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Mr_Lasastryke
08/29/22 11:12:03 AM
#452:


i will say, to a certain extent, i get LMS. whenever i see a ben shapiro video, i'm shocked that there are millions of people who genuinely find it pleasant to listen to this guy for more than 1 second. i just never get used to it.

i guess i can control myself a little better than LMS so i don't feel the need to inform this topic every single time i get these feelings, though.

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Jakyl25
08/29/22 12:55:05 PM
#453:


https://twitter.com/nikkimcr/status/1564279852076859394?s=21&t=Arr89kd_0pXOo1ozZaM-fA

What is he even rambling about

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swordz9
08/29/22 1:04:54 PM
#454:


Ramblings of a coward shitting his pants hoping anything can save him from the consequences of his own actions
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Maniac64
08/29/22 1:17:41 PM
#455:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/nikkimcr/status/1564279852076859394?s=21&t=Arr89kd_0pXOo1ozZaM-fA

What is he even rambling about
He probably saw a tweet or a Newsmax report saying it was confirmed so now he thinks the FBI announced it.

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LinkMarioSamus
08/29/22 2:30:23 PM
#456:


I'm overly used to the older days of YT where I can take everything at face value.

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SirChris
08/29/22 2:43:32 PM
#457:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Georgia zone here.

Trying to wrap my head around the Republican's decision to run a jock football player who regularly just makes stuff up about himself in a race that they barely lost last time and should have a solid shot taking back with a decent candidate.

Like, I'm not complaining, Herschel is fucked, but it just seems kind of baffling. Was the R pool that bad this time around?

Maybe they looked at MTG's win and wanted to go in that direction, forgetting that she wasn't actually voted in and won by default.

Oh wow, we both live in Georgia. That's neat.

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Thorn
08/29/22 4:05:27 PM
#458:


Jakyl25 posted...
What is he even rambling about
Zuckerberg went on Rogan's podcast and Rogan asked if Facebook "censored" the Hunter story and Zuckerberg said the FBI had approached FB and warned them to be on the lookout for propaganda and that the Hunter story "fit the pattern."

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Suprak_the_Stud
08/29/22 4:08:11 PM
#459:


Zuckerberg went on Rogan's podcast

Wow thats a not fun combination of words

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Thorn
08/29/22 4:09:24 PM
#460:


no it isn't

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LightningStrikes
08/29/22 4:16:13 PM
#461:


Facebook is famously dreadful at policing its content, but I can say with some knowledge that they often outright refuse to remove potentially harmful content (not just propaganda but also things like footage of terrorist attacks where controlling information is really important for both safety and the families of the victims) even when asked by the police. The notion that they would censor something real is laughable.

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LordoftheMorons
08/29/22 6:39:09 PM
#462:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/nikkimcr/status/1564279852076859394?s=21&t=Arr89kd_0pXOo1ozZaM-fA

What is he even rambling about
Truly a superpower that he has like a hundred million people convinced that he isnt a whiny loser despite constantly saying stuff like this

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Kenri
08/29/22 7:06:42 PM
#463:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Truly a superpower that he has like a hundred million people convinced that he isnt a whiny loser despite constantly saying stuff like this
Conservatives don't judge people by their actions, they judge actions by their people.

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Mr_Lasastryke
08/30/22 7:20:25 AM
#464:


sorry for bringing up a youtube rando, but i just saw that matt walsh made an insane video called "debunking gay marriage" about a month ago. his arguments are basically "marriage has been between a man and a woman for thousands of years" (completely false) and "it can only be marriage if the couple can procreate" (so what about a marriage between a man and a woman where one of them is infertile?).

but the reason i wanted to bring this up is literally EVERYONE in the comments is disgreeing with him lol. maybe there's some hope for humanity after all!

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Paratroopa1
08/30/22 7:21:33 AM
#465:


Believe me, Matt Walsh has an uncomfortable number of supporters
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LightningStrikes
08/30/22 7:32:56 AM
#466:


The only thing that gives me slight relief about the existence of Matt Walsh is that he is a secular person with an entirely religious backing making fundamentally religious arguments dressed up as secular ones, his arguments have absolutely failed to cut through into secular spaces.

Anyway,

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/29/us-civil-war-fears-poll

40% of Americans feel that a civil war is likely within a decade. This is fine.

