Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 7 - The Mafia Strikes Back

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HanOfTheNekos
05/23/22 3:48:12 PM
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Living Playerlist
  1. Chaeix (JC)
  2. Changmas
  3. Death
  4. Hbthebattle
  5. Isquen
  6. Kirby
  7. Lea
  8. Arti
  9. Masterplum
  10. MZero
  11. Red13n
  12. SBell
  13. Scare
  14. Sir Chris
  15. Sultan
  16. Ulti
  17. ViolentAbacus


Lost the Will to Live
LD1 - Sheep - Venomoff Gideon, DARK SIDE Tracker/Poisoner
KN1 - IGCD - Charmandalorian, LIGHT SIDE Bodyguard/Vanilla
LD2 - Ben - Professor Snoke, DARK SIDE Neighborizer/Redirector
KN2 - Corrik - Padm Amidalakazam, LIGHT SIDE Vanilla/Psychic

Votals when previous topic ends

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HanOfTheNekos
05/23/22 5:37:56 PM
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Unfortunately, he taught his votals everything he knew.
[4] Arti: Ulti, (Isquen), (Chris), Plum, Chang, Isquen
[2] Ulti: SBell, Sultan
[1] MZero: Lea
[0] Hb: (Isquen)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to reach majority. Day ends at 7pm EDT on Tuesday, roughly 25 hours from now.

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htaeD
05/23/22 5:40:47 PM
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The dead player list kinda shows there is no set order for pokemon/star wars flavor names.
Makes sense really.

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Kirby321
05/23/22 5:44:41 PM
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I changed my mind.

Arti
Ulti

'r' and 'l' can be interchangeable in some languages.
What does that leave? A and U. AU. Alternate Universe. And in an alternate universe, logic is backward.

Therefore, Ulti is scum and Arti is town.

%%V0te: Ulti

Don't ask me why I decided to shitpost out of nowhere. I honestly couldn't tell you.

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changmas
05/23/22 5:48:08 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Ugh Ultis logic for thinking Arti isfor sure scum is real bad.

this is kind of an ulti town tell for me. he appears to making an earnest effort at solving the game although i never agree with his logic

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Obellisk
05/23/22 5:51:27 PM
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Count Dootwo
Count mewku

Take your pick.

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changmas
05/23/22 5:53:10 PM
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personally I think it's completely nonsensical to be looking at lynching Ulti today

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Kirby321
05/23/22 5:54:22 PM
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Obellisk posted...
Count Dootwo
Count mewku

Take your pick.

Do you actually have a legitimate argument for thinking Ulti is scum or is this just a joke post

I thought someone else claiming that you've only been focused on Ulti was an exaggeration, but I'm starting to see that it was, indeed, not an exaggeration.

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masterplum
05/23/22 5:57:23 PM
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With how obscenely good these puns have been, I am not convinced by Dootwo

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Obellisk
05/23/22 5:57:46 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
Do you actually have a legitimate argument for thinking Ulti is scum or is this just a joke post

I thought someone else claiming that you've only been focused on Ulti was an exaggeration, but I'm starting to see that it was, indeed, not an exaggeration.


I sniffed out his scum tells. provided all yhe evidence necessary to damn him for it and instead of trying to defend himself, he has only made personal attacks on me as noticed by the above post calling me an idiot. and that just further solidifies my beliefs.

So I'm here, to remind you and the rest of the game that when he's still alive and no one knows who to lynch next, it's him.

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changmas
05/23/22 5:57:47 PM
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i will say SBell didn't become the town king until he was cleared by Tidus' scan last game, but this is really very polarizing to how he was acting in the later days of last game

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Arti
05/23/22 6:02:19 PM
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SBell really needs to read Kirby's post in last topic. He thinks I'm scum, so the logical thought process for him should be that Ulti is town.

