Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 8: Fox Only, Final Destination

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masterplum
05/27/23 10:23:48 AM
#201:


Obellisk posted...
correct. I think scum doesn't touch Chris after day 2.

I think scum males a poor play in using a watch item on Chris in hopes to find the doc.

I also think Town Plum comes in with a less defensive posture.

Why would scum not touch chris after day 2. Did he not look towny after that day?

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Obellisk
05/27/23 10:23:51 AM
#202:


##vote: Plum


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Corrik7
05/27/23 10:25:10 AM
#203:


##vote: Lea

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Corrik7
05/27/23 10:38:31 AM
#204:


masterplum posted...
Why would scum not touch chris after day 2. Did he not look towny after that day?
He is confirmed town. They would assume any watches or saves would be on Chris imo.

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changmas
05/27/23 10:42:12 AM
#205:


i expected chris to die last night tbh im on plum's side here

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changmas
05/27/23 10:47:30 AM
#206:


i intend to vote for lea but i would like her to show up and defend herself first

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MZero
05/27/23 10:48:38 AM
#207:


Obellisk posted...
Are we to believe that Town has a full time Tracker, Watcher and Cop? Seems like a lot of investigative power in a role madness game and we still don't have half the claims.

I'm town reading plum but this does seem like a lot

also scumplum had no reason to claim watcher when he did

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masterplum
05/27/23 10:49:31 AM
#208:


changmas posted...
i intend to vote for lea but i would like her to show up and defend herself first

The fact that she hasnt is all you need to know.

It is very hard to put up a defense when you are almost certain to die

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changmas
05/27/23 10:53:18 AM
#209:


masterplum posted...
The fact that she hasnt is all you need to know.

It is very hard to put up a defense when you are almost certain to die

i mean it's barely been 12 hours, there could be legitimate real world reasons

i'll at least give her a fair shake of it, it's theoretically possible cody is lying

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Obellisk
05/27/23 10:57:24 AM
#210:


Corrik7 posted...
He is confirmed town. They would assume any watches or saves would be on Chris imo.


which is why Plum coming in with a watch on Obv town chris is just the worst way for Plum to use that power night 2.

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Obellisk
05/27/23 10:58:00 AM
#211:


And it only makes sense from a scum standpoint.

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masterplum
05/27/23 11:04:47 AM
#213:


You realize finding a doctor would be good too right. I can maneuver that

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:04:50 AM
#214:


changmas posted...
i intend to vote for lea but i would like her to show up and defend herself first
Why would lea need to be here before you vote her? Sounds like an excuse to not vote her.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:07:48 AM
#215:


Wait. Sbell killed death???

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Obellisk
05/27/23 11:10:07 AM
#216:


Corrik7 posted...
Wait. Sbell killed death???

I did.

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Obellisk
05/27/23 11:10:59 AM
#217:


masterplum posted...
You realize finding a doctor would be good too right. I can maneuver that

I can't see town plum saying tohimself, I'm going to watch Chris and worst case I find the doctor...

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:11:14 AM
#218:


Wait Lea went to MZERO. I was hella drunk yesterday apparently. I remember none of this. You are telling me the bodyguard went to... wallz night 1 and mzero night 2. Lmfao

Yeah okay. This is laughable at this point. Burn burn burn.

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masterplum
05/27/23 11:16:10 AM
#219:


Oh

Scum has items

Scum doesnt need to fire off its second shot N1 if the entire team can use it.

Sbell is scum who fired off the teams second shot item N2. Duh

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changmas
05/27/23 11:16:33 AM
#220:


why would he claim it though

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masterplum
05/27/23 11:18:26 AM
#221:


Corrik who are our last two scum members

Im going to be honest I have pretty much ignored everything Ulti has said regarding his role all game figuring I would just pretend he is vanilla and judge his play. Maybe its time to look into that.

Im probably dead tonight but maybe we can still figure this out looking at Lea and joy rock defenses

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masterplum
05/27/23 11:19:14 AM
#222:


changmas posted...
why would he claim it though

So that chang would say Why would he claim it

In a game with possibly no vanillas what are your other options? You have to claim power. This is fairly safe

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:20:57 AM
#223:


I read like 3 people say there is 3 scum left. It's a game of 17. 4 scum in 17 is below threshold of 25%. There is 4 left unless a 3rd party.

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masterplum
05/27/23 11:22:50 AM
#224:


Corrik7 posted...
I read like 3 people say there is 3 scum left. It's a game of 17. 4 scum in 17 is below threshold of 25%. There is 4 left unless a 3rd party.

I said final 2 after Lea and Sbell

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:22:50 AM
#225:


SirChris posted...
Ulti also immediately called out joyrock on saying townie and joyrock got super defensive

Hm
Told you he is town.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:24:57 AM
#226:


Obellisk posted...
would have turned me into an unblockable vig so it's likely scum has a bulletproof.
Hmmm

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:28:03 AM
#227:


Ultis role is game breaking as described just fyi

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:29:44 AM
#228:


masterplum posted...
I said final 2 after Lea and Sbell
Wall and Chris clearly both state 3 scum is left.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:32:45 AM
#229:


Nevermind. Wall says 4 scum left. Chris though says 3 left.

