Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 396: America's Mid(terms)

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Well, he paid a lot for that platform.

Imagine the beauty if we see the death of Twitter and Facebook (Meta) soon.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587899771091566595?t=t_quRhOxQVB_cRKOvNchaw&s=19

Oh man I can't even imagine how many advertisers are pulling out behind the scenes to get this salty on main.

If companies oppose freedom of speech, consumers should boycott them.

It has already not been a good year for advertising companies and those who depend on advertising revenue

If Twitter actually loses advertisers during Q4, that could actually be pretty bad for them

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/status/1587529365000175619

VintageGin posted...

It has already not been a good year for advertising companies and those who depend on advertising revenue

If Twitter actually loses advertisers during Q4, that could actually be pretty bad for them

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587894226695884800?t=1qG8RiJLPfN89e_UfhWGzw&s=19

It's a wonder why advertisers might feel put off.

Lol Ill take the coffee every time thanks

How the fuck is this clown CEO of anything lol

Elon is trash but I somehow hate his fanboys way more.

He's an absolute nightmare who is doing an incredible job of undoing all the work that his PR teams have done in the past. I wish every billionaire could only be so transparent with their stupidity.

Just realized he used a public use meme generator for that shit.

Can't even make his own rage face memes!

I dont think Ill ever understand how politicians can openly announce theyll cheat/not accept election results and not just be removed from ever running for governor or anything in government again. Like theres no way to interpret that as a haha jk and that kinda shit is gonna burn this country to the ground one of these days at this rate

is Elon legitimately just melting down

Yeah he's still going at it.

I think he may be. It's looking like the amount of money he's potentially going to lose from this venture may end up staggering, even for him, and even though he'd still be richer than God the credibility hit will hurt him in the future.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

is Elon legitimately just melting down

Probably. Cost him 44 billion when he didnt really plan to buy it from the looks of it and has no fucking idea what hes doing. I hope it goes under because fuck him

Twitter dying and Elon losing tons of money is the best possible outcome. We all know something else would just come along and replace it anyway.

Right, just like how something came along and replaced tumblr

Twitter replaced Tumblr, unironically.

Unless you're implying Tumblr is still around, which, like....legally, sure.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587894226695884800?t=1qG8RiJLPfN89e_UfhWGzw&s=19

It's a wonder why advertisers might feel put off.

This is amazing, I don't care what you guys say.

I actually think paid verification isn't a bad idea, but the price is way too high.

I think if he made it $10 a year most people would have begrudgingly accepted it and it would have been an instsnt few million dollars a year

Some artists and musicians are still semi active there! >_>

Ok so whats Elons plan to avoid people paying for the false identities? Bet you a billion he doesnt have one lol

Plum - when i spend $8 on my gf's overpriced coffee, she gets caffeine and sugar, and as a result is happy.
When i use Twitter, i see people wanting to kill me and people i care about, and shitposts. I'm not spending money for either of those, unless there are other tangible benefits provided.

masterplum posted...

This is amazing, I don't care what you guys say.

I actually think paid verification isn't a bad idea, but the price is way too high.

I think if he made it $10 a year most people would have begrudgingly accepted it and it would have been an instsnt few million dollars a year

what part of it is a good idea

why does a non-public figure want to be verified? No one is looking at my Twitter and worried it might not be the real me. I just dont see what I get out of it.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

what part of it is a good idea

why does a non-public figure want to be verified? No one is looking at my Twitter and worried it might not be the real me. I just dont see what I get out of it.

Its free money. Why should verification be free?

You nailed it that its a completely unnecessary service for most people, so the people who want it are going to pay for it.

You just have to charge a small enough amount where its not worth the hassle of being unverified. 8$ a month is too high Imo

people are forgetting that Twitter isn't the only platform with verification

if this is a success congrats we've got a brand new sub trap on every form of social media, professionals don't just have to give 8 bucks a month to twitter but to all their socials

Elon the kinda guy to take over a bar and then say "wow, lots of women show up on ladies night. we should start charging them a cover, to make more money". Just a complete lack of understanding about the product you just paid $44B for.

swordz9 posted...

Ok so whats Elons plan to avoid people paying for the false identities? Bet you a billion he doesnt have one lol

I assume part of the charge pays for actual verification.

If not then lol then. Lmao even

Grimlyn posted...

people are forgetting that Twitter isn't the only platform with verification

if this is a success congrats we've got a brand new sub trap on every form of social media, professionals don't just have to give 8 bucks a month to twitter but to all their socials

I read a book recently that argued for this exact thing to protect society, that the freeness of social media is part of the problem and if it was paid instead then social media would be designed to make your life better and give you what you actually wanted instead of making your life worse by rage baiting you to prop up your usage.

