Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 8: Fox Only, Final Destination

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Obellisk posted...

Gracia senor.

Youre not scum wondering if you should stop wasting your time on tossing an rb my way, right? I dont think youve suspected me much

But anyway I will be quiet now. Lea is a fine direction to go in today atm although I like having discussions over quick days. I stand by my request to mass and hash everything out but I won't twist anyone's arm.

Ping me if you need me

SirChris posted...

But the problem of course is that Lea visited two people I find scummy

So I don't get this

All it says is the scumteam has "a pool of items"... Which means it's possible scum has items that could be used on other scum. I feel like we don't have enough information to dissect this yet.

wallmasterz posted...

Youre not scum wondering if you should stop wasting your time on tossing an rb my way, right? I dont think youve suspected me much

I haven't, and I've avoided it as I've felt strongly about you being town.

but the poe is getting is getting smaller.

I think its Lea/corrik/red/?

for remaining scum

Red has practically been nonexistent just like his last scum game

wallmasterz posted...

I think its Lea/corrik/red/?

for remaining scum

[4] Red - (Ulti), Lea, (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), Chris, Ulti, Joyrock
[3] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris)
[2] Cody - SBell, (Chris), Chang, (Joyrock)
[2] Lea - (Ulti), Plum, Corrik, (Chang)

[7] Joyrock - (Ulti), (Chris), (Chris), Ulti, Chris, Death, (Lea), Cody, Lea, Chang, Corrik
[3] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris),(Death), (Chris), (Chris), (Cody)
[1] Chris - Red, (Ulti), (Lea), (SBell)
[1] Lea - (Ulti), (Plum), (Corrik), (Chang), Plum, (Corrik), (Ulti), (Chris)
[1] Red - (Ulti), (Lea), (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), (Chris), Joyrock, (Ulti), (Cody), (Corrik), (Plum)

These votals and that team feel at odds unless scum is doing effectively nothing but bussing and not even trying to lynch town.

Lea's only key votes are Red and Joyrock
Corrik's votes are on all three of them
Red is doing nothing on Chris at end of day
Joyrock put Red into the lead

wallmasterz posted...

taken from Kirbys intro to this game

Host's note: Roles were not rolled at the time Ben withdrew from the game, but I had already written the first half of his flavor and didn't want it to go to waste. So the second half was freshly written to fit a Vanilla role, as yet another example of a BLUE TEAM Vanilla role PM.)

Does Kirby say yet another example of a blue team vanilla PM if there were no blue team vanilla PMs?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Wall did a lot of soft defending of joyrock actually

Well lets get back to talking about ulti then. The three votes left on him were myself (I realize no one else can take me as town confirmed), mzero (also visited by Lea like me) and town cop ctes.

ctes was on ulti extremely persistently. @changmas theres your connection, Id wager.

Oh wow. Just realized ulti, Lea and joyrock all voted for red there.

Wait who did Lea visit night 2???

Ulti also immediately called out joyrock on saying townie and joyrock got super defensive

Hm

Crescent, Leas vote on joyrock also makes more sense if the two lynch leaders (joyrock + ulti) were both scum.

Crescent-Moon posted...

[4] Red - (Ulti), Lea, (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), Chris, Ulti, Joyrock
[3] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris)
[2] Cody - SBell, (Chris), Chang, (Joyrock)
[2] Lea - (Ulti), Plum, Corrik, (Chang)

[7] Joyrock - (Ulti), (Chris), (Chris), Ulti, Chris, Death, (Lea), Cody, Lea, Chang, Corrik
[3] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris),(Death), (Chris), (Chris), (Cody)
[1] Chris - Red, (Ulti), (Lea), (SBell)
[1] Lea - (Ulti), (Plum), (Corrik), (Chang), Plum, (Corrik), (Ulti), (Chris)
[1] Red - (Ulti), (Lea), (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), (Chris), Joyrock, (Ulti), (Cody), (Corrik), (Plum)

These votals and that team feel at odds unless scum is doing effectively nothing but bussing and not even trying to lynch town.

Lea's only key votes are Red and Joyrock
Corrik's votes are on all three of them
Red is doing nothing on Chris at end of day
Joyrock put Red into the lead

Crescent I am out of wim. Please bury wall for me. Ty

Ok shit. Ulti is scum. Ctes knew it and acted accordingly. They killed ctes because of it

SirChris posted...

Crescent I am out of wim. Please bury wall for me. Ty

I noted yesterday Wall had too many forced arguments and too many attempts to pair people together with loose at best reasoning.

..I don't know what "Wim" means though.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I noted yesterday Wall had too many forced arguments and too many attempts to pair people together with loose at best reasoning.

..I don't know what "Wim" means though.

Want it more. Energy.

wallmasterz posted...

Ok shit. Ulti is scum. Ctes knew it and acted accordingly. They killed ctes because of it

See here's the problem with this logic.

Say Ctes scanned Ulti and knew he was scum. Ctes sees Ulti under a lot of early pressure, but it eventually dissipates towards the inactives, who are often easy targets for misdirection.

...Why in hell would Ctes not have said something?

wallmasterz posted...

Ok shit. Ulti is scum. Ctes knew it and acted accordingly. They killed ctes because of it

is this a last ditch effort under duress or what

ctesjbuvf posted...

Chris scum with Ulti is only possible because Chris has made it so that he can literally never be confirmed town again lol.

