Current Events > That kid who jumped off the cruise ship def got eaten by sharks

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BurmesePenguin posted...

Probably because people don't usually just appear in open water.

No. Even when people are in the water, they dont usually eat them They may bite to see what it is, but they let it go when they find out And according to Google, You have an 89.4% chance of surviving a shark attack. That said, he also had other problems like being overboard a ship in the middle of the ocean at night So, he probably wouldnt make it solely due to that A shark attack might not kill him, but would definitely make things worse all around

LinkPizza posted...

I cant swim, so I dont go into water But all Im saying is sharks rarely eat people Just letting you know is all

Polar bears don't eat people either but you still wouldn't go and hug one. Even if this kid had pulled up Wikipedia on his phone moments before jumping in the water to determine his likelihood of surviving a swim in shark infested waters it would still be an incredibly idiotic thing to do.

LoZguy709 posted...

Well congrats on being ahead of the curve there. I acknowledged it was a stupid decision. Also impulsive, meaning he may not have been thinking through things practically in those few seconds he responded to his friend's dare.

The kids were from Baton Rouge, which is the same city Im from. Its a very river/boat centric city. The water there has tons of alligators and bull sharks, so most people there know this stuff. Its not possible to grow up in Baton Rouge and not know that theres dangerous stuff in the water that hunts at night and hangs out around boats, docks, and other places like marina restaurants where it might get food waste thrown in.

Again, its tragic, but this should be common sense for anyone, much less someone from BR.

Also, statistics are highly manipulated when it comes to shark attack fatalities. So many nations and states thrive on tourism and they would never release the real numbers. Many go unreported because nobody knows or it happens somewhere with little outside contact.

LinkPizza posted...

No. Even when people are in the water, they dont usually eat them They may bite to see what it is, but they let it go when they find out And according to Google, You have an 89.4% chance of surviving a shark attack. That said, he also had other problems like being overboard a ship in the middle of the ocean at night So, he probably wouldnt make it solely due to that A shark attack might not kill him, but would definitely make things worse all around

Admittedly I don't know, but I would assume this is again not related to open water shark attacks. 90% of shark attacks are non-deadly because they mostly occur in shallow waters where the victim can retreat and the shark has limited movement.

LoZguy709 posted...

Again, many people not considering how quickly this stuff can happen among dumb adolescents. I'll admit I haven't watched the video, but if this happens in a matter of minutes even, guys can lose the best of their logic for that amount of time. Maybe not me, but some dudes I may have called friends in the past. You can call it Darwinism all you want, and I won't tell you you're wrong. It's just kind of telling how quickly people are to find amusement out of this kid/guy/dude's terrible, unfortunate, fatal experience.

Extremely CE to be defending a dude who jumped off a cross ship but victimizing someone who got drugged by a one night stand lol

TheGoldenEel posted...

Extremely CE to be defending a dude who jumped off a cross ship but victimizing someone who got drugged by a one night stand lol

Uhh yeah, he was a victim? And please don't associate me with the rest of this board because this place is a weird bunch that I just can't relate to very much I guess.

A victim of what, his own shitty decision making?

A_Good_Boy posted...

A victim of what, his own shitty decision making?

He was talking about the guy who was robbed. I never denied him being a victim. Maybe he meant "villainize" or something? But I definitely didn't intend to do that.

BurmesePenguin posted...

Admittedly I don't know, but I would assume this is again not related to open water shark attacks. 90% of shark attacks are non-deadly because they mostly occur in shallow waters where the victim can retreat and the shark has limited movement.

The numbers would also probably be a lot different if you sorted by shark species.

The sharks that can swim in shallow waters are fucking tiny relative to the ones in the deep ocean.

itcheyness posted...

https://neal.fun/deep-sea/

Sleep tight!

that was one of the coolest things Ive seen. Nothing as scary as I imagined but a lot of trippy stuff. Everything in the Halden (spelling?) zone looks like an alien species

A_Good_Boy posted...

Polar bears don't eat people either but you still wouldn't go and hug one. Even if this kid had pulled up Wikipedia on his phone moments before jumping in the water to determine his likelihood of surviving a swim in shark infested waters it would still be an incredibly idiotic thing to do.

And I never said he should jump into shark infested water. Nobody is saying that it was a smart thing to do. All I said was sharks rarely attack people. And when they do, they rarely eat (or even kill) the victim Im not saying jumping into the water was smart. I was just correcting something you said

BurmesePenguin posted...

