Board 8 > YGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 5 - What does Pot of Greed do again?

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I don't think it's Poppy. Poppy's questioning was logical.

Why is cop alive and unblocked. It is a completely reasonable question to ask and if Ben claims something less absurd I'm still doubting hb's claim here.

Peace___Frog posted...

Poppy doesn't want to say another word because it'll just implicate his team more. I posted a two part thesis on him yesterday from the corrik and red interactions.
I'd love for him to claim today just so that he has less time to put together a fake, but since ben is dead to rights i understand that there's not going to be any pressure for him.

I still want to see what sort of details Poppy is going to bring to us today as promised... If any.

I mean to be clear

I'm still doubting hb's claim regardless but I know now if he's scum he's claiming scum scan on scum for a longer play

But I also think hb resolves in mass anyway (which is why I pushed for mass today)

And we absolutely 100% must mass tomorrow. Sultan included. It's not going to be gift wrapped again.

Lopen posted...

I don't think it's Poppy. Poppy's questioning was logical.

Why is cop alive and unblocked. It is a completely reasonable question to ask and if Ben claims something less absurd I'm still doubting hb's claim here.

With how poppy has played the game other than the question, and him not even replying to your explanation (which felt like you were pretty quick about, the man wouldn't have had to wait long if he was genuinely wondering!), the question comes across more as "why did my team's plan get fucked up?"

Lopen posted...

And we absolutely 100% must mass tomorrow. Sultan included. It's not going to be gift wrapped again.

Yup. Poppy first.

Hey can we not end early, thanks

Peace___Frog posted...

why did my team's plan get fucked up?

It's a bad plan I wouldn't sign off on. But if your thinking is there is an unclaimed role or spell use on board that may have screwed with a gambit to block cop then yeah that's plausible.

I would just say keep in mind that that plan is much much weaker if I am scum. Even assuming scum saw yours as a convertable vote it's still 6 to lynch. We would both need to be town or scum would have to think Corrik's poison would hit someone

In that case I think Poppy looks town because I was suggesting Poppy was the poison target.

Of course this is running with a hypothetical where I am scum which is wrong to begin with but I'm just trying to show you why Poppy is not necessarily scummish here. BCT and Abacus to me had the less organic reactions to the claim.

But if Abacus is scum scum kills hb no questions asked. So if hb is town Abacus is surely town.

In any case I'm not too worried about the hypothetical where hb is scum at this point. But just realize any gambit no matter how implausible can win scum the game here. Because they only need one mislynch.

Hbthebattle posted...

Hey can we not end early, thanks

Anything you'd like to discuss? Lopen is just filling up the topic with nonsense again, so the sooner the day ends, the sooner he shuts up.

Kirby321 posted...

Anything you'd like to discuss? Lopen is just filling up the topic with nonsense again, so the sooner the day ends, the sooner he shuts up.

Personally, i would love for poppy to show up again but i doubt that will happen.

Lopen posted...

In any case I'm not too worried about the hypothetical where hb is scum at this point. But just realize any gambit no matter how implausible can win scum the game here. Because they only need one mislynch.

I appreciate the caution.

Lopen posted...

But if your thinking is there is an unclaimed role or spell use on board that may have screwed with a gambit to block cop then yeah that's plausible.

Absolutely.

Okay I lied about one thing. It's probably not MYLO. Because I am Exodia, and I'm Third Party

I need to collect 5 cards that are pieces of Exodia that 5 different random people are holding at any time, and if I collect all 5 I fulfil my win condition. If one of these people die, I get their card, and each night I get to visit someone to take their card. I visited Kirby last night, and made up the stuff about being redirected because i knew Kirby as a horrible watch target. Kirby was not holding a card, but I already got one from Sbell's death, and from night 1 when I visited Sultan. 3 cards are still in play and could be in any combination of town or scum. I have full reason to cooperate with town because i need to be alive in order to collect these cards. My win will not stop town from winning.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I'd like to note this Lopen is giving me vibes if how he acted in King Maker, where he was scum

Yup, Lopen is acting the same way he did in the games I followed where he was scum. He's gotten wound up more and more as the game's progressed, so it's clear he can't fake it for very long.

Lopen posted...

In that case I think Poppy looks town because I was suggesting Poppy was the poison target.

These two things have nothing to do with each other. No poison was used. Corrik didn't know who was scum and who wasn't.

Lopen posted...

BCT and Abacus to me had the less organic reactions to the claim.

I've literally told zero lies this game. ZERO. For fuck's sake, people, I'm not scum and you all should know that by now. WHY do you keep thinking I'm scum, when that makes no sense? If you want to just hand scum the game so desperately, why don't you lynch me before Ben so we can get this over with and scum can take their deserved victory?

