Board 8 > Which Persona game had the best Social Links outside the main party?

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Raka_Putra
12/27/22 9:41:09 PM
#1:


No SEED, Truth Seekers, or Phantom Thieves





For me, P5 > P3 > P4.


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BetrayedTangy
12/27/22 9:45:52 PM
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Easy vote for 5. They're even better than the actual party members.

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MZero
12/27/22 11:35:16 PM
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haven't played 3 but 5 > 4

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KamikazePotato
12/27/22 11:53:35 PM
#4:


BetrayedTangy posted...
Easy vote for 5. They're even better than the actual party members.


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tcaz2
12/28/22 2:01:17 AM
#5:


5 and it isn't close.

In general I think the social links got better every game.
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Thorn
12/28/22 2:34:51 AM
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Yeah, this is one of the areas I think 5 is a definite improvement over 3 and 4.

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malyg
12/28/22 4:02:54 AM
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5 >>> 3 >>>>>>>> 4
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Axl_Rose_85
12/28/22 5:41:53 AM
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4 > 3 > 5 for me

All very close. 3 has the highest highs but also the lowest lows.
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shane15
12/28/22 5:47:53 AM
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I can't remember any of the P3 links and only the Nurse from P4. Although i only played both once on release.

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Raka_Putra
12/28/22 5:49:08 AM
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Oh man how did you forget about Tanaka and his totally legit business propositions.

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Strife2
12/28/22 7:14:18 AM
#11:


Nanako and Dojima > Kawakami >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

As a whole, 4 > 5 > 3

Nozomi and that gamer kid in 5 are such fucking putzes.

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voltch
12/28/22 7:17:00 AM
#12:


Very easy decision on 5.
If 6 improves on what 5 offered I'll be shocked but delighted.

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Strife2
12/28/22 7:24:13 AM
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I would love if Social Links are voice acted from now on.

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shane15
12/28/22 7:38:35 AM
#14:


Raka_Putra posted...
Oh man how did you forget about Tanaka and his totally legit business propositions.


I played them both without a guide so hardly did most of them.

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tazzyboyishere
12/28/22 8:04:06 AM
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4 easily, 5 is the worst at this wtf?

Haven't played Royal so maybe that improves it?

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BlueCrystalTear
12/28/22 8:33:11 AM
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It's asking outside the main party. P4 has Nanako and Dojima but practically nothing else there. (P4 has the best party member S-links by far)

P5 has a very high average. Kawakami, Iwai, Chihaya, and of course Sojiro are all great. Takemi is good as well. But the party members have weaker stories overall than in P4, so I prefer P4 on the whole.

P3... has mostly terrible S-links. Mostly.

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Strife2
12/28/22 8:41:50 AM
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That's what I'm saying. Nanako and Dojima are so far ahead of every other social link in the game, it masks how...bleh the others are. Yumi's is pretty good, if a bit slow in the middle. 5 has a better average across the board (Kawakami, Hifumi, Iwai), but they still have Oda. Oda sucks donkey dick almost as much as Nozomi does. It doesn't hit the heights Nanako and Dojima have. It's true they have a severe bias being essentially NPC main cast members, but still. That story is so damn good.

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Steiner
12/28/22 9:00:22 AM
#18:


tcaz2 posted...
5 and it isn't close.

In general I think the social links got better every game.

shit. have only played 5 and while i loved the game, really loved the game, I did think the social links were really underwhelming

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swordz9
12/28/22 9:18:43 AM
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I didnt do a fair amount of 5s because most of them didnt interest me. I think I maxed Tae and Kawakami and cant even remember where I got with anyone else outside the party/story links

I suppose I could look up their social links since I dont care to replay it, but otherwise Id probably give it to 4/G
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Reg
12/28/22 9:22:52 AM
#20:


Strife2 posted...
Oda sucks donkey dick almost as much as Nozomi does.
Ok, but people using this to say P4 has better non-party links than P5 are smoking some good shit.
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Strife2
12/28/22 9:43:50 AM
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I'm also vomiting up stuff due to food poisoning right now...so you can just say I'm literally sick and ignore me. Fuck....

