Current Events > That kid who jumped off the cruise ship def got eaten by sharks

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darkace77450 posted...

That's because the vast majority of people swimming in the ocean are doing so during the daytime. I can't believe you guys have squeezed 200+ posts out of a dark, blurry picture of a ship's wake.

Because when you actually bother to watch the videos, you can very clearly make out a shark at multiple points. What I cant believe is that so many people make comments without watching the videos, slowing them down, etc.

Imit8m3 posted...

Imagine being the kid who told him to jump overboard... Like, bro is responsible for his friends death! Not legally, he did the dumb thing without being forced. But if he hadn't said it, his friend would still be alive.
He's going to need therapy.

I mean, likely there are legal implications to convincing someone to do something dangerous

Payzmaykr posted...

Dude, theres stories about sharks eating people all the time. When something gets thrown overboard, they zip in and grab a bite before the swarm gets it all.

In addition to that, the vast majority of the shark attack stories that youre referencing occur in the daytime. A shark is a completely different creature at night. Thats documented extensively by now.

Just because they are stories dont mean theyre true. Shark have eaten people before, but thats really rare. Even attacks are pretty rare, altogether And they dont actually like the taste of human that much So, he could have been attacked But chances are he drowned

Sharks are different at night. But that still doesnt mean he was eaten. The chances are still more in favor of him drowning

Mormaurd posted...

If anything, all the thrashing around got the sharks attention and it may have taken an inquisitive bite before leaving him alone. Thats the usual for sharks.

Yep! Thats what I figured, as well

Payzmaykr posted...

Because when you actually bother to watch the videos, you can very clearly make out a shark at multiple points. What I cant believe is that so many people make comments without watching the videos, slowing them down, etc.

You can see something, but not clearly at all Its dark, and taken by a phone camera And many posters may be in mobile, and cant slow it down

Its weird how none of the news outlets are providing commentary about the possibility of it indeed being sharks in the video. Not even eyewitness accounts. Are they just keeping quiet out of respect for the family?

Iamdepressed posted...

NO WAY. It was during night time in one of the most saturated shark spots in the world. There's apparently 40 different species of sharks that swim around there and they're more inclined to swarm around large cruise ships as well. I think the person who dared the child to jump over should face criminal charges. Unintentional or not, the person who offered the dare created a situation where their negligence of preventing a foreseeable situation ultimately killed the child. Had they not asked the child to jump of the ship, he wouldn't have died. I hope someone fesses up and takes accountability.

The person who provided alcohol to a minor is also directly responsible for their death (or should be)

TooSoon posted...

Its weird how none of the news outlets are providing commentary about the possibility of it indeed being sharks in the video. Not even eyewitness accounts. Are they just keeping quiet out of respect for the family?

You ever notice how EVERY shark attack is "rare". Well if shark attacks were not labelled as such you would feel an increased chance of being a victim. Then you wouldnt want to go on a cruise, go to the touristy beaches, spend money at resorts.

TooSoon posted...

Its weird how none of the news outlets are providing commentary about the possibility of it indeed being sharks in the video. Not even eyewitness accounts. Are they just keeping quiet out of respect for the family?

Perhaps they consulted actual experts who said it's not a shark rather than relying on internet sleuths with a pause and enhance button.

pretzelcoatl posted...

The person who provided alcohol to a minor is also directly responsible for their death (or should be)

This was seemingly in the Bahamas, where the drinking age is 18.

Payzmaykr posted...

Because when you actually bother to watch the videos, you can very clearly make out a shark at multiple points. What I cant believe is that so many people make comments without watching the videos, slowing them down, etc.

you absolutely cannot very clearly make out a shark at multiple points.

if that was the case this wouldnt even be a debate.

1. it was the ships wake
2. it was a crest of a wave
3. distant third, it was some sort of sea animal

Sharks can still easily kill you even if they spit you out. I think I read that they don't have good eyesight. They tend to taste something to identify it. They might take a bite out of you, say gross and then swim away. But you might still die from the damage they did to you

Zikten posted...

Sharks can still easily kill you even if they spit you out. I think I read that they don't have good eyesight. They tend to taste something to identify it. They might take a bite out of you, say gross and then swim away. But you might still die from the damage they did to you

Yeah. I mentioned he could have been attacked. But I was saying he most likely wasnt eaten He could have died from an attack I just think his chances of drowning were higher

Thud posted...

Yes and no. Those were basically lazy ass garbage sharks that have learned things that come from a boat are food. Typically they're blue, mako or the odd tiger (and imo that was a smaller tiger or bull shark based on head shape) and those guys aren't picky with their meals.