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changmas
05/23/22 6:03:21 PM
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Obellisk posted...
I sniffed out his scum tells. provided all yhe evidence necessary to damn him for it and instead of trying to defend himself, he has only made personal attacks on me as noticed by the above post calling me an idiot. and that just further solidifies my beliefs.

that's just what ulti does though.

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Arti
05/23/22 6:03:58 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Do you think HB is town?

No one else answer this.

Yes, I have said so already.

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changmas
05/23/22 6:05:23 PM
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Arti posted...
SBell really needs to read Kirby's post in last topic. He thinks I'm scum, so the logical thought process for him should be that Ulti is town.

i'm very confused by this post. unless it's like a reverse psychology thing you think will end up resulting in SBell suddenly thinking you're town because he thinks Ulti is scum.

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Obellisk
05/23/22 6:06:04 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
If I wanted to make personal attacks I would do so and would have been modkilled ages ago. I have far better material than just calling someone an idiot for making dumb plays. That and Im way more chill these days.


if I wanted to attack you I would, i have so much shit I could say, but I'm chill now, so instead I just act like this. which is like totally different.

... never change ulti.

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Obellisk
05/23/22 6:07:32 PM
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to be clear, I do not know what to make of the double flavor scanner conundrum.

But the fact that it exists AND exists around Ulti... that does not help clear him, it just makes me more suspicious of him, regardless of how arti/hb clears itself up

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Kirby321
05/23/22 6:07:55 PM
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Arti posted...
SBell really needs to read Kirby's post in last topic. He thinks I'm scum, so the logical thought process for him should be that Ulti is town.

I was going to say the same thing. I'd like to see Sbell respond to my thesis on why Ulti is not scum if you're scum.

... Hey, wait, why are you agreeing with me? I only said Ulti is town if you're scum. Are you admitting that you are scum?

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Obellisk
05/23/22 6:08:46 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
I was going to say the same thing. I'd like to see Sbell respond to my thesis on why Ulti is not scum if you're scum.

... Hey, wait, why are you agreeing with me? I only said Ulti is town if you're scum. Are you admitting that you are scum?

can you direct me to the post?

wrapping up my work day will attempt to read it before 7


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Leafeon13N
05/23/22 6:08:58 PM
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Its really bad meta but scum being roletrapped on both sides of the game feels possibly wrong
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Arti
05/23/22 6:09:55 PM
#29:


Kirby321 posted...
I was going to say the same thing. I'd like to see Sbell respond to my thesis on why Ulti is not scum if you're scum.

... Hey, wait, why are you agreeing with me? I only said Ulti is town if you're scum. Are you admitting that you are scum?

You literally said the following in that post

Kirby321 posted...
If Arti is town (unlikely), Ulti could still go either way (in which case grilling is A-OK).


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Kirby321
05/23/22 6:12:47 PM
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Obellisk posted...
can you direct me to the post?

wrapping up my work day will attempt to read it before 7

Gladly. I think it also addresses your concern about Ulti being at the center of this flavor cop nonsense, mainly for how it reflects positively on Ulti if Arti is Scum (or if Hb is Scum but lol).

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80030355/965250699

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changmas
05/23/22 6:13:28 PM
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this is a very strange play from Arti

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/23/22 6:17:46 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Thats because youre not an idiot or scum.
Post like this is why I think Ulti is looking scum tbh

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Leafeon13N
05/23/22 6:18:23 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Please explain? I dont follow.
Tracker-Tracker on star wars side and flavor cop-flavor cop on Pokemon side.
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Kirby321
05/23/22 6:19:27 PM
#36:


Arti posted...
You literally said the following in that post

Yep, I did say that. Doesn't necessarily mean Ulti would be town in that scenario; he could very well be scum if you're town. Are you suggesting that Sbell is scum and Ulti is town, then? Because Sbell could just as likely be town and Ulti scum if you're truly town-aligned.

I guess I'm just a little puzzled why you think Ulti is town. I didn't really believe he was until you and Hb both revealed flavor scans on him.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/23/22 6:20:15 PM
#37:


Can everyone voting arti tell me what posts from day 1 and 2 you didn't like from the slot?

