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Jakyl25
08/09/22 11:02:25 AM
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A bit more obscure reference but I love it

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ChaosTonyV4
08/09/22 11:18:41 AM
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https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1556856465847189504?s=21&t=l_e_6EBi__GSO07zBISVDw

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LinkMarioSamus
08/09/22 11:37:42 AM
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The stupid thing is I wasn't even entirely joking when I said white women can go to heck. At least regarding America anyways. Doesn't help that I've barely spent any time with white American women at all so now I really am getting the impression they're mostly a bunch of Karens.

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paperwarior
08/09/22 11:43:55 AM
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Re: the title, I know it as the origin of Sim City.

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red_sox_777
08/09/22 11:45:36 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
The stupid thing is I wasn't even entirely joking when I said white women can go to heck. At least regarding America anyways. Doesn't help that I've barely spent any time with white American women at all so now I really am getting the impression they're mostly a bunch of Karens.

There are something like 100 million white women in America. If you've barely spent any time with any, how about you don't make broad sweeping statements like this?

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StartTheMachine
08/09/22 11:48:05 AM
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LMS stop ruining a beautiful moment in politics containment topic history

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LinkMarioSamus
08/09/22 12:08:55 PM
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Okay sure, I guess more thinking out loud. Started as an observation that a woman of color would be more likely to become POTUS than a white woman. Guess I could have phrased it better though, maybe falling for more right-wing paranoia.

Doesn't help that I did see postmortem analyses of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential bid which did attribute in part her perception as a 'white woman'. Plus I've seen statistics that most white women in America are Republican.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/09/22 12:12:16 PM
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LMS, I know you want to be a part of the conversation and you're still trying to find your voice, but you need to understand that you tend to not add anything when you chime in.

Save your remarks for actual personal connections and don't feel such a need to chime in and you'll find less backlash to your posts.

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LinkMarioSamus
08/09/22 12:17:54 PM
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Fair enough.

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Mr_Lasastryke
08/09/22 1:14:24 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
LMS, I know you want to be a part of the conversation and you're still trying to find your voice, but you need to understand that you tend to not add anything when you chime in.

Save your remarks for actual personal connections and don't feel such a need to chime in and you'll find less backlash to your posts.

in addition to this, you should delete that post about white american women because... wow

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ChaosTonyV4
08/09/22 1:23:00 PM
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https://twitter.com/eladnehorai/status/1556831342964273152?s=21&t=ZSJViB3ZFw6YSxi59FVD4Q

If you live in a red area and theres any chance of your GOP neighbors knowing youre left, time to start taking this stuff seriously, you never know whos going to snap.

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masterplum
08/09/22 1:29:39 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/eladnehorai/status/1556831342964273152?s=21&t=ZSJViB3ZFw6YSxi59FVD4Q

If you live in a red area and theres any chance of your GOP neighbors knowing youre left, time to start taking this stuff seriously, you never know whos going to snap.

This is total fearmongering

I mean if you are a minority I would be vigilant, but if you are white and cis nobody is going to randomly invade your house

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kevwaffles
08/09/22 1:35:28 PM
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If you're worried about a particular neighbor today you probably should have been worried about that particular neighbor last week.

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ChaosTonyV4
08/09/22 1:48:48 PM
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masterplum posted...
This is total fearmongering

I mean if you are a minority I would be vigilant, but if you are white and cis nobody is going to randomly invade your house

Invading your house isnt exactly their style, they prefer to shoot up your local supermarkets and malls.

All Im saying is I think if you are a radical leftist in the eyes of people who consume right wing media, they literally want you dead.

Basically every right wing media figure and politician is using rhetoric calling for violence right now.

If you were at all concerned about Jan 6th, I think itd be pretty weird to be unconcerned about the future rn.

I should have taken a picture, but just the other day I saw a bumper sticker combination with one that said Are you AMERICAN or DEMOCRAT? and another that said 2nd Amendment: For enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC.

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LinkMarioSamus
08/09/22 1:55:42 PM
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Mr_Lasastryke posted...
in addition to this, you should delete that post about white american women because... wow

I deleted it but I was making a VERY broad generalization. I was going to ask what "Karen" is slang for but I've decided I don't even want to know.

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Peace___Frog
08/09/22 2:19:17 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I should have taken a picture, but just the other day I saw a bumper sticker combination with one that said Are you AMERICAN or DEMOCRAT? and another that said 2nd Amendment: For enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC.
Yeah, I've seen some qanon crazies around Pittsburgh. One of the German restaurants in town even hosted a white supremacist meeting last year. The tree of life shooter was far from a "lone wolf".

Am i personally worried about violence against me and my person? No. Am i conscious of the impact that violent rhetoric has? Of course. It's only fear-mongering if you think that feminists warning about trump's presidency leading to the downfall of roe v wade and other personal freedoms was also fear-mongering.

Our b8 moderates had no problem villifying the blm protests, though, so it's no surprise that they'd downplay actual threats.

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pjbasis
08/09/22 2:20:26 PM
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not a good game

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Leafeon13N
08/09/22 2:20:53 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...


