Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 6: Show Me Your Moves!

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wallmasterz posted...

You think Chris is scum, then? (Im not saying its a ridiculous thought)

I'm not sure. It's like Chris is playing chaotic. If lea is scum, Chris has to be town. It's perplexing really. It's like he wants to control the lynches or derail them.

Obellisk posted...

I felt like cody was being too "please lead me" with you in topic 1 when you two interacted, mostly pages 8 and 9. You were asking him to provide thoughts on other people, he wasn't really saying a whole lot while still siding with your Lea trend (at that moment in time). Also the early interaction where he asked you to explain things and then made a post about being new so he will ask alot of questions. All felt very telegraphed.

After the lynch of Marth I started my focus on Cody, it led me to feel extremely betrayed by you at the same time.

Cody constantly kept making posts for why he doesn't feel confident in his Marth reads. The below is in response to you.
If Marth is town I think I'm seeing his posts as "Marth things" as Chris put it here, which is a reason why I'm not feeling stronger about Marth. His posting style might just ping my radar a bit regardless of his alignment.

But then Posts 140 - 144 of Topic 2. Where Cody is asking you if Marth saying he has you as town puts a target on your back and is trying to make you a night kill option for scum? That whole conversation stinks.

By page 7 or 8 of topic 2 you were essentially egging Cody on to vote for Marth whom had no votes anymore. And he's saying that he's neutral on you cause you think marth is better but he wasn't ready to say he was. However he never really felt Marth was scum in the first place based on how he spoke early.

Do you think it's me/cody/ulti atm

Corrik7 posted...

I'm not sure. It's like Chris is playing chaotic. If lea is scum, Chris has to be town. It's perplexing really. It's like he wants to control the lynches or derail them.

I'm just trying to solve you can do what you like lol

SirChris posted...

Ulti you get to live if you can tell everyone my role with reasoning. You have 5 minutes

UltimaterializerX posted...

Bulletproof or an untargetable variant. You literally dared someone to dayvig you with good luck on day one and Smash Bros has a million characters/items in it that are perfect for it.

SirChris posted...

Ah damn that's not what I wanted to hear from town ulti lol

SirChris posted...

I was rooting for ulti but there is a specific line of thought where I could buy him tring me but that wasn't it

SirChris posted...

You mentioned the post where I joked about fish earlier. I expected some follow up from this

UltimaterializerX posted...

Goldeen Goldeen, Goldeen Goldeen!

Ill be so disappointed if this all ends with you picked up a Pokeball and Goldeen popped out, town vanilla.

Chris literally guided Ulti to this. And then he ends up at you picked up a Pokeball and Goldeen popped out, town vanilla. Even though he's claiming he was informed that a Goldeen was given away. Neither BP, untargetable, or vanilla should have been a consideration with this info.

I honestly think it was a complete fluke that he brought up the fish post and after Chris basically handed him the answers to the test he guessed the most obvious Smash-related fish thing and still got it wrong

MZero posted...

Chris literally guided Ulti to this. And then he ends up at you picked up a Pokeball and Goldeen popped out, town vanilla. Even though he's claiming he was informed that a Goldeen was given away. Neither BP, untargetable, or vanilla should have been a consideration with this info.

I honestly think it was a complete fluke that he brought up the fish post and after Chris basically handed him the answers to the test he guessed the most obvious Smash-related fish thing and still got it wrong

Oh yeah I forgot about this

##vote: ulti

nevermind ulti fluked the right claim

SirChris posted...

Do you think it's me/cody/ulti atm

I just don't have a solid grasp on that yet.

Cody11533 posted...

Is there logic in holding on to the gun tonight? If there is a redirect in play doing so could try and bait it without scum stealing it, especially since if they have redirect it would be a likely limited item.

The counterpoint is that it would hold off on me being able to prove my role for another day. But if there is more for Town to gain by being safer with the gun then me clearing myself I could do it.

Honestly you need to make this decision yourself, otherwise scum will know what you're going to do. It's time to spread your wings young padawan... unless you're scum.

gun me

Sorry mzero it's really hard to iso on gamefaqs usually I hit a button and check such things

Yeah ulti is literally outed lmao he said I was vanilla

do not give mzero a dayvig shot.

REPEAT. DO. NOT. GIVE. MZERO. A. DAYVIG. SHOT.

thank you.

MZero posted...

Honestly you need to make this decision yourself, otherwise scum will know what you're going to do. It's time to spread your wings young padawan... unless you're scum.

gun me

I will ultimately make the decision privately, but I like to hear as much input as possible from others.

