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changmas
02/07/23 10:50:55 AM
#351:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
What even happened?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/9/AAGQPmAAEKLn.jpg
Subterranea flipped turn 1. I hit him with Korg AND Rock Slide, and he still managed to draw more non-rocks than me. Fuck

i dont think he did though. It looks like he just had sentinel in the opening hand and kept replaying it


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Lopen
02/07/23 10:54:08 AM
#352:


Not really vibing with MODOK yet but I'll figure out a way to use him. I've tried Hela and Mephisto and while they've both worked the decks aren't very fun. I might need to wait till Dracula.

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FFDragon
02/07/23 10:56:14 AM
#353:


changmas posted...
i dont think he did though. It looks like he just had sentinel in the opening hand and kept replaying it

Can't draw rocks if you don't draw cards *head point*

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RikkuAlmighty
02/07/23 11:16:32 AM
#354:


Lopen posted...
Not really vibing with MODOK yet but I'll figure out a way to use him. I've tried Hela and Mephisto and while they've both worked the decks aren't very fun. I might need to wait till Dracula.
Moon Girl -> Morbin Time

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WazzupGenius00
02/07/23 11:58:53 AM
#355:


Lopen posted...
Not really vibing with MODOK yet but I'll figure out a way to use him. I've tried Hela and Mephisto and while they've both worked the decks aren't very fun. I might need to wait till Dracula.
some kind of Wong/Modok/Collector/Morbius thing with Swarm would be great if not for the hand size issue already discovered

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swordz9
02/07/23 12:09:53 PM
#356:


Damn pulled Zola with Cable and then my hand got shuffled into my deck by the one location. I wanted to play Devil Dinosaur and then Zola him
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Jakyl25
02/07/23 12:24:48 PM
#357:


Lopen posted...
Not really vibing with MODOK yet but I'll figure out a way to use him. I've tried Hela and Mephisto and while they've both worked the decks aren't very fun. I might need to wait till Dracula.

Mephisto?!

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Lopen
02/07/23 12:30:48 PM
#358:


Didn't you hear? Morbius is secretly Mephisto

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ChaosTonyV4
02/07/23 12:34:14 PM
#359:


I wonder if Mephisto ever actually comes out.

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swordz9
02/07/23 12:41:58 PM
#360:


Newest card I got is Leader
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IfGodCouldDie
02/07/23 12:56:37 PM
#361:


I desperately need Sue Storm now.

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Stevie3V
02/07/23 1:04:06 PM
#362:


So I played this game a lot at launch but I had some hesitation on getting into it fully and figure Id ask a group of people that are into it, where does the game fall on the casual/competitive spectrum? The concept of the game is really nice to me but my brother who was way more into it than I was got put off by the amount of casual/random centric design choices. Obviously theres a cool concept here with great collectible characters but would you guys say the game is worth it for someone more focused on the strategic depth to it?

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 1:11:40 PM
#363:


Theres LOADS of strategic depth to it IMO. Granted this is my first card game so I have nothing to compare it to, but its far from just Marvel fanboys collecting their faves

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 1:13:08 PM
#364:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I wonder if Mephisto ever actually comes out.

I hope so, talk about a must have card.

Unless they tweak it so youre also risking twice as much

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KommunistKoala
02/07/23 1:13:30 PM
#365:


there are some very random locations but usually those won't cost you more than 1 or 2 cubes (rank points), assuming you're on the bad side of the rng

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 1:13:37 PM
#366:


swordz9 posted...
Newest card I got is Leader

Right after the nerf, ouch

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Lopen
02/07/23 1:15:44 PM
#367:


I'd put it above Hearthstone (this is probably debatable, but I would argue it) and below Magic the Gathering in terms of strategic depth if that gives you a ballpark. There are some random elements to it but it's nothing that distracts too much from the game. The great thing is due to snap mechanics getting RNG screwed generally only costs you 1/4 - 1/8 what an actual fought out victory will gain you.

There's definitely a lot of meaningful decision making during the game and in deck construction. I'd give it a shot.

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Chaeix
02/07/23 1:18:19 PM
#368:


how quickly can you get cards with just f2p?

hearthstone became way too pay-to-win with how many legendaries you needed to have a viable deck

and I say that as someone who bought every hs expansion for the first 3 years

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skullbone
02/07/23 1:19:45 PM
#369:


I think the randomness is offset by the cube system and how quick games are.

In Hearthstone you could play for 30 minutes and then lose to a random effect and it felt AWFUL. Or you'd have a marathon 30 minute battle against someone, win your 1 star, then immediately lose to an aggro deck in 3 turns and be back where you started.

I always said Hearthstone should have had a system where some games provided more rank stars based on length or whatever. Marvel Snap took that suggestion AND lowered the games to be 5 minutes long.

So yeah sometimes you'll lose literally on the first location being revealed but you just back out and lose your 1 cube and move on. Other games will come down to a 50/50 and you need to decide where your opponent is going to play his big card to counter. But then it's up to you whether you want to risk more cubes to take that chance or play safe.

