Board 8 > Super Smash Bros. Mafia - Topic 6: Show Me Your Moves!

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@masterplum why did you vote with Lea earlier if you had a scan

UltimaterializerX posted...

Wow its EXACTLY what I claimed. Again.

Where are my SpongeBob memes.

no where does this mention night actions

or beetles

MZero posted...

no where does this mention night actions

or beetles

I will say my role description is completely unhinged

But can you help me pre flip ulti town and see if it makes sense? Its a good exercise

Ulti says he was told "a Goldeen was given"

that doesn't really match up with what Lea posted. Something like "there's a role that gives out Goldeens" seems more in line. That doesn't mean much though because Kirby could have made it different

Ulti I have a question for you if you have a moment. I know you pretty well right

i mean it sounds as though each night he will get slightly more relevant and useful information until he's getting straight up real good shit at the end

UltimaterializerX posted...

He really did give a good luck in response to dayvig.

yes but before that you included his fish line as a reasoning for thinking he was town, which makes some sense if you assumed he was the source of the given Goldeen you were informed about. But later, you said you thought he was BP or untargetable. This evolution of thought doesn't make much sense

SirChris posted...

I will say my role description is completely unhinged

But can you help me pre flip ulti town and see if it makes sense? Its a good exercise

I could but it's 1 am so I can't go too in depth

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im here for 10 minutes. Lunch almost done.

Im at the place SBell thinks I made up in my head lmao

Okay well

Do you think it's possible some people who said you were town knew you were town because they are scum and were positioning for after you flipped?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Oh without a doubt. Its why I asked about Red.

Thinking over plum atm

Because scum would totally use a watcher item on claimed power to try to out protection imo

@changmas who do you think has been scummy today

Initial thought is that SBell looks bad if Ulti is town

He jumped on early but then hopped off and started shading Chris pretty heavily. Could have been trying to set something up to parlay a Ulti town flip into a Chris mislynch.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Watcher is almost impossible to fake on night 1. He would have to be mafia with it being a real ability on the list.

Thats just what I said wtf

MZero posted...

Initial thought is that SBell looks bad if Ulti is town

He jumped on early but then hopped off and started shading Chris pretty heavily. Could have been trying to set something up to parlay a Ulti town flip into a Chris mislynch.

Hmm. That's an interesting point. What type of town sbell doesn't try to kill this ulti all day

Thinking joyrock might be a good shout given who was on him eod hm

SirChris posted...

@masterplum why did you vote with Lea earlier if you had a scan

I voted with corrik. I like corrik

Then I saw who else was on that lynch and noped off

masterplum posted...

I voted with corrik. I like corrik

Then I saw who else was on that lynch and noped off

Lmao ok sure that sounds right actually

Hm

Plum I am a bit confused right now. How high is your Lea %

SirChris posted...

@masterplum why did you vote with Lea earlier if you had a scan

When I asked him this he said he didnt think he could get Lea lynched
Though I didnt focus on the 'Lea also voted Red' aspect of it

i think there's likely one scum in the plum / lea duo

i think there's definitely at least one scum between joyrock and crescent who is laying low

regardless of how the lea / plum split goes it's worth looking at corrik who i'd have to go back to check but my memory suggests he has been a big influence in looking at both of them and egging them on to an extent so he may have been the invisible hand guiding that the way he wants

wallz is pushing hardest on ulti scum so that's a good person to look into as well, especially considering his claim was a bit calculated in terms of how much info he gave to get people off of his case on day 1 and i could see him having gotten help with what to say there to do it correctly

not sure what to make of ctes and death. ctes had a very strong day 1 but i haven't been too impressed on day 2 so he's dropping down my town list. death i always think is scum so i need somebody else to tell me what to think there or when we're allowed to lynch him hehe

let cody resolve himself with backup

if someone else gets a fish tonight though (and hopefully it's me :) i am willing to consider you town until further notice. red and ulti i still believe are town and want to not lynch either today. tiny bit concerned about mzero being stubborn on ulti but that is likely NAI

Why would scumplum not just let Ulti die is my question

changmas posted...

i think there's likely one scum in the plum / lea duo

i think there's definitely at least one scum between joyrock and crescent who is laying low

regardless of how the lea / plum split goes it's worth looking at corrik who i'd have to go back to check but my memory suggests he has been a big influence in looking at both of them and egging them on to an extent so he may have been the invisible hand guiding that the way he wants

wallz is pushing hardest on ulti scum so that's a good person to look into as well, especially considering his claim was a bit calculated in terms of how much info he gave to get people off of his case on day 1 and i could see him having gotten help with what to say there to do it correctly

not sure what to make of ctes and death. ctes had a very strong day 1 but i haven't been too impressed on day 2 so he's dropping down my town list. death i always think is scum so i need somebody else to tell me what to think there or when we're allowed to lynch him hehe

let cody resolve himself with backup

if someone else gets a fish tonight though (and hopefully it's me :) i am willing to consider you town until further notice. red and ulti i still believe are town and want to not lynch either today. tiny bit concerned about mzero being stubborn on ulti but that is likely NAI