Obellisk posted...

do not give mzero a dayvig shot.

REPEAT. DO. NOT. GIVE. MZERO. A. DAYVIG. SHOT.

thank you.

Traumatized huh

Cody11533 posted...

I will ultimately make the decision privately, but I like to hear as much input as possible from others.

Cody if you give someone a gun unless that person shoots scum I am assuming you are scum. Redirection is very likely in role madness.

SirChris posted...

Sorry mzero it's really hard to iso on gamefaqs usually I hit a button and check such things

Yeah ulti is literally outed lmao he said I was vanilla

sometimes my hard head comes in handy

I did make an account on that site you linked but haven't joined a game yet. That Tales game filled up before I got there

MZero posted...

Chris literally guided Ulti to this. And then he ends up at you picked up a Pokeball and Goldeen popped out, town vanilla. Even though he's claiming he was informed that a Goldeen was given away. Neither BP, untargetable, or vanilla should have been a consideration with this info.

I honestly think it was a complete fluke that he brought up the fish post and after Chris basically handed him the answers to the test he guessed the most obvious Smash-related fish thing and still got it wrong

@corrik7 this is outing lol

SirChris posted...

@corrik7 this is outing lol

But chris, ulti used a probability argument

Obellisk posted...

do not give mzero a dayvig shot.

REPEAT. DO. NOT. GIVE. MZERO. A. DAYVIG. SHOT.

thank you.

<3

MZero posted...

Chris literally guided Ulti to this. And then he ends up at you picked up a Pokeball and Goldeen popped out, town vanilla. Even though he's claiming he was informed that a Goldeen was given away. Neither BP, untargetable, or vanilla should have been a consideration with this info.

I honestly think it was a complete fluke that he brought up the fish post and after Chris basically handed him the answers to the test he guessed the most obvious Smash-related fish thing and still got it wrong

So if I follow this right did Ulti basically cold read his way to guessing Chris' role?

I am cooled down and we're all good.

@masterplum ulti guessed I was vanilla when he says he tred me for being a fish vendor. Ulti is full of it. Burn the witch

Cody11533 posted...

So if I follow this right did Ulti basically cold read his way to guessing Chris' role?

No actually he guessed after I said it lol

On his third guess

I blanked I did this

SirChris posted...

I blanked I did this

well you blanked on waiting for Cody to say anything about the fish after you laid out your prompts too, so...

Obellisk posted...

well you blanked on waiting for Cody to say anything about the fish after you laid out your prompts too, so...

Ok then ulti is scum with me because he confirmed my ability so vote ulti and yell at me tomorrow???

Man I have pointed out the inconsistencies like that the whole day and then MZero makes a smoother formulation and gets the credit.

I'll take it.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Man I have pointed out the inconsistencies like that the whole day and then MZero makes a smoother formulation and gets the credit.

I'll take it.

Hey. Hey. I called you confirmed town earlier in my eyes

You got credit

I am imagining Peaf would not be told who he ended up giving the vigshot too
so I dread the outcome of a redirector snagging the gun away tonight

Plus for all we know scum got the first gun and plan to use it to fake having gotten the 2nd from Cody (in this case Cody is not a backup at all but lying scum)

htaeD posted...

I am imagining Peaf would not be told who he ended up giving the vigshot too
so I dread the outcome of a redirector snagging the gun away tonight

Plus for all we know scum got the first gun and plan to use it to fake having gotten the 2nd from Cody (in this case Cody is not a backup at all but lying scum)

I think he would have been told

Hey at least you didnt doubt yourself like I did, Ctes.

I miss my iso button tbh

Changes the game

I always use ctrl+f
But it often copies texts I dont want to have in the bar!

VOTALS UPDATE
[4] Ulti - (Chris), MZero, Wallz, (SBell), Ctes,( Chris),(Death), (Chris),Chris
[3] Lea - (Ulti), (Plum), (Corrik), (Chang),Plum,Corrik,Ulti
[2] Red - (Ulti), (Lea), (Chris), (Chris), (joyrock),(Chris), Joyrock, (Ulti),Cody, (Corrik),(Plum)
[1] Cresent - Lea
[0] Joyrock -( Ulti),(Chris)
[0] Cody- (sbell), (Chris),(chang),(Joyrock)
[0] Plum - (Ulti)
[0] Wallz - (Ulti)
[0] Corrik - (Chris)
With 15 players, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends on Wednesday at 7 PM EDT (approx. 5.5 hours from now)

I think these are correct, but could have made a mistake somewhere

Obellisk posted...

well you blanked on waiting for Cody to say anything about the fish after you laid out your prompts too, so...

