Board 8 > Could Donkey Kong defeat the 1985 Chicago Bears in a fight?

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rwlh
07/09/22 6:43:52 PM
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as nominated @MoogleKupo141

Arguments for the Bears:
  • they are consistently ranked among the greatest NFL teams of all time
  • they are a well-oiled machine of teamwork and quick thinking
  • as with Pokemon Trainer Red, head coach Mike Ditka might give instructions from the sidelines


Arguments for DK:
  • can a bunch of above average humans really take down a massive gorilla?
  • we've already established gorilla > bear (see Kuma topic)
  • if DK brings Engarde the dolphin into the fight, it's gonna hurt


Last topic Shepard defeated DK with ease. Today is a more...interesting opponent, DK's first fight against a non-video game character. The 1985 Bears are consistently heralded as one of the greatest football teams of all time, but will that translate that into a different kind of offensive success? Is this an example of the age-old question "how many kindergartners can an adult human take down" at once, or can these Bears bite back?
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LordoftheMorons
07/09/22 6:58:13 PM
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Based on my experiences using DK for 100-Man Melee, yes

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-hotdogturtle--
07/09/22 7:01:30 PM
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rwlh posted...
Is this an example of the age-old question "how many kindergartners can an adult human take down" at once
I'd say yes because DK could easily beat a single professional football player 1v1.

It becomes a question of how much they can team up on him. How many players would it take to pin him down?

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MoogleKupo141
07/09/22 7:15:43 PM
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I think if they dont worry about casualties, theyll manage to wear him down. Singletaty and McMahon may get fucking obliterated in the process, but The Fridge is going to end up standing on top of a dead gorilla.

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WickIebee
07/09/22 7:17:47 PM
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Unlike something like with Red, there isn't like an Allv1 situation that can happen here. These are neither peak humans, nor can they really have everyone just tackling DK. Also hell, they'd have to keep them down there and I mean, look at Steve McMichael's wrestling career.

It's truly, what constitutes them beating DK? If all they had to do was tackle him to the ground maybe, but bets are DK can take 6-10 strong, but not supernaturally strong, humans at once constantly, which is about how many Ditka could throw at him at a time. And only one player realistically has a ranged attack, and throwing a football does not pack the same kind of punch that DK's coconut guns can.

So DK for sure.

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X_Dante_X
07/09/22 7:23:34 PM
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BlueCrystalTear
07/09/22 7:39:33 PM
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The Bears still suck, so yes. DK wins.

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Leonhart4
07/09/22 7:40:42 PM
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If they develop a strategy and work together, they could eventually wear him down, I think. It's 52 men in peak physical condition (for the most part) against one gorilla.

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Leonhart4
07/09/22 7:40:59 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
The Bears still suck, so yes. DK wins.

It's not the 2022 Bears. It's the 1985 Bears.

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Xeybozn
07/09/22 7:46:02 PM
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Bears better not start no trouble, or DK's gonna do the Murder Bears Shuffle .

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masterplum
07/09/22 8:31:33 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
If they develop a strategy and work together, they could eventually wear him down, I think. It's 52 men in peak physical condition (for the most part) against one gorilla.

I think this is the real sticking point. If it was 52 unorganized NFLers I would say no, but this includes tactical coaching.

I think donkey falls after killing 40 of them or so

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jcgamer107
07/09/22 8:32:27 PM
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Bears 66, Donkey Kong 3

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NFUN
07/09/22 8:47:31 PM
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Donkey Kong 35, Bears 1

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Hbthebattle
07/09/22 8:49:28 PM
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I dunno, 1985 is a lot of bears :)

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Leonhart4
07/09/22 8:55:38 PM
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does DK get to use video game physics

if so then the Bears can use NFL Blitz physics and beef themselves up

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-hotdogturtle--
07/09/22 9:01:24 PM
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Due to physical space (and especially accounting for the fact that football players are larger than average humans), there is a finite amount of players who could be considered actively "in the fight" at any given time. So DK would most likely be fighting multiple waves of players consecutively. Since these are real life humans and not video game people, I trust that he would be able to take on a group of them at a time. And since we're only talking about a few dozen people at most (not like a hypothetical 1,000,000 or something), endurance between waves isn't a major factor to worry about.

DK wins by taking them out one by one or group by group.

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LiquidOshawott
07/09/22 9:11:07 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
I think if they dont worry about casualties, theyll manage to wear him down. Singletaty and McMahon may get fucking obliterated in the process, but The Fridge is going to end up standing on top of a dead gorilla.

Theyre in helmets and pads right

that could maybe give them some protection if they all blitz at once

But then again DK has Down B


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MoogleKupo141
07/09/22 9:21:47 PM
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canonically DK gets knocked out if a beaver walks into him

i think any member of the bears could handle that

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swirIdude
07/09/22 9:42:19 PM
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DK could. Go. All. The. Way! To victory.

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Lopen
07/09/22 9:49:05 PM
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The bottleneck of people who can get to DK is overplayed here. You can probably get like 20 Bears dragging DK down at once if you work every angle and have some guys going low to take out the legs. More than enough to take him down-- DK probably cant handle more than like 4 at once, and Football line coordination is exactly the right strategy to use here.

