Board 8 > Could Donkey Kong defeat Sabin Figaro in a fight?

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rwlh
06/07/22 9:09:57 PM
#1:


as nominated by @Underleveled

Arguments for Sabin:
  • he is skilled both physically and magically, and is capable of taking down God Kefka (albeit with help)
  • according to VS Battles Wiki, he has Space-Time Manipulation because "Magic is shown in the novels to remove concepts and warp space and time itself,[2] like the Devil's road, which the concept of time was lost,[3] and time and space were twisted to the point[4]the past, present and future[5]existed as one[6]"
  • is DK less suplexable than a train?
Arguments for DK:
  • he is probably less suplexable than a train
  • Sabin can suplex a train, but DK can punch the moon out of orbit
  • if DK shoots Sabin, it's gonna hurt


Last topic Red and his army of Pokemon managed to eke out a victory against the overwhelmed Kong, though many debaters were divided. How will our hero fare against another melee fighter?

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MoogleKupo141
06/07/22 9:24:35 PM
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yeah hes a big monkey

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MargaretAnnMid
06/07/22 9:25:49 PM
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No. Sabin can suplex trains. Also, Sabin has more HP.
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Kamekguy
06/07/22 9:56:44 PM
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The train is a ghost, it's probably not that heavy. I can probably suplex a ghost.

I am confident they would, rather than fighting, compete in increasingly ridiculous tests of strength. Which DK would win, because deadlifting a sunken ship that's mostly underwater is more impressive than holding up parts of a burning orphanage for 10 minutes.

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LeonhartFour
06/07/22 9:56:58 PM
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Sabin survived a little thing like the end of the world, so he can probably handle DK.

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Crescent-Moon
06/07/22 10:55:35 PM
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Does Sabin have anything that matches up to DK's strength feats? I don't feel like he does.

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Jakyl25
06/08/22 9:10:40 AM
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He held up that collapsing building

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charmander6000
06/08/22 10:03:22 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
He held up that collapsing building

But only for six minutes.

In a battle of strength, DK wins, Sabin's best bet is his magic abilities. How good is DK's magic resistance?

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ZeeksFire
06/08/22 10:08:37 AM
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If giving everyone everything, it's easily Sabin due to tough enough to take a hit, and magic hard countering DK. If given most ideal skills strengths/weaknesses I'd still give the advantage to Sabin, but not enough to consider it a vote without hearing more arguments.
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ninkendo
06/08/22 10:09:44 AM
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it really all comes down to how much HP of damage does a punch from DK do because Sabin is a tank and DK is a glass cannon

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Lopen
06/08/22 11:31:31 AM
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If we take Record Keeper Sabin as the best interpretation of his fighting style Sabin is a physical fire based powerhouse that specializes in generating mirror images with his techniques

If we take FF6 Sabin with all his spells he has a lot of tools here

I think either one counters DK's strength advantage pretty well here so I'll give it to Sabin

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azuarc
06/08/22 12:04:14 PM
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Poor Sabin. He thought he could climb Mt Koltz while a giant ape was chucking barrels down at him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/3/4/AAUC3iAADUUC.jpg

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Alanna82
06/08/22 12:07:37 PM
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Sabin wins.

He can suplex a train, so he can suplex DK.

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Maniac64
06/08/22 12:24:30 PM
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A gorilla is definitely more suplexable than a train. DKs body shape would allow for a variety of suplexes to be used.

Plus Aura Beam > Coconut gun.

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Underleveled
06/08/22 12:49:36 PM
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Maniac64 posted...
A gorilla is definitely more suplexable than a train. DKs body shape would allow for a variety of suplexes to be used.

Plus Aura Beam > Coconut gun.


