Board 8 > Pokemon Scarlet/Violet Review Zone

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https://twitter.com/Cherrim/status/1593292235222978560?t=hzXsd61j4P_ZDZD1G5mjBA&s=19

Game Freak sticking to the rigid 3-year generation cycle despite a global pandemic causing delays and interruptions in practically every facet of life is just so dumb. 2022 should've been Arceus + DLC, with S/V coming out in holiday 2023. Even better if that meant it became a Switch 2 game.

Zigzagoon posted...

Been playing for a few hours now. It absolutely CHUGS undocked. Like at completely unacceptable levels lmao

SwSh did too but that was when Online was enabled (on the Wild Area, at least)
Any chance that this is the same problem?

Nanis23 posted...

SwSh did too but that was when Online was enabled (on the Wild Area, at least)
Any chance that this is the same problem?

We don't even know how horrible co-op is going to perform yet.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Full Dreamcast, baybeeeeee

... Which is exactly what happened to the Wii U. Nintendo isn't immune from failure.

GTM posted...

https://twitter.com/Cherrim/status/1593292235222978560?t=hzXsd61j4P_ZDZD1G5mjBA&s=19

Please tell me that's on emulator

MacArrowny posted...

... Which is exactly what happened to the Wii U. Nintendo isn't immune from failure.

But unlike Sega, Nintendo has several billions of dollars on standby.

Nintendo can fail but it will never matter.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Please tell me that's on emulator

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/8/AAeolZAAD5E6.jpg

I mean I guess I don't know if this feature works on an emulator or now.

They're claiming it's a launch Switch that has already had the day 1 patch applied.

no it would be running well on an emulator

GTM posted...

https://twitter.com/Cherrim/status/1593292235222978560?t=hzXsd61j4P_ZDZD1G5mjBA&s=19

I have been on the Internet long enough already to know that whenever a high profile game release, the Internet is full of vidoes and pictures of bugs, visual glitches, etc
And when I play the game myself I barely encounter any and realize that those are just rare cases and cherry picking

I hope that this is the same thing...

KommunistKoala posted...

no it would be running well on an emulator

I mean this too, yeah.

The entire deal with the Switch emulator is that it's way better than the actual Switch. That's was part of why that Switch Emulator slipup in that Steam Deck add was so funny: Switch emulator on the Steam deck is just straight up superior in every way to the actual Switch and does the exact same thing.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I mean this too, yeah.

The entire deal with the Switch emulator is that it's way better than the actual Switch. That's was part of why that Switch Emulator slipup in that Steam Deck add was so funny: Switch emulator on the Steam deck is just straight up superior in every way to the actual Switch and does the exact same thing.

spoken like a person who's never actually used a Switch emulator

I haven't, I don't even have a PC right now!

Just going off of word of mouth and the video of games running at high res 60 FPS that always pop up day 1 of new Switch game releases.

Two people in my Discord just cancelled their orders after I posted that Twitter link lol.

I guess time is of the essence before stuff ships, so if you're gonna do it to see how it shakes out it's gotta be now.

Bring back the sprites, all Pokemon games have looked like shit since the move to 3D I will die on this hill

Where were all these animation complainers when Three Houses released? I'm playing Three Hopes and every cutscene is just the characters standing right next to each other and making the same two or three movements. Bring back the pre-drawn portraits like they do in Persona because they know they can't afford to animate things naturally Holy shit Nintendo why are you so bad at this

Every Nintendo game has bad graphics and Nintendo insists on making their games look worse for actually no reason, yes this needed 3 separate posts, please report me for spam

tazzyboyishere posted...

Where were all these animation complainers when Three Houses released? I'm playing Three Hopes and every cutscene is just the characters standing right next to each other and making the same two or three movements. Bring back the pre-drawn portraits like they do in Persona because they know they can't afford to animate things naturally Holy shit Nintendo why are you so bad at this

People do shit talk the Animation and graphics in both 3H games! They don't look great at all.

