Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 8: Fox Only, Final Destination

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SirChris
05/26/23 7:47:58 PM
#51:


wallmasterz posted...
##Vote: Ulti

To be clear this vote is not indicative of sheeping Chris, I have yet to see him roll town in a game Im in (though I think thats maybe changed this time). Kill Chris if hes alive in a couple days before he goes on his own terms, triggering his special vest netting 3 extra kills for scum etc.

I didnt think of it until n1, but I did have the thought on my is before d2 started - i also lean scum on ulti. Im used to ulti moving his vote around, sure, but hes given all these middling reasons for people being scum. Plum is so scum, wall is so scum, possibly bussing red (or just fueling a mislynch if Chris is wrong). basically it felt a bit like he was just dumping fuel on any given fire looking to see what stuck.

Totally agree with death - ulti not mentioning suspicion of Chris feels like scum ulti knowing too much. Also I lean town on death.

Chris, you asked my thoughts - I agree with most of what you wrote but I still have Lea in my neutral pile and I lean town on ctes though he hasnt really posted much in a while. I was slightly leaning scum on Chang but I think its probably just his posting style, a trap Ive fallen into with death and sultan recently. So yeah. Ctes and now death I lean town, Cody I lean town based on he and I not having the strongest scum game yet, neutral on joyrock, Lea and Chang. Plum I lean town but not as convinced as you seem to be. Sbell lean town. Neutral on Corrik.

Oh yeah, my crescent suspicion is still there. While ulti was busy saying to lynch everyone who sneezed like obvscum I seem to recall ulti being consistent about not wanting crescent lynched. Also I think red and crescent are normally at odds with each other but outside of a comment by red (if memory serves) after crescent overshared, theyve barely mentioned each other. I think ulti/red/crescent/?/? is possible

You know who else gives me pause? Mzero. Just a vibe thing. Im on mobile as always and its 4:30 so enjoy this wall everyone.


I find this to be a pretty scummy post in hindsight

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SirChris
05/26/23 7:50:23 PM
#52:


That being said through topic 4 I find little to not find partnered about ulti and red with joyrock

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SirChris
05/26/23 7:53:31 PM
#53:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


In response to crescent wanting to eat joyrock

Maybe plum and I were both right day 2

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 7:56:06 PM
#54:


Yeah I realize my neutrality on joyrock doesnt look good but I stand by it. They didnt have a lot of content to form a opinion on, and being a new player myself who has had some rough games as town, the d1 vote on Marth didnt make me automatically think oh, scum for someone playing their first game in ages.

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SirChris
05/26/23 7:56:17 PM
#55:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



Lea sure did enjoy casing people who voted joyrock eod1 huh

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:00:44 PM
#56:


RuneterranSnap posted...
##unvote
##vote: Cody


Town

Population cody

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:02:51 PM
#57:


RuneterranSnap posted...
##unvote
##vote: Cody

Kirby321 posted...
Insert Votals Here
[4] Red - (Ulti), Lea, (Chris), (Chris), (Joyrock), Chris, Ulti, Joyrock
[3] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes, (Chris)
[2] Cody - SBell, (Chris), Chang, (Joyrock)
[2] Lea - (Ulti), Plum, Corrik, (Chang)
[0] Joyrock - (Ulti)
[0] Plum - (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (Ulti)

With 15 players, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends on Wednesday at 7 PM EDT, approximately 20 hours from now.


Hm. Puts red in the lead here which does seem to dash some of my hopes and dreams of red being scum

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:04:13 PM
#58:


I think Corrik and Lea are scum together. Just last game Corrik was bragging about how he mixes up his scum game and sometimes busses the shit out of his teammates.

Corrik sucking up to Chris with his latest sheeping offer also smells. Reads to me like someone who is not interested in solving and trying to earn points at the same time.

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:06:00 PM
#59:


7:52. 8:00 (all times EST)

anyone care to guess what these numbers are

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:08:45 PM
#60:


SirChris posted...
##vote: joyrock

I can't really hate on if corrik has been wrong tbh I have been wrong a lot too so lets solve the counterwagon from day 1


Ok topic 6 I start joyrock wagon. Let's see what our players thought of this one

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:09:36 PM
#61:


I went back to ulti on mzero's insistence

Uh oh mzero

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:10:58 PM
#62:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Sure I buy it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Joyrock

Ulti sheeping me a day after we argue all day is a very town ulti thing to do tbh

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:11:24 PM
#63:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Sure I buy it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Joyrock

MZero posted...
Chris no

Stand firm


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SirChris
05/26/23 8:12:59 PM
#64:


wallmasterz posted...

