Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 6: Show Me Your Moves!

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 11:23:16 AM
#152:


Thats fair, I guess scum could intentionally not kill hypothetical town Lea in hopes of setting up a mislynch

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changmas
05/24/23 11:23:30 AM
#154:


changmas posted...
given that we have now at least 3 different watcher / tracker / clairvoyant type claims i'm thinking ninja is actually pretty likely for the scum team though

whether it can be combined with a roleblock i'm not sure, but with that much vision at night in the town it seems inevitable that a ninja exists

i am incorrect though there's zero reason to combine a ninja action and a roleblock action, you'd much rather hide the kill if you have the option

so it would have to be a built in "ninja roleblock" action via an item

that's substantially less likely than i was thinking previously.

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htaeD
05/24/23 11:26:14 AM
#155:


And again
Flavormeta sure
BUT A BEETLE IS AN ITEM

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wallmasterz
05/24/23 11:30:07 AM
#156:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I always ask to be shot. Especially as town power. Its a Jedi mind trick to stay alive.

I do believe that claiming that you will solve the game if left alive is a Jedi mind trick to stay alive, just not as town

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changmas
05/24/23 11:31:46 AM
#157:


im 100% confident in town ulti now, it is so on-brand for him to have absolutely no idea what his role does and to think it actually gave beetles out to other people when it sounds like it doesn't at all lmao

it sounds like it just like, reports random shit back to him that isn't going to be useful for like 5 days

the power level on that seems pretty low to me

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:35:08 AM
#159:


Hi ulti I know how clairvoyant works

What did you receive info wise.

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:43:40 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I said this already. The fish thing with you and Cody is the truth. I just dont know alignments with it yet because its too early in the game. If more beetles are flying around I can learn better stuff. Its best here to let scum shoot me at night and worry about it themselves really.

Theres a reason I dont think youre scum and havent all day. A mafia role that just hands out Goldeen is useless.
I am asking for your scan not a summation

You can say 'Chris is innocent' as cop so what did the clairvoyant message get back

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:51:22 AM
#163:


Fuck that is what clairvoyant would say

Ulti did you really do a giant thing

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:53:39 AM
#164:


If ulti is town I am so lost because red popping in to just call ulti town does in fact make no sense for scum red lmao

What am I looking at here

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:55:42 AM
#166:


Red does not usually townside at all as scum. If you are town I really doubt he is

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changmas
05/24/23 11:57:09 AM
#169:


well the low hanging fruit here is always joyrock

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:57:34 AM
#170:


It means help town

So red for example saying Marth is town day 1 and you are town day 2. That's giving town correct info

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MZero
05/24/23 11:59:09 AM
#171:


I refuse to live in a world where Ulti gets to gloat about winning as scum with the worst fake claim of all time

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SirChris
05/24/23 11:59:29 AM
#172:


Plum claiming info randomly and ulti being town make me feel better about plum again as with my alignment chart earlier

Hm

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:00:19 PM
#174:


MZero posted...
I refuse to live in a world where Ulti gets to gloat about winning as scum with the worst fake claim of all time

Hi mzero

I don't think he brings up the fish when asked unless he knew.

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htaeD
05/24/23 12:00:35 PM
#175:


Chris
So you are saying Ulti saw what only you should have seen?

I need to think on this

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:00:50 PM
#176:


Was eying wallz actually

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htaeD
05/24/23 12:01:10 PM
#177:


And Ulti if you are town I still in part blame you for being needlessly confusing

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:01:39 PM
#178:


htaeD posted...
Chris
So you are saying Ulti saw what only you should have seen?

I need to think on this

##Unvote
He said the correct amount of info at least

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htaeD
05/24/23 12:01:56 PM
#179:


And honestly I am not sure Lea cant be a BG either...

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MZero
05/24/23 12:02:55 PM
#181:


SirChris posted...
Hi mzero

I don't think he brings up the fish when asked unless he knew.

There are a lot of possibilities here

for instance Cody being scum

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:03:31 PM
#182:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Right, and both are true. So Red doesnt townside as scum, but if Im town he cant be because he gave town correct info? <_<

I am confused.
If you are town he ia unlikely to be scum because scum red wouldn't help town

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:04:21 PM
#184:


MZero posted...
There are a lot of possibilities here

for instance Cody being scum

Yeah if ulti had said Chris gave the golddeen to Cody I kill ulti. But he didn't.

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htaeD
05/24/23 12:04:46 PM
#185:


SirChris posted...

He said the correct amount of info at least

Okay and its not something he could accidentally guess?

Either way
Ulti what was the whole point of your probability reasoning then?
What IS your reason for trusting Chris

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htaeD
05/24/23 12:06:04 PM
#187:


Because maybe scum could very well get the same kind of message when they use items

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MZero
05/24/23 12:06:11 PM
#188:


Is clairvoyant ever a scum role?

Ulti said a bunch of times that his role shows the future, which this is not

also it doesn't make any sense with beetles

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changmas
05/24/23 12:06:17 PM
#189:


btw to retread something from earlier - cody - if town should absolutely pick gunsmith and give the gun to a trusted town player (which he does not tell us who beforehand)

i do not think he should pick tracker as chris suggested earlier

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:06:54 PM
#190:


htaeD posted...
Okay and its not something he could accidentally guess?

Either way
Ulti what was the whole point of your probability reasoning then?
What IS your reason for trusting Chris

It's possible but him quoting the fish thing turned from no sense to perfect sense with this and why does scum ulti go through 4 fake claims when he could have claimed this from the start and looked good

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:07:56 PM
#192:


Scum clairvoyent... hm. Let me look

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htaeD
05/24/23 12:08:52 PM
#193:


First time for everything

We did have a scumrole recently that stole 'results'

Though in Ulti's case it sounds like you keep your results

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:10:50 PM
#196:


Yeah it would be highly unusual for scum to have one

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changmas
05/24/23 12:11:07 PM
#197:


i mean ulti's role is self resolving right?

if we force him to report his results first thing every new day

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MZero
05/24/23 12:12:04 PM
#198:


UltimaterializerX posted...
A Goldeen was given. Thats my info. Chris mentioned fish. 2 + 2 isnt hard. Goldeen is iconic in Smash Bros as being the most useless of all Pokemon when it pops out of a ball.

aka, Goldeen is useless garbage and mafia having a role that hands out useless garbage at night doesnt work. Chris has to be town by pure common sense.

Codys alignment is an unknown but backup self resolves.

So why did you originally guess that Chris was BP or untargetable

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SirChris
05/24/23 12:12:24 PM
#199:


Ok let me do a thing where we re read the game flipping ulti town and see if it makes sense. No need to say lock clear or anything

Man maybe I do suck as town now smh

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