Board 8 > Theatrhythm Final Bar Line Review Zone

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So far, the only problem I have with this game is that Jack Garland isn't in it.

I'm just not sure if I should pull the trigger on the purchase. I tried a purple... I doubt I'll ever be able to complete them. Sure over time skill will increase but still.

The difficulty level is definitely much harder than Melody of Memory which was my first foray in rythym games (post guitar hero era)

Strife2 posted...

I wonder what it says about Square that for once, they released an actual good game with almost no strings attached (other than the usual DLC bullshit).

What do you mean for once? Most of their recent games fall into this category (Crisis Core Reunion, Tactics Ogre Reborn, Star Ocean 6, etc.).

Star Ocean 6 was good? I wouldn't know. I couldn't get into it on account of the text font making the Pixel Remaster looking gigantic...

Then again, that's a personal issue with my vision more than anything else.

I know everybody was disappointed like me when FFX wasn't immediately unlockable, so what title did you all choose to start with (so that you may then follow it up with FFX)?

I chose FFXIII because it was the best combination of fewest songs and most familiarity with the OST.

ZaziGuado posted...

I know everybody was disappointed like me when FFX wasn't immediately unlockable, so what title did you all choose to start with (so that you may then follow it up with FFX)?

VII

Yes very disappointed

Also, Final Fantasy Record keeper being in here is absolutely hilarious

They really got everything didn't they

ZaziGuado posted...

I know everybody was disappointed like me when FFX wasn't immediately unlockable, so what title did you all choose to start with (so that you may then follow it up with FFX)?

I chose FFXIII because it was the best combination of fewest songs and most familiarity with the OST.

FF7 so I could have Red XIII off the bat. Also has good music so it was a natural first choice!

I havent touched FFX at all yet and have unlocked like 10 different games so far.

maybe Ill get to it at some point

At some point I started playing through games to the point where I can unlock the next one and I've almost unlocked them all now.

masterplum posted...

Also, Final Fantasy Record keeper being in here is absolutely hilarious

They really got everything didn't they

FFRK had some great remixes!

Which stages do I use exp eggs on

Save eggs until you get a summon stone with EXP boost effects, that stuff all stacks

play multiplayer to get summon stones easily

How much is a good EXP boost? I've got %20 equipped.

I wanna meet the person who just couldn't wait to tackle FFII's songs first

FF2's remixed music always goes super hard though

LeonhartFour posted...

I wanna meet the person who just couldn't wait to tackle FFII's songs first

I picked FFII first of the initially available stages true story

Though that was at least partially because I wanted to get Minwu

LeonhartFour posted...

I wanna meet the person who just couldn't wait to tackle FFII's songs first

I like to go in release order and those were the earliest ones available

I haven't played a theatrhythm game since the first one was on mobile. I definitely enjoyed it, and I'm a sucker for FF music. All these reviews, and your comments, are definitely swaying me towards dropping $100 on it though! Will definitely play the demo first, but this definitely scratches the nostalgia itch!

FFII was one of my first picks because I actually enjoy a bunch of the songs from it. Rebel Army and Town are fantastic tracks and better than most of Final Fantasy Music past X.

Wait, there's a Chrono Trigger pack later on?? Oh damn, even more tempting...

Something to Protect is NOT a 9 on Ultimate! Do not believe the game when it tells you this.

Definitely a 10 >_> at least

The hardest Ultimate song for me so far was one of the Mystic Quest ones, Hill of Destiny

Actually, maybe the problem is the condition for the fight where everything does double damage. I swear if you miss a couple notes you are already dead.

But I still think it's a 10 and not a 9 >_>

Damn, Not Alone is only a 6 with Ultimate being it's highest rating. Ah well.

https://twitter.com/ArtemisDog_/status/1626503565291454466

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/9/AAblU3AAEMRX.jpg

Helllll yeah!

https://twitter.com/NoisyPixelNews/status/1626275159098249217?t=VZaDe7NddFxnB49tyHl_Kw&s=19

RIP

currently no plans, but not explicitly definitely not happening maybe theyll try to suck another $30 out of us with a second year of content

Hatsune Miku games had a Switch version come out 3-5 years later after Future Tone, and then ported the 15-20 other songs onto the PS4 later for people who had the OG version. Not saying Square will do the same with XVI music, but they "should" be able to do.

I mean, once Curtain Call's planned rounds of DLC finished, they never added anything else.

I guess they could add some stuff later since the DLC rounds will continue beyond XVI's release date.

Ok, the green double holds where they start at different times but the latter one ends before the first one is the most bullshit mechanic so far.

My brain does not do that

masterplum posted...

Ok, the green double holds where they start at different times but the latter one ends before the first one is the most bullshit mechanic so far.

My brain does not do that

Persona pulls that shit

Also hell has the FF2 chocobo theme on repeat

They could have cut that one

So I downloaded the demo and am already hooked. Definitely buying the base game when I get a break from work in a little bit. Unsure about the DLC as of yet, but with Zanarkand sitting behind it....