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AriaOfBolo
08/30/22 9:39:30 AM
#467:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Believe me, Matt Walsh has an uncomfortable number of supporters


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LinkMarioSamus
08/30/22 1:30:23 PM
#468:


If another civil war took place, it would involve like a rogue faction instead of how it happened in the 1860s. If it wouldn't just be violence between people of different, gasp, political alignments.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/30/22 3:40:28 PM
#469:


A civil war is practically impossible in this country. Quality of life is too high for most people to be interested, and the country is too bloated to properly break apart. Our police are militarized and our military is big. National guard itself has enough equipment to stamp down most with force.

Most states would shut down the moment they lose access to food from other states. Especially access to California.

And then you have the problem of who the rebels are even fighting against. Police who are politically aligned with the rebels but just doing their job? Local governments who don't really have power to do much anyway? Left-wingers who are also satisfied enough with life to just throw a white flag and ask to not be involved?

There's also that big states aren't split along party lines enough. Might have this slightly wrong, but California, bastion of the blue, has more Republicans in it than any other state.

It would take an intentional schism in the military to lead to any real chance at civil war. And as we've seen with 1/6, even the assholes who will take action are mostly buffoons and won't actually take that much action.

Anybody who acts alone, like the guy that shot up Cincinnati, will just get shot in return.

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red_sox_777
08/30/22 3:58:51 PM
#470:


Keep in mind Lincoln wasn't on the ballot in 10 Southern states and got 1% in Virginia. We are nowhere near 1860 levels of geographical division.

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Xeybozn
08/30/22 4:28:59 PM
#471:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
And then you have the problem of who the rebels are even fighting against. Police who are politically aligned with the rebels but just doing their job? Local governments who don't really have power to do much anyway? Left-wingers who are also satisfied enough with life to just throw a white flag and ask to not be involved?

You've got it backwards. If there was somehow going to be a big civil war in the US (not happening), the "rebels" would probably be blue states fighting against a GOP-controlled federal government.

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LightningStrikes
08/30/22 4:30:58 PM
#472:


I think people are thinking about it the wrong way. You would not have states fighting against each other. Instead it would be small cells fighting a constant guerilla war. That is much, much more likely.

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Xeybozn
08/30/22 4:44:45 PM
#473:


Well yeah, "The Troubles: US Edition" is the more likely path for politically-motivated violence to escalate. But if there was going to be a serious rebellion/secession attempt, there's no way the right would start it.

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XIII_Rocks
08/30/22 4:56:53 PM
#474:


Gorbachev dead

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UshiromiyaEva
08/30/22 5:06:24 PM
#475:


more like gorbadead m I rite o/

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KamikazePotato
08/30/22 5:45:32 PM
#476:


The capital of Mississippi can't drink water, by the way.

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LordoftheMorons
08/30/22 5:47:23 PM
#477:


XIII_Rocks posted...
Gorbachev dead
https://twitter.com/numbersmuncher/status/1564719570061086735?s=21

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UshiromiyaEva
08/30/22 5:49:06 PM
#478:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/numbersmuncher/status/1564719570061086735?s=21

To be fair, at this point in time Pizza Hut pan pizza was actually good enough to justify fealty towards your leader for allowing it.

No longer the case sadly....

...Because the pizza is way worse than it used to be, of course.

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masterplum
08/30/22 5:50:15 PM
#479:


LightningStrikes posted...
I think people are thinking about it the wrong way. You would not have states fighting against each other. Instead it would be small cells fighting a constant guerilla war. That is much, much more likely.


Alternatively I could see military backed January 6th insurrection

No idea how that shakes out

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Jakyl25
08/30/22 6:07:42 PM
#480:


https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1564718273702363147?s=21&t=xNo04Tz1MQo_8fFXQo7t7g

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HanOfTheNekos
08/30/22 6:13:29 PM
#481:


Xeybozn posted...
You've got it backwards. If there was somehow going to be a big civil war in the US (not happening), the "rebels" would probably be blue states fighting against a GOP-controlled federal government.
Not a chance. Militant anti-government mindsets are more found on Conservatives. Leftist sides more likely to leave/clutch their pearls while accepting their good-enough lifestyle.

LightningStrikes posted...
I think people are thinking about it the wrong way. You would not have states fighting against each other. Instead it would be small cells fighting a constant guerilla war. That is much, much more likely.
What cells and why? From one side, sure. But for the civil war to look like this, you'd actually need the fed to break down and apart.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/30/22 6:15:37 PM
#482:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1564718273702363147?s=21&t=xNo04Tz1MQo_8fFXQo7t7g

I legitimately do not believe this is real, I need a direct link.