Admittedly I don't know, but I would assume this is again not related to open water shark attacks. 90% of shark attacks are non-deadly because they mostly occur in shallow waters where the victim can retreat and the shark has limited movement.

Maybe Like I said, he had other problems Like drowning in the ocean since it was the middle of the night, and he may have exhausted himself But Im just giving the statistics and facts that Ive read about

I wonder how cold that water was.

LoZguy709 posted...

Please don't misconstrue what I said to be saying he deserved to be drugged. He just had a higher degree of deliberation in a situation that ended up going poorly for him. I'm thankful to hear that nothing worse happened to him, even though things could have gone even further south when you think about the possibilities that come with that vulnerability. And as Kicksave said, a lot of people aren't aware of what lies below cruise ships, especially at age 18.

this doesnt even make sense. Looking at it as pragmatically as possible the drugged dude had a 50-50 chance. The person was either good or bad.

this dude was 100% in control of the situation and put himself in danger.

Its absurd to say people have priorities skewed while also saying the dude who decided his fate had less control than the dude who was taken advantage of.

Payzmaykr posted...

Also, statistics are highly manipulated when it comes to shark attack fatalities. So many nations and states thrive on tourism and they would never release the real numbers. Many go unreported because nobody knows or it happens somewhere with little outside contact.

So, are you saying shark attacks and deaths are higher than statistically reported, and do you have a source for this? I mean it sounds true enough but a source would be cool...

LinkPizza posted...

And I never said he should jump into shark infested water. Nobody is saying that it was a smart thing to do. All I said was sharks rarely attack people. And when they do, they rarely eat (or even kill) the victim Im not saying jumping into the water was smart. I was just correcting something you said

Fair enough

indica posted...

So, are you saying shark attacks and deaths are higher than statistically reported, and do you have a source for this? I mean it sounds true enough but a source would be cool...

I would also like a source, if available It could be possible That said, it would need to be a crazy amount to make a difference Apparently, according to the statistics, only 137 people were attacked in 2021 And apparently, thats considered a high amount Even 10 times that amount, its still a small amount of people Though, Im not sure how much they could really cover up

Zeeak4444 posted...

this doesnt even make sense. Looking at it as pragmatically as possible the drugged dude had a 50-50 chance. The person was either good or bad.

this dude was 100% in control of the situation and put himself in danger.

Its absurd to say people have priorities skewed while also saying the dude who decided his fate had less control than the dude who was taken advantage of.

Haha I dont know what youre basing these probabilities, but I dont think one should operate with the mentality that people you meet in clubs at 5:30 (which was by his own report, so it could have been somewhere else at 5:30) are people you should put your trust in. At least be very on guard and keep your precious possessions on the down low. It sucks what happened to the guy, but I have a hard time believing he was the sharpest box of crayons either.

LoZguy709 posted...

Haha I dont know what youre basing these probabilities, but I dont think one should operate with the mentality that people you meet in clubs at 5:30 (which was by his own report, so it could have been somewhere else at 5:30) are people you should put your trust in. At least be very on guard and keep your precious possessions on the down low. It sucks what happened to the guy, but I have a hard time believing he was the sharpest box of crayons either.

Probably depends on the people you have around Ive have tons of hookups like this in the middle of the night or whatever Never been drugged of robbed Same goes for the people I know in my life, AFAIK I dont think this is a super common occurrence or anything This seems pretty rare, but thats not based on anything except my experiences

Whether or not sharks eat people doesn't really matter when all it takes is the shark tearing your arm off or majorly injuring you to prevent you from swimming above water

LoZguy709 posted...

Haha I dont know what youre basing these probabilities, but I dont think one should operate with the mentality that people you meet in clubs at 5:30 (which was by his own report, so it could have been somewhere else at 5:30) are people you should put your trust in. At least be very on guard and keep your precious possessions on the down low. It sucks what happened to the guy, but I have a hard time believing he was the sharpest box of crayons either.

thats not the issue here though. One person was 100% in control of the situation while one was not.

nothing else really matters when it comes down to culpability.

edit: I get what youre saying I really do, but just because you dont agree with the lifestyle choices doesnt make said choices inherently dangerous.

LinkPizza posted...

