shot to the head" and "aren't you glad that Barney's dead". I feel a bit of shame looking back on it (but I was definitely under 10 at the time I was singing this). My stepsister was a huge Barney lover and 2 years younger than me, and she'd scream bloody murder at the sound of hearing the song. --- :> Truly smilin' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 07/08/23 8:37:41 PM #147: |
I feel something familiar with every Barney variation here. I feel less shame about all the variations and more shame about how widespread this all got. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 07/08/23 8:47:02 PM #148: |
Lets not forget this gem: https://youtu.be/A7xTi3yBL4s A bizarre non sequitur shoved in completely at random, after Barney hate was already going out of fashion. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JonThePenguin 07/08/23 8:54:53 PM #149: |
Our variation where I grew up was: I hate you, you hate me Lets tie Barney to a tree Put a shotgun right up to his head Now that purple freak is dead --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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guffguy89 07/08/23 10:45:38 PM #150: |
I never watched Kid Nation but it reminded me of a another children's reality show that aired during the summers in the late 90s on the Disney channel called Bug Juice. The show followed several campers as they attended summer camp, experiencing all the usual things you encounter when going to Summer camp. I really liked the show back then and still can recall the opening theme song, though it honestly sounds like a really boring premise to me today. And like with Kid Nation, I'm sure many of the kids probably wish they were never on the show. I remember one episode, one of the campers ended up calling home for their mom to pick them up. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 07/08/23 11:16:20 PM #151: |
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kids-love-shows-blippi-caillou-130543315.html Article about parents hating select kids shows, including Caillou. The boomers in the comments section are dropping remarks like this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/7/3/AAUC3iAAEpEF.png (The first time I heard of Clutch Cargo was earlier in the thread.) --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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