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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:15:36 PM
#352:


Corrik7 posted...
You can't possibly know what scum has or doesn't have.
Corrik it is in the fucking rules.
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Obellisk
05/24/23 3:15:43 PM
#353:


UltimaterializerX posted...
The one Kirby wrote up is passive, happens by itself. I only got back the Goldeen message. Past that the only actual mechanic I know is it gets better the longer Im alive.

so you randomly saw a goldeen was given and nothing else.

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htaeD
05/24/23 3:15:45 PM
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But the OP told us so

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:16:30 PM
#355:


I have been clearing people all day who say the scum have roles lol

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:16:51 PM
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Which if accurate would bring me to ctes/sbell/ulti all town which might be fun

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 3:16:54 PM
#357:


Corrik7 posted...
4th time wall has claimed scum pairs.

Oops. I forgot town never tries to identify potential scum pairings the same way scum never argues probability.

#ScumSlip

Will it make you feel better if entire PoEs are listed or is everything I do just going to be questionable. You love to go on and on about not withholding info from town yet you barely say anything, solving the game in your head then bitching me out for not being on your level. Ive played four games here, this is my fifth. Ok brother

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MZero
05/24/23 3:17:04 PM
#358:


Leafeon13N posted...
Who is buying what here?

And again, i need to know what you think this means ulti was doing or knew from his perspective.

Because i read this a bit as "ulti was bullshitting a bit" but where do you think the scumplay was role wise in particular.

I don't think Ulti actually knew anything

Like sure, he guessed there was a Goldeen involved, but he also guessed a bunch of other stuff that was wrong. Hell he guessed Chris' flavor had something to do with Goldeen even though we chose our flavors, which makes it seem more like a joke than anything. Chris revealed everything else.

I'm pretty sure it's all a fluke that Ulti just decided to roll with

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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:17:12 PM
#360:


Rather than traditional roles, SCUM has a pool of items to use as night actions. Each scum may use one item per night. These items all have limited uses, though some items can be used more than once.
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SirChris
05/24/23 3:18:24 PM
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Anyway I caught mzero only by poe in that game so maybe I should be more wary of mzero if I know I am kind of broken in my solving

Knowing joyrocks alignment probably does a lot for the game tbh

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htaeD
05/24/23 3:18:29 PM
#363:


I am losing track of who is on whose side in this argument.

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Corrik7
05/24/23 3:20:28 PM
#366:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Nope. My message said a Goldeen was given, and nothing else.

Corrik, dude:

SUPER SMASH BROS. MAFIA
- Rather than traditional roles, SCUM has a pool of items to use as night actions. Each scum may use one item per night. These items all have limited uses, though some items can be used more than once.
What. Then the scum team is weak af

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 3:20:39 PM
#367:


SirChris posted...
Anyway I caught mzero only by poe in that game so maybe I should be more wary of mzero if I know I am kind of broken in my solving

Knowing joyrocks alignment probably does a lot for the game tbh

I am neutral on joyrock because weve been giving absolutely nothing to parse, but I disagree - if joyrock is town it tells us way less than if joyrock is scum.

At this point wouldnt ultis flip tell us a hell of a lot more since it has sucked all the oxygen out of d2?

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:20:45 PM
#368:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Selfish reasons aside, lets lynch an active weird guy over an afk should have been nipped in the bud a decade ago.

Sbpc kind of sucks but joyrock has inspired no confidence.

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:22:02 PM
#369:


wallmasterz posted...
I am neutral on joyrock because weve been giving absolutely nothing to parse, but I disagree - if joyrock is town it tells us way less than if joyrock is scum.

At this point wouldnt ultis flip tell us a hell of a lot more since it has sucked all the oxygen out of d2?

Knowing eod was v/v is useful for wagonomics

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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:22:03 PM
#370:


MZero posted...


I'm pretty sure it's all a fluke that Ulti just decided to roll with
K glad i asked because now I'm extra confused why you think hes scum.

Thinking he had extra information is one thing(which turns logical sense to "cody would probably be scum first") but this is even less than I was expecting.

Again reiterating we have chris throwing items right in front of us. The rule is very clear. Scum uses items. Not town. The next rule even differentiates that town has actions and abilities.
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htaeD
05/24/23 3:22:53 PM
#371:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Selfish reasons aside, lets lynch an active weird guy over an afk should have been nipped in the bud a decade ago.


I mean in Tekken Mafia it would have resulted in about the same outcome (and werent some inactives town anyway?)
But I admit Joyrock is being particularly absent.

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:23:11 PM
#372:


Leafeon13N posted...
K glad i asked because now I'm extra confused why you think hes scum.

Thinking he had extra information is one thing(which turns logical sense to "cody would probably be scum first") but this is even less than I was expecting.

Again reiterating we have chris throwing items right in front of us. The rule is very clear. Scum uses items. Not town. The next rule even differentiates that town has actions and abilities.

Er

I am not throwing items

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Corrik7
05/24/23 3:23:49 PM
#373:


Knowing leas scum since it townclears someone acting erratically in chris and it townclears plum and it town clears wall seems more beneficial.

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:23:59 PM
#374:


My ability has a normal priority and it is gifting goldeens

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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:24:31 PM
#375:


SirChris posted...
My ability has a normal priority and it is gifting goldeens
Thats an item.
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Corrik7
05/24/23 3:25:12 PM
#376:


Didn't wall say he was a "high priority 1 use" power?

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changmas
05/24/23 3:25:14 PM
#377:


My role uses an item as well that's why i was insistent on asking cody about what item gave him his powers

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:25:30 PM
#378:


Leafeon13N posted...
Thats an item.
It is not. It's an ability. The goldeens aren't tangible or usable


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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:25:57 PM
#379:


SirChris posted...
It is not. It's an ability. The goldeens aren't tangible or usable
That isn't what i meant and you know that.
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MZero
05/24/23 3:26:09 PM
#380:


Leafeon13N posted...
K glad i asked because now I'm extra confused why you think hes scum.