Our b8 moderates had no problem villifying the blm protests, though, so it's no surprise that they'd downplay actual threats.
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StartTheMachine
08/09/22 3:07:14 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I should have taken a picture, but just the other day I saw a bumper sticker combination with one that said Are you AMERICAN or DEMOCRAT?"

Saw this one last week. I'm in TN so dumb shit like that isn't exactly uncommon

E: My dad used to have a "Drill Baby, Drill" bumper sticker for like 10 years

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colliding
08/09/22 4:09:58 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...


All Im saying is I think if you are a radical leftist in the eyes of people who consume right wing media, they literally want you dead.

Basically every right wing media figure and politician is using rhetoric calling for violence right now.

If you were at all concerned about Jan 6th, I think itd be pretty weird to be unconcerned about the future rn.


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Forceful_Dragon
08/09/22 9:41:41 PM
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The strings on the EV credit ate being adjusted such that the batteries must be sourced in America.

Because it's a Biden plan the conservative media is scathing about it despite that restriction not going into effect until 2024 (enough time to adjust how battery materials are sourced).

But if this was a Trump proposal they would be fellating him for putting American jobs first.

Of course a Trump "electric vehicle" credit would either be nom existent or somehow still favor oil companies...

So crazy that I'm seeing it come up so much as a big deal when it should clearly align with their normal US Jobs talking points.

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Not_an_Owl
08/09/22 10:01:12 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
So crazy that I'm seeing it come up so much as a big deal when it should clearly align with their normal US Jobs talking points.
You know damn well the only talking point Republicans care about at this point is "democrats bad".

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LordoftheMorons
08/09/22 10:10:45 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
The strings on the EV credit ate being adjusted such that the batteries must be sourced in America.

Because it's a Biden plan the conservative media is scathing about it despite that restriction not going into effect until 2024 (enough time to adjust how battery materials are sourced).

But if this was a Trump proposal they would be fellating him for putting American jobs first.

Of course a Trump "electric vehicle" credit would either be nom existent or somehow still favor oil companies...

So crazy that I'm seeing it come up so much as a big deal when it should clearly align with their normal US Jobs talking points.
Definitely true, though I think that this type of protectionism is objectively pretty bad and I wish it wasnt in the bill. Still a good bill overall, though.

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StealThisSheen
08/09/22 10:47:21 PM
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Tulsi went on Fox News to cry for Trump being a victim of a "blatant, illegal abuse of power" and that every American should be afraid because we've lost the country. She's also full in on the Trump grift now, calling every investigation into him a "hoax."

EDIT: Ukraine also officially placed her on a list of Russian propagandists. Wonder if she'll threaten to sue them.

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Forceful_Dragon
08/10/22 2:01:06 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Definitely true, though I think that this type of protectionism is objectively pretty bad and I wish it wasnt in the bill. Still a good bill overall, though.

I mean the EV credit was already a thing and it was pretty nicely optimized. I think the best change it the ability to apply the credit at the point of sale rather than having to wait a year which is probably the single best change for making EVs more accessible.

But if you're specifically referring to the sourcing of battery parts I can kinda agree but I also see the macro benefit of making a point to flesh out our own supply chain for batteries that we want to be ubiquitous.

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GuessMyUserName
08/10/22 2:33:01 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Tulsi went on Fox News to cry for Trump being a victim of a "blatant, illegal abuse of power" and that every American should be afraid because we've lost the country. She's also full in on the Trump grift now, calling every investigation into him a "hoax."
searched "tulsi trump" and up came Andrew Yang alongside her to the surprise of absolutely nobody that's had eyes on him in the last year

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Thorn
08/10/22 8:15:38 AM
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https://twitter.com/yarbro/status/1557136280785403904

Trump-appointed FBI Director enforces Trump-signed law. LOL "whoops"

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Maniac64
08/10/22 8:29:33 AM
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Haha so this is literally because of thr "but her emails/lock her up" stuff? Amazing

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LordoftheMorons
08/10/22 9:26:01 AM
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https://twitter.com/jasonfurman/status/1557352400142336002?s=21

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Peace___Frog
08/10/22 10:30:57 AM
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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/state-legislatures-are-torching-democracy

Extremely interesting, but long, article about the impact of gerrymandering on state races in Ohio.

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armitage999
08/10/22 11:12:51 AM
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Honestly surprised Tulsi hasn't flipped parties yet.
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Reg
08/10/22 11:14:54 AM
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armitage999 posted...
Honestly surprised Tulsi hasn't flipped parties yet.
Why? She's not a politician anymore, so Fox etc being able to call her a "Democrat" works better for their propaganda and grifting
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armitage999
08/10/22 12:05:01 PM
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Reg posted...
Why? She's not a politician anymore, so Fox etc being able to call her a "Democrat" works better for their propaganda and grifting

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StartTheMachine
08/10/22 12:14:01 PM
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Thorn posted...
https://twitter.com/yarbro/status/1557136280785403904

Trump-appointed FBI Director enforces Trump-signed law. LOL "whoops"
Trump's old nemesis reading strikes again

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Inviso
08/10/22 12:14:04 PM
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I mean, since she's not running for office anymore, I think she has a lot more opportunities as a "Democrat criticizing the Democratic Party", rather than "yet another Republican criticizing the Democratic Party". It's why people like Milo, and Candice Owens are so much more valuable to the GOP and FOX.