*Goes back to sleep*

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GANON1025
12/28/22 9:50:49 AM
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Just like most other aspects, 5 is the best

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MacArrowny
12/28/22 10:27:32 AM
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P5 is clearly the best (and probably has the worst party member S-Links, since only Futaba and Yosuke are great). P4's main advantage over P3 is that P4G adds two excellent non-party member S-Links (Adachi and Marie's were both awesome IMO) while the new P3P ones are almost all party member S-Links, plus FeMC doesn't get Maya.

P3 does have Sun/Akinari/Dying Young Man though, which is the best Social Link in the series.

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Crescent-Moon
12/28/22 10:37:04 AM
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Marie you can tell in two minutes is a shoehorned in extra character with no actual bearing on the game she's in, and it makes me not particularly care she exists.

Royal actually made the extra characters part of it's story.

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Crescent-Moon
12/28/22 10:39:20 AM
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GANON1025 posted...
Just like most other aspects, 5 is the best
Also.having only played 4 and 5, 5 definitely feels like it tried harder on social links, for what turned out to be an improvement to a lot of them overall.

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MacArrowny
12/28/22 10:44:26 AM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Marie you can tell in two minutes is a shoehorned in extra character with no actual bearing on the game she's in, and it makes me not particularly care she exists.

Royal actually made the extra characters part of it's story.
That has absolutely nothing to do with the social links. The great thing about Marie's social links is that they're almost all just hanging out with the party and having fun.

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pyresword
12/28/22 11:06:03 AM
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3 even though it did have a few stinkers.

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Crescent-Moon
12/28/22 11:14:35 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
That has absolutely nothing to do with the social links. The great thing about Marie's social links is that they're almost all just hanging out with the party and having fun.
And it feels completely unnatural to me. She's "around" some random member of the party or two in those social links, and at no other time even exists. I lost interest in her very quickly as a result.

She didn't feel like a real character because the game never had any intent of making her one. Most of the events feel the same as well, as they all cycle back to the exact same "plot point" of her memory.

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swirIdude
12/28/22 11:48:05 AM
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BetrayedTangy posted...
Easy vote for 5. They're even better than the actual party members.


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mcflubbin
12/28/22 1:28:47 PM
#30:


5 > 3 > 4 , easy.

5 is more consistent, but 3 has some of my favorites (Tower, Hierophant, Sun).

Also not enough Yoshida love itt.

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Arti
12/28/22 1:34:21 PM
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5 > 4 > 3 and it isn't even close

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kevwaffles
12/28/22 1:58:43 PM
#32:


MZero posted...
haven't played 3 but 5 > 4


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kevwaffles
12/28/22 2:01:28 PM
#33:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Marie you can tell in two minutes is a shoehorned in extra character with no actual bearing on the game she's in, and it makes me not particularly care she exists.

Royal actually made the extra characters part of it's story.
Kasumi was on so much promo material that it was hard not to know she was new, but not having played the original it took some time to catch on to Maruki being new.

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Radix
12/28/22 3:27:18 PM
#34:


3 > 4 > 5

havent played 3 in a long ass time so i may be remembering it wrong but i enjoyed most of those
dont remember much of 4 either but i remember not liking them as much as 3
5 was mostly disappointing and underwhelming. Sun was good and uh i think thats it? maybe its cause they all followed the same formula which got kinda boring

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mnk
12/28/22 3:49:19 PM
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While trying to think of my favorites, I've come to the conclusion that none of them are particularly memorable. So I guess I'm a crazyisgood vote.