Ben, Lopen, Sultan, Poppy. That sounds viable to me.

Somebody put Ben out of his misery lmao

You can't be Exodia, Ben, because I'm Exodia, Cult Leader! Just ask Lopen. He's my masonbuddy

Lopen posted...

In that case I think Poppy looks town because I was suggesting Poppy was the poison target.

So... Poppy looks town because you thought something may happen that didn't? When we had no proof that the poison was even a thing that was used?

Haha

Kirby321 posted...

Lopen is just filling up the topic with nonsense again

Not nonsense

For the record I no longer think hb is scum. Peaf's theory makes sense with one important caveat that we would need all the roles in the game claimed to resolve.

Although I'd kinda like the ability to work through it today before hb flips. If hb is town then I don't see the harm as he and Ben are the only pieces we're going to lose before tomorrow.

I guess the only reason I'm thinking there's value and having hb present to talk through it might help avoid me being mislynched.

PunishedBen posted...

Okay I lied about one thing. It's probably not MYLO. Because I am Exodia, and I'm Third Party

I need to collect 5 cards that are pieces of Exodia that 5 different random people are holding at any time, and if I collect all 5 I fulfil my win condition. If one of these people die, I get their card, and each night I get to visit someone to take their card. I visited Kirby last night, and made up the stuff about being redirected because i knew Kirby as a horrible watch target. Kirby was not holding a card, but I already got one from Sbell's death, and from night 1 when I visited Sultan. 3 cards are still in play and could be in any combination of town or scum. I have full reason to cooperate with town because i need to be alive in order to collect these cards. My win will not stop town from winning.

Call me Weevil Underwood because I'm about to tear those cards up.

Third Party Exodia who scans guilty but wins with town? It sounds like a fun role but doesn't seem to exist, sadly :(

Like I'm suggesting mass today instead of tomorrow. Because I think if hb flips cop we lose due to me being the inertia lynch

Obv Ben is still the lynch for today but having hb here to help talk through may be helpful

Also I think it would be a really cool twist if am holding the last piece of Exodia and I need to die to collect it. So could we at least wait until I have 4 pieces and then kill me just in case that far fetched theory is correct? ):

I win independently and third party always scans guilty unless specified otherwise

ViolentAbacus posted...

So... Poppy looks town because you thought something may happen that didn't? When we had no proof that the poison was even a thing that was used?

oooh here's a theory. Ben/Lopen/Poppy/+1 scum team. With Poppy becoming disinterested in playing the game and starting to look worse and worse as he doesn't show up much, Lopen comes up with the "Corrik poisoned Poppy" theory bc it's a plausible explanation for not showing up much and people wouldn't want to lynch someone who might be dying of poison anyway

Lopen's the one who originally came up with that right? I'll have to go back and check

Lopen posted...

Like I'm suggesting mass today instead of tomorrow. Because I think if hb flips cop we lose due to me being the inertia lynch

Obv Ben is still the lynch for today but having hb here to help talk through may be helpful

Dude the only way you could possibly look good is if Hb flips scum, and that's not gonna happen.

There's no point in massing today. We gain very little that we can't just resolve tomorrow.

"If Hb flips Cop then I look bad" like ffs you might as well confess to being scum at this point

Hey hb why do you think you're alive. Do you honestly think I thought I could push your lynch through even though me and at a stretch Peaf were the only ones doubting your claim when 2 town needed to be convinced to vote you and you would presumably have another scan to help give your claim credibility?

Doesn't it seem smarter to just kill you or block you

Lopen posted...

Not nonsense

For the record I no longer think hb is scum. Peaf's theory makes sense with one important caveat that we would need all the roles in the game claimed to resolve.

Although I'd kinda like the ability to work through it today before hb flips. If hb is town then I don't see the harm as he and Ben are the only pieces we're going to lose before tomorrow.

I guess the only reason I'm thinking there's value and having hb present to talk through it might help avoid me being mislynched.

Thank you for saying that your plan for tomorrow is to continue to sow doubt about hb, and you want a better kill target tonight.

PunishedBen posted...

Also I think it would be a really cool twist if am holding the last piece of Exodia and I need to die to collect it. So could we at least wait until I have 4 pieces and then kill me just in case that far fetched theory is correct? ):

Now this is the good kind of shitposting lmfao

No Exodia for you. Get rekt scum

changmas posted...

oooh here's a theory. Ben/Lopen/Poppy/+1 scum team. With Poppy becoming disinterested in playing the game and starting to look worse and worse as he doesn't show up much, Lopen comes up with the "Corrik poisoned Poppy" theory bc it's a plausible explanation for not showing up much and people wouldn't want to lynch someone who might be dying of poison anyway

Lopen's the one who originally came up with that right? I'll have to go back and check

To my memory, yes. I originally agreed it was plausible, until i went through the d1 posts and saw that corrik was sure there would be info on han from n1. Lopen then convinced me that corrik doesn't leave hints, and corrik was just assuming that a power role somewhere would target Han.