Odd timing for this take though since Engage looks like it's going to have very expressive animation!

I mean people still stand around for supports, but...win some you lose

I would also prefer actual art for supports rather than the models, but at least the models look better than before.

Yes I'm sure the 10 minutes total of pre rendered cutscenes used for advertising in Engage will be representative of the other 50 hours of animation we see

Just having the characters standing around with the same two or three animations is still an upgrade over supports before Three Houses, where you'd just see two portraits on screen the entire time.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Just having the characters standing around with the same two or three animations is still an upgrade over supports before Three Houses, where you'd just see two portraits on screen the entire time.

This is a false take but I'm just happy I've successfully derailed the topic for at least a brief moment

Mewtwo59 posted...

Just having the characters standing around with the same two or three animations is still an upgrade over supports before Three Houses, where you'd just see two portraits on screen the entire time.

Yeah, I agree with this, honestly.

I don't know if 3 Hopes changed it but 3 Houses does have the drawn portraits. It just has the 3D models in the background also. Idk that game is ugly but the supports were never the thing that stood out to me.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/screen/full/1/9/1/1997191.jpg

Like this isn't beautiful but it's fine, I'm not sure how you make two people standing around talking look more interesting.

Ehhhh I men it depends.

I like the 2D art but it would be better if there was a large cycle of portraits to go through. Instead of just like...3 expressions in the exact same pose.

Optimally we'd have 2D portraits with like a dozen diferent pictures for every character and moving mouths.

When Silvia says she likes it rough in FE4R I want it in the most pristine quality possible.

Kenri posted...

I don't know if 3 Hopes changed it but 3 Houses does have the drawn portraits. It just has the 3D models in the background also. Idk that game is ugly but the supports were never the thing that stood out to me.

Mainly meant only the portraits would be better.

Kenri posted...

Like this isn't beautiful but it's fine, I'm not sure how you make two people standing around talking look more interesting.

You can't, which is why you just shouldn't do it.

Kenri posted...

I don't know if 3 Hopes changed it but 3 Houses does have the drawn portraits. It just has the 3D models in the background also. Idk that game is ugly but the supports were never the thing that stood out to me.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/screen/full/1/9/1/1997191.jpg

Like this isn't beautiful but it's fine, I'm not sure how you make two people standing around talking look more interesting.

The face portraits are nice (I really like the 3H artist) , but people want the full-body from the 3DS games.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I like the 2D art but it would be better if there was a large cycle of portraits to go through. Instead of just like...3 expressions in the exact same pose.

Optimally we'd have 2D portraits with like a dozen diferent pictures for every character and moving mouths.

Agree with all this tbh

Engage doesn't even have the face picture, upsetting!

From the looks of things, outside of promo art, no 2D art rendering of these characters even exists. All the Twitter promos have been models.

We've seen very little menu stuff so maybe it's in there somewhere, but the art designer is a Vtuber designer so...probably not?

The total heat death of Japanese RPGs is just coming closer and closer

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1593327251763986434?s=46&t=2ChY0BPOcCdEReaNIuIYKQ

tazzyboyishere posted...

Mainly meant only the portraits would be better.

You can't, which is why you just shouldn't do it.

My point is that it looked bad in prior games too. Remember that they had to do things like have a portrait disappear and immediately reappear to convey that they dodged a sword strike, then immediately put in dialogue like "hey! You could have killed me, flailing around with your sword like that!"

And people like the supports so you can't just "not do it"

I think the ideal is full animation but that's never happening. To me the way 3H did it is as adequate as it ever was

Kenri posted...

My point is that it looked bad in prior games too. Remember that they had to do things like have a portrait disappear and immediately reappear to convey that they dodged a sword strike, then immediately put in dialogue like "hey! You could have killed me, flailing around with your sword like that!"

