Board 8 > Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Mafia: 1-2 Something A Bit Meatier

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:31:45 PM
#51:


Buddying*

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EDumey
01/24/23 9:32:31 PM
#52:


Hey now, I've been patient with other people not responding immediately, give me a little time. I'm doing other things too. I haven't been hard on IGCD running away after making a BS accusation at me, have I?

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Ultimaterializer
01/24/23 9:32:43 PM
#53:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Can someone not Ulti tell me how I went from number 1 scum on his list to town?
I'm allowed to change my mind.

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:33:11 PM
#54:


Lopen posted...
Counterclaim miller

Also of note my role can't be blocked by night actions despite not having a night action.

##Vote: Plum

He is most likely scum

Here is my claim post

I think it's strange that someone so interested in it has nothing to say beyond "we mustn't let a claimed Miller try and drive town"

Like am I not the only one who sees a lot of ways to attack this if I really wanted to?


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EDumey
01/24/23 9:34:26 PM
#55:


I'm not trying to manufacture ways to attack you Lopen. I'm talking about my impression of the game state.

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:34:32 PM
#56:


EDumey posted...
If you're scum and you've cast a wide net on multiple town targets, then it becomes hard to lynch anyone else by day's end.
I feel like this only works if lopen is good at bringing people to his side (not evident so far) or other players already agree with him (again not really a thing except for me!)

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:35:06 PM
#57:


EDumey posted...
Hey now, I've been patient with other people not responding immediately, give me a little time. I'm doing other things too. I haven't been hard on IGCD running away after making a BS accusation at me, have I?
No, but i will be hard for you if you want

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:35:40 PM
#58:


...wait

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:35:50 PM
#59:


It's not manufacturing attacks! It's things to want to know! Why is "miller" the only interesting thing there! I mean Sultan got a bunch of flak for "why didn't he claim his flavor??" but that seems more honest a reaction than "w...w... the MILLER... I mean..."

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EDumey
01/24/23 9:36:50 PM
#60:


Peace___Frog posted...
I feel like this only works if lopen is good at bringing people to his side (not evident so far) or other players already agree with him (again not really a thing except for me!)
Are you saying Lopen is too bad of a player to lead a lynch? I was giving him more credit than that! Look at the votals, three of the four I just mentioned there are the only ones (+ Sultan) with multiple votes on them.

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:37:59 PM
#61:


Anyway, we know that igcd is overseas so i don't really fault him for his disappearance. He also said he'd be busy and was looking for summary posts!

Jc, on the other hand, i am frustrated with.

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Ultimaterializer
01/24/23 9:38:55 PM
#62:


Lopen not being able to convince people to vote for his suspects is a massive town tell of his.

EDumey posted...
Are you saying Lopen is too bad of a player to lead a lynch?
You don't have to be bad to be unable to convince people of a lynch. Lopen is a very very good player.

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:40:44 PM
#63:


I can't convince people of my targets ever until later game

And it's not a tell. It happens as either alignment

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EDumey
01/24/23 9:41:15 PM
#64:


Lopen posted...
It's not manufacturing attacks! It's things to want to know! Why is "miller" the only interesting thing there! I mean Sultan got a bunch of flak for "why didn't he claim his flavor??" but that seems more honest a reaction than "w...w... the MILLER... I mean..."
Who are you talking to? Did I give flak to Sultan for flavor?

You just tested the water with a potential JC suspicion not a moment ago, and the other part I mentioned about not liking your Ulti accusation seems to not be worthy of a reply at the moment. I apologize for voicing distrust in anyone outside the Lopen Approved Circle of Influence.

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:43:06 PM
#65:


Ok I'll do it for you

"HEY Lopen why are you saying your can't be blocked by night actions despite not having a night action"

"HEY Lopen why didn't you claim flavor"

"HEY Lopen why did you counterclaim Plum then not actually pressure Plum much"

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:43:48 PM
#66:


These are all things that I would ask me if I didn't believe me! I wouldn't ask some other people "hey what do you think about Lopen's miller claim???"

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EDumey
01/24/23 9:44:59 PM
#67:


I don't care about those things though, Lopen.

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:48:12 PM
#68:


A thought that i just had is what if jc is telling the truth about everything except his alignment.
It's a weird role, but would that give scum any benefit? One extra vote for three days? Or would it be more of a detriment because then there's guaranteed evidence? But if they know it's going to happen then they can try to play around it...

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:48:19 PM
#69:


Then what do you care about? Just that I claimed miller? Don't those help figure out whether I'm town or scum?