If you want to read something truly terrifying, read survivor accounts from the USS Arizona. Battleship sank in WWIl, over 1000 men died. The survivors basically grabbed onto what they could or formed a human "ball" to stay warm and every so often they'd see a man just get pulled under, could feel the sharks bumping into them etc. They were adrift for at least overnight and dozens of men were taken by sharks.

I think you mean the USS Indianapolis.

chrono625 posted...

you absolutely cannot very clearly make out a shark at multiple points.

if that was the case this wouldnt even be a debate.

1. it was the ships wake
2. it was a crest of a wave
3. distant third, it was some sort of sea animal

I know that some people are more experienced at seeing these things, but its clearly there if you know how to analyze photographs. It clearly shows up two times and all you need to do is slow down the video.

Definitely not a wave because it does a 180 and comes right for him. It also has a fin and you can see the head come up and get him. Oh, and it also suspiciously moved like a giant fish. Ive never seen a wave with fins and a head before, but I guess youre the internet expert.

Y'all are acting like Johnny Cochran trying to defend the existence of sharks in the water xD

I say lets ride this boat all the way to 501!

Sharks don't eat people? What about the USS Indianapolis?

Payzmaykr posted...

I know that some people are more experienced at seeing these things, but its clearly there if you know how to analyze photographs. It clearly shows up two times and all you need to do is slow down the video.

Definitely not a wave because it does a 180 and comes right for him. It also has a fin and you can see the head come up and get him. Oh, and it also suspiciously moved like a giant fish. Ive never seen a wave with fins and a head before, but I guess youre the internet expert.

Dude, nothing is "clearly" there in that poorly lit, grainy footage.

I don't doubt that it could be a shark but I also find it hard to believe that if this kid saw a shark he wouldn't vocalize it in some way instead of just calmly swimming in the opposite direction.
Also, the still frames can be deceiving. Take for example the still where it looks like a sharks head is grabbing his leg- in the moving footage it looks to me like his foot came out of the water while kicking and made a splash thereby creating the illusion of a sharks head in the still frame.

the aggressive sharks in that area are the oceanic whitetip, bull, great hammerhead, silky, and tiger sharks

candyapplered posted...

Dude, nothing is "clearly" there in that poorly lit, grainy footage.

I don't doubt that it could be a shark but I also find it hard to believe that if this kid saw a shark he wouldn't vocalize it in some way instead of just calmly swimming in the opposite direction.
Also, the still frames can be deceiving. Take for example the still where it looks like a sharks head is grabbing his leg- in the moving footage it looks to me like his foot came out of the water while kicking and made a splash thereby creating the illusion of a sharks head in the still frame.

i think youre overestimating phone audio and its ability to pick up his sound over everything around the one filming.

Dude could have been screaming bloody murder and we wouldnt hear shit in that video.

Zeeak4444 posted...

i think youre overestimating phone audio and its ability to pick up his sound over everything around the one filming.

Dude could have been screaming bloody murder and we wouldnt hear shit in that video.

That said, TC (or someone, at least) mentioned being able to hear the guy screaming Though, Im not sure how TC knows for sure thats who was screaming

Zeeak4444 posted...

i think youre overestimating phone audio and its ability to pick up his sound over everything around the one filming.

Dude could have been screaming bloody murder and we wouldnt hear shit in that video.

It's possible but I don't see his mouth moving or hear any sound coming from him in the part where people say he saw a shark and turned away from the flotation device.

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

I wonder how cold that water was.

I would say that its probably pretty warm due to the location. Tiger sharks love warm water

Thud posted...

Yes and no. Those were basically lazy ass garbage sharks that have learned things that come from a boat are food. Typically they're blue, mako or the odd tiger (and imo that was a smaller tiger or bull shark based on head shape) and those guys aren't picky with their meals.

If you want to read something truly terrifying, read survivor accounts from the USS Arizona. Battleship sank in WWIl, over 1000 men died. The survivors basically grabbed onto what they could or formed a human "ball" to stay warm and every so often they'd see a man just get pulled under, could feel the sharks bumping into them etc. They were adrift for at least overnight and dozens of men were taken by sharks.

USS Indianapolis but yeah, a lot of the sailors who survived the initial sinking got eaten by sharks. There was just over a thousand sailors on that ship, 300 died in the initial sinking and only 316 were rescued. The rest died from sharks, dehydration, and salt water poisoning.

Y'know...kinda hard for me to feel bad

I'm wondering what he expected to happen. That there would be a ladder ready and he could just climb back up?

fan357 posted...

Lead by example :)

I'm not the one that has to seek some kinda validation by saying they don't give a shit that some dude died. If I'm truly indifferent about something I'm not gonna waste keystrokes discussing it, am I?

xLegendaryElite posted...

Y'know...kinda hard for me to feel bad

And another one.