This is why I like the models a lot more than the portraits. The portraits straight up made the dialogue worse because they had to sometimes describe the action they just took. Sure, like 90% of the time it's the models standing around, but when they do need an animation they can actually do it.

https://twitter.com/Patterrz/status/1593322600838533120?s=19

I saw that in the leaks, but I assumed they'd fix that in the day 1 patch. Guess I was a little optimistic!

They need to give this company more time to develop these games because god damn

That pokemon makes me angry just to look at TBH.

RikkuAlmighty posted...

https://twitter.com/dark1x/status/1593327251763986434?s=46&t=2ChY0BPOcCdEReaNIuIYKQ

I saw this picture a few days ago-
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/6/AADUNGAAD5Fg.jpg
Sorry but GTA 3 looks better :/

The way Three Houses did supports is much better than in previous games, what in the world was that conversation

https://twitter.com/Mekkkkah/status/1593371075332739072?s=19

UshiromiyaEva posted...

https://twitter.com/Patterrz/status/1593322600838533120?s=19

Honestly, this is the kind of glitch I unironically enjoy. Doesn't seem to affect anything negatively and is entertaining to look at

Best part of the game easily so far is jumping backwards and trying to get to areas you arent supposed to be yet

The graphical issues don't bother me too much. The game is a ton of fun to play so far

Yeah it's not bothering me so far, but I only just made it to the first Pokemon Center. I've caught like 25 different Pokemon already. I discovered you can catch a Wattrel right away at Nemona's private beach. They seem kinda uncommon, but if you're lucky you can get one to fly close enough to target it with ZL and throw a ball to start a fight. The one I managed to catch was level 14 (and almost killed me), but levels of other Pokemon there seem to vary all the way down to level 2. Maybe Wattrel can be that low too.

So already caught that, Fidough, and Wooper for the things I plan to use long term.

Yeah OK sorry but this is bad, I don't know if I am nitpicking because I expected it to be bad but...seriously less than 5 minutes since I started I already encountered two stupid issues that should have been caught by QA and fixed
I didn't even leave the house!

Sometimes when interacting with a object, after the text box disappears, the character just "floats" to the direction you pressed. No walking animation. It lasts barely half a second but it's noticeable

The other one is the camera in the lower part of the house when going towards the window and coming back to the front, it fails to follow the player for 2-3 seconds so I don't see my character for a few seconds
Really, what the fuck

From the first time you take control of your character after you leave the house
Literally the first time
Without even taking a single step
Moving the camera a little shows the inside of the house
Like the camera is from inside the house
Instead of actually knowing boundaries

There is no way QA didn't catch this
What the heck is this game?

Apparently this game attempts to load the entire open world at once, instead of in chunks

lol

Interacting with a character or whatever cause all the shadows to re-render (if that's even a word) and changes the placement of all shadows
What
Seriously

You know what fuck this I am uploading those vidoes and posting them so it will be easier to understand what I mean

Nanis23 posted...

I expected it to be bad

and yet you're playing it day 1

MZero posted...

and yet you're playing it day 1

I will also buy the other version because I am stupid like that

My Home Living Dex is more important than the game itself!

Nanis23 posted...

Sometimes when interacting with a object, after the text box disappears, the character just "floats" to the direction you pressed. No walking animation. It lasts barely half a second but it's noticeable

https://twitter.com/avalamaatamazik/status/1593558443549491200

Nanis23 posted...

The other one is the camera in the lower part of the house when going towards the window and coming back to the front, it fails to follow the player for 2-3 seconds so I don't see my character for a few seconds

https://twitter.com/avalamaatamazik/status/1593558396199763968

Nanis23 posted...

Moving the camera a little shows the inside of the house

https://twitter.com/avalamaatamazik/status/1593558525237755906

Nanis23 posted...

Interacting with a character or whatever cause all the shadows to re-render (if that's even a word) and changes the placement of all shadows

https://twitter.com/avalamaatamazik/status/1593558614647754756

Am I nitpicking