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:51:18 PM
#70:


Peace___Frog posted...
A thought that i just had is what if jc is telling the truth about everything except his alignment.
It's a weird role, but would that give scum any benefit? One extra vote for three days? Or would it be more of a detriment because then there's guaranteed evidence? But if they know it's going to happen then they can try to play around it...

Really????

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EDumey
01/24/23 9:52:33 PM
#71:


I said that people claiming miller deserve an extra layer of scrutiny. I don't think Plum was a good vote. I don't think Ulti was a good vote. I don't think JC is currently a good vote anymore. And after seemingly missing several times, I'm not sure I would want to follow your Red vote either. If we were to do a true random lynch, I'd rather push that to someone you didn't volunteer now.

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TheSultanOfSlam
01/24/23 9:52:58 PM
#72:


Ah question for you ED! If you had to vig shot Lopen to save yourself and to win the game how confident are you in that read.

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:53:26 PM
#73:


As far as not-posters go, hb has had a similar presence to red, star has made one post that i can recall, and all chang did was piece together jc's claim.

Which he would have been doing as scum anyway, assuming jc is town (which I'm leaning towards as of recently).

Still think plum is possibly scum but that push has come and gone, and I'm doubtful that i can get anything going there.

##unvote
##vote: chang


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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:54:23 PM
#74:


Lopen posted...
Really????
There's a reason i got really upset in that game where Kirby accused you of being the leading crackpot theorist of the board!

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:55:49 PM
#75:


##Unvote:
##Vote: Edumey

I can't convince anyone so no worry

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 9:56:28 PM
#76:


Hey now, those were my words.

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Lopen
01/24/23 9:57:35 PM
#77:


I don't think you're scum and it's topical

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EDumey
01/24/23 9:59:41 PM
#78:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Ah question for you ED! If you had to vig shot Lopen to save yourself and to win the game how confident are you in that read.
You can call me Dume or Dumey. This is an odd hypothetical. If I had to shoot to "save myself" then yes, because I know I am confirmed town. If I had a vig right now, I would not shoot Lopen, no.

To be clear, I have not outright claimed I think Lopen is scum. I've just said we should display caution with the lynches he's leading. The ideal situation right now would be for some other people like SBell, Chang, HB, Red, or 5starscream to pop in and give some opinions so we can have a talk outside the Lopen-sphere.

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Lopen
01/24/23 10:00:23 PM
#79:


Ultimately I am waning on JC. If for no other reason than I think if he was scum, he'd have been bussed by at least SOMEONE. I wouldn't be alone in the trenches here.

The other possibility is he is scum and one or more of his scum buddies pretended to bus him and then got "convinced" otherwise.

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 10:02:46 PM
#80:


I haven't ruled out that second scenario

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EDumey
01/24/23 10:03:07 PM
#81:


So Lopen, you think there's a higher chance of me being scum than Ulti now? What happened to your read on him? I've only brought it up three times recently without you responding to it once.

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Lopen
01/24/23 10:08:13 PM
#82:


Why are you trying to convince me to vote someone you claim to think is town?

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EDumey
01/24/23 10:11:46 PM
#83:


I don't think that's an honest interpretation at all. I'm asking you to clarify why you thought Ulti was a good vote target, because I wasn't convinced before. I also asked SBell at the end of the last topic to try and get someone else's opinion so I could maybe understand better if it was specifically a player tell.

I specifically said in a previous post
EDumey posted...
I think if I were on board with your Ulti suspicion, and/or you hadn't claimed Miller, I would be fully on the Lopen train.
but you seem to be unwilling to try and move me on one of those parts. I'm only pressing it now because you've specifically avoided it.

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EDumey
01/24/23 10:12:34 PM
#84:


Also I didn't claim I thought Ulti was town. I said I was neutral on him and didn't think you made a good vote on him.

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TheSultanOfSlam
01/24/23 10:13:54 PM
#85:


EDumey posted...
You can call me Dume or Dumey. This is an odd hypothetical. If I had to shoot to "save myself" then yes, because I know I am confirmed town. If I had a vig right now, I would not shoot Lopen, no.

To be clear, I have not outright claimed I think Lopen is scum. I've just said we should display caution with the lynches he's leading. The ideal situation right now would be for some other people like SBell, Chang, HB, Red, or 5starscream to pop in and give some opinions so we can have a talk outside the Lopen-sphere.

I like this answer actually idk if it pushes me either way but I like it

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EDumey
01/24/23 10:23:42 PM
#86:


oh boy it's been ten minutes DAE think he's gone to ISO Ulti's posts to come up with something more than "ulti lazy"???
(this is a joke post don't shoot)

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 10:24:53 PM
#87:


Dae?