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/23/22 6:20:38 PM
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Tbf i dont know if scum will do the same thing they did with sheeps claim..

Like it didn't work for Sheep why would it work for Arti.. unless Arti is the town out if HB and Arti. They are both claiming pokemon flavor is what is concerning id be less concerned if one was starwars and one was pokemon

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Leafeon13N
05/23/22 6:21:15 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Tracker-Tracker on star wars side and flavor cop-flavor cop on Pokemon side.
To add, both countered by the same person too.

That would be real mean as a single confirm burns two scum potentially.
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Obellisk
05/23/22 6:21:32 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
Gladly. I think it also addresses your concern about Ulti being at the center of this flavor cop nonsense, mainly for how it reflects positively on Ulti if Arti is Scum (or if Hb is Scum but lol).

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80030355/965250699


it... doesn't really.

Who claimed first again amd how do we "know" their results were identical?

Town having two flavor scanners both on pokemon night and both scanning ulti at the same time is unlikely.


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masterplum
05/23/22 6:22:00 PM
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By the way, I think a pokemon flavor cop makes so much sense for scum given that they have a one sided starwars scanner as well.

It would be odd for it to line up with a town role, but I don't think that's necessarily bad game design

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Arti
05/23/22 6:22:25 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
Yep, I did say that. Doesn't necessarily mean Ulti would be town in that scenario; he could very well be scum if you're town. Are you suggesting that Sbell is scum and Ulti is town, then? Because Sbell could just as likely be town and Ulti scum if you're truly town-aligned.

I guess I'm just a little puzzled why you think Ulti is town. I didn't really believe he was until you and Hb both revealed flavor scans on him.
I am suggesting nothing about SBell.

I am obviously more confident in saying Ulti is town after I scanned him and got back a result that matches what he claimed as his flavor. Not sure why that's puzzling?

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Kirby321
05/23/22 6:22:55 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Tracker-Tracker on star wars side and flavor cop-flavor cop on Pokemon side.

For what it's worth, it is a little uncanny that the roletrap was on the same townie. I can see why you'd be skeptical.

Another reason why lynching Arti would give us valuable info imo

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DoomTheGyarados
05/23/22 6:23:52 PM
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Hb is 100% town and anyone who implies otherwise is wrong.

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Obellisk
05/23/22 6:24:00 PM
#45:


Arti posted...
I am obviously more confident in saying Ulti is town after I scanned him and got back a result that matches what he claimed as his flavor. Not sure why that's puzzling?

what's puzzling is why you think this means he's town knowing there is no split on the pokemon side.

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Leafeon13N
05/23/22 6:24:42 PM
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Obellisk posted...
it... doesn't really.

Who claimed first again amd how do we "know" their results were identical?

Town having two flavor scanners both on pokemon night and both scanning ulti at the same time is unlikely.
We know they are identical because Arti reveals parts of hb's scan after hb already revealed his scan.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/23/22 6:24:53 PM
#47:


People making bad arguments against arti here makes me even less inclined to lynch arti. Like holy shit

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Leafeon13N
05/23/22 6:25:04 PM
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Parts of hbs scan that he hadn't revealed, that is.
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TheSultanOfSlam
05/23/22 6:26:02 PM
#49:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hb is 100% town and anyone who implies otherwise is wrong.
Dammit Chris you should know I like to think of both sides by now!

Im more inclined to have HB in my town pile 100% but like it makes no sense for a scum Arti to also claim flavor cop like... I guess it goes back to the never assume what scum would do argument but it litterally didn't work for sheep

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Arti
05/23/22 6:26:14 PM
#50:


Obellisk posted...
what's puzzling is why you think this means he's town knowing there is no split on the pokemon side.
True, but I still think scum would like to hide their Pokemon flavor because of the portmanteau with characters that would be villains on the Star Wars side.

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