I like this entire post as it matches almost everything I have thought recently.

oh yeah i forgot sbell idk he's like stubborn and obstinate and stuck on like one or two things all game which tracks with his town play for me although apparently we haven't seen it past day 1 in like over a year

##vote: corrik

actuallyI think you've just been wrong all game now. Sup

I still dont know how to square this with Ulti sounding like he did in Tekken Mafia
But I suppose clairvoyance is hard to fake with items

At the very least I dont think I am being bamboozled by the whole scumteam at this point because geez does it not look like a coherent plan with Ulti in the middle.

SirChris posted...

Hmm. That's an interesting point. What type of town sbell doesn't try to kill this ulti all day

the kind that was told to stop focusing on ulti.

the kind that reread day 1, decided you were scum with cody in a reread before the day 2 began and then watched you apologize to me and then gun for ulti.

Guess now I am the paranoid one.
How ironic.

Obellisk posted...

the kind that was told to stop focusing on ulti.

the kind that reread day 1, decided you were scum with cody in a reread before the day 2 began and then watched you apologize to me and then gun for ulti.

Man, now I want you to be town because you listened.

Actually wait show your work sbell on cody/me being scum together

masterplum posted...

Also it would mean that either

1. Scum ignored wallz power claim (Extremely unlikely)
2. Scum Has a ninja RB (unlikely)
3. Wallz is scum (Don't think this is the case currently)

Yeah probably not scum plum here tbh

##vote: joyrock

I can't really hate on if corrik has been wrong tbh I have been wrong a lot too so lets solve the counterwagon from day 1

anyways i gotta do some work now but i'll be back a couple hours before deadline

UltimaterializerX posted...

I said this ALL DAY

This is such a huge lie and you don't get to act this douchy way as either alignment. You have said all sorts of BS today that didn't track. Anyone can do a quick ISO and see that. You've switched claims and reasons you thought Chris was town countless times. If you're actually somehow magically town, what you have accomplished today is wasting like 24 hours not telling the truth instead of just clearing things up right away. And you would not even only have derailed, you would have also thrown insults around for thinking you could possible be scum with this role that you did not state the information about for a darn long time.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Death/ctes/Wallz all refusing to consider Im telling the truth is asinine btw, its impossible to think all 3 are town.

ctes is who sticks out. Hes been in my spot before and should know better than this after that whole insane psychic bulls***tery that got him killed. Now he magically doesnt consider all angles? Bulls***.

Like this is either scum further BS or it's some of the most low-handed utter s*** I have seen. I have repeatedly asked if people could explain to me how a specific point was ever possible as town, you have repeatedly refused to coorporate, ingored it or answered in lies and confusion then whined about how people doesn't believe you when you keep saying different things. Mentioning a role like insane psychic that everyone agreed should be banned has nothing to do with this. It's not me not considering all angles, it's you not giving people anything to work with. Instead of stating things clearly before being asked a billion times, you went on to repeat how terrible a mislynch it would be when quite frankly, it would be among the most understandable mislynches ever that you basically set up entirely on your own. So if you are actually town, take your insults about people's play the f*** away or aim them towards yourself instead, because refusing to give the (presumably) accurate information for 24 hours is one thing, but on top of that going on to insult people for suspecting you while you play that way is trash tier.

I'm sorry, but not that much, if anything comes off as too mean in the above, but having said essentially this several times (copied from one of them) "Town Ulti never sees that post, understands what it was a hint to and town clears Chris for it unless he had information that someone received a fish." and followed up essentially this several times (copied from the same one) "And I would love for anything to tell me how I could be wrong about that part", and not having gotten any answer for 24 hours and then get insulted under a lie that the answer was there all along has quite frankly made me pissed.

Now hopefully while I cool down as I drive home, I can consider things with this on the table.

ctesjbuvf posted...

This is such a huge lie and you don't get to act this douchy way as either alignment. You have said all sorts of BS today that didn't track. Anyone can do a quick ISO and see that. You've switched claims and reasons you thought Chris was town countless times. If you're actually somehow magically town, what you have accomplished today is wasting like 24 hours not telling the truth instead of just clearing things up right away. And you would not even only have derailed, you would have also thrown insults around for thinking you could possible be scum with this role that you did not state the information about for a darn long time.

