Board 8 > Genshin Impact Topic 12: Believing in the Heart of the Gacha

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swordz9
04/20/23 1:24:03 PM
#201:


Wow congrats. Ive still got several at low levels since theyve been unused (poor Aloy). I dont even have proper artifacts for 85% or more of my characters either, but that basically only matters for Abyss 12
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azuarc
04/20/23 7:42:59 PM
#202:


That's some dedication to leveling.

Now get separate artifacts and weapons for all of them. =p

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dilateDChemist
04/20/23 11:22:11 PM
#203:






Now get separate artifacts and weapons for all of them. =p

I do.

Maybe my next goal is to level all (4* and up) weapons!


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swordz9
04/25/23 8:14:29 PM
#204:


So I can R5 Rust and am wondering if I should do it for Yoimiya. Id still have 1 Rust left too and I dont think its needed for very many archers
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SockoressKnight
04/25/23 8:54:44 PM
#205:


Do it. Who else uses Rust? Aloy, Tartaglia, Physical!Fischl?

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azuarc
04/25/23 8:55:42 PM
#206:


if you have 6 of them, I see no reason not to R5 one. As a general rule, the only reason I can think of not to refine is that you genuinely want the weapons separately, but there aren't many weapons you'd want more than 2 of. FavGe maybe, but certainly not Rust.

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azuarc
04/25/23 8:56:44 PM
#207:


SockoressKnight posted...
Do it. Who else uses Rust? Aloy, Tartaglia, Physical!Fischl?

The idea of Aloy using a weapon called Rust is strangely amusing to me.

https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Rost

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swordz9
04/27/23 9:33:59 PM
#208:


It is done. Also damn I gotta catch up on more quests for this new event. I got Cynos done recently at least. Guess I should prioritize Alhaitham and Archon quest 3 or whatever next.
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swordz9
05/03/23 8:28:00 AM
#209:


I guess Baizhu and Kaveh are out now. Candace Cs are all Id want from either banner so skipping. Still catching up on plot content, but did enough to where I can finally start the event for a free Faruzan.
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azuarc
05/03/23 9:57:43 AM
#210:


I'm waiting to hear more about the dendro boyz before I pull. I have to assume Fontaine is on the horizon, so maybe we'll start seeing characters for elements besides dendro again soon.

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SwiftyDC
05/07/23 10:13:29 PM
#211:


Still figuring out how their mechanics work. Gotta farm some more Mourning Flowers. Baizhu is battle ready tho, using him in the healer role, nothing crazy about him jumps out after a few days of playing with him.

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azuarc
05/08/23 9:15:51 AM
#212:


We need to get back to posting in this topic so we can start a new topic when Fontaine comes out lol.

I did 2/3 of the event last night. It was cute. Thankfully, I didn't have to do Dehya's entire quest to unlock like I feared. The idea of being "commentator" for the event is a surprisingly good explanation for why we'd be there watching everything closely. I'm pretty sure I know what's going to happen in the final third, but maybe the writers will pull a swerve. It sure seems like they're setting up for Wanderer to win the last round after scoring zero previously, and win the competition, but Kaveh will be rewarded by Sachin, the sponsor, for being the first participant that impressed him and his nihilism. I still dunno what's up with the cursed diadem.

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SockoressKnight
05/08/23 9:16:57 AM
#213:


Meant to start the event over the weekend, so I guess that's what I'll be doing all week

Also couldn't be bothered to do the card event.

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swordz9
05/08/23 9:38:51 AM
#214:


I finished the event. It was a good time. Now I just need to catch up on Nilou, Alhaitham, Nahida, Dehya and Baizhu characters quests. Still got the latest Archon quest too. The event took longer than I expected it to since I got such a late start to it. I hope we get some events that give some good screen time to Mondstadt and Liyue characters. This Sumeru event was probably the best of the bunch so far
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swordz9
05/11/23 8:56:35 AM
#215:


3.7 stream this weekend
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azuarc
05/11/23 9:13:33 AM
#216:


I wonder how many versions we're getting in Sumeru. After the latest area, we've got to be getting down to the end, right? Inazuma was 3 islands, then 2, then 1 more, then Enkanomiya. Sumeru was rainforest, then 3 regions of desert, then 1 more, then 1 more. Has to be roughly equal, right? Unless they're going to jam us with a Mondstadt festival and another trip to the Golden Apple Archipelago while people play HSR.