I mentioned it earlier but I wasn't planning to say anything about the Goldeen unless Chris brought it up. I realized it was from him based on the breadcrumbs, and he did give me plenty of time to announce it myself.

I didn't know that when receiving a benign object overnight it's normal to share that promptly.

htaeD posted...

I always use ctrl+f
But it often copies texts I dont want to have in the bar!

Ctrl f is so bad lmao

Death you would be good in champs tbh

We need you over there next year

Cody11533 posted...

I mentioned it earlier but I wasn't planning to say anything about the Goldeen unless Chris brought it up. I realized it was from him based on the breadcrumbs, and he did give me plenty of time to announce it myself.

I didn't know that when receiving a benign object overnight it's normal to share that promptly.

I can believe this tbh. Vote ulti please

Ctrl f is terrible for looking up someone like "red"

Chris's sig line pinged more than Red's actual posts.

Cody11533 posted...

Ctrl f is terrible for looking up someone like "red"

Chris's sig line pinged more than Red's actual posts.

I actually search for sig phrases now

Like ulti iso is stone cold

Cody11533 posted...

I mentioned it earlier but I wasn't planning to say anything about the Goldeen unless Chris brought it up. I realized it was from him based on the breadcrumbs, and he did give me plenty of time to announce it myself.

I didn't know that when receiving a benign object overnight it's normal to share that promptly.

it's more that Chris explicitly said he gave it to you so he could judge your reactions and get a read on you and then he barely gave you the chance to mention it yourself.

as recipient there is no expectations on you at all.

##Unvote

##Vote: Ulti

The Ulti logic seems sound.

Ulti, why did you guess Vanilla for Chris?

Obellisk posted...

it's more that Chris explicitly said he gave it to you so he could judge your reactions and get a read on you and then he barely gave you the chance to mention it yourself.

as recipient there is no expectations on you at all.

Okay I don't feel like gaslighting you so I will say this was a lie for a reason that will become apparent when you flip me.

I am sure this will do wonders for your paranoia

Cody11533 posted...

Ctrl f is terrible for looking up someone like "red"

Chris's sig line pinged more than Red's actual posts.

Thats why I use 13n

But it does suck trying to look up anyone mentioning him

Cody11533 posted...

Is there logic in holding on to the gun tonight? If there is a redirect in play doing so could try and bait it without scum stealing it, especially since if they have redirect it would be a likely limited item.

The counterpoint is that it would hold off on me being able to prove my role for another day. But if there is more for Town to gain by being safer with the gun then me clearing myself I could do it.

The odds of giving it to town and then them shooting scum are very small. Chances are you will either give it to scum or the town will shoot town

copy a scanning ability instead

##vote: Chris

I dont think I have the equity(nor do you all ever have the will to ever do thr obvious and follow me) to push this through. But chris smells. The fish thing doesn't confirm anything. Hell, now that I've just sat and thought about it(and stared at the rules a bit), we know that scum uses items. Chris is sitting there throwing an item right in front of us. We dont know what it does, but throwing out a confirmable "useless" item provides chris an endless excuse to still be alive.

Then you get to the flailing, landing constantly on people i either think are town or know are town(me). Some of his "confirms" have come up a bit out of the blue as well. He doesn't have as much town equity as you would think. being active scum in front of you isn't out of his wheelhouse.

No way I believe that Lea bged someone that said they were a 1use power

Red you will do anything to not lynch Lea won't you

Red if Chris is scum I am pretty sure Ulti has to be one as well

Moreover, why would Chris choose a useless item like that night1?

I will grant you the thought did cross my mind, but I dont find it that likely.

Corrik7 posted...

No way I believe that Lea bged someone that said they were a 1use power

I mean its who I would BG

the goldeen didn't come in a pokeball, it came in a voltorb / electrode's mouth who will be detonated and exploded, killing everyone who posses one in true smash bros fashion

thank you for attending my conspiracy theory fireside chat

be back to engage with meatier subjects in a number of hours

If i was 3p I would have caught scum d1 tbh

Red expecting me to be able to read him with the table scraps provided might be towny for him.

htaeD posted...

Moreover, why would Chris choose a useless item like that night1?

We dont know exactly what it does. Or their pool of items even. But why chris would use "self confirm" feels pretty obvious.