Just going back over how evil the original was.
-78 tracks advertised
-26 were opening/ending, mostly prelude and main series theme repeated with no real gameplay
-13 required unlocking through randomized challenge mode on max difficulty
-52 more available as DLC for $1 each, no bundles
-This breaks down to one battle, field/dungeon and story track per game that I could actually play in the base game, for a total of 39
-The DLC is filled with the battle, boss and final boss themes for some of the most popular games

masterplum posted...

Ok, the green double holds where they start at different times but the latter one ends before the first one is the most bullshit mechanic so far.

My brain does not do that

These are part of why I switched to exclusively using the left and right triggers for gameplay rather than buttons, it was the only way I could keep it straight in my head. The biggest one though, was the times when a short hold also had a regular note at the same time as the start and end of the hold

Probably gonna get dunked on for this post, but I got to try this last night. Played through all of 2, 1, and 8 in that order.

I'm...really not sure what I'm doing. Like, I get that it's a rhythm game, and that part makes sense to me, but I just don't get the window dressing for the game. Okay, we get to make a party of four and they "fight" as we play the song, but...we have zero control over it. Yes, the party is successful when we're successful, but I'm basically completely ignoring the stuff in the background because I have no interaction with it and don't see any reason why I should care. I also don't understand why there are four tracks when at most we're only ever hitting 2 notes. It gives more space for the trombone champ sections, but that seems like a silly reason to stretch the play area.

As for the rhythm game itself, it's...okay? I dislike games that grade you on how accurately you hit notes, and the directional stuff is kinda awful most of the time -- though I'll admit that last part could just be skill issue. I should probably learn to use the shoulder buttons to trigger so I can keep my thumbs on the sticks. Even so, all the directions look more or less the same, so until your eyes are actively looking at them, i.e. it's time to play that note now, it's hard to process which direction you're going to be using.

Don't get me wrong. My general impressions of the game are positive, and I enjoy getting to experience FF music, but I feel like they should have done something more like Metronomicon.

azuarc posted...

Probably gonna get dunked on for this post, but I got to try this last night. Played through all of 2, 1, and 8 in that order.

I'm...really not sure what I'm doing. Like, I get that it's a rhythm game, and that part makes sense to me, but I just don't get the window dressing for the game. Okay, we get to make a party of four and they "fight" as we play the song, but...we have zero control over it. Yes, the party is successful when we're successful, but I'm basically completely ignoring the stuff in the background because I have no interaction with it and don't see any reason why I should care. I also don't understand why there are four tracks when at most we're only ever hitting 2 notes. It gives more space for the trombone champ sections, but that seems like a silly reason to stretch the play area.

As for the rhythm game itself, it's...okay? I dislike games that grade you on how accurately you hit notes, and the directional stuff is kinda awful most of the time -- though I'll admit that last part could just be skill issue. I should probably learn to use the shoulder buttons to trigger so I can keep my thumbs on the sticks. Even so, all the directions look more or less the same, so until your eyes are actively looking at them, i.e. it's time to play that note now, it's hard to process which direction you're going to be using.

Don't get me wrong. My general impressions of the game are positive, and I enjoy getting to experience FF music, but I feel like they should have done something more like Metronomicon.

There is no reason to dunk on you. It might just not be your thing.

You have to realize power wash simulator is a very popular game where you... wash things. Thats it.

I would put this game in that hemisphere of gaming. While the rpg stuff is kind of nifty, the point of the game is to listen to final fantasy music and push buttons

A review I saw called the RPG elements "superfluous" and I pretty much agree.

masterplum posted...

While the rpg stuff is kind of nifty, the point of the game is to listen to final fantasy music and push buttons

If I had the impression it was meant to be "superfluous," as the post above me says, I'd be fine with ignoring it. The way they push it in the presentation, it feels like they expect it to be an integral part of your experience. This isn't like designing your character in rock band, which has no impact on anything other than you see that character on the half of the screen you aren't using. They've got all these unlockables that are ostensibly tied to your party and their performance, and you're actively slowing down your gameplay loop if you want to address those things.

masterplum posted...

Also hell has the FF2 chocobo theme on repeat

They could have cut that one

Yeaaaaaah. It's literally the same 5 seconds over and over and over LMAO

The RPG stuff makes a little more sense once you unlock the Endless mode. Even still you can mostly ignore it if you want to!

Eww...That's on the level of Hurry from FF5 and What from FF6 as worst songs in the franchise.

azuarc posted...

I'm basically completely ignoring the stuff in the background because I have no interaction with it and don't see any reason why I should care.

You ignore the stuff in the background because you have no interaction with it and don't see any reason why you should care.

I ignore it because my eyes are too focused on the right side of the screen, trying to time my inputs

We are not the same.

I think it's just not going to click with you. The party rarely matters outside of completing the extra goal each track as, along with online multiplayer and Endless Mode.

I mean, I use Red XIII, Vivi, Mog and Chocobo so I'd HOPE that team composition rarely matters with a team that weak LOL. If I was forced into using edgelords just to progress I'd be pretty upset.

I love this game so much

FFXIV music kinda makes me want to play it

ok my brain realizing that <> and >< are the same damn thing would be helpful.

For some reason the one thats like

v
^

always trips me up

I think I have more trouble noticing that double arrows in one direction aren't single arrows in time.