Board 8 > Rank the Tracks 112: Grimes - Art Angels (+ Goo Goo Dolls results)

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FoolFantastic
04/23/23 10:12:53 AM
#1:


jcgamer107's week:
Kero Kero Bonito - Bonito Generation
vs.
Tally Hall - Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum
vs.
Elliott Smith - From a Basement on the Hill

Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_2
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_3

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points. For albums with greater than 15 tracks, everything ranked below #15 will be given 0 points and the scale for the top 15 will be the same as a 15-track album. For albums with more than 20 tracks, you only have to list your top 15 (with 16-20, I still like having the average rank listed)
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, April 30 at 4:00 PM Central Time; the future week poll will close earlier, when I am putting up the next topic
7. You can sign up to be added to the user cycle (a new user will be added to the end of the current cycle as long as there are four weeks remaining) - the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).
7c. I have added a tiered vote structure - the least popular album will be removed and its backup votes distributed to the other two entrants.
8. Starting with the next cycle, every four weeks will be a competitive week where those listed choose a single album to face off against others.
9. Skits and tracks under 40 seconds will be excluded from the rankings unless argued otherwise

Grimes - Art Angels track list:
1. laughing and not being normal
2. California
3. SCREAM
4. Flesh without Blood
5. Belly of the Beat
6. Kill V. Maim
7. Artangels
8. Easily
9. Pin
10. Realiti
11. World Princess part II
12. Venus Fly
13. Life in the Vivid Dream
14. Butterfly

Current cycle:
4/30: neonreaper (Silversun Pickups - Carnavas)
5/7: Great_Paul (Sabaton - The War to End All Ways)
5/14: jcgamer107
5/21: Giggsalot/MetalmindStats/rwlh
5/28: ChichiriMuyo
6/4: BlueCrystalTear
6/11: rwlh
6/18: NFUN
6/25: HBJDubs/firefdr/NFUN
7/2: StifledSilence
7/9: MaxGalactica

Future cycle:
7/16: MetalmindStats
7/23: HBJDubs
7/30: Raetsel_Lapin
8/6: competitive week
8/13: Steiner
8/20: Snake5555555555
8/27: Jesse_Custer
9/3: competitive week
9/10: ZaziGuado
9/17: firefdr
9/24: Johnbobb
10/1: competitive week
10/8: VeryInsane
10/15: FoolFantastic
10/22: Seanchan
10/29: competitive week
11/5: Giggsalot
11/12: RyoCaliente
11/19: darkx
11/26: competitive week

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FoolFantastic
04/23/23 10:16:11 AM
#2:


Kero Kero Bonito - Bonito Generation > Elliott Smith - From a Basement on the Hill > Tally Hall - Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum

A weird case where I'm voting an album I haven't heard over an album I know and really like because I've been meaning to check the first one out.

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jcgamer107
04/23/23 10:31:41 AM
#3:


Kero Kero Bonito: an incredibly fun blend of pop, electronic and rock
Tally Hall: the prequel to Hawaii: Part ii - more palatable; friendly rock
Elliott Smith: this was the last album the guitarist singer-songwriter was working on before he died

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FoolFantastic
04/23/23 10:59:59 AM
#4:


This was one of my most anticipated albums after "Oblivion" from her previous album Visions ended up being an early contender (and ultimate winner) for my favorite song of the 2010s. There was a period of nervousness, though, as Grimes scrapped an entire album between the two. Luckily, what we ended up with is possibly the greatest electronic pop album ever recorded with so much range, from bangers like "Kill V. Maim" and "Venus Fly" to more relaxing tracks like "Realiti". It's a shame my favorite song here is what led her to meet Elon Musk (...through a Rococo Basilisk joke she made in the video that he happened to also tweet years later and then Googled if anyone else had done the same...) - at the time, this read as a personal, introspective work from one of the most promising new names in music.