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Jakyl25
08/30/22 6:39:34 PM
#483:


Heres someones screenshot

https://twitter.com/maybejohnfunk/status/1564739437690486785?s=21&t=8W5kejCEdfo969hx7rfbYw

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ChaosTonyV4
08/30/22 7:51:39 PM
#484:


https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1564345841682358272?s=21&t=m41ZXHMy2VdckLspCUIFFA

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LordoftheMorons
08/31/22 7:54:23 PM
#485:


https://twitter.com/eggerdc/status/1565105979531972611?s=21

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Thorn
08/31/22 8:17:28 PM
#486:


Alaska had a special election for its at-large (statewide) house seat a few weeks ago. It was ranked choice voting which is why it didn't go final until today but lmaooooooooo

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1565130364905037825

(Kornacki here has a typo. Begich was also a Republican)

In the first round the Dem was ahead by a surprising amount with Palin in second. Now after RCV sorted itself out, Palin loses and the Dems flip the seat.

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LordoftheMorons
08/31/22 8:21:08 PM
#487:


Wow, Palin just barely got over half of the reallocated votes of the other Republican

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1565131292169084928

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UshiromiyaEva
08/31/22 8:27:52 PM
#488:


We're people even paying ATTENTION to this election?? Dint get the impression it was even worth monitoring.

Fucking wiiiiild.

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Thorn
08/31/22 8:37:04 PM
#489:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
We're people even paying ATTENTION to this election?? Dint get the impression it was even worth monitoring.

Fucking wiiiiild.
Before the election? No, and any insinuation that it might be interesting was laughed off.

That night (15 days ago) when we had the first round that showed Peltola ahead by a pretty wide margin and very quickly it became "Uhhhh... that might actually be good enough to survive the RCV reallocation of the Begich's votes."

Peltola becomes the first native Alaskan to serve in the US House. (Also the first Dem to win Alaska's House seat in 50 years)

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Xeybozn
08/31/22 8:45:35 PM
#490:


It's pretty much a lock that the GOP takes the seat back in November, right? Like, this is interesting as yet another example of the GOP underperforming post-Dobbs but won't have any real impact by itself.

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Thorn
08/31/22 8:50:32 PM
#491:


Probably, but who knows.

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KamikazePotato
08/31/22 9:05:08 PM
#492:


Xeybozn posted...
It's pretty much a lock that the GOP takes the seat back in November, right? Like, this is interesting as yet another example of the GOP underperforming post-Dobbs but won't have any real impact by itself.
The real impact is that this is going to make headlines and result in more momentum for the Dems.

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masterplum
08/31/22 9:10:06 PM
#493:


KamikazePotato posted...
The real impact is that this is going to make headlines and result in more momentum for the Dems.

Maybe. Could also swing the other direction. Momentum is weird

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Mewtwo59
08/31/22 9:11:13 PM
#494:


Thorn posted...
Peltola becomes the first native Alaskan to serve in the US House. (Also the first Dem to win Alaska's House seat in 50 years)

To be fair, all 50 of those years were served by one guy.

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Thorn
08/31/22 9:17:39 PM
#495:


...Or maybe it's not so certain?

Wassermann has moved the seat from Likely R to Toss Up in the wake of this.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1565139327201542145

Infighting already starting on the GOP side with Palin calling for Begich to drop out of the November election and Begich saying this result shows that a vote for Palin is essentially a vote for Peltola. LOL maybe they really will blow it.

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LordoftheMorons
08/31/22 9:25:03 PM
#496:


I'm sure some of it was Dobbs, but also a Dem never would have won it if it wasn't Palin on the ballot

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Forceful_Dragon
09/01/22 2:25:48 AM
#497:


Was that SFF or LFF?

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LightningStrikes
09/01/22 12:40:47 PM
#498:


Palin and Peltola LFFd Begich. Palin never had a chance to win, shes too unpopular. My understanding about Begich is that hes a moderate Republican from a Democratic political dynasty. One on one Begich beats both of them. Peltola beats Palin. The way Republicans can win the November election is tactically voting Begich so Palin is eliminated. As it stands Peltola will win again if Begich doesnt pass Palin.

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NFUN
09/01/22 12:50:59 PM
#499:


pretty sure LFF doesn't work on ranked choice ballots...

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Reg
09/01/22 1:09:21 PM
#500:


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pretty sure LFF doesn't work on ranked choice ballots...
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