Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 1 - The Phantom Menace

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ScareChan posted...

I am pretty sure that Corrik plays with you the same way I do- hope you're town, be paranoid you're scum. I can't cite any games for you, just my corrik vibe of him knowing its better for you not to be aimed at him, regardless of his alignment

It doesn't because I think the error was in error and he is only seeing the most recent game to base it on

Psych we were town together and fire emblem he was scum and I was town. Please research how he treated me both day 1s and tell me if this fits your assumption and get back to me.

Noted on Ben.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Joke phase is over I promise. Or spinning off of that do you think my only prodding has been joking and not valuable in any way? Easy enough to start with me as I am posting bunches. What do you think of my approach thus far?

Ooh good question.

It doesn't mesh with me. I find too many people posting garbage extremely distracting. But does it mesh with you? Maybe?

I think it's a town lean on you. I would guess you being inactive as town last game could have made you a little uncomfortable so you came out wanting to make sure you didn't do that again.

I think scum Chris doesn't need to do this

masterplum posted...

Though after I posted that isquen tracking vibe checks 4 hours in was weird

Plum has no sense of time because scum discord started before the game started.

And Isquen posted a ":emote:" which is a discord emote because he's used to posting on Scum discord.

Joke phase OFFICALLY OVER

Correction- I don't have the mental capacity or patience to go through past games at this time, so no I cannot cite

I don't plan to be quiet this game though, and if I feel up for it I may go back and look at other games another time.

UltimaterializerX posted...

My day one psychic read is to vote for whoever Chris tells me to vote for. Im also a mortally confirmable broken town role that scum should shoot night 1 if they want to win this game, so I get to care even less about day one than I usually do. Which already isnt much, but at least now I can get away with it!

See you in 45 hours. Chris, at that time tell me who Im voting for. Thanks and peace out.

Please contribute to the game meaningfully and submit your psychic list or I will have no choice but to attempt to lynch you for inactivity. Please and thank you.

ScareChan posted...

Correction- I don't have the mental capacity or patience to go through past games at this time, so no I cannot cite

I don't plan to be quiet this game though, and if I feel up for it I may go back and look at other games another time.

Okay I will be nice. Corrik was very hostile towards me as scum in fire emblem mafia. So your assumption is for sure inaccurate. I was doing the lawyer thing about never asking a question you don't know the answer to.

UltimaterializerX posted...

How many names do you want?

Five town and five scum please. Use the force. No logic.

Game started 3.5 hours ago though? Am I crazy?

Going to bed though. I get up at 6AM

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Okay I will be nice. Corrik was very hostile towards me as scum in fire emblem mafia. So your assumption is for sure inaccurate. I was doing the lawyer thing about never asking a question you don't know the answer to.

Was he immediately hostile towards you?

masterplum posted...

Ooh good question.

It doesn't mesh with me. I find too many people posting garbage extremely distracting. But does it mesh with you? Maybe?

I think it's a town lean on you. I would guess you being inactive as town last game could have made you a little uncomfortable so you came out wanting to make sure you didn't do that again.

I think scum Chris doesn't need to do this

This makes sense for now. Try to pace yourself and for the next 44 hours I am alive I will do my best to bring you into the fold of discussion without you having to feel overwhelmed.

Isquen asked about vibe lists on post 75 2 hours 15 minutes into the game

ScareChan posted...

Was he immediately hostile towards you?

Why do you feel as if this specific question is important?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

You have played a few games now. Can you talk about some of your early game encounters and votes and how their alignments turned out? Do you believe that voting you is inherently more scummy? Do the people who attack you early back this up? Please cite the few games you have been in and be extensive.

The first, the only thing that stuck out to me was a bad mislynch train and I tried to fixate on one fo the voters (which ultimately lost us the game, since I was the voter during one-town-lynch-to-win.) The second, I was ignoring pretty much everyone that wasn't Crescent because there was just so much useless posting. Both were town, but still antagonistic. Nobody bothered voting for me in FFXIV, IIRC? I don't want to use that first game as a basis anyway since I did something that I now know to be modkillable. Generally, I don't remember much of Elden Ring, either, other than Crescent constantly needling me when we had both proved ourselves town in stubborness.