There was a deck I was ranking up with last month that was basically built to guarantee situations where I could not lose on turn 6. So yeah there's plenty of strategic depth to the game.

Just know that it's going to take you 6 months to catch up to having 95% of the cards.

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swordz9
02/07/23 1:21:05 PM
#370:


Jakyl25 posted...
Right after the nerf, ouch
Ah well just getting a new card is nice. Finally got Jubilee upgraded to Infinity and got back 400 credits from CL so that was nice.
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Chaeix
02/07/23 1:25:35 PM
#371:


skullbone posted...
Just know that it's going to take you 6 months to catch up to having 95% of the cards.

okay nvm

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skullbone
02/07/23 1:27:58 PM
#372:


I mean it's really not that bad, especially compared to Hearthstone.

And while you're getting new cards you're only going to be paired up against people with similar collection levels. So you aren't going to be playing against people who have all of the cards until you're in a similar position.

And honestly this game does a good job of encouraging the "make the most of what you have" style of deckbuilding. So if you like deckbuilding at all you'll enjoy working through getting the cards.

It's not like you need to grind for 6 months until you start having fun, pretty much everybody in this topic is in that part of the game because it just came out 3-4 months ago.

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Lopen
02/07/23 1:28:32 PM
#373:


Chaeix posted...
how quickly can you get cards with just f2p?

Pretty fast. If do all the weekly missions and don't waste credits on fast level up from the shop you gain collector level fast.

I'm somewhat paid (all 4 season passes, the jubilee and captain america bundles and the gambit/rogue bundle so like $70) but not whaling and am only missing like 8 cards from a full set of series 3 cards with 4 months of playtime. If I was pure FTP I'd probably have like 60%-70% of the cards I'm guessing?

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swordz9
02/07/23 1:29:58 PM
#374:


Its pretty decent all things considered. I am pretty new to the game and am already like maybe 8-10 cards into Pool 3
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Jakyl25
02/07/23 1:31:58 PM
#375:


Yeah its not like being a whale gets you cards significantly faster. The only real unfair advantage of being a paid player is that every month you will have access to one featured new card that f2p players wont

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skullbone
02/07/23 1:34:02 PM
#376:


In other news this Black Panther variant was in my shop today and I had to grab it:

https://marvelsnapzone.com/wp-content/themes/blocksy-child/assets/media/cards/25_166025534036.webp?v=37

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IfGodCouldDie
02/07/23 1:35:10 PM
#377:


Jakyl25 posted...
Yeah its not like being a whale gets you cards significantly faster. The only real unfair advantage of being a paid player is that every month you will have access to one featured new card that f2p players wont
To add to this somewhat, I just spent my first money on this game for a pass specifically because the card being offered synergizes with the style of decks i play.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/07/23 2:08:39 PM
#378:


Chaeix posted...
how quickly can you get cards with just f2p?

hearthstone became way too pay-to-win with how many legendaries you needed to have a viable deck

and I say that as someone who bought every hs expansion for the first 3 years

The way it onboards you solves this issue tbh.

Youre limited to Series 1/2 as you collect the cards, and dont face everyone until you hit Series 3, at which point you have tons of useable cards.

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Stevie3V
02/07/23 2:11:52 PM
#379:


Ok Ill definitely have to dive back in, I did like what I saw at launch and assuming it progresses like most games where the more you unlock the more depth you get I think Ill enjoy it quite a bit

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swordz9
02/07/23 2:16:19 PM
#380:


I just impulsively bought Rogue because I wanted her and having her sooner means potentially getting Variants of her sooner. I dunno how much work shell do for me without some other cards, but her ability is based on stealing an enemys Ongoing so it feels like its more of what my enemy has than my own deck anyways. If they have no Ongoings I guess she would just not be played by me that match?
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PrivateBiscuit1
02/07/23 2:20:34 PM
#381:


Debating making a MODOK discard deck because MODOK is love MODOK is life.

It seems like the way to do it is to have MODOK, Pooky, Swarm, Morb, Dracula, and America. And fill in the rest how you like. Pooky won't die, you get a good 6 energy card to play every time after he nukes everything, and Swarm can be added anywhere for 0 cost. Morb racks up the points with MODOK nuke, and Drac absorbs Pooky.

Any other theory crafting anyone has for this?

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RikkuAlmighty
02/07/23 2:23:28 PM
#382:


Whats pooky

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 2:23:52 PM
#383:


swordz9 posted...
I just impulsively bought Rogue because I wanted her and having her sooner means potentially getting Variants of her sooner. I dunno how much work shell do for me without some other cards, but her ability is based on stealing an enemys Ongoing so it feels like its more of what my enemy has than my own deck anyways. If they have no Ongoings I guess she would just not be played by me that match?

