Poll of the Day > Final Fantasy XVI isn't a JRPG.

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Judgmenl
07/17/22 12:53:56 PM
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I know a lot of people seem to think it is, but every direction from Yoshi P seems to indicate it's just an action game.

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BigOlePappy
07/17/22 12:57:56 PM
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I wish they would reboot the series and go back to something incredibly simple.

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Lokarin
07/17/22 1:18:58 PM
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BigOlePappy posted...
I wish they would reboot the series and go back to something incredibly simple.

It's not Final Fantasy without Red Mage :L

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11110111011
07/17/22 4:08:00 PM
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BigOlePappy posted...
I wish they would reboot the series and go back to something incredibly simple.

Agreed. It's become increasingly convoluted.
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Garlands_Soul
07/17/22 4:15:21 PM
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BigOlePappy posted...
I wish they would reboot the series and go back to something incredibly simple.
Same. Bravely default was close to that

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captpackrat
07/17/22 5:51:17 PM
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They remade Final Fantasy Adventure (Adventures of Mana), I wish they'd remake the Final Fantasy Legend series as well.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/3/AAQwHjAADdrt.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/4/AAQwHjAADdru.jpg


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adjl
07/17/22 8:02:53 PM
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Can it not be an action JRPG?

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Entity13
07/17/22 10:39:53 PM
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captpackrat posted...
They remade Final Fantasy Adventure (Adventures of Mana), I wish they'd remake the Final Fantasy Legend series as well.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/3/AAQwHjAADdrt.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/4/AAQwHjAADdru.jpg

SaGa 2 and 3 were remade at one point and never localized. They were also not 1 for 1 in various design choices.

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agesboy
07/17/22 10:58:29 PM
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captpackrat posted...
They remade Final Fantasy Adventure (Adventures of Mana), I wish they'd remake the Final Fantasy Legend series as well.
which one was sword of mana a pseudo-remake of again? because sword of mana was the shit and both of those franchises confuse the hell out of me with how their localized names turned out

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JigsawTDCII
07/17/22 11:01:56 PM
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agesboy posted...
which one was sword of mana a pseudo-remake of again? because sword of mana was the shit and both of those franchises confuse the hell out of me with how their localized names turned out

Sword of Mana was also a remake of Final Fantasy Adventure
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AltOmega2
07/18/22 9:03:35 AM
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I'll play it before I pass judgement.
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Far-Queue
07/18/22 9:24:14 AM
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adjl posted...
Can it not be an action JRPG?
It certainly can, but some people have weird hangups with this shit.

You gotta evolve, or risk becoming stale and redundant. But you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's the same with music and movies.

There will always be fans who look to their favorite from an artist or studio and put that up on a pedestal, and measure every subsequent release against their favorite.

I'm someone who can appreciate when devs try new ideas and otherwise evolve the formula. I can be impartial and evaluate each entry on its own merits, and not expect them to do the same shit over and over because it worked so well that one time. But lots of people can't for whatever reason. If they want to play the same shit over and over, just play the favorite and ignore the noise

We also should take this topic with a huge grain of salt, because this is pretty much Judg's gimmick

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Revelation34
07/18/22 9:43:18 AM
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Far-Queue posted...

It certainly can, but some people have weird hangups with this shit.

You gotta evolve, or risk becoming stale and redundant. But you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's the same with music and movies.

There will always be fans who look to their favorite from an artist or studio and put that up on a pedestal, and measure every subsequent release against their favorite.

I'm someone who can appreciate when devs try new ideas and otherwise evolve the formula. I can be impartial and evaluate each entry on its own merits, and not expect them to do the same shit over and over because it worked so well that one time. But lots of people can't for whatever reason. If they want to play the same shit over and over, just play the favorite and ignore the noise

We also should take this topic with a huge grain of salt, because this is pretty much Judg's gimmick

Yep that to the Dragon Quest series.

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Judgmenl
07/18/22 10:30:10 AM
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adjl posted...
Can it not be an action JRPG?
I'm fine with this if the game has any RPG elements in it. So far I'm not sure if it does.
I think the "Action RPG" genre needs to go away. "Action" and "RPG" are two totally different things.

Far-Queue posted...
We also should take this topic with a huge grain of salt, because this is pretty much Judg's gimmick
Yup. Been for the past decade or more.

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SoreChasm
07/18/22 10:35:09 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
think the "Action RPG" genre needs to go away. "Action" and "RPG" are two totally different things.
I don't know...Fromsoft does a pretty good job combining the two.

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Dikitain
07/18/22 10:37:56 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
I'm fine with this if the game has any RPG elements in it. So far I'm not sure if it does.

I think the "Action RPG" genre needs to go away. "Action" and "RPG" are two totally different things.

I would argue that "RPG" doesn't really exist anymore and has been absorbed into other genres.

What game that comes out nowadays doesn't have RPG elements? Hell, most sports games are more RPGs than any Bethesda game created in the last 20 years.

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papercup
07/18/22 11:28:35 AM
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I mean you can clearly see that character level is a thing in the second trailer, and Yoshi has said there are party members but you won't be able to control them. And it's a story focused Final Fantasy game. Sounds like a JRPG to me. Maybe just not what I was expecting FFXVI to be. But I'm still very excited for it.

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Revelation34
07/18/22 11:54:54 AM
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papercup posted...
I mean you can clearly see that character level is a thing in the second trailer, and Yoshi has said there are party members but you won't be able to control them. And it's a story focused Final Fantasy game. Sounds like a JRPG to me. Maybe just not what I was expecting FFXVI to be. But I'm still very excited for it.


Oh that trash system again.

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papercup
07/18/22 11:57:45 AM
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I mean if they can make Clive's combat varied and fun, I think it'll be fine.

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adjl
07/18/22 1:06:42 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
You gotta evolve, or risk becoming stale and redundant.

Yes and no. Bringing in new ideas to keep things interesting is necessary, but that doesn't mean having to go through full genre changes. Squenix was genuinely surprised that Bravely Default was as popular as it was because they'd spent so many years telling themselves that nobody wanted plain old turn-based RPG's anymore, but the reality is that many of the FF series fans would have been quite happy to stick to something more traditional than the radically different direction it's gone. Some degree of evolution is needed to keep things from becoming stale, but change for change's sake runs the risk of leaving behind perfectly good ideas in an obsessive chase for progress.

Judgmenl posted...
I think the "Action RPG" genre needs to go away. "Action" and "RPG" are two totally different things.

Not at all. Action games can have plenty of room for character growth and customization, no less so than turn-based ones. You can want more turn-based RPG's if that's your preference, but that doesn't mean Action RPG's shouldn't exist, nor that the genres (not that I really call "RPG" a genre of its own anymore) are in any way incompatible.

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Garlands_Soul
07/18/22 1:08:05 PM
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I agree with everything adjl said

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vycebrand2
07/18/22 1:32:50 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Oh that trash system again.
12 sure. 13 no thanks

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