As far as I'm concerned for today, Lopen's claimed (and not necessarily Gladiator.) I don't have the 100% conviction of scumminess that I did on Crescent, but there you go.

Though, I appreciate you having faith in my perception, but I wouldn't say perception is my strong suit.

Sometimes I fool myself into thinking it is and that is usually when I go along with lynching cop death.

I roll intelligence checks not wisdom checks

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why do you feel as if this specific question is important?

Because the answer I gave earlier was based on the starting hours of the game and I'm curious to see how that lined up

Isquen posted...

The first, the only thing that stuck out to me was a bad mislynch train and I tried to fixate on one fo the voters (which ultimately lost us the game, since I was the voter during one-town-lynch-to-win.) The second, I was ignoring pretty much everyone that wasn't Crescent because there was just so much useless posting. Both were town, but still antagonistic. Nobody bothered voting for me in FFXIV, IIRC? I don't want to use that first game as a basis anyway since I did something that I now know to be modkillable. Generally, I don't remember much of Elden Ring, either, other than Crescent constantly needling me when we had both proved ourselves town in stubborness.

As far as I'm concerned for today, Lopen's claimed (and not necessarily Gladiator.) I don't have the 100% conviction of scumminess that I did on Crescent, but there you go.

What things do you look for in a player to make you believe they are more likely to be town? Has anyone done any of those things so far?

ScareChan posted...

Because the answer I gave earlier was based on the starting hours of the game and I'm curious to see how that lined up

A few hours I don't know off of memory.

##vote: Chris

Doctor protect me tonight. I am your only hope. Later.

Corrik I don't know why you are determined to be useless today but it isn't going to go well for you I promise.

Obviously I have alot of catching up to do.

But what if I refuse to do a pointless vibe check before the game has even got going Chris?

I'd like lists from both of you

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Obviously I have alot of catching up to do.

But what if I refuse to do a pointless vibe check before the game has even got going Chris?

You may do whatever it is you wish.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Obviously I have alot of catching up to do.

But what if I refuse to do a pointless vibe check before the game has even got going Chris?

Is it pointless I'd you do it after you read?

changmas posted...

hello i probably won't post much tonight as i will be fully engaged in the mavericks vs suns game shortly

I ask that no one spoil this game btw because I'm at work trying to avoid knowing so I can watch it when I get home

Corrik7 posted...

80 posts? Yeah I ain't reading that. See you day 2.

See you in 20 minutes

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik was very hostile towards me as scum in fire emblem mafia.

Was he more or less hostile than he is today?

Hbthebattle posted...

Was he more or less hostile than he is today?

Corrik hasn't done anything today. The way he voted me he knows that's never moving the needle to I would say more as he got me lynched along with town.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

What things do you look for in a player to make you believe they are more likely to be town? Has anyone done any of those things so far?

Let me see. Actually using logic and reasoning things out, rather than obfuscating text behind 30 posts of word salad will usually guide my intuition well (even if it was wrong on Crescent in Elden Ring, while it caught Sultan at the end, so... 50-50?) No one is hard-towncleared until flips prove them otherwise; don't think you're exempt from this either, Chris. Of the posts so far, no one really stands out to me as innocent, merely overeager or a generic "lol day 1 who cares" attitude.

Ngl, it's a bit tough to keep track of everything that's going on.

I will say, Chris, I recognize your efforts today. I'm not used to it, and my immediate thought is to distrust anyone who tries to have such a commanding presence on the first day. That being said, I don't think it's wise to lynch you today. Far from it, really. We risk keeping a powerful scum influence in the game, but I think your colors as scum would be easier to tell as the game goes on. For now, the possibility of you being town is way too great of a risk to take.

... So Corrik's vote on you is absolutely bonkers. I don't think I've liked any of his posts so far, but my understanding is that he gets mislynched quite often, and uh... I can see why. Didn't he also say Isquen should full-claim because he "soft-claimed" already? On day 1? Wtf

Everyone else is a blur in my mind. Did Lopen's gladiator thing actually go through? I get the feeling that was a joke or something that Plum humorously responded to with that "does it have a time limit?" comment.

Isquen posted...