my ranking:
Flesh without Blood
Realiti (...though I do prefer the demo version)
Kill V. Maim
Venus Fly
World Princess part II
California
SCREAM
Pin
Artangels
Easily
Butterfly
Belly of the Beat
laughing and not being normal
Life in the Vivid Dream

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Raetsel_Lapin
04/23/23 1:34:28 PM
#5:


1: Flesh Without Blood
2: Pin
3: Life in the Vivid Dream
4: Kill V. Maim
5: Realiti
6: California
7: Belly of the Beat
8: Easily
9: World Princess part II
10: Butterfly
11: Artangels
12: Venus Fly
13: SCREAM
14: laughing and not being normal

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FoolFantastic
04/24/23 3:13:01 PM
#6:


bump

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colliding
04/24/23 6:05:18 PM
#7:


can't enjoy grimes's music anymore

shame

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ZaziGuado
04/25/23 9:34:14 PM
#8:


Unfortunate week for me for this album to be hitting since I'll be busy for most of it. Gonna have to do this from memory on my listen from Monday. Luckily I've listened to it quite a few times before.

Kill V. Maim
Flesh without Blood
California
Artangels
Realiti
Belly of the Beat
Easily
Pin
World Princess part II
Venus Fly
Butterfly
Life in the Vivid Dream
laughing and not being normal
SCREAM

This album isn't perfect. I will almost always skip SCREAM and the only reason I don't skip laughing and not being normal is because it's the very first track. Life in the Vivid Dream is okay. Everything else, though, is heavily consistent and at minimum a great song. The demonic bubblegum energy of Kill V. Maim is so hypnotic. Flesh without Blood is a fantastic angry breakup song. I love that guitar riff in Artangels. There's so much blissful electronic pop to be had here. The album sits in a weird spot for me, though, in that I cannot really bear to listen to any other Grimes album. She has some good singles here and there, but overall no other album is able to do anything for me.

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Seanchan
04/25/23 10:57:27 PM
#9:


Did a first listen the other day and enjoyed it for the most part. I was worried at the beginning that it might be "too much", plus that SCREAM song was not doing it for me, but the album finds a really good rhythm after that. I also did a listen to her two biggest songs on Spotify, Oblivion and...something else (don't remember the name), and they didn't do much for me. So, yeah, this was probably the correct album choice of hers for me.

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Seanchan
04/27/23 8:40:50 PM
#10:


Bump

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FoolFantastic
04/27/23 11:01:31 PM
#11:


Goo Goo Dolls - Dizzy Up the Girl results

The participants sorted by deviation from final results:
Seanchan (12)
Great_Paul (22)
FoolFantastic (24)
HBJDubs (26)
neonreaper (28)
Raetsel_Lapin (28)
Johnbobb (30)
MaxGalactica (36)
StifledSilence (50)

General Album Comments

Seanchan: Things I learned on a first listen of Dizzy Up the Girl:

This has most of their big hits, with the exception of Name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQOBUrRaPU0

The Goo Goo Dolls had been around for a decade before this album broke big.
They are still actively making albums today!
There's another singer in the band, who must be pissed none of his songs made the radio.
A lot of those "other singer" songs are really pop-punk sounding.
I went into this thinking, for the larger group of rankers, this might end up in that So Long Astoria tier of "fine but nothing special". Now, I don't think that'll necessarily be the case because the singles here are very strong, and they'll anchor this one further up. But it caught me completely off guard when Singer #2 had 4-5 songs on this album. Had NO idea!

Also, ever since this album got selected, I've had Broadway ear worming in my head, so nice to finally listen to it again for the first time in a long while.