You guys act like an internet forum is like a face to face conversation where you're forced to give your shitty opinions.

fan357 posted...

Imagine being stupid enough to jump off a moving ship into the ocean AT NIGHT. Kid would have never survived college.

trust me... I've heard about idiots who can't use common sense. We had a really the worst blizzard my province has had in like 30 years a couple years ago, and a guy in his late teens/early 20s decided to go to his friends house via the forest behind his house. 2 days later they found his body keeled over.

You kind of see something swim next to him to his left in the first few seconds. He's not looking at it but you see something else a few seconds later further up the boat in the direction the object or wave was moving. It kind of whips around towards him but honestly looks like a wave to me. The still with the shark head is just his feet its a lot clearer in the video. Why he starts swimming away from the float and what exactly sucks him under thats anyones guess. Kind of seems like a shark but I watched it 100ish times and never clearly saw one.

Odd theres no other footage with how film crazy kids are.

NO2_Fiend posted...

You kind of see something swim next to him to his left in the first few seconds. He's not looking at it but you see something else a few seconds later further up the boat in the direction the object or wave was moving. It kind of whips around towards him but honestly looks like a wave to me. The still with the shark head is just his feet its a lot clearer in the video. Why he starts swimming away from the float and what exactly sucks him under thats anyones guess. Kind of seems like a shark but I watched it 100ish times and never clearly saw one.

Odd theres no other footage with how film crazy kids are.

No, you can see the head come up from beneath and then move down. The head came into frame much further than his foot (which was visible).

I'm pretty sure it was a shark that pulled him under and gave a bite, injured him enough and drown afterwards when the shark decided he wasn't tasty. Otherwise he had a lifesaver nearby he could have swam to. He wasn't a weak swimmer, they said he was an athlete and obviously he was confident enough to have jumped in.

yemmy posted...

I'm not the one that has to seek some kinda validation by saying they don't give a shit that some dude died. If I'm truly indifferent about something I'm not gonna waste keystrokes discussing it, am I?

xLegendaryElite posted...

And another one.

You guys act like an internet forum is like a face to face conversation where you're forced to give your shitty opinions.

Yeah the internet is a pretty trash place...

Definitely sharks. The coastguard literally stated those waters were shark infested.

I say he was eaten. He clearly was freaked out by something, since he is initially swimming towards the ship, then immediately tries to swim away from it and given the circumstances and how quickly the crew were alerted, it is highly likely he would've been recovered if he just floated in place. Although, who knows with alchol and drugs. You don't always do the most rational things, but you would think you would at least be hailing the ship at the very least, not swimming away from it, that is, unless you are being attacked by something

darkace77450 posted...

That's because the vast majority of people swimming in the ocean are doing so during the daytime. I can't believe you guys have squeezed 200+ posts out of a dark, blurry picture of a ship's wake.

Exactly my point: most people have the sense to not swim in the ocean at night because sharks behave much more aggressively and they hunt.

Payzmaykr posted...

No, you can see the head come up from beneath and then move down. The head came into frame much further than his foot (which was visible).

Pretty sure thats a white frothy splash of water because it comes up with his feet like a splash would and looks real thin. I'll give you that it is possible he kicked its head back down the literal second it popped up an the grainy look of the image could possibly effect how solid the wave/head looks. He definitely gets pulled under by something a few seconds later. I grabbed a screen just at the last miillisecond you see him, still very clearly in frame but almost completely blacked out as he's clearly sinking.

Dude could swim well enough to not just sink annnnd pretty sure that boat was a sailboat so no giant propeller underneath and not much else would drag a man down. Like I said most likely a shark I just don't see the bugger.... unless it was the wave looking thing I mentioned.

yemmy posted...

I'm not the one that has to seek some kinda validation by saying they don't give a shit that some dude died. If I'm truly indifferent about something I'm not gonna waste keystrokes discussing it, am I?

xLegendaryElite posted...

And another one.

You guys act like an internet forum is like a face to face conversation where you're forced to give your shitty opinions.

I regularly see people lose their lives due to legitimate circumstances beyond their control. I've had to deal with gunshot victims being in the wrong place at the wrong time, SIDS, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, various traumas, a literal pandemic. Forgive me for not having sympathy for stupidity.

To be fair you shouldn't judge someone without hearing their side of the story. I haven't seen any video of him falling in and for all we know someone could have pushed him in and said he jumped. Everything we know is testimony of a bunch of party goers who were likely pretty drunk.

NO2_Fiend posted...

To be fair you shouldn't judge someone without hearing their side of the story. I haven't seen any video of him falling in and for all we know someone could have pushed him in and said he jumped. Everything we know is testimony of a bunch of party goers who were likely pretty drunk.