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swordz9
05/11/23 9:52:25 AM
#217:


I think 3.8 is the last Sumeru patch? At least it sounds like after 3.8 we are heading into 4.0 Fontaine stuff. Fontaine probably gonna be live in the game around July/August
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azuarc
05/11/23 10:56:48 AM
#218:


Is that official or based on rumors?

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/11/23 12:40:44 PM
#219:


azuarc posted...
I wonder how many versions we're getting in Sumeru. After the latest area, we've got to be getting down to the end, right? Inazuma was 3 islands, then 2, then 1 more, then Enkanomiya. Sumeru was rainforest, then 3 regions of desert, then 1 more, then 1 more. Has to be roughly equal, right? Unless they're going to jam us with a Mondstadt festival and another trip to the Golden Apple Archipelago while people play HSR.

You're forgetting that the islands were smaller and clustered up in bunches to be roughly equivalent to these updates, and Tsurumi Island was really tiny.

3 islands = rainforest
2 islands = desert 1
tsurumi = desert 2
enkanomiya = desert 3

The outlier is we also got the Chasm during 2.x but it sounds like that one was in development for a looong time.

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azuarc
05/11/23 2:34:33 PM
#220:


I forgot about Chasm being in 2.x

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swordz9
05/11/23 2:48:14 PM
#221:


I think rumors for now, but 3.8 is supposed to be a Mondstadt event with Eula finally returning and Klee allegedly getting a costume skin. Sumeru initially came out in August 2022, Inazuma was July 2021 and Liyue was September 2020 so pattern wise its a safe guess Fontaine will be out between July-September range of this year.
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swordz9
05/11/23 5:55:41 PM
#222:


Cool an Acquaint Fate got me C2 Jean. I dunno how many Cs she needs to be really great though. A Dehya C wouldve been welcomed too, but Im just happy it was Diluc again
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azuarc
05/12/23 9:10:57 AM
#223:


C4 used to be the landmark constellation, because of the anemo shred, which was once virtually impossible to come by. However, C2 adds attack speed, which is not a super common stat, so in that sense it's valuable if you're pairing her with a normal attacker. There's no one team that specifically wants Jean, outside of Sunfire nonsense, but she's fine in basically any team that can flex their healer. I've seen C2 used, for example, with Eula on Broken Pines to get more attacks in before the burst pops.

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SockoressKnight
05/13/23 9:45:28 AM
#224:


Redemption Codes:

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5A92W9JZBLCH


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swordz9
05/13/23 9:51:26 AM
#225:


Kirara! Charlotte! I want both of them
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azuarc
05/13/23 5:47:32 PM
#226:


It looks like I'll finally have an opportunity (and excuse) to pull for Yoimiya.

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swordz9
05/16/23 3:16:57 PM
#227:


So Charlotte the Fontaine reporter girl from the 3.7 video is allegedly a Cryo Catalyst

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azuarc
05/16/23 7:56:44 PM
#228:


People had views of her vision that said cryo. Her weapon was anybody's guess -- wouldn't be the first time a more academic type had a bow or a sword. But our first cryo catalyst!?

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swordz9
05/16/23 7:59:30 PM
#229:


We can hope, but Id accept a short sword. Way too few of those still I care about using
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swordz9
05/24/23 6:45:29 AM
#230:


Got Kirara in 9 singles! Great success and before Fontaine launches Ill probably be sitting on 500 or more Fates
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azuarc
05/24/23 10:09:14 AM
#231:


I got her (C0) and Yoimiya in 40. I had some materials ready for both, but I'm not entirely sure what I intend to do with them once leveled.

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swordz9
05/25/23 12:46:05 PM
#232:


TCG event is live get hyped. They added a lot of new character cards this patch. Should be able to get my Kirara up to lv80 at least today and then get to enjoy artifact hell which has kept me from having built characters for ages now
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azuarc
05/25/23 2:46:12 PM
#233:


I'm actually not looking forward to the TCG stuff because I haven't touched it since the patch it debuted, and I don't wanna relearn it all over again. I didn't really have any good tactics for it to begin with, and then people started finding OTK decks, and nothing chases me from a card game faster than unstoppable combo bullshit.