Probably depends on the people you have around Ive have tons of hookups like this in the middle of the night or whatever Never been drugged of robbed Same goes for the people I know in my life, AFAIK I dont think this is a super common occurrence or anything This seems pretty rare, but thats not based on anything except my experiences

No youre right that its very contextual, but the surrounding circumstances of that story just seemed very question-raising, but Im gonna stop myself here before I go any further into anything that could be construed as victim-blaming (you know, one of the themes running through this topic).

Edit: Also, just to add, I recognize that we need to be concerned about the misdeeds of people more than those of sharks, which is why I expressed in that topic that I hope she is caught and held as accountable as anyone else would.

deoxxys posted...

Whether or not sharks eat people doesn't really matter when all it takes is the shark tearing your arm off or majorly injuring you to prevent you from swimming above water

That is true. If it attacked him, it definitely wouldnt help Though, even without it attacking, he probably wouldnt have made it Especially if other things were also in the water Either way, trying to swim away would definitely have hurt, as it would use more energy needed to say afloat

LoZguy709 posted...

No youre right that its very contextual, but the surrounding circumstances of that story just seemed very question-raising, but Im gonna stop myself here before I go any further into anything that could be construed as victim-blaming (you know, one of the themes running through this topic).

I havent seen the story. Im mostly basing it on things said about it here Though, based on the limited information I have, I dont think I can place much blame on him, if any

LinkPizza posted...

I havent seen the story. Im mostly basing it on things said about it here Though, based on the limited information I have, I dont think I can place much blame on him, if any

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/woman-drugged-and-robbed-miami-man-out-of-over-600k-in-jewelry-police/3036187/?amp=1

Also, to be fair, the police could have confirmed with the club that thats where they met, at least at one point, but I admit I had a degree of skepticism. However it happened, Id precaution most people to not flaunt their wealth to people they just met. Not to invalidate the wrong that came unto this dude or anything.

LoZguy709 posted...

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/woman-drugged-and-robbed-miami-man-out-of-over-600k-in-jewelry-police/3036187/?amp=1

*try to watch video of suspect*
*get hit with a 30 second ad*
What is this shit...

Is there any OFFICIAL reports or credible sources that mention anything about a shark? I've watched the video dozens of times at full brightness and even slowed down. It is a bit eerie at around 3 seconds it looks like there is indeed something besides the buoy and the kid. But this whole thing feels sort of...sensationalized? Like those cheesy "100% REAL GHOST FOOTAGE" videos that are based on a couple frames of a shadow that vaguely looks like something.

Obviously this is much different because unlike ghosts, this actually could have happened. Idk just playing devil's advocate and feel like it could be as simple as he just went under from the current.

It only took a few seconds for his body to disappear (likely pulled under by heaven knows what)

Shit's terrifying.

LoZguy709 posted...

This board is weird, feeling more deeply for a spendthrift Miami man getting a tough life lesson than a kid who lost everything on a stupid, impulsive decision and likely had a really traumatic last few moments.

This kid died in one of the dumbest ways possible. It's hard to feel sorry for him.

Evil_Nice_Guy posted...

This kid died in one of the dumbest ways possible. It's hard to feel sorry for him.

He could have been a dumbfuck or really not thinking things through clearly in that moment. But if either of those things prevent you from feeling disturbed by his misguided and likely torturous death, where this man-kid just thought for a split span of time he would only land in water, I dont know what to say.

I wonder how those kids felt once they sobered up the next morning and realized their friend is dead, even the one who went "bye bye" was probably too drunk to realize the gravity of the situation until later

I didn't watch the video but the kid who say "bye bye" may not have understood what was happening. Might have just been joking around and didn't understand the guy was in actual danger. But still fucked that the dead kid might have heard that as his last words spoken to him

Evil_Nice_Guy posted...

This kid died in one of the dumbest ways possible. It's hard to feel sorry for him.

That says more about you than anything else tbh.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/4/AACpnzAAEhrm.jpg

The video quality is too low to say for sure but I can definitely see why people think that's a shark. (Only editing I did was raise the exposure)

Funkydog posted...

That says more about you than anything else tbh.

So I take it you aren't a fan of the Darwin Awards? Cause if this offends you, don't have a sense of humor:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/1/AAfdDqAAEhrt.jpg

Also, why would I feel bad for people who die in stupid ways? It's like the anti-vaxxers and anti-mask people who got Covid and died during the pandemic. Why the hell should I feel bad for them?

LoZguy709 posted...

He could have been a dumbfuck or really not thinking things through clearly in that moment. But if either of those things prevent you from feeling disturbed by his misguided and likely torturous death, where this man-kid just thought for a split span of time he would only land in water, I dont know what to say.