StifledSilence: Its very fascinating seeing the work split between the two singers live. I didnt actually realize how much material of theirs he sang until I went to their concert as a teenager. Very sad he didnt get any singles though, I agree. I can understand why, since this albums singles are so strong. But they could have tossed him a bone after those ran their course at least.
(...)
What I expected: the singles to dominate my list

What I got: a very pleasant surprise of an album

This album came out while I was in middle school. I got it for the sake of spamming the singles and thats pretty much what I did with it. I listened to the whole thing once or twice back then and didnt think it was bad or anything. But my prevailing thought was why is the other dude singing? I softened my stance a bit when I saw them live a few years later, but it was still interesting to me how many tracks the other guy sang on. None of them ended up on the radio, which is both understandable and also a shame because theyre quite good.

Black Balloon and Iris took the top spots quite easily, as I expected. I would say those are the bands two best songs, and perhaps even two of the best songs of the 90s. But as I listened to the rest, I was surprised to see Slide and Broadway drop lower and lower. They are good songs, but I found myself really getting into the other material. This was especially true for the other guys stuff. Those songs added a nice variety to the album.

FoolFantastic: This is late-90s pop rock alright

MaxGalactica: Big fan of this album. I liked pretty much every song here. Iris and Black Balloon are both especially fantastic. Was a bit surprised by Robby Takac's vocals, but his songs weren't bad. Hard to beat Rzeznik's voice though.

HBJDubs: I don't think the other singer is very good. With that said, the top songs on the list are really great, Iris in particular being an all-time karaoke favorite

Seanchan (responding to FoolFantastic): A very succinct way of describing this album. It never becomes terrible but it does fall off fairly hard after the singles. And those singles got overplayed so hard back then that hearing them now, I was at first excited, then by the third listen I was like "okay, I'm good for another 20 years". Also, the "other" singer's songs just feel so out of place compared to the rest of the album.

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FoolFantastic
04/27/23 11:04:08 PM
#12:


Dizzy Up the Girl track ranking

13. Amigone (Track #7)
Score: 29 (Average Rank: 10.78/13)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#8)
Biggest Detractor(s): neonreaper, MaxGalactica (#13)

12. January Friend (Track #4)
Score: 34 (Average Rank: 10.22/13)
Biggest Fan(s): StifledSilence (#5)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin, Great_Paul, HBJDubs, Seanchan (#13)

11. Hate This Place (Track #13)
Score: 42 (Average Rank: 9.33/13)
Biggest Fan(s): Great_Paul, FoolFantastic, HBJDubs (#7)
Biggest Detractor(s): StifledSilence, neonreaper, Raetsel_Lapin, Seanchan, Johnbobb (#11)

10. Extra Pale (Track #12)
Score: 43 (Average Rank: 9.33/13)
Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin, Great_Paul, FoolFantastic (#12)

9. Full Forever (Track #9)
Score: 46 (Average Rank: 9/13)
Biggest Fan(s): StifledSilence (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): FoolFantastic (#13)

8. All Eyes on Me (Track #8)
Score: 61 (Average Rank: 7.22/13)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin, MaxGalactica (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): Johnbobb (#13)

7. Acoustic #3 (Track #10)
Score: 62 (Average Rank: 7.11/13)
Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): StifledSilence (#13)

6. Bullet Proof (Track #6)
Score: 64 (Average Rank: 7.11/13)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): MaxGalactica (#12)

5. Dizzy (Track #1)
Score: 73 (Average Rank: 6.44/13)
Biggest Fan(s): neonreaper (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): StifledSilence (#12)

4. Broadway (Track #3)
Score: 81 (Average Rank: 5.78/13)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#11)

3. Black Balloon (Track #5)
Score: 108 (Average Rank: 3.22/13)
Biggest Fan(s): StifledSilence (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): neonreaper (#6)

2. Slide (Track #2)
Score: 111 (Average Rank: 3.22/13)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin, Great_Paul (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): StifledSilence (#8)

1. Iris (Track #11)
Score: 128 (Average Rank: 2.22/13)
Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic, MaxGalactica, HBJDubs, Johnbobb (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#6)

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kateee
04/28/23 1:15:48 AM
#13:


Kill v. Maim
Belly of the Beat
Flesh Without Blood
Pin
California
Artangels
Realiti
Venus Fly
SCREAM
Easily
Butterfly
World Princess Part II
laughing and not being normal
Life in the Vivid Dream
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jcgamer107
04/28/23 9:02:13 PM
#14:


My album picks are bombing harder than Ari Aster's new movie

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Fluttershy_Pony
04/28/23 9:40:51 PM
#15:


Elliott Smith - From a Basement on the Hill > Tally Hall - Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum > Kero Kero Bonito - Bonito Generation

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I listened to the first song from each album and used that for the ranking. As usual, please forgive the account switching, just haven't been in a "Raetsel" mood lately.


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Johnbobb
04/28/23 10:09:12 PM
#16:


Kero Kero Bonito > Tally Hall > Elliott Smith (honestly the best Grimes songs are the ones that sound like Kero Kero Bonito songs)

  1. California - Most of this album was good but this song in particular I've listened to on repeat so many times now
  2. Belly of the Beat
  3. Kill V. Maim
  4. Venus Fly
  5. Butterfly
  6. Artangels - This sounds like it would be on the soundtrack of A Goofy Movie
  7. World Princess part II
  8. Flesh without Blood
  9. SCREAM
  10. Realiti
  11. Life in the Vivid Dream
  12. Pin
  13. Easily
  14. laughing and not being normal

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Seanchan
04/29/23 10:13:00 PM
#17:


  1. Kill V. Maim
  2. Realiti
  3. Pin
  4. Venus Fly
  5. Butterfly
  6. Artangels
  7. Belly of the Beat
  8. Flesh without Blood
  9. California
  10. World Princess part II
  11. laughing and not being normal
  12. SCREAM
  13. Easily
  14. Life in the Vivid Dream
I enjoyed this album quite a bit, with it being anchored by a very strong top 5 songs. There's some really good, cool beats here. I think this'll be one I go back to in the future.

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HBJDubs
04/29/23 11:38:01 PM
#18:


Kero Kero Bonito > Elliott Smith > Tally Hall

Realiti
Kill V. Maim
Flesh Without Blood
Pin
Butterfly
Artangels
Venus Fly
World Princess Part II
Belly Of The Beat
Easily
laughing and not being normal
California
Life In The Vivid Dream
Scream

First time hearing Grimes. The rankings truly reflect the quality on this one, as in the bottom songs are bad, the middle songs are fine, and the top songs are great

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MaxGalactica
04/30/23 12:38:16 AM
#19:


Bonito Generation > From a Basement on the Hill > Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum

Art Angels:

  1. Butterfly
  2. Realiti
  3. California
  4. Flesh without Blood
  5. Kill V. Maim
  6. Easily
  7. Artangels
  8. Venus Fly
  9. World Princess part II
  10. Belly of the Beat
  11. laughing and not being normal
  12. Life in the Vivid Dream
  13. Pin
  14. SCREAM


Been pretty impressed with the album quality over the past few weeks here. This one's really good. Production quality is top-notch and most of the tracks are unique and memorable. Top 3 on my rankings are massive bangers that have been stuck in my head all week. 4 and 5 are really good too. Nice album choice, Raetsel.

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Fluttershy_Pony
04/30/23 8:56:48 AM
#20:


MaxGalactica posted...
Nice album choice, Raetsel.

Thank you, though I should say it was originally ZaziGuado's nomination. It lost by one vote after I voted against it for selfish reasons and there was some disappointment expressed about Art Angels losing, so I thought it was worth giving another chance. Especially since I do really like the album.

Considering the general reception, I'd say it worked out.

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neonreaper
05/01/23 9:46:17 AM
#21:


Easily
Realiti
Pin
Butterfly
Flesh without Blood
Kill V. Maim
California
Artangels
laughing and not being normal
Venus Fly
World Princess part II
Belly of the Beat
SCREAM
Life in the Vivid Dream


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