He's naked, if not at least wearing his underwear. He so was not pushed. He took his clothes off assuming he'd have a quick dip in the water, and he paid for it.

xLegendaryElite posted...

I regularly see people lose their lives due to legitimate circumstances beyond their control. I've had to deal with gunshot victims being in the wrong place at the wrong time, SIDS, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, various traumas, a literal pandemic. Forgive me for not having sympathy for stupidity.

Thanks for completely missing my point about no one forcing you to validate your opinion on the matter.

BB_mofo posted...

A cruise ship is a good place to murder someone. The ocean is huge, there's no law enforcement, and it would take hours for anyone to realize the victim is no longer on the ship. Hell, the cruise ship might even help coverup the crime to avoid any bad publicity.

Still, this whole thing reminds me of a few months back with the passenger who was rescued after accidentally falling off a cruise ship. The ship was able to bust a U-turn at speed and pick them up using a disembarkation boat. Rescue crews called it a miracle.

Theres no law enforcement, but the cruise ship captain and crew are the law as determined by maritime law and in the US, by the Supreme Court. But typically, the law that governs a ship in international waters is based on where the ship owner is headquartered. And modern cruise ships are full of cameras. Youre less likely to get caught committing a murder on land than on a ship.

NO2_Fiend posted...

Pretty sure thats a white frothy splash of water because it comes up with his feet like a splash would and looks real thin. I'll give you that it is possible he kicked its head back down the literal second it popped up an the grainy look of the image could possibly effect how solid the wave/head looks. He definitely gets pulled under by something a few seconds later. I grabbed a screen just at the last miillisecond you see him, still very clearly in frame but almost completely blacked out as he's clearly sinking.

Dude could swim well enough to not just sink annnnd pretty sure that boat was a sailboat so no giant propeller underneath and not much else would drag a man down. Like I said most likely a shark I just don't see the bugger.... unless it was the wave looking thing I mentioned.

Yeah, I rewatched the video and I saw the same scene. Dude is in frame, clear as day, then immediately vanishes while still in frame. Not a slow fade out, just ,boom gone, like he got dragged down or something. Dude almost certainly was attacked. I would bet many a Quatloo on that, given his general behavior & the video segment you referred to. Nice catch

A_Good_Boy posted...

He's naked

He definitely looks like hes wearing shorts, unless Im seeing a different video

If one shark took a curious bite out of you, you might survive.

If many sharks took a curious bite out of you... welp.

Sharks rarely eat people. If a shark did attack the lad, then I doubt he was actually eaten. Whats far more likely is a shark biting him because it thought he was food or it was curious about him. Sharks bite on things whenever theyre curious like how humans use their fingers to poke something. Problem is shark bites are so strong that one bite can be fatal to people.

The lad probably either drowned or died from a shark bite. Assuming he was eaten by sharks is kind of ridiculous since sharks dont even like how humans taste. Most animals dont.

R.I.P. to him either way.

Apocalyptic posted...

sharks dont even like how humans taste. Most animals dont.

Do we know why that is?

Zikten posted...

Do we know why that is?

One of the reasons I've read is because of our meat:bone ratio makes eating humans not worth it.

St0rmFury posted...

One of the reasons I've read is because of our meat:bone ratio makes eating humans not worth it.

This And we fight back And if they were never around a human that fights back, it becomes high risk with low rewards (that they know of)

I dont think he was eaten by sharks that could have happened but he probably drowned. Swimming in the darkfor your lifewhile drunk it would be overwhelming

100% a shark. It whips around real damn quick. God damn. You seem him looking at it ~6 seconds in -- he's not looking at the ship or buoy at all. If you slow it to 0.25x you can see the shark swims behind him, then to his up-left out of frame, whips back around into frame, he looks right at it (shark out of frame again), but a few moments later you can see the buoy and where it is he was absolutely not looking at or around for the buoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8RZ3JLOSw

again, nobody in the video starts yelling 'shark!' so if it's so obvious to see, it's a real wonder how nobody there sees it but internet sleuths manage to have '100% certainty' in spite of all the blurriness and compression.

people are gullible.

Fluttershy posted...

again, nobody in the video starts yelling 'shark!' so if it's so obvious to see, it's a real wonder how nobody there sees it but internet sleuths manage to have '100% certainty' in spite of all the blurriness and compression.

people are gullible.

Okay so what is it already in the water behind him that swims out of frame to the left, reappears in the upper left, whips around to face him in a conscious manner before going out of frame again, and what is he looking directly at instead of the buoy, crowd, or boat, and why is he frantically swimming in the opposite direction of it? A bunch of drunk teens probably didn't notice the exact same thing that you didn't notice because it happened so quick. It swims out of frame within the first second. Slow it to 0.25x and it becomes very clear it's a living, moving object.