Facebook for instance makes you spend less time with real friends not more, if it cost money that would change

Kenri posted...

Elon the kinda guy to take over a bar and then say "wow, lots of women show up on ladies night. we should start charging them a cover, to make more money". Just a complete lack of understanding about the product you just paid $44B for.

This is a very good analogy.

masterplum posted...

Its free money. Why should verification be free?

Because impersonation is a problem for the platform, and verification is the solution. If the fee was to deal with operating costs it would be one-time, not monthly. The reason he thinks he can get away with charging for it is that it's unintentionally become a status symbol (signifying that someone's an "important" tweeter), but if anyone can pay for it it'll lose that prestige and just signify that someone's a sucker instead.

masterplum posted...

Its free money. Why should verification be free?

You nailed it that its a completely unnecessary service for most people, so the people who want it are going to pay for it.

You just have to charge a small enough amount where its not worth the hassle of being unverified. 8$ a month is too high Imo

Verification should be free because it benefits the other users of the site more than the actual verified person.

if some guy pretending to be Lebron James is scamming people, thats a problem for the people getting scammed, not for Lebron.

The amount of money Twitter realistically can make from this scheme is pretty small relative to their annual ad revenue, but it could do actual damage to the user experience. It seems short-sighted to me.

To be fair anyone giving money to Elon is a sucker anyways

I think part of Elon's goal here is to drive leftist users off of Twitter. $8 a month from the small fraction of users with a blue checkmark is not going to suddenly make Twitter turn a profit. It's not going to make him back his $44 billion anytime soon. No, this is about pushing out people Elon thinks are illiberal.

Its still wild to see a supposed grown man and public figure post like a whiny edgy teenager.

Isn't the point to monetize the platform, that many who have blue checks marks make money on the platform in the forms of marketing and such, and that it stops the process of trying to get authorized if not a legitimate account due to the monetary cost behind it now.

Corrik7 posted...

Isn't the point to monetize the platform, that many who have blue checks marks make money on the platform in the forms of marketing and such, and that it stops the process of trying to get authorized if not a legitimate account due to the monetary cost behind it now

they already dont verify illegitimate accounts, the money doesnt help with that. Im pretty sure the verification process involves actually verifying the person is who they say they are. Theyre not giving check marks to imposters.

also, as for check mark people making money off the site, I think thats a two way street. Celebrities may use the site to market their stuff, but theyre also getting people to visit Twitter and see ads.

The users of Twitter create all of its content. Twitter needs its users more than its users need Twitter. It seems like a bad idea to ruffle the celebrity users feathers like this.

The ability to buy blue checkmarks is going to take dis/misinformation to a whole new level.

$8 to make it look like your account is official even when its not, what could go wrong.

It's such an unfathomably stupid idea by a person who absolutely does not understand the business he just purchased for 44 billion

Leafeon13N posted...

The ability to buy blue checkmarks is going to take dis/misinformation to a whole new level.

There has been nothing to indicate this is possible yet has there?

Its not like you don't have to be the person you say you are

masterplum posted...

There has been nothing to indicate this is possible yet has there?

Its not like you don't have to be the person you say you are

Blue checks who don't care about their check often change their name and profile picture to someone and say some crazy shit, it gets retweeted like a million times, and then twitter punishes them by taking it away.

Now imagine you could just pay $8 and get a new one, lol.

they should give Jaboukie his checkmark back for free

the logic on musk's end is that the loss in verification of those who need/deserve it will be offset by rando clowns online wanting to join the club but are in honesty just superfluous nobodies that don't need it like spudtoaster69

lol

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1587094505202892800

More seriously, Silver raises another angle here.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

they already dont verify illegitimate accounts, the money doesnt help with that. Im pretty sure the verification process involves actually verifying the person is who they say they are. Theyre not giving check marks to imposters.

I said the cost detracts from people trying to get verified that aren't legitimate. Meaning less manpower to verify in theory.

MoogleKupo141 posted...

they should give Jaboukie his checkmark back for free

https://twitter.com/jaboukie/status/1587967238497337345

lol

Corrik7 posted...

I said the cost detracts from people trying to get verified that aren't legitimate. Meaning less manpower to verify in theory.

You under-estimate how far people are willing to go to troll

htaeD posted...

You under-estimate how far people are willing to go to troll

You will still verify. There will just be in theory a lot less to have to verify.

masterplum posted...

I read a book recently that argued for this exact thing to protect society, that the freeness of social media is part of the problem and if it was paid instead then social media would be designed to make your life better and give you what you actually wanted instead of making your life worse by rage baiting you to prop up your usage.

Facebook for instance makes you spend less time with real friends not more, if it cost money that would change

You realize what this is actually saying is "If we remove poor people from the forum, it will be better", right?