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Sceptilesolar
05/25/23 3:38:50 PM
#234:


I think the OTK decks got nerfed out. I used to play Ayamiya which was terribly OP and played itself but Yoimiya was nerfed into oblivion along with the cost reducing food.

I think there might be some new busted decks, but I haven't been able to look at the new cards yet.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/29/23 11:43:36 PM
#235:


I am considering playing through this game super casually after getting into Star Rail big time. I played for a few hours about 2 years ago, and would prefer to just start over (....If you can, of course), but want to make sure I don't have some, like, super awesome character by luck of the draw that I shouldn't let go.

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PrinceKaro
05/30/23 12:01:26 AM
#236:


Chongyun + Xingqiu + the free Xiangling later on is a very good start, I would not recommend restarting.

Plus, the fact that you have 3 other characters already besides the guarantees despite being so early on that you haven't even unlocked Kaeya and Lisa yet tells me your early rolls were incredibly lucky overall.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/30/23 12:35:52 AM
#237:


Oh, huh, I guess I just assumed because they were all purple they were a bunch of normies lol. I just pulled the water dude after getting Gems from a survey reward logging in just now.

I guess I can just go through all the help glossary.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/30/23 1:08:55 AM
#238:


the water dude is, no joke, one of the best characters in the entire game

they tried to powercreep him with a 5* version that basically does the same thing, and there are still situations where you'd rather just take him. also they buff each other so he just becomes more powerful if you do get both anyways

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MrSmartGuy
05/30/23 1:25:53 AM
#239:


Yup. Xingqiu is still a total staple in a few of my fully built teams still. Not my A team, but several of my potential B teams.

I remember starting out, and in my first 20 pulls, I hit Bennett and Xingqiu and was disappointed I didn't get any of the hot 5* anime babes. Turned out those two in particular were probably better than hitting any kind of banner unit at the time. Those are both absolutely S-tier characters.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/30/23 1:30:36 AM
#240:


I've got absolutely no awareness for Genshin. Not a single name even. All I know is I want the short blue hair chick who looks like she's royalty or something, the light blue hair chick with the red horns, and the one who kind of looks like Sienna from RWBY only with longer hair and gold highlights.

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azuarc
05/30/23 10:05:48 AM
#241:


Okay, so, if you're interested in playing and willing to get on it right now, there's a guy who's in the "shop" -- which is a monthly rotation of things you can buy with one of the currencies. It's normally a total afterthought for anyone who's played the game for a while, but for the month of May, you can pick up Bennett. He pairs with Xingqiu (blue-haired water guy) and Chongyun (pale blue cryo guy), plus a fourth character you'll get for free later as one of the gold standard early meta teams...if meta matters to you. Problem is, Bennett's available for May and won't rotate back into the shop for another 5 months. (The June characters are not anything to worry about.) You'd have to rush a little over the next two days to get him that way and I always believe you should play this game on your own terms, so it might not be worth it.

Assuming you even care at all. People generally go waifu > meta or meta > waifu. Neither is right or wrong. Personally, I don't really like the characters in this meta team ("National Team") very much, and I didn't find the team very enjoyable to play at low levels when I started an alt account. By contrast, I love Beidou, your eyepatch chick, even if she's not on the same level as Xingqiu for power.

TLDR: 3 options
  • Play with a decent level of intensity today and tomorrow in order to buy Bennett out of the shop, and for the "national team"
  • Don't do that, but keep the account. Xingqiu is a great late-game character. However, due to his long cooldown and energy issues, you need to understand the game's mechanics to make him shine. Ideally, you also have a sacrificial sword (4-star gacha weapon).
  • Start fresh


Worth noting is that as you play through the story and explore the game world, you will get currency for the gacha. In fact, I'm pretty sure you get another ten-pull for free just by playing the introduction up to about level 8, so you will most definitely have more characters than just Chongyun, Xingqiu, and Beidou.