I am neutral on joyrock because weve been giving absolutely nothing to parse, but I disagree - if joyrock is town it tells us way less than if joyrock is scum.

At this point wouldnt ultis flip tell us a hell of a lot more since it has sucked all the oxygen out of
d2?

What did you learn from joyrock scum, wall?

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Corrik7
05/26/23 8:13:08 PM
#65:


wallmasterz posted...
I think Corrik and Lea are scum together. Just last game Corrik was bragging about how he mixes up his scum game and sometimes busses the shit out of his teammates.

Corrik sucking up to Chris with his latest sheeping offer also smells. Reads to me like someone who is not interested in solving and trying to earn points at the same time.
I'd rather throw up with agreeing with non confirmed town Chris. But, he is literally confirmed. Whatever. Let's just run this shit. Dude needs a W I think.

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:13:16 PM
#66:


wallmasterz posted...
7:52. 8:00 (all times EST)

anyone care to guess what these numbers are

8:10

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:15:38 PM
#67:


We can probably mass and win today tbh

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:16:55 PM
#68:


@masterplum ease up in Lea for a bit if it isn't asking for too much. Let's solve broadly for a bit

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Obellisk
05/26/23 8:18:23 PM
#69:


wallz, I'm gunna need to know your action.

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:19:02 PM
#70:


I want chang and crescent to claim dead last

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:19:30 PM
#71:


SirChris posted...
wallmasterz posted...

I am neutral on joyrock because weve been giving absolutely nothing to parse, but I disagree - if joyrock is town it tells us way less than if joyrock is scum.

At this point wouldnt ultis flip tell us a hell of a lot more since it has sucked all the oxygen out of
d2?

What did you learn from joyrock scum, wall?

[7] Marth - (Chris), (Lea), (Ulti), Cody, (Ulti), Lea, Death, Ulti, Peaf, Joyrock, Chris
[4] Joyrock - (Chris), Marth, SBell, Crescent, Chang

Less than I hoped, honestly. I think the biggest change is Im less keen on scum crescent now, because I think she probably wouldve made a bigger scene of bussing a scummate.

but look at who voted for Marth. Death and peaf have both flipped town. Obviously Ive got a strong town lean on you Chris and I also think Cody is town. That means town drove the Marth lynch and theres a chance some of those stray votes not on Marth and joyrock are scum. The deciding votes besides joyrock were by town and my strongest town read.

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masterplum
05/26/23 8:20:18 PM
#72:


Sure, under the assumption that Lea is scum

because there is not a chance in hell a bodyguard chooses Mzero of all options

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Crescent-Moon
05/26/23 8:20:25 PM
#73:


Oh hi

What a shock, Joyrock was scum coasting out the end of day 1. Certainly nobody could've seen that coming~

One thing I remember from the end of day 1 though.

SirChris posted... Although probably a good point about joyrock
You said I "probably" made a good point about him being nonconstructive in a nontown way... While voting for me, before jumping to Marth. So I dug a little and quick search says this is the only post where you even mentioned him in topic 3. During this time, you vote for Wall, myself, and Marth.

Why didn't you vote him again?

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masterplum
05/26/23 8:21:13 PM
#74:


Wait, we dont need to mass with Lea dead to rights.

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:21:35 PM
#75:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Oh hi

What a shock, Joyrock was scum coasting out the end of day 1. Certainly nobody could've seen that coming~

One thing I remember from the end of day 1 though.

You said I "probably" made a good point about him being nonconstructive in a nontown way... While voting for me, before jumping to Marth. So I dug a little and quick search says this is the only post where you even mentioned him in topic 3. During this time, you vote for Wall, myself, and Marth.

Why didn't you vote him again?

Peaf's paper Mario defense of joyrock got me to leave him alone at eod

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Crescent-Moon
05/26/23 8:21:42 PM
#76:


wallmasterz posted...
[7] Marth - (Chris), (Lea), (Ulti), Cody, (Ulti), Lea, Death, Ulti, Peaf, Joyrock, Chris
[4] Joyrock - (Chris), Marth, SBell, Crescent, Chang

Less than I hoped, honestly. I think the biggest change is Im less keen on scum crescent now, because I think she probably wouldve made a bigger scene of bussing a scummate.

but look at who voted for Marth. Death and peaf have both flipped town. Obviously Ive got a strong town lean on you Chris and I also think Cody is town. That means town drove the Marth lynch and theres a chance some of those stray votes not on Marth and joyrock are scum. The deciding votes besides joyrock were by town and my strongest town read.
Never trust day 1 splinter votes.