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Hbthebattle
06/08/22 1:05:41 PM
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None of Sabins strength feats come close to the moon thing I think

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masterplum
06/08/22 1:16:14 PM
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I don't know, DK is bigger, faster and stronger too

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Cavedweller2000
06/08/22 1:53:39 PM
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DK vs Wesker (RE5 version)

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Arti
06/08/22 2:19:55 PM
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Sabin bum rushes the gorilla

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rwlh
06/08/22 8:45:48 PM
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azuarc posted...
Poor Sabin. He thought he could climb Mt Koltz while a giant ape was chucking barrels down at him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/3/4/AAUC3iAADUUC.jpg

How good is Sabin's jumping ability? Or would he simply break through any hurled barrels?

(love this picture btw!)
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GuessMyUserName
06/08/22 10:03:34 PM
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rwlh posted...
How good is Sabin's jumping ability? Or would he simply break through any hurled barrels?
Suplex is more like a Charizard Seismic Toss so pretty great

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Waluigi1
06/08/22 10:43:32 PM
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What is this moon punching feat from?

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Lolo_Guru
06/08/22 10:53:26 PM
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Waluigi1 posted...
What is this moon punching feat from?
Donkey Kong Country Returns. (cutscene after beating final boss)

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Crescent-Moon
06/08/22 11:17:56 PM
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The problem with suplexing a train as a measurement was the train was a ghost. We know he can somehow suplex ghosts, but do ghosts actually have tangible levels of weight?

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LeonhartFour
06/08/22 11:22:41 PM
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It has a tangible form, so it most likely has tangible weight.

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ZeeksFire
06/09/22 9:19:42 AM
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rwlh posted...
How good is Sabin's jumping ability? Or would he simply break through any hurled barrels?

(love this picture btw!)

Ahem, see Suplex, sabin goes off the screen in doing it, his jumping is fine. And when you consider the picture azuarc posted (although that's cranky, not donkey) I have to hard give it to Sabin. Remember, we know from the arcade game, that DK is extremely vulnerable to being dropped on his head. (see 100m stage, where you pull all the bolts out, then monkey falls on head, and stage complete) That's always been his weakness, as seen in dk vs mario, getting bonked on the head with barrels as well.

It's more impressive that he can suplex an entire train that has an intangible weight (which involves the engine and every single car that they ran through), and also can do the same to magitek, giant dinosaurs, dragons, etc.

I have to firmly go with sabin now, regardless if all skills or just highlights. (although vanish would really hose DK immensely)
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X_Dante_X
06/09/22 9:41:19 AM
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donkey kong solos

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ZeeksFire
06/09/22 10:50:12 AM
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Sabin wins, DK durability and speed suspect

Sure, the strongest we see is taking the explosion before the aformentioned moon punch. The weakest we see the kongs is getting hit and being dazed, or being dropped on head, with in between we have punched out by Mac and Smash bros styled game, with mario vs dk also showing a fair amount of weakness in being bopped a few times, and retreating.
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rwlh
06/09/22 4:11:24 PM
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Current unofficial tally: 7-11, Sabin.

I need to do an "easy" one for DK next to give him some swagger back. I appreciate the nominations so far!
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LeonhartFour
06/09/22 4:20:09 PM
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if we're doing nominations, then I nominate Knuckles the Echidna

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MargaretAnnMid
06/09/22 4:22:13 PM
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Sabin can equip a Zephyr Cape if he needs to boost his evade or some Dragoon Boots and a Dragon Horn to jump lots :D
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charmander6000
06/09/22 5:13:00 PM
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rwlh posted...
I need to do an "easy" one for DK next to give him some swagger back. I appreciate the nominations so far!

How about Kuma or Kuma II from Tekken. Though that might be too easy for DK. Just want to imagine a gorilla fighting a bear.

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ChichiriMuyo
06/09/22 5:39:49 PM
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Had to think about this for awhile but Sabin comes out ahead in my mind.

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rwlh
06/09/22 9:07:35 PM
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So many options...
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Crescent-Moon
06/09/22 9:10:08 PM
#37:


LeonhartFour posted...
if we're doing nominations, then I nominate Knuckles the Echidna
Knuckles has one advantage over DK, he's faster.

Knuckles will not utilize this speed, and will go in punching like a madman and get curbstomped.

DK easy.

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rwlh
06/10/22 6:41:42 PM
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Last bump?
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