Unless youre just desperate for her whopping 1 base power somewhere, lol


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skullbone
02/07/23 2:24:28 PM
#384:


swordz9 posted...
I just impulsively bought Rogue because I wanted her and having her sooner means potentially getting Variants of her sooner. I dunno how much work shell do for me without some other cards, but her ability is based on stealing an enemys Ongoing so it feels like its more of what my enemy has than my own deck anyways. If they have no Ongoings I guess she would just not be played by me that match?

Rogue will be fun against all of the Invisible Woman discard decks that are probably being played right now. Steal Invisible Woman's power on turn 5 and watch as MODOK discards their entire hand.

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 2:25:37 PM
#385:


Keep in mind though that steal doesnt mean copy, it literally means steal. The opponent card LOSES its ability

So when you are playing against Ongoing cards, she can cripple their game plan

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 2:27:34 PM
#386:


RikkuAlmighty posted...
Whats pooky

Apocalypse

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swordz9
02/07/23 2:31:08 PM
#387:


Clearly my power play is gonna be Jubilee pulling out Rogue in a lane with no Ongoing and me having taken up 2 spots for a 4/2. Its bound to happen sometimes
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Jakyl25
02/07/23 2:31:29 PM
#388:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Debating making a MODOK discard deck because MODOK is love MODOK is life.

It seems like the way to do it is to have MODOK, Pooky, Swarm, Morb, Dracula, and America. And fill in the rest how you like. Pooky won't die, you get a good 6 energy card to play every time after he nukes everything, and Swarm can be added anywhere for 0 cost. Morb racks up the points with MODOK nuke, and Drac absorbs Pooky.

Any other theory crafting anyone has for this?

Seems like the perfect deck for Strong Guy

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Lopen
02/07/23 2:32:55 PM
#389:


Strong guy never triggers with Apocalypse unless you actually play Apocalypse

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 2:41:51 PM
#390:


Seems like the perfect deck for Mystique then!

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Lopen
02/07/23 3:27:12 PM
#391:


Funny unintentional counterplay here

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/4/AAAlMSAAEKRy.jpg

I had Xavier locking down the left with me winning and he had played Wave turn 4 and he sent Green Goblin mid turn 3. So I'm like "well let's get this -6 Goblin out" and oh right Galactus deck.

I'm disappointed I only got 1 cube.

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swordz9
02/07/23 3:41:53 PM
#392:


Im surprised I managed to tie this game

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Chaeix
02/07/23 3:46:31 PM
#393:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The way it onboards you solves this issue tbh.

Youre limited to Series 1/2 as you collect the cards, and dont face everyone until you hit Series 3, at which point you have tons of useable cards.
hmmmmm

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WazzupGenius00
02/07/23 4:09:51 PM
#394:


swordz9 posted...
I just impulsively bought Rogue because I wanted her and having her sooner means potentially getting Variants of her sooner. I dunno how much work shell do for me without some other cards, but her ability is based on stealing an enemys Ongoing so it feels like its more of what my enemy has than my own deck anyways. If they have no Ongoings I guess she would just not be played by me that match?
Rogue is ideal as an alternative to Enchantress if your own deck has a lot of Ongoings that you would rather not hit. Pairs alright with Mystique too, you can play both on turn 6 for a nice turnaround (Mystique will copy the thing Rogue steals, ideally Iron Man or Blue Marvel

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Chaeix
02/07/23 4:16:10 PM
#395:


Okay I gave it a try, seems like a decent game to play on the bus idly, won my first couple pvp matches.

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swordz9
02/07/23 4:18:05 PM
#396:


Well shit now everyone Im playing has cards I dont again. My Rogue almost stole Super Skrulls ability which wouldve won me a match just now. Guy also had Mystique though so maybe not? Bah I hope Im not fated to already be facing Wongs and stuff at this low a tier
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WazzupGenius00
02/07/23 4:21:28 PM
#397:


Super Skrull is a relative rarity, Ive only seen it like twice. I dont know what happens if both sides play one, does the first one played get the effects of the other, or vice-versa? Or neither?

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swordz9
02/07/23 4:41:53 PM
#398:


Welp my second or third match with Rogue in my deck got me the poor scenario of Jubilee pulling her out. That was much faster than expected haha
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Jakyl25
02/07/23 5:45:58 PM
#399:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
Super Skrull is a relative rarity, Ive only seen it like twice. I dont know what happens if both sides play one, does the first one played get the effects of the other, or vice-versa? Or neither?

Both would copy all Ongoing effects from the other dude, including Super Skrull (pointlessly, since Super Skrull already has Super Skrulls Ongoing ability <_<)

The effects dont stack or anything.

I still think Rogue is better because she takes one away

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Jakyl25
02/07/23 5:49:34 PM
#400:


God, if theres ever a Secret Invasion season, what sorts of Skrull bullshit will we get

EDIT: something like Danger Room where theres a 25% chance any card played there exposed as a Skrull Imposter (who are like 1/1 or something after being exposed)

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