Let me see. Actually using logic and reasoning things out, rather than obfuscating text behind 30 posts of word salad will usually guide my intuition well (even if it was wrong on Crescent in Elden Ring, while it caught Sultan at the end, so... 50-50?) No one is hard-towncleared until flips prove them otherwise; don't think you're exempt from this either, Chris. Of the posts so far, no one really stands out to me as innocent, merely overeager or a generic "lol day 1 who cares" attitude.

Overeager? No one seems genuinely eager?

Kirby321 posted...

... So Corrik's vote on you is absolutely bonkers. I don't think I've liked any of his posts so far, but my understanding is that he gets mislynched quite often, and uh... I can see why. Didn't he also say Isquen should full-claim because he "soft-claimed" already? On day 1? Wtf

This is pretty standard Corrik play as either alignment

Chris has put zero meaningful effort into this game. This nonsense of putting people on each side with absolute prior knowledge is just that. Nonsense.

It is fake content that provides nothing at all besides an imagination that he spurred content to those who are none the wiser. It is actively keeping the game from getting into a mode from where people actually do something of note while Chris continues to try and find avenues to tell the cop "look at me I'm so town, don't scan me" .

You would all be better off voting Chris and lynching him now than actually playing along with a pointless charade.

Corrik7 posted...

Chris has put zero meaningful effort into this game. This nonsense of putting people on each side with absolute prior knowledge is just that. Nonsense.

It is fake content that provides nothing at all besides an imagination that he spurred content to those who are none the wiser. It is actively keeping the game from getting into a mode from where people actually do something of note while Chris continues to try and find avenues to tell the cop "look at me I'm so town, don't scan me" .

You would all be better off voting Chris and lynching him now than actually playing along with a pointless charade.

The force works in mysterious ways and lists are always quite fun to dissect. As for your accusation that I have done nothing meaningful that unfortunately does not jive with the reality of the topic where I have done my best to engage in someway almost everyone. This is at best a bad faith argument and at worst scum hoping that chirping at me day one will be seen in a positive light. There's really not much of substance here so I can't discuss the game with you further.

Isquen. Can you please quote an over eager post and explain to us why it is such? Thanks!

Kirby I am basically playing this game as a tune up for the mafia championships I will be playing in next month. Which means I am going to do my best to do well. In general I thrive in environments where I can collect data and that have a high level of activity. I am hoping to get the best out of every player because it makes scum hunting a lot easier.

Corrik7 posted...

Chris has put zero meaningful effort into this game. This nonsense of putting people on each side with absolute prior knowledge is just that. Nonsense.

It is fake content that provides nothing at all besides an imagination that he spurred content to those who are none the wiser. It is actively keeping the game from getting into a mode from where people actually do something of note while Chris continues to try and find avenues to tell the cop "look at me I'm so town, don't scan me" .

You would all be better off voting Chris and lynching him now than actually playing along with a pointless charade.

Corrik, what exactly does meaningful effort or content from the first few hours of day 1 look like to you? The lists may not mean anything in terms of catching scum, but they have a clear effect of forcing every player to at least somewhat engage with the game.

I'd say that's more useful than 10 posts of nothing or 50 posts of shitposting, the other two likely outcomes

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Votals the Wise?

[1] Plum: Scare
[1] Isquen: Lopen
[1] chang: SBell
[1] Lopen: Isquen
[1] Chris: Corrik

Day ends Tuesday at 7pm Eastern, roughly 43 hours from now.

Chris did you want my help or not

Chris has done the nonsense thing as town before. I write it off as nonsense.

He could still be scum, but its early tbh.

Lopen posted...

Chris did you want my help or not

Please go on. Help away

I'm just wondering why we're not trying to generate pressure on this Isquen guy I used my gladiator on. We should zerg rush some votes on him turn the screws. Let's be overeager.

Votes are good. We pile on 9 votes we can do something else later.

Who's with me

btw what's the dealio with the video opening credits only saying "Star Wars Mafia". and the Light Side / Dark Side split is all star wars flavor too. Where are the Pokemon at? I feel like I've been bamboozled by our host into thinking there would be Pokemon.

Obellisk posted...

Rule of "Post 63" dictates Chang is scum.

##vote: chang

The force runs strong.

foolproof logic tbh i'd suspect me too