But I think it's likely enough Ulti visited Chris as he was trying to hint that earlier. We will see from his flip if we lynch him. I don't think Chris is the next place to go. I think it's likely enough Chris had a solid read and somehow managed to catch Ulti on top of it. This is his work after all.

But again if you humor this pairing, you still lynch Ulti first.

Hm

Obviously its not my preference but its not going to cripple town if you mislynch me. With ctes and death dead my ability is not that great (other than at drawing the roleblock apparently)

I cant imagine why it would be preferable to lynching Lea if you believe plum is town, though.

What's your ability

wallmasterz posted...

Obviously its not my preference but its not going to cripple town if you mislynch me. With ctes and death dead my ability is not that great (other than at drawing the roleblock apparently)

I cant imagine why it would be preferable to lynching Lea if you believe plum is town, though.

Another cryptic hint leading into saying it isn't "great" anymore. You should probably just claim.

1-Shot Power Up. Whoever I target, their night action is guaranteed to go through. It beats role block if my target gets role blocked but if I am role blocked it doesnt go through.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Were not mislynching you. Youre confirmed town. Didnt really need me to confirm that but its giga mega confirmed now. Also if youre the one scum stunned with a deku nut last night just claim it. I can confirm it happened, but I dont know which player was targeted.

##Vote: Lea

Bye. No hard feelings.

Claim your night actions very specifically

wallmasterz posted...

1-Shot Power Up. Whoever I target, their night action is guaranteed to go through. It beats role block if my target gets role blocked but if I am role blocked it doesnt go through.

What are your actions each night?

Crescent-Moon posted...

What are your actions each night?

n1 I didnt use it because I didnt want to risk using it on scum, it seemed like a shot in the dark worth saving for a rainy day.

n2 I tried using it on plum because short of a gambit involving a fake uncountered watcher claim/scum watcher role, it seemed likely plum was town and I thought he would draw the roleblock over me if he was town.

Crescent-Moon posted...

See here's the problem with this logic.

Say Ctes scanned Ulti and knew he was scum. Ctes sees Ulti under a lot of early pressure, but it eventually dissipates towards the inactives, who are often easy targets for misdirection.

...Why in hell would Ctes not have said something?

I mean, ctes did say something. I can go back and iso but I clearly recall he was begging for town to stay the course on an ulti lynch, which I did. It didnt occur to me ctes mightve truly known something, but I could see scum ulti or a scummate viewing that as ctes having a guilty scan. He was extremely persistent.

for ulti to be scum and to have pulled what he did day 1...

I still think ulti is probably scum but ctes initial posts to start d2 dont really come across as having a guilty scan on Ulti, to be fair.

I think while a lot of walls joyrock stuff looks bad it makes sense to bus joyrock day 2 tbh

Remember when Ulti hinted a scan on Chris

good times

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Huh

well Wallz power doesnt make sense at all. Why the hell is that one use

But a Lea lynch will tell us exactly what she did to Wallz so that is irrelevant really

Oh wait maybe wallz is another French vanilla role

I mean, my ability gives someone a strongman modifier. Its not silly making that one use from a balance standpoint especially since town might all be power

wallmasterz posted...

I mean, my ability gives someone a strongman modifier. Its not silly making that one use from a balance standpoint especially since town might all be power

would have turned me into an unblockable vig so it's likely scum has a bulletproof.

Obellisk posted...

would have turned me into an unblockable vig so it's likely scum has a bulletproof.

What?

That doesnt mean that at all.

I still strongly suspect Sbell is scum still for the record. I need to check if his shot makes sense at all based on his suspects

SirChris posted...

I think while a lot of walls joyrock stuff looks bad it makes sense to bus joyrock day 2 tbh

Joyrock had long since proven his uselessness at that point, so it makes sense. It's also another why we need more from Red. Red's vote being on a splinter at end of day is bad, but I also feel like Red who's scum with Joyrock doesn't even hesitate to countervote him.

I know this totally is the pot calling the kettle black but Red really needs to do more. I barely remember him in this game so far.

masterplum posted...

What?

That doesnt mean that at all.

I still strongly suspect Sbell is scum still for the record. I need to check if his shot makes sense at all based on his suspects

why not? I think it makes sense.

Plum, let's not do this, you know I'm not scum. and if I was I'd have no reason to.admit to killing death.

Ulti you told us d2 you got info from your beetle lmao

So ulti you are saying your 2 beetles told you one piece of information

Votals in Dream Land

[2] Lea- Plum, Ulti

wallmasterz posted...

So ulti you are saying your 2 beetles told you one piece of information

My pressing issue is what he's claiming is so... Oddly specific. You claim roleblocked a couple of times. Ulti then claimed that scum "used a Deku nut to stun someone last night" without knowing the target. He didn't claim any other items were used or a target of his own last night.

Ulti is 2/2 in the publically available knowledge claim/scum would know claim

Lea/ulti/?

SirChris posted...

When I said I was up for a joyrock lynch wall countered with saying he didn't mind lynching me and mzero was pretty insistent on staying on ulti who instead voted joyrock with me

That's possibly a bus I guess and then it's something like joyrock/red/ulti/Lea and the game is just bus happy.

I mean just last game I insisted on lynching Sultan over obvscum ctes causd I'm stubborn!

And Ulti is scum anyway

MZero posted...

I mean just last game I insisted on lynching Sultan over obvscum ctes causd I'm stubborn!

And Ulti is scum anyway

Yeah I think so I was just thinking out loud