Basically it is the kindergartener problem in some ways but they're going to default to the best strategy unlike kindergarteners, have higher pain tolerance than kindergarteners/pads, and I dont think DK is going to be tactical here.

Bears win.

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azuarc
07/09/22 10:27:52 PM
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NFUN posted...
Donkey Kong 35, Bears 1


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Leonhart4
07/09/22 10:30:48 PM
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Ineligible vote as that's not a possible football score

Bears win

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Pokewars
07/09/22 10:34:59 PM
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DK wrecks them without breaking a sweat.

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swirIdude
07/09/22 11:01:34 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Ineligible vote as that's not a possible football score

Bears win

DK insisted that they play using Canadian Football rules.

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MZero
07/09/22 11:02:09 PM
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Da Bears win

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MrGreenonion
07/09/22 11:59:52 PM
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DK can just wind up his neutral B punch while they're running downfield at him and KO a bunch of them at once

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CaptainOfCrush
07/10/22 12:24:50 AM
#28:


Is Donkey Kong behaving like a wild animal or silly cartoon character?

Eh either way he mops the floor. Large animals are just too much for even groups of people, and I assume DK in this situation is much bigger and stronger than the average gorilla.

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WazzupGenius00
07/10/22 12:28:58 AM
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The only way I see the Bears winning is if they all use their helmets as weapons and manage to beat him to death. But I'm honestly not sure if they would be able to win against a real-life gorilla

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Aecioo
07/10/22 12:45:23 AM
#30:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
The only way I see the Bears winning is if they all use their helmets as weapons and manage to beat him to death. But I'm honestly not sure if they would be able to win against a real-life gorilla

Myles Garrett is not on the 85 bears

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Kamekguy
07/10/22 1:57:12 AM
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Donkey Kong

This is just a DK64 battle arena. I think weird crocodile men are tougher than regular buff dudes with padding, Kritters all have 8/10 power in Mario Super Sluggers, and Kasplats are presumably above that.

Also he gets some damn good distance when he punts Mario here, I think his field goal game is on point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvuLzJU3Q0#t=42s

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MoogleKupo141
07/10/22 2:33:17 AM
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those dk64 battle arenas are hard, cant count on DK to actually win one

(I just love that theres some actual debate on this one. It was like 70% a joke suggestion, but also 30% a matchup I thought could be genuinely interesting)

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Murphiroth
07/10/22 4:41:19 AM
#33:


I doubt they could take an actual gorilla let alone DK.
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plasmabeam
07/10/22 8:24:41 AM
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DK wouldn't stand a change against that D.

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NFUN
07/10/22 9:46:38 AM
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Murphiroth posted...
I doubt they could take an actual gorilla let alone DK.
One football player is like half the weight of a gorilla on average, including running backs. Linemen are obviously even closer. Fifty determined players would easily be able to take one. Even five probably could

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Leonhart4
07/10/22 10:17:26 AM
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Yeah, as long as they go into it with the mindset that at least one of them will probably die (or at least be horribly injured) in the effort, they'd be able to prevail eventually.

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Suprak_the_Stud
07/10/22 11:18:45 AM
#37:


Bears solo

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_Kaz
07/10/22 12:19:08 PM
#38:


What happens when hammers are involved?

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X_Dante_X
07/10/22 12:21:23 PM
#39:


the 1985 chicago bears may think they have a fantastic strategy lined up to take out a gorilla, but they'll just be priming themselves for a devastating orange grenade

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charmander6000
07/10/22 1:13:38 PM
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Once DK gets mobbed, it is pretty much over. Also unlike the adult vs. 5 year olds, the Bears will have a strategy and weapons (helmets and cleats). No doubt DK takes out a few of them, especially since he has a coconut gun, but football teams are massive and it won't take too much time before he gets swarmed.

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Arti
07/10/22 1:15:07 PM
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Bears win this one easily

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Johnbobb
07/10/22 1:20:45 PM
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Bears assuming they're all equipped with baseball bats

If the Bears are unarmed, then it goes to DK easy

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KJH
07/10/22 1:37:26 PM
#43:


DK solos. Tropical Freeze's first stage shows he can straight up break an airplane in two casually, even a dogpile on him would just result in him flinging them off full force.

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Leonhart4
07/10/22 1:38:56 PM
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DK can also be knocked out by an animal walking into him

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rwlh
07/10/22 3:46:48 PM
#45:


Johnbobb posted...
Bears assuming they're all equipped with baseball bats

am i missing something here
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rwlh
07/10/22 5:28:01 PM
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Anyone else?
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ZeeksFire
07/10/22 6:52:16 PM
#47:


Not really, although both I'll give the fact that engarde is worthless in a non water stage, and the coconut gun wouldn't work either because they are too close shaped to footballs, and thusly easily catchable. Still think DK has the advantage with normal consideration, after all, football players weren't as big back then
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Maniac64
07/10/22 7:21:24 PM
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DK

Forget engarde, he could bring Rambi.

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redrocket
07/10/22 7:24:36 PM
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The actual stats, for reference:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/team/1985-chicago-bears-4/roster/1985

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rwlh
07/10/22 7:33:08 PM
#50:


Maniac64 posted...
DK

Forget engarde, he could bring Rambi.

Yes but Engarde is a dolphin, and the Bears only ever lost to the Dolphins.
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