Thinking he had extra information is one thing(which turns logical sense to "cody would probably be scum first") but this is even less than I was expecting.

Again reiterating we have chris throwing items right in front of us. The rule is very clear. Scum uses items. Not town. The next rule even differentiates that town has actions and abilities.

I think he's scum for a lot of reasons which I have outlined throughout the day, and I also think he's lying about his role. Lynch all liars etc.

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:26:23 PM
#381:


Leafeon13N posted...
That isn't what i meant and you know that.

You're the one who is saying I am scum for using an item lol

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:27:09 PM
#382:


Red do you remember what got me in trouble in fire emblem awakening

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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:27:16 PM
#383:


MZero posted...
I think he's scum for a lot of reasons which I have outlined throughout the day, and I also think he's lying about his role. Lynch all liars etc.
Lying is a tool and we are well beyond lynch all liars. Lynch scum.
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wallmasterz
05/24/23 3:27:32 PM
#384:


I also think if ulti had gotten the goldeen message n1 he wouldnt have waited until he was essentially prompted by Chris to mention it. He wouldve at least hinted sooner imo. Like, we are over here questioning Cody for not immediately mentioning the situation, but giving ulti a pass

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MZero
05/24/23 3:27:42 PM
#385:


And to reiterated Ulti has pulled this "I'm going AFK from now on cause you guys just lynch active players" as scum in Tekken and Elden Ring

Good night

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Corrik7
05/24/23 3:28:08 PM
#386:


I think it's safe to say if scum doesn't have roles that they will say they have roles to blend in with town. So this talk is pretty stupid.

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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:28:10 PM
#387:


SirChris posted...
You're the one who is saying I am scum for using an item lol
Well. Yes. That is how this works.
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MZero
05/24/23 3:28:16 PM
#388:


Leafeon13N posted...
Lying is a tool and we are well beyond lynch all liars. Lynch scum.

MZero posted...
think he's scum for a lot of reasons which I have outlined throughout the day


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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:28:57 PM
#389:


SirChris posted...
Red do you remember what got me in trouble in fire emblem awakening
Probably in the back of my mind somewhere off the top of my head no.
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wallmasterz
05/24/23 3:29:11 PM
#390:


Corrik7 posted...
Didn't wall say he was a "high priority 1 use" power?

Yes. And while Im not opposed to a Chris lynch, I will say the flavor for my ability involves something that is an item in the Super Mario games, and in smash bros as well.

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htaeD
05/24/23 3:29:42 PM
#391:


And I was the one saying Beetles were items so here we are.

Corrik7 posted...
Didn't wall say he was a "high priority 1 use" power?

Priority is also clearly denoted with a hierarchy in the OP

- Most actions will have a priority associated with them. These priorities can be High, Normal, or Low. This information simply helps with generally understanding how your actions would be resolved relative to other actions. The priority tiers are described as such:

[Priority: High]
This action will be among one of the first ones to occur during the night phase.

[Priority: Normal]
This action will occur between any high- and low-priority actions during the night phase.

[Priority: Low]
This action will be among one of the last ones to occur during the night phase.

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:29:44 PM
#392:


Leafeon13N posted...
Probably in the back of my mind somewhere off the top of my head no.

I played fast and loose with my role claim in order to trick scum

My goldeens are not useless. Please solve elsewhere.

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Leafeon13N
05/24/23 3:30:03 PM
#393:


Mzero that is a long way off from "how can you read this exchange and think ulti isn't scum ".
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Corrik7
05/24/23 3:30:06 PM
#394:


wallmasterz posted...
Yes. And while Im not opposed to a Chris lynch, I will say the flavor for my ability involves something that is an item in the Super Mario games, and in smash bros as well.
So why would Lea BG that person. It makes no damn sense.

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ctesjbuvf
05/24/23 3:30:28 PM
#395:


Leafeon13N posted...
Okay you didn't give me what exactly mzero is saying and you aren't mzero, ctes. Also the same question would end up applying to you because it doesn't mesn what you think it means i think.

I am not entirely sure what you are asking. But I don't see it as town Ulti was just saying a bunch of untrue s***. It looks like he initially slipped he knew about the fish stuff, didn't plan to and eventually spent a day making something that fit his initial slip. Only after doing that none of the thoughts in between makes any sense. Ulti responded to me several times he thought Chris was scum because probability, he also said the beetle randomly went out to someone and he didn't know what it did. It wasn't until much later he added that it came back with some result.

I don't see the town equity at all in not just staying that sooner. I believe town Ulti would do that. It would serve no good purpose whatsoever not doing that and the beat explanation is that this was kinda made up as he went.

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 3:30:51 PM
#396:


Corrik7 posted...
So why would Lea BG that person. It makes no damn sense.

I am the only person that claimed a power by the end of d1.

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SirChris
05/24/23 3:31:23 PM
#397:


Also half the reason why I want to kill joyrock is I think we are all power in some way

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htaeD
05/24/23 3:31:28 PM
#398:


Corrik7 posted...

So why would Lea BG that person. It makes no damn sense.


Why would that matter? Not like Lea could possibly know that

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htaeD
05/24/23 3:32:00 PM
#399:


SirChris posted...
Also half the reason why I want to kill joyrock is I think we are all power in some way


Eh I dunno about that part. I feel scum usually gets a warning about games with no nillas in them.

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 3:32:01 PM
#400:


SirChris posted...
It is not. It's an ability. The goldeens aren't tangible or usable

SirChris posted...
My goldeens are not useless. Please solve elsewhere.

Im confused

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