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EDumey
01/24/23 10:28:00 PM
#88:


does anyone else
commonly used sarcastically like "DAE sometimes pee while they shower!?!?!"

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Peace___Frog
01/24/23 10:30:33 PM
#89:


I see.
I'll forget by next game. But thanks!

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Lopen
01/24/23 10:30:33 PM
#90:


EDumey posted...
I don't think that's an honest interpretation at all. I'm asking you to clarify why you thought Ulti was a good vote target, because I wasn't convinced before

Listen homie it's day 1. You tell me what is unconvincing and I can elaborate

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EDumey
01/24/23 10:32:03 PM
#91:


Give me the run down. If you think Ulti is a good vote, why should I vote for him?

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IfGodCouldDie
01/24/23 10:39:23 PM
#92:


Peace___Frog posted...
Hey igcd.
I don't care how you feel about me. Could you walk me through your evaluation of death? I accused you of being extremely flippy floppy about him, and you started going in harder on me. What's up with that?
I think that having your thoughts there could help with my reread when i get to that part.
It was less about death and more about you trying to justify my shot on him that bothered me.

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IfGodCouldDie
01/24/23 10:40:12 PM
#93:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
IGCD, JC, why Peaf? What made you think he's Scummy or that pressure is worthwhile on him?
Him trying to justify my shot on death bothered me a lot.

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Lopen
01/24/23 10:49:41 PM
#94:


1. Attack on Sultan didn't make sense

2. Suspected me for being lazy (what? Why?)

3. Now he's town cleared me because I can't convince people (null tell)

What is hard here

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Lopen
01/24/23 10:59:24 PM
#95:


Like you may not be convinced but he hasn't had a ton of posts you can only make so deep a case on anyone


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Ultimaterializer
01/24/23 11:02:11 PM
#96:


You just had a game in kingmaker where you basically led the scum team. This was less than a year ago my dude.

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EDumey
01/24/23 11:13:10 PM
#97:


Man if I were being this evasive with you, I'm sure you'd be grilling me over the coals about it. I'm annoyed that I have to be the one to go back and pull posts even though I've asked you six times now. You'd think town who wants to bring people to their side would be a little more willing to present their case.

So the order of operations was
Ulti makes a vote on Sultan based on a perspective slip he thought he found. (It was later clarified that the perspective slip was based on an incorrect premise, but not at this time.)
Then you post a vote while talking about something completely irrelevant.
Lopen posted...
##Unvote:

##Vote: Ulti

Sultans logic on Death was sound and I was getting the same vibes reading his posts.

Then you clarify
Lopen posted...
Your reaction didn't seem right. I actually have other reasons too. The big thing for me is you immediately launched into "THIS IS WHY B8 TOWN IS BAD AT THE GAME" but saying the general vibe just seemed weird seems like the kinda thing a town Sultan would latch onto imo

So why am I voting Ulti and not you? Because it's not necessarily you being scum. However Ulti if honestly trying to find a vote target probably doesn't vote Sultan.
And that's when Ulti calls your vote atrocious and bad, not lazy.
Then you are the one to bring up lazy here
Lopen posted...
I will special right back onto Ulti

I am with you on Ulti. Very lazy scummish play.

Are we clear on why I think this is an unconvincing chain of events to think Ulti is scum? It's literally you calling him lazy, and then somehow now getting it mixed up and thinking you were the one accused of being lazy.
And now you've added that you don't like him using a personal tell on you. Judging how you're voting me because I'm expressing any level of doubt toward you, I'm beginning to think you just vote for anyone who criticizes you.

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EDumey
01/24/23 11:16:43 PM
#98:


I think we've reached the end of this conversation chain, no need to keep digging in the mud. I'll probably need to reread to actually find someone I'd be willing to vote for right now so I can follow my own advice.

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Lopen
01/24/23 11:20:53 PM
#99:


Ultimaterializer posted...
That's not it. It's more you're being very lazy, and I have too much respect for your town play (legitimately usually very good!) to let that slide.


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IfGodCouldDie
01/24/23 11:22:46 PM
#100:


EDumey posted...
Hey now, I've been patient with other people not responding immediately, give me a little time. I'm doing other things too. I haven't been hard on IGCD running away after making a BS accusation at me, have I?
If you read the sign up topic I explain that I work nights in a remote part of the country service is extremely spotty. Right now we are staged waiting to go up a mountain and haul rocks down.

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