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:21:55 PM
#77:


masterplum posted...
Wait, we dont need to mass with Lea dead to rights.

Ok I will take that as a no to solving broadly fair enough

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:22:26 PM
#78:


Plum why do I find you scummy

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:25:29 PM
#79:


Anyway imo Lea going to mzero isn't exactly a silver bullet as mzero was broadly viewer as towny yesterday but it is your right to solve as you please

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:26:22 PM
#80:


Player List

This is where Im at now

Assuming Town
1. changmas (Zelda)
2. SirChris (Hero)
3. Cody11533 (Rosalina & Luma)
5. Crescent-Moon (Ike)
7. MZero (Joker) (if Lea flips scum)

Assuming Scum
4. Corrik7 (Samus)
6. Lea (Lucina)

Assuming 2 Scum Here

8. Obellisk (Sora)
9. Masterplum (Daisy)
10. red13n/Leafeon13N (Lucario)
11. UltimaterializerX (Peach)

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:28:00 PM
#81:


SirChris posted...
Anyway imo Lea going to mzero isn't exactly a silver bullet as mzero was broadly viewer as towny yesterday but it is your right to solve as you please

You know mafia better than myself - explain why a bg would ever go to mzero instead of the claimed watcher or town power they bgd n1

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:28:06 PM
#82:


Why do you think sbell who voted joyrock eod1 is scum

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:29:16 PM
#83:


wallmasterz posted...
You know mafia better than myself - explain why a bg would ever go to mzero instead of the claimed watcher or town power they bgd n1

If lea didn't think plum was town not saving him was pretty obvious given he had tunneled her all day 1. Also its role madness so you being a one shot power doesn't matter much

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:29:29 PM
#84:


All day 2 excuse me

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:30:21 PM
#85:


But to be fair there may not be enough scummy players for Lea to be town

I am just thinking out loud

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Corrik7
05/26/23 8:30:44 PM
#86:


masterplum posted...
Wait, we dont need to mass with Lea dead to rights.
Ding ding fucking ding

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Corrik7
05/26/23 8:31:09 PM
#87:


That said, claims are good. It woulda been harder for scum to claim early. Let's go.

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:31:32 PM
#88:


SirChris posted...
Why do you think sbell who voted joyrock eod1 is scum

I dont think sbell is scum. I never developed a strong opinion of sbell in this game but of those groupings I should have him in the assuming town pile, yeah

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:33:36 PM
#89:


7:52. 8:00. 8:10. 8:31 (all times EST)

anyone care to guess what these numbers are

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Obellisk
05/26/23 8:34:21 PM
#90:


I'm not a fan of time stamp arguments.

get on eith it wallz

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Crescent-Moon
05/26/23 8:34:35 PM
#91:


wallmasterz posted...
7:52. 8:00. 8:10. 8:31 (all times EST)

anyone care to guess what these numbers are
Numbers on an awkward Bingo card

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:34:50 PM
#92:


11 players probably 3 scum my re-read gives me...

Chang
Sbell
Crescent
Cody
Ulti
Red

As either spewed town/looking very town from joyrock interactions and votes

Leaving a very broad no thought put into poe of lea/wall/plum/mzero/corrik

And more specifically

Lea/wall/mzero

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:36:17 PM
#93:


But Lea was seen visiting Wall n1 and if scum her item will be shown

So this was all a very long way of saying even without the track Lea is probably a good shout

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:36:54 PM
#94:


But the problem of course is that Lea visited two people I find scummy

So I don't get this

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Crescent-Moon
05/26/23 8:38:08 PM
#95:


My early read on MZero was a townlean and I feel like I barely paid attention to him past that as a result so maybe I should give him a lookover.

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:39:14 PM
#96:


When I said I was up for a joyrock lynch wall countered with saying he didn't mind lynching me and mzero was pretty insistent on staying on ulti who instead voted joyrock with me

That's possibly a bus I guess and then it's something like joyrock/red/ulti/Lea and the game is just bus happy.


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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:39:54 PM
#97:


wallmasterz posted...
7:52. 8:00. 8:10. 8:31 (all times EST)

anyone care to guess what these numbers are

Leas timestamps

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SirChris
05/26/23 8:40:13 PM
#98:


The reason I want a mass claim is just to get everything out in the open and work through things.

This can wait until ulti says stuff though

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wallmasterz
05/26/23 8:41:58 PM
#99:


Sbell I will explain my role after ulti checks in

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Obellisk
05/26/23 8:43:22 PM
#100:


wallmasterz posted...
Sbell I will explain my role after ulti checks in

Gracia senor.

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