I feel disturbed for him but I don't feel sorry for him.

Having empathy doesn't mean I dont get comedy. Nor does being an edge lord make you cool

You can think he was a fucking idiot while also feeling sorry for him btw. It's a terrible way to die.

You can slow the footage down and very clearly see

i'm gonna stop you right there you can't see shit

not noticing anyone call out the shark that's so obvious to see through all that compression

Nm, I feel bad for him. May he RIP.

I'm assuming they've stopped searching for him? Wonder if they'll bust out a submarine to try and locate him or something.

Rich privileged High school students on a cruise pull a prank and face the consequences?

Im shocked!

--Zero- posted...

Rich privileged High school students on a cruise pull a prank and face the consequences?

Im shocked!

This is a weird take.

Hornezz posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/4/AACpnzAAEhrm.jpg

The video quality is too low to say for sure but I can definitely see why people think that's a shark. (Only editing I did was raise the exposure)

this honestly looks like a wave crest, I can see how it would look like a shark tail at night with a reflection.

But as others have said, the likely scenario is that he got caught under by the current and was too drunk to realize he was in deep trouble and tired himself out too quickly.

i dont think a shark had anything to do here.

--Zero- posted...

Rich privileged High school students on a cruise pull a prank and face the consequences?

Im shocked!

So yeah, dude was 35. I don't think even THAT is still in high school in some of the shitty education hating red states.

Heineken14 posted...

So yeah, dude was 35. I don't think even THAT is still in high school in some of the shitty education hating red states.

what? The kid in the article who jumped off the ship was 18.

chrono625 posted...

what? The kid in the article who jumped off the ship was 18.

....ok then I guess there have been 2 recent incidents. lol

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-coast-guard-searching-man-fell-overboard-carnival-cruise-ship-flori-rcna86804

Edit
Haha, yeah I now see why I was getting confused about this, cause this was the story that I had seen.

oh my god guys you can see sharks in that picture of the carnival ship too

indica posted...

So, are you saying shark attacks and deaths are higher than statistically reported, and do you have a source for this? I mean it sounds true enough but a source would be cool...

The information out there is very controlled, but for example, lets say that we find a dead body in the water. Its bitten completely in half and there are wounds on the hands that suggest self defense. If there is ONE drop of water in the lungs, they will 100% call it a drowning if no one saw it.

Also, a lot of the people who get eaten arent in first world countries. They dont have newspapers or internet in some of these places, and the only way to really know is to ask locals. I actually have an entire book of shark attack cases dating back hundreds of years with newspaper articles from all over.

Weve all seen Jaws and we know what lengths the cities will go to to prevent a loss of tourism. These things are on the warpath this year, though. Did you guys see the video of the attack in Sydney? The video wasnt really clear (it could have been eating anything), but the other video shows a human body floating away in a bunch of blood and then the shark comes back and takes him under.

I just watched the video again. More and more it looks like something swimming and changing directions rather than just the wave crest thing.

Its probably why he turned around and swam the other way.

No loss he deserved it

Cobra1010 posted...

I just watched the video again. More and more it looks like something swimming and changing directions rather than just the wave crest thing.

Its probably why he turned around and swam the other way.

Exactly. It did a 180 and went toward him, then he swam away from the ring. Why would he swim away from safety? Then you can see the sharks head come from underneath and grab his foot. You can also see a fin breach the water when it swims toward him.

Theres no way thats a wave.

The attack in Sydney was easier to see the shark, but harder to see the human until the guys body was floating off. Thats when the shark came back. At first, I thought it was just eating a seal, by the second video I saw shows a Caucasian humans torso in a cloud of blood and seagulls, and then the shark comes back. They say it was a 15ft great white.

ARREST THE GUY THAT DID THE DARE. Whoever dared the guy to jump off should be criminally punished. Obviously nobody in the right mind would ask someone to jump off if it wasn't based on malice.

Iamdepressed posted...

ARREST THE GUY THAT DID THE DARE. Whoever dared the guy to jump off should be criminally punished. Obviously nobody in the right mind would ask someone to jump off if it wasn't based on malice.

Arrest him for what? The dude wasn't pushed, he jumped in on his cognisance. Just because someone dares you to do something dangerous doesn't mean you have to. The dude that jumped was aware what he was doing was dangerous and risky, even if he didn't know there were sharks in the water.