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GuessMyUserName
08/10/22 12:38:04 PM
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yeah you can easily find right-wingers cheering on Tulsi and Yangs statements as "even Demecrats see this madness!"... even ignoring the fact Yang has already formed a new partythey still label him a democrat because they want their little hit of confirmation bias wherever they can get it

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Suprak_the_Stud
08/10/22 12:50:35 PM
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Yep, that's 100% part of the grift.

It's all Steve Buscemi "hello fellow kids" level of credibility, but see you a lot of "I'm not a democrat, I'm a leftist and..." or "I'm not a democrat, I'm a CLASSICAL LIBERAL and..." or "I am a democrat, but the democratic party has done XYZ and..." sort of nonsense on all the common places to spread misinformation. It's all so they can point and go "oh see how 'other' the current democratic party is" by trying to convince people that Joe Biden and friends are somehow even more radical (lol) than democrats of the past.

She won't change parties because she's not an actual politician at this point or genuinely interested in passing policy. She's a misinformation machine dressed to look like a human.

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masterplum
08/10/22 12:58:20 PM
#38:


Serious question, are Tulsi/Yang really republicans or are they Democrats the same way that Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney are Republicans


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Kenri
08/10/22 1:02:28 PM
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Romney and Cheney are "very concerned" Republicans. There's certainly not any other party that fits them better.

Tulsi (and possibly Yang) are just grifters. Tulsi would turn on the alt-right tomorrow if she thought it would make her .001% more popular/wealthy. Don't see any reason to pretend she has any coherent ideology at all.

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GuessMyUserName
08/10/22 1:06:13 PM
#40:


romney is a republican the same way that literally every other republican is one

I'm particularly confused at his mention

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Suprak_the_Stud
08/10/22 1:06:47 PM
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Yeah, I believe it when Romney and Cheney say they are republicans. They've had stances counter to their party that might put their political career in some level of jeopardy (particularly Cheney), but they're republicans.

Tulsi and Yang aren't anything at this point. Like Kenri said, if they thought joining the Luddites would make them more money, they'd go on the Luddite News Network tomorrow and tell everyone to break their microwaves.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/22 1:07:04 PM
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They're Republicans the same way Romney and Cheney are Republicans

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Suprak_the_Stud
08/10/22 1:08:57 PM
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Like Romney and Cheney want republican policy enacted. They vote for almost everything other than "should we allow Trump to have sex with the Lincoln memorial" sort of bills.

Tulsi and Yang do not have any sort of interest in advocating for leftist/democratic policies. They want to go on TV and get paid money and they'll say and do what they need to to make that happen.

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Espeon
08/10/22 1:17:24 PM
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Romney and Cheney are Republicans in the sense that they hold Conservative beliefs, and largely oppose Democrats because Democratic beliefs are antithetical to what they want.

The MAGA Republicans who seem to have taken over the party are the reverse. They hate Democrats (namely how Democrats want to empower people outside of straight, white, cisgender, Christian men), and support conservative policy because that goes against Democratic beliefs.

Both sides ultimately have the same goals, its just a difference in the spite level.

Yang just seems like an out-of-touch tech bro who isnt really party-aligned, and only joined the Democratic primary because its the only option if you agree with Dems on ANYTHING.

Tulsi is very much a Republican who masqueraded as a Dem to get elected in blue Hawaii, and used that status to sandbag the Dems in 2016 and 2020.

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GuessMyUserName
08/10/22 1:17:30 PM
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like Manchin is someone that goes against Dems all the time but I wouldn't at all compare him to Tulsi/Yang's grifts

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StartTheMachine
08/10/22 1:33:18 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/09/trump-tax-returns-must-be-given-to-congress-court-says-.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-real-estate-appraiser-hands-thousands-documents-ny-ag-civil-prob-rcna42023

So much beautiful, bigly news. No one's ever seen this much beautiful news

E: Trump will be under oath in that NY civil case deposition. There is literally a zero percent chance he doesn't perjure himself

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RaidenGarai
08/10/22 1:38:29 PM
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He pleaded the 5th already.

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StartTheMachine
08/10/22 1:41:17 PM
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RaidenGarai posted...
He pleaded the 5th already.
Ah yeah. At least this article went with the correct headline!

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-pleads-fifth-after-saying-only-guilty-people-do-1732549

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swordz9
08/10/22 1:46:24 PM
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Sadly Trump can contradict himself and everything he says and his brainless base will still believe him regardless. He could literally sell them UFO insurance and theyd buy it lol
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red_sox_777
08/10/22 1:55:22 PM
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I always wonder whether the people who take a tough on crime stance just aren't able to imagine that they could be prosecuted under the same laws they support.

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