Lopen posted...

Doesn't it seem smarter to just kill you or block you

Ben admitted to blocking hb, first off.

Secondly, don't at a stretch me here. I went through very detailed posts about why i didn't believe hb, thank you very much!

Peace___Frog posted...

Thank you for saying that your plan for tomorrow is to continue to sow doubt about hb, and you want a better kill target tonight.

Nope

Hb is town. I won't lynch him tomorrow even if he survives. Because scum needs but one mislynch, it's a viable strategy.

Peace___Frog posted...

To my memory, yes. I originally agreed it was plausible, until i went through the d1 posts and saw that corrik was sure there would be info on han from n1. Lopen then convinced me that corrik doesn't leave hints, and corrik was just assuming that a power role somewhere would target Han.

Wait, when you put it that way... doesn't it make far more sense for Corrik to motion detect Han? He didn't assume a power role would scan Han; he was the power role.

Peace___Frog posted...

Ben admitted to blocking hb, first off.

Secondly, don't at a stretch me here. I went through very detailed posts about why i didn't believe hb, thank you very much!

This is completely untrue.

You guys should lynch Peaf. If it has to be after me, go ahead

Kirby321 posted...

Wait, when you put it that way... doesn't it make far more sense for Corrik to motion detect Han? He didn't assume a power role would scan Han; he was the power role.

Exactly.

Ben, prove me wrong by telling us which of your buddies did the rb action on hb

Lopen posted...

Nope

Hb is town. I won't lynch him tomorrow even if he survives. Because scum needs but one mislynch, it's a viable strategy.

Thank you.

Lopen posted...

Nope

Hb is town. I won't lynch him tomorrow even if he survives. Because scum needs but one mislynch, it's a viable strategy.

This must be why scum keeps pushing for me and why nobody's listening.

changmas posted...

oooh here's a theory. Ben/Lopen/Poppy/+1 scum team. With Poppy becoming disinterested in playing the game and starting to look worse and worse as he doesn't show up much, Lopen comes up with the "Corrik poisoned Poppy" theory bc it's a plausible explanation for not showing up much and people wouldn't want to lynch someone who might be dying of poison anyway

This articulates why I'm starting to think Poppy is the 4th better than I can say it. Lopen was bussing Poppy!

Ben. Lopen. Poppy. Sultan. That's gotta be it. Let's start with the one who got scanned. If Ben is third party, it helps town because it's more likely that scum is just 3 people then, is it not?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

If Ben is third party, it helps town because it's more likely that scum is just 3 people then, is it not?

The fact that you are seriously considering it... bro. Come on.

Well since I'm probably dead (because not trusting third party is completely understandable and I'd be lynching me too if i was you) ........

Xenoblade 3 Mafia
or
Cobra Kai Mafia

?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Ben. Lopen. Poppy. Sultan. That's gotta be it. Let's start with the one who got scanned. If Ben is third party, it helps town because it's more likely that scum is just 3 people then, is it not?

You think it's a 4 man team and not a 3?

PunishedBen posted...

Xenoblade 3 Mafia
or
Cobra Kai Mafia

I'd be more into Cobra Kai

Ben youre claiming 3rd party now?

Did you kill one for the people day 1?

My theory for the scumteam is Ben Sultan BCT Kirby right now btw.

Guys don't entertain Ben's third party claim. Seriously!

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ben youre claiming 3rd party now?

Did you kill one for the people day 1?

No that was not me. I cant kill. I'm a pacifist :)

BCT Kirby and Sultan being the three giving the Exodia claim any serious talk only further validates my theory

impressive scum theatre there

Thst would be an interesting twist though tbh. If this is a fake claim cooodos to Ben very creative.

Exodia could easily be scum though right. Like isn't that the most powerful card combination in all of Yu-Gi-Oh?

Atleast I remember it being that way my friend got all of the peices and told me that once.

Like Exodia Godfather (since he is like the God in the game) would be amazing as well

Like oh Ben as scum collects all of the prices and gains alot of Gold or unlocks a secret power wouldn't be super surprising either

Sultan doubling down

This is Sultan faking being "incoherent" or whatever.

I refuse to believe Sultan put me on the for sure scum list unless he's day cop and I was potted yesterday. And I think that's what he was going to fakeclaim.

But I put a stop to that when I told him scan me again.

I mean I will totally same time you Lopen.