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Ryokles
12/28/22 5:55:22 PM
#36:


Man as much as I love 3 the non party social links are so forgettable. 5s are easily the best

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colliding
12/28/22 9:13:49 PM
#37:


P4 > P5 > P3

1 Dojima (P4 Hierophant)
2 Nanako (P4 Justice)
3 Sojiro (P5 Hierophant)
4 Maya (P3 Hermit)
5 Tanaka (P3 Devil)
6 Iwai (P5 Hanged)
7 Gourmet King (P3 Moon)
8 Takemi (P5 Death)
9 Drunk Monk (P3 Tower)

10 Naoki (P4 Hanged)
11 Hidetoshi (P3 Emperor)
12 Mishima (P5 Moon)
13 Kazushi (P3 Chariot)
14 Kawakami (P5 Temperance)
15 Sports Bro Basketball (P4 Strength)
16 Sports Bro Soccer (P4 Strength)
17 Ai (P4 Moon)
18 Yuko (P3 Strength)
19 Chihiro (P3 Justice)
20 The Wardens (P5 Strength)

21 Maiko (P3 Hanged)
22 Drama Club Girl (P4 Sun)
23 Old Woman (P4 Death)
24 Akinari (P3 Sun)
25 Hello Nurse (P4 Devil)
26 Old Bookstore Couple (P3 Hiero)
27 Hifumi Togo (P5 Star)
28 Eri (P4 Temperance)
29 No Good Tora (P5 Sun)

30 Ohya (P5 Devil)
31 Margaret (P4 Empress)
32 Kenji (P3 Magician)
33 Chihaya (P5 Fortune)
34 Mamoru (P3 Star)
35 Keisuke (P3 Fortune)
36 Bebe (P3 Temper)
37 Shu (P4 Tower)
38 Get Smoked (P5 Tower)
39 Fox (P4 Hermit)
40 Band club girl (P4 Sun)


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Arti
12/28/22 9:51:03 PM
#38:


Wow, I've never seen anyone rank Toranosuke that low. I think he's one of the best confidants in 5, up there with Sojiro

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MacArrowny
12/28/22 10:55:32 PM
#39:


Gourmet King in the top 10 what? Thought everyone considered that one of the worst... Or maybe I'm thinking of Bebe.

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pyresword
12/28/22 11:54:18 PM
#40:


MacArrowny posted...
Gourmet King in the top 10 what? Thought everyone considered that one of the worst... Or maybe I'm thinking of Bebe.

They're both among the worst of all time.

I liked the politician a lot, definitely one of the best confidants in P5.

Overall my favorites are Nanako/Dojima and the Sun social link from P3 by a pretty clear margin. I will say P5 probably has the highest median social link quality of the 3 games though imo.

Edit: Actually "median" is the wrong term for what I'm really thinking of...what I mean is that P5 has the highest percentage of its social links "above the bar", whatever you take that to mean.

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Steiner
12/29/22 3:31:34 AM
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i've never looked at any online discourse for this p5 before and am stunned to see people talking up Sun. did not get any appeal from him at all

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KamikazePotato
12/29/22 3:32:18 AM
#42:


Tora is the best SL in P5 and maybe the series

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MZero
12/29/22 3:49:53 AM
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I'd put Tora above Ohya and that's about it

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Steiner
12/29/22 6:51:07 AM
#44:


MZero posted...
I'd put Tora above Ohya and that's about it

yeah this is the order i came up with too

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BlueCrystalTear
12/29/22 8:29:18 AM
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Ohya is probably the weakest S-link on P5, yeah. Her parts before her link starts are better than anything in her link.

Shinya is also below Yoshida. But I can't think of any others. Yoshida is pretty cool, but his story is lacking compared to many others. Even so, I prefer Yoshida to roughly half of the P3 NPCs and at least a third of P4's. And I played them in order.

P3 does have Sun, yes. But a lot of the others are lacking complexity and some are poorly written. P4 has some that are strong and others that are weak - Eri is the worst, but Shu and band club are also pretty terrible (there's a reason I always pick drama).

But still... who the fuck puts the Gourmet King in their top 10? He's in my bottom two.

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12/29/22 11:14:40 AM
#46:


My list is mostly based on memorability.

Gourmet King is unlikeable in an intentional way, which is better than the majority of P5's, which are basically all operating on the same Mementos-based quest template. The only reason I ranked Iwai so high is because I liked his dialogue choices.

When I was trying to remember P3 social links I immediately remembered Maya, Gourmet King,and Akinari.

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