If a 3rd party, it's Chris.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 11:33:28 AM
#230:


SirChris posted...
11 players probably 3 scum my re-read gives me...

Chang
Sbell
Crescent
Cody
Ulti
Red

As either spewed town/looking very town from joyrock interactions and votes

Leaving a very broad no thought put into poe of lea/wall/plum/mzero/corrik

And more specifically


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Obellisk
05/27/23 11:40:20 AM
#231:


That's just dumb logic. There is no reason to need to make Chang need to say "Why would he claim it". There is one person calling me scum plum and it's you turning whatever you can to make it stick.

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Obellisk
05/27/23 11:42:58 AM
#232:


What's even funnier plum is that you watched Chris with the intent of catching scum who obviously is going to kill Town Chris yet you want to push that scum really used two kills and neither were pointed at Chris.


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MZero
05/27/23 11:52:03 AM
#233:


changmas posted...
why would he claim it though

I think this happened in a recent game where scum claimed a vig shot. I want to say it was Scare in F21 mafia and he day vigged Lopen, but he didn't have to post in topic so no one knew why day stopped and Lopen died, but he claimed it immediately

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Obellisk
05/27/23 12:08:24 PM
#234:


that makes no sense here after everything that's been going on.

it's also been made quite clear I do not have the cajones to make a play like that as scum.

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Obellisk
05/27/23 12:09:00 PM
#235:


not that I need to rely on that as any type of defense.

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masterplum
05/27/23 12:36:00 PM
#238:


Ok Ulti, I have basically ignored everything you said role related up till now because you make shit up all the time

I want

  1. A confirmation that everything you are saying is true, and if you lie about this and are town I will mock you endlessly post game
  2. A detailed description of what your role is and what it has told you


Because apparently this is having a real impact on game reads now

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wallmasterz
05/27/23 12:42:46 PM
#239:


masterplum posted...
Because apparently this is having a real impact on game reads now

This was the dominant focus of d2

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Corrik7
05/27/23 12:42:59 PM
#240:


The thing about ultis role is

A. It's game breaking.

Or

B. Scum has a way to neutralize it.

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wallmasterz
05/27/23 12:44:37 PM
#241:


Corrik7 posted...
Told you he is town. (Because ulti called out joyrock for saying townie)

Corrik I struggle to believe you honestly think a little bussing is outside of ultis scum game capabilities

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Obellisk
05/27/23 12:45:27 PM
#242:


Is ultis role seeing items only?

it's random what he sees?

night 1 he saw the goldeen?

night 2 he saw what?

is he claiming he only sees Scum Items?

So many questions.


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Corrik7
05/27/23 12:47:00 PM
#243:


wallmasterz posted...
Corrik I struggle to believe you honestly think a little bussing is outside of ultis scum game capabilities
Ulti is town. Not entertaining it. Chris and ulti are as town as can be.

When Lea flips scum, it confirms you, mzero, and Plum town also. Don't worry. I'll hard carry again this game.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 12:48:11 PM
#244:


Then we got 3 scum in

Sbell
Cody
Crescent
Chang
Red

Red is probably a sure thing as well.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 12:48:49 PM
#245:


Outside chance 2 scum and Chris is indy but if he is indy and pulled that charade to confirm as town then our mod let us down badly.

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wallmasterz
05/27/23 12:53:19 PM
#246:


Corrik7 posted...
Outside chance 2 scum and Chris is indy but if he is indy and pulled that charade to confirm as town then our mod let us down badly.

Im really frustrated that happened as a potential chris lynch was gaining traction because it left me with a seed of doubt. I have been told scum use any means necessary to win within the rules, including emotional manipulation. I think back to Chris and sultan playing up sultans concussion. Its true chris is probably still town but yeah, unfortunate timing to say the least.

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wallmasterz
05/27/23 12:56:20 PM
#247:


##Vote: Lea

Life happens, and it might explain why youve been reading along but havent checked in yet. Hope youre doing well, Lea.

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Corrik7
05/27/23 12:56:46 PM
#248:


wallmasterz posted...
Im really frustrated that happened as a potential chris lynch was gaining traction because it left me with a seed of doubt. I have been told scum use any means necessary to win within the rules, including emotional manipulation. I think back to Chris and sultan playing up sultans concussion. Its true chris is probably still town but yeah, unfortunate timing to say the least.
If he was scum, he would have been modkilled instantly. There is some possible leeway as indy there because the host might want to keep their cute role alive and let it go under the rug.

Plus, Chris used it to kill the godfather, so no way he is scum. He is confirmed not scum and its that simple. But, I won't mention this again because it's taboo to discuss this. Just if you are town and still think Chris is scum, this is beyond Sultan levels of oof from last game with your reads

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Corrik7
05/27/23 12:59:04 PM
#249:


We get Lea. Then we get red.

Sbell possibly is alright.

Crescent and Chang are the last two imo.

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wallmasterz
05/27/23 12:59:17 PM
#250:


I didnt realize what happened would be grounds for a mod kill pending alignment. And yes, Ill drop the subject - but you may do well to remember I can still count the number of online mafia games Ive played on one hand, so things which should be obvious to a more experienced player might not yet be obvious to me.

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