Like this is either scum further BS or it's some of the most low-handed utter s*** I have seen. I have repeatedly asked if people could explain to me how a specific point was ever possible as town, you have repeatedly refused to coorporate, ingored it or answered in lies and confusion then whined about how people doesn't believe you when you keep saying different things. Mentioning a role like insane psychic that everyone agreed should be banned has nothing to do with this. It's not me not considering all angles, it's you not giving people anything to work with. Instead of stating things clearly before being asked a billion times, you went on to repeat how terrible a mislynch it would be when quite frankly, it would be among the most understandable mislynches ever that you basically set up entirely on your own. So if you are actually town, take your insults about people's play the f*** away or aim them towards yourself instead, because refusing to give the (presumably) accurate information for 24 hours is one thing, but on top of that going on to insult people for suspecting you while you play that way is trash tier.

I'm sorry, but not that much, if anything comes off as too mean in the above, but having said essentially this several times (copied from one of them) "Town Ulti never sees that post, understands what it was a hint to and town clears Chris for it unless he had information that someone received a fish." and followed up essentially this several times (copied from the same one) "And I would love for anything to tell me how I could be wrong about that part", and not having gotten any answer for 24 hours and then get insulted under a lie that the answer was there all along has quite frankly made me pissed.

Now hopefully while I cool down as I drive home, I can consider things with this on the table.

Ctes you are heard here tbh. I dont like how people pretty much ignored valid questions on ulti regardless of his alignment.

Catching up on some earlier posts.

My role does allow me to reuse a spent 1 shot action. So whether or not Peaf did give someone a gun, I could do so myself by inheriting his role.

I am open to more input on how people think I should use Backup tonight. I still favor using Peaf's power, but I think considering using Tracker is worth it for the aforementioned reason Chris and Death brought up that I could hand scum a gun. Regardless, I sure as hell am not even hinting at who I'd give a gun to.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80453378/973674861

Regarding this, Chris brought it up as part of his logic in giving me a Goldeen which I cited, but I did come to that conclusion myself during the night after Marth flipped Town. I hadn't hinted at power Day 1, so I thought that I made way more sense being left alive as a mislynch candidate.

ctes I feel you man

I still want an explanation for how Ulti got to Chris being BP/Untargetable if his town read stemmed from something that happened last night

I would be surprised if scum didn't have a redirection item tbh. Like actually surprised

Cody11533 posted...

I am open to more input on how people think I should use Backup tonight.

give me the gun but don't tell anyone :>

SirChris posted...

I would be surprised if scum didn't have a redirection item tbh. Like actually surprised

If scum did have one, would it work by them targeting me and allowing them to choose who receives the gun?

Don't give anyone the gun tbh.

SirChris posted...

Actually wait show your work sbell on cody/me being scum together

I felt like cody was being too "please lead me" with you in topic 1 when you two interacted, mostly pages 8 and 9. You were asking him to provide thoughts on other people, he wasn't really saying a whole lot while still siding with your Lea trend (at that moment in time). Also the early interaction where he asked you to explain things and then made a post about being new so he will ask alot of questions. All felt very telegraphed.

After the lynch of Marth I started my focus on Cody, it led me to feel extremely betrayed by you at the same time.

Cody constantly kept making posts for why he doesn't feel confident in his Marth reads. The below is in response to you.
If Marth is town I think I'm seeing his posts as "Marth things" as Chris put it here, which is a reason why I'm not feeling stronger about Marth. His posting style might just ping my radar a bit regardless of his alignment.

But then Posts 140 - 144 of Topic 2. Where Cody is asking you if Marth saying he has you as town puts a target on your back and is trying to make you a night kill option for scum? That whole conversation stinks.

By page 7 or 8 of topic 2 you were essentially egging Cody on to vote for Marth whom had no votes anymore. And he's saying that he's neutral on you cause you think marth is better but he wasn't ready to say he was. However he never really felt Marth was scum in the first place based on how he spoke early.

Chris just scattershotting his vote trying to do anything he can to try and derail a lynch like he did day 1.

Corrik7 posted...

Chris just scattershotting his vote trying to do anything he can to try and derail a lynch like he did day 1.

You think Chris is scum, then? (Im not saying its a ridiculous thought)

masterplum posted...

Don't give anyone the gun tbh.

Is there logic in holding on to the gun tonight? If there is a redirect in play doing so could try and bait it without scum stealing it, especially since if they have redirect it would be a likely limited item.

The counterpoint is that it would hold off on me being able to prove my role for another day. But if there is more for Town to gain by being safer with the gun then me clearing myself I could do it.