If you want to plan and save for (or swipe for) the five-star characters you listed, two of them are very good. The third, sadly, is a total flop in terms of in-game power...but the thing about Genshin is that unlike other gachas, there's no power creep. If anything, the reverse is true, TBH. And you can genuinely play through the game with any hodgepodge of four characters and succeed at mostly all of the content. So if you decide you want to play with a particular team, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

edit: I have no idea how much you'll need to work at the Bennett plan if you want to go that route. Maybe you even start with enough of that currency to grab him straight away. If this sounds like the direction you want to take, I'll explain further. I just don't want to overwhelm you with stuff you don't need to hear.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/30/23 10:10:07 AM
#242:


azuarc posted...
The third, sadly, is a total flop in terms of in-game power...

Damn, this is the one I wanted most!

But I think I'll stick with it. I can't power play over the next two days due to work, but I'm not super worried, and aesthetically I do not care for these two characters I already have and especially the Bennet guy you're mentioning, so I won't lose sleep over not getting the 3 man setup.

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azuarc
05/30/23 11:31:36 AM
#243:


Okay, if you put it that way, it makes little difference whether you start fresh or not. Maybe you'll do better on a reroll. But in terms of waifus, Beidou's still my favorite, and you've got her, too.

You could certainly start anew, play to where you'd been, see how it goes, and then flip back if you don't like the results. I just checked, and the second batch of free wishes comes at Adventurer Rank 7. So maybe play to AR7 twice -- which shouldn't be too much of a time commitment -- and compare after.

(Note: the rewards at AR7 are primogems rather than wishes. You use gems to buy wishes, but there are two types. Make sure you're pulling on the character banner, aka the one with the pink, colorful wishes.)

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dilateDChemist
05/30/23 6:00:09 PM
#244:


Stick with it. Restarting will just waste time.

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PrinceKaro
05/30/23 6:49:54 PM
#245:


azuarc posted...
Okay, so, if you're interested in playing and willing to get on it right now, there's a guy who's in the "shop" -- which is a monthly rotation of things you can buy with one of the currencies. It's normally a total afterthought for anyone who's played the game for a while, but for the month of May, you can pick up Bennett.

A new player is not going to be get that much starglitter in such a short period of time, and what they do get is probably better spent on Intertwined Fates to hasten the acquisition of their first 5 star.

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SwiftyDC
05/30/23 8:23:39 PM
#246:


If you need help, lmk!

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UshiromiyaEva
05/30/23 9:34:56 PM
#247:


Plan to install to my phone just for dailys backup is dead in the water, 24GB noooooooo way. PS5 exclusive it is!

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azuarc
05/31/23 9:10:04 AM
#248:


PrinceKaro posted...
A new player is not going to be get that much starglitter in such a short period of time, and what they do get is probably better spent on Intertwined Fates to hasten the acquisition of their first 5 star.

I vehemently disagree with this statement. You're talking about 7 wishes for a choice 4-star. Given the power level of characters like Bennett, Xingqiu, and Fischl, being able to add them to a new account at C0 early on is vastly more valuable than earning yourself a tenth of the way toward pity. The knee-jerk reaction of "see 5 glitter, make a wish" is extremely counterproductive to all accounts, but especially when the characters in the shop have value.

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HeroDelTiempo17
05/31/23 10:56:34 AM
#249:


Yeah having 5 stars doesn't necessarily matter if you don't have their supports. When I was starting out I needed to buy Xingqiu and Bennett from the shop to really unlock my account because my first few 5*s went Qiqi, Raiden, Childe. It depends on the 5*s you get, I guess.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
All I know is I want the short blue hair chick who looks like she's royalty or something, the light blue hair chick with the red horns, and the one who kind of looks like Sienna from RWBY only with longer hair and gold highlights.

Also just fyi the game just went through a big wave of reruns to prepare for the new region so it's hard to know when these characters are going to come back. Nilou (horns) JUST finished her rerun a few weeks ago, Ayaka (or Yelan? - blue hair girls) had theirs two patches ago. And Dehya is standard (or lose 50/50) only. So you likely have quite a bit of time to prepare and pull on other banners.

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swordz9
05/31/23 10:58:44 AM
#250:


I believe the characters he meant there are Eula and Ganyu. Ganyu just had a rerun so it could be a while before she returns. Eula is just now going to be getting a rerun